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Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- "ALLEGEDLY" From 30 years ago. F#@*ing scary! - English subtitles

 
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Hey you guy who post who this is, you say he killed your uncle and others.

Why did he do this? Any idea? I know this must be hard for you, but please tell us you know about him.

(I saw that you refrenced GLP on youtube, thats why I ask you here.)

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I understand that you want more informations. I have to pay attention, because i've already receive a phone call from french administration in order to stop it now. I've got children, a familly. I imagine you can understand. i promess you that i'll made all is possible to give you more document about this guy.
it will take just a little bit time.
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Thank you very much, all my respect to your loss and grief.
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THIS
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The name of this guy on the video (sorry for my English) is JACQUES NIETZERMANN. Was living on Basse-Normandie until 1980. But for him, it's over because he is in Jail since may 1980. i don't know if he still alive or if he still in jail. The picture when he was under arrest.

[link to profile.imageshack.us]

But in my opinion, today he is probably dead, and it will be better like this.

Frederic Monfils.
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CAN YOU PLEASE TRANSLATE ...THANK YOU
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This is google translate's version of that newspaper clipping:

"The Medium of the Sarthe finally stops

We announced in yesterday's edition, the probable arrest of Jacques Nietzermann who had fled abroad for 22 years.
The information is official since last night. On the night of Tuesday to Wednesday Nietzermann that Jacques was arrested. So qui'l was en route to Le Mans (Sarthe), the Gendarmerie was intercepted near the town of Bennett. According to the Commander Bertaud, the fugitive could not show any sign of aggression: "He almost made unconditionally. He knew he could not do much, he had lost the game."
Immediately transferred to the prison of Alençon to serve his sentence of 45 years in prison (pronounced 22 years earlier), the news provoked a stir throughout the region and Jacques Nietzermann did not leave a good memories. "It's a relief they have found. He must serve his sentence" cowardly a local resident. It's a long process that has allowed the capture of Jacques Nietzermann. Commander Bertaud not believe it himself: "It was difficult to locate, he moved a lot but always with discretion." This is done a page of 22-year history that the locals are about to turn."
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THANK YOU
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shill
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Stop with the technicalities on why the video is fake. It is not.The message gets my genuine stamp. Most gifted psychics report that around 2001 - 2002 (waning) they cannot view past 2012. This is very true. I'm not in a mood to spell it all out but i'll do it briefly for the ignorant. There is the first nuclear test out side (White Sands) Alamogordo, New Mexico, July 16, 1945? That was the first beacon for this extraterrestrial race. Magnify those nuclear tests over the years till the late eighties and what do you get? That's a lot of beacons (as well as esoteric particles disrupted in the Grand scheme of things), wake up folks! Integral to that concept is the Roswell incident in 1946. Do the math people. Whether this so called invasion is a ploy or in effect does sound plausible.
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Hey you guy who post who this is, you say he killed your uncle and others.

Why did he do this? Any idea? I know this must be hard for you, but please tell us you know about him.

(I saw that you refrenced GLP on youtube, thats why I ask you here.)

agent
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I understand that you want more informations. I have to pay attention, because i've already receive a phone call from french administration in order to stop it now. I've got children, a familly. I imagine you can understand. i promess you that i'll made all is possible to give you more document about this guy.
it will take just a little bit time.
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I have some questions:

1. Are you saying you are being asked to stop talking about this case? Who phoned you - a boss at your job? or a government or law enforcement agency?

2. I mean no disrespect when I ask this question, but lots of psychics have been arrested when they come forward to try to help police. This is because a good psychic can provide information that only the police or the murderer/rapist/criminals would know. On that basis alone, they are charged and the case is 'closed'. How do we know that this is not one of those cases? Maybe you have more documentation that can explain the case itself, if this is not too painful to ask.

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Is it because of your fear of what may result that prevents you from accepting those facts? Let's simplify this. There was a reason the American Indians were slaughtered can you say smoke signals?
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ok then,
i'll give you another clue.

the reason he cannot see beyond 2012 is not because of the end of the world,
it is because of the second possibility he mentioned : and that is that he may himself be dead by that date.

and since our froggy sleuth attest that this is now indeed the verified case...i rest my case.
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Is it because of your fear of what may result that prevents you from accepting those facts? Let's simplify this. There was a reason the American Indians were slaughtered can you say smoke signals?
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or perhaps it is your inability to understand the seperateness of issues. If a person says that this is a fake... They are not, i repeat NOT saying that psychics, 2012 predictions, alien false flag senarios etc.etc.etc. are not real.. They are just saying that THIS, particular, individual, unique, singular, individuated interview is fake becauxe it obviously is.. Aand not because of its subject matter.
Honestly, are you retarded? See the trees instead of the forest sometime. Sheeesh its like pushing shit uphill.
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my wife reckons that frenchy is sooo sexy!!
she has watched this video clip already 69 times
and it's not because she is looking for clues
she just wants to watch this frenchy psychic over and over
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my wife reckons that frenchy is sooo sexy!!
she has watched this video clip already 69 times
and it's not because she is looking for clues
she just wants to watch this frenchy psychic over and over
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yeah he is a bit lol. But marketers are SOOOO not sexy. All that lying and manipulating and stuff. turns ladies with soul right off, I reckon...


oh and 69! times... um is that a french slip?
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trust her to notice that he has a big lump in his trousers,
she reckons that he is packing a gun.
my wife is so smart, I always tell her that she should have joined the secret service because she can spot clues where nobody else can, but the reason she didn't join the secret service is because she can't keep a secret,
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my wife reckons that frenchy is sooo sexy!!
she has watched this video clip already 69 times
and it's not because she is looking for clues
she just wants to watch this frenchy psychic over and over
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yeah he is a bit lol. But marketers are SOOOO not sexy. All that lying and manipulating and stuff. turns ladies with soul right off, I reckon...


oh and 69! times... um is that a french slip?

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oh, you are so observant as well, maybe the two of you would make a good detective team
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all the people yelling fake seem to have dissapeared how strange chuckle
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Stop with the technicalities on why the video is fake. It is not.The message gets my genuine stamp. Most gifted psychics report that around 2001 - 2002 (waning) they cannot view past 2012. This is very true. I'm not in a mood to spell it all out but i'll do it briefly for the ignorant. There is the first nuclear test out side (White Sands) Alamogordo, New Mexico, July 16, 1945? That was the first beacon for this extraterrestrial race. Magnify those nuclear tests over the years till the late eighties and what do you get? That's a lot of beacons (as well as esoteric particles disrupted in the Grand scheme of things), wake up folks! Integral to that concept is the Roswell incident in 1946. Do the math people. Whether this so called invasion is a ploy or in effect does sound plausible.
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From the first I've felt that Jacques Nietzermann's psychic predictions were real. Considering that he was on the run from the French government, in hiding, arrested ofr three murders, then put away in a penitenury explains how he could appear, and then disappear from the media. It's his vision of 2012 that validates what we've heard from so many others. Yes, the detonation of nuclear bombs has drawn much attention from our E.T. brothers. And, the fact that earth may be a universal repository of diverse humanoid, plant, animal, marine, insect and biological species used to propagate other planets brings a higher level of attention. Here we are in "The Garden" and we're trying to poison and blow up with nuclear energy, kill everything living on and inside of it, and we're supposed to be upset about an envasion to kick us off of it. Seems to me that we are begging for one?
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Stop with the technicalities on why the video is fake. It is not.The message gets my genuine stamp. Most gifted psychics report that around 2001 - 2002 (waning) they cannot view past 2012. This is very true. I'm not in a mood to spell it all out but i'll do it briefly for the ignorant. There is the first nuclear test out side (White Sands) Alamogordo, New Mexico, July 16, 1945? That was the first beacon for this extraterrestrial race. Magnify those nuclear tests over the years till the late eighties and what do you get? That's a lot of beacons (as well as esoteric particles disrupted in the Grand scheme of things), wake up folks! Integral to that concept is the Roswell incident in 1946. Do the math people. Whether this so called invasion is a ploy or in effect does sound plausible.
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From the first I've felt that Jacques Nietzermann's psychic predictions were real. Considering that he was on the run from the French government, in hiding, arrested ofr three murders, then put away in a penitenury explains how he could appear, and then disappear from the media. It's his vision of 2012 that validates what we've heard from so many others. Yes, the detonation of nuclear bombs has drawn much attention from our E.T. brothers. And, the fact that earth may be a universal repository of diverse humanoid, plant, animal, marine, insect and biological species used to propagate other planets brings a higher level of attention. Here we are in "The Garden" and we're trying to poison and blow up with nuclear energy, kill everything living on and inside of it, and we're supposed to be upset about an envasion to kick us off of it. Seems to me that we are begging for one?
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Couldn't agree more! They can beam me up while they are at it!
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Re: Psychic's predictions for 2012 -- "ALLEGEDLY" From 30 years ago. F#@*ing scary! - English subtitles
This story just gets weirder by the day.

I went to www.tvqc today, to see if Mr Monfils has made any further posts.

Monfils is the guy who stepped forward on GLP and a couple of other forums yesterday, including tvqc, to claim the guy on the video looks exactly like the guy who murdered his uncle, ie Jacques Nietzermann. And then he showed a newspaper clipping to back up his claims. See: [link to imageshack.us]

But strangely, every occurrence of the Monfils' name has been XXXXXX'd out. I assume he requested this for some reason, but he obviously left it a bit late. Monfils' name is now on a few posts here on this GLP thread.

So I searched around, and found a letter written (allegedly) by the owner of TVQC to A T S - as follows:

Quote:
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I'm the owner of www.tvqc.com/, the guy who comment on my site has personally contact me and send me the photo and i have his name and some more info. here is the mail he sent me.

Hello sir,
Before any things, i have to take some precautions to reveal these documents.
Certainly, the affair is form the past, but this video (who must be false in my opinion) disturbs me excessively.
The person (or the comedian) who is in the image looks like extremely like this person about whom I speak to you.

As for the photo of the show, it is obviously false. Who, in full runaway would show itself in front of camera?

Here is the copy of press that tells the arrest in in May 1980 (as attachment). (the newspaper clip)
You will see that the resemblance is striking.
I would like before revealing the other documents to have the certainty that I risk nothing because since the release of this video i already came to ask myself questions.
I would not take any risk if I consider that it represents some threat for my surrounding.
And besides I count on your discretion not to reveal my identity.
I suppose that you will understand.

Cordially

xxx-xxxx (i have his mail and name)
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EndQuote:


The mystery deepens because the last post I can find of Monfils anywhere, was here at GLP, and in it he claims: "i've already receive a phone call from french administration in order to stop it now. I've got children, a familly. I imagine you can understand." This is the link to it for those too lazy to look: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


I notice that the nay-sayers (those who want to protect us from evil hoaxers, and continually tell us that we are idiots for even being curious and not realising stuff immediately) are now claiming that the newspaper clipping itself must be part of the elaborate hoax.

Until someone finds that clipping in the archives of French newspapers from 1983, or until Monfils steps forward again with more documentation (which is now looking very unlikely given his requests to have his name removed from TVQC and other forums) - we will not know the truth.

Right now, my money is on Monfils and that he is correct about the guy in the clip being Nietzermann. If so, I propose two possible reasons why TPTB do not want his case in the public spotlight:
1 - his accuracy as a medium about the future
2 - that he was falsely blamed for his crimes, and might therefore be innocent. I say this because in those days, many psychics were accused of crimes, simply because they 'knew' information that only the police or the criminals would know.

Until we know more, peace to you all
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This is very curious.

If it's not a movie it should be.

One thing I will say about 'acting.' Who can know what a 'genuine' person in this situation would act like?
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So Nietzermann was allegedly arrested in in May 1980, and the one and only source to come forward and make any mention of Nietzermann anywhere is this "Monfils" character, who has cut & pasted the exact same diatribe on several websites?




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Are you people really this gullible?? I have several investments that I would like to sell those of you eho believe this obvious fraud. If you're not gullible i have to believe that you are shilling this hoax.
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A worrying thing about this whole case is that people are so easily fooled. If a bunch of French Canadian students can do it [with badly photoshopped 'evidence'] then seriously... [shakes head]. I mean on the whole, looking at it, the majority of people think it's a fake I guess [looking at the you tube comments and all the threads], but are a lot of people who believe it.

Well marketers and business men have been around for a very long time making money from people who are willing to believe anything. The religious relics trade comes to mind. And if people do get conned then you could argue that .. well.. if they are not smart enough to have a real good look at it then it's just survival of the fittest and selection taking place. yes but then there's the argument of taking advantage of people in an irresponsible way. I would deffo say that the boys responsible for this sham have crossed over acceptable ethics lines. I hope this part of their entry - the ethics of it - is not overlooked by either themselves in their analysis of it OR the people running the competition.
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I, too, wonder about the ethics of it...but on the other hand they seem to have cleverly evaded any actual source attribution. Or have they?

Where is the attribution to the French show Moment of Truth? Where is the evidence it even existed?

What is the source of the newspaper article?

The witness gave a name but has disappeared and could be anyone. This is the most ethically blurry aspect.
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A worrying thing about this whole case is that people are so easily fooled. If a bunch of French Canadian students can do it [with badly photoshopped 'evidence'] then seriously... [shakes head]. I mean on the whole, looking at it, the majority of people think it's a fake I guess [looking at the you tube comments and all the threads], but are a lot of people who believe it.

Well marketers and business men have been around for a very long time making money from people who are willing to believe anything. The religious relics trade comes to mind. And if people do get conned then you could argue that .. well.. if they are not smart enough to have a real good look at it then it's just survival of the fittest and selection taking place. yes but then there's the argument of taking advantage of people in an irresponsible way. I would deffo say that the boys responsible for this sham have crossed over acceptable ethics lines. I hope this part of their entry - the ethics of it - is not overlooked by either themselves in their analysis of it OR the people running the competition.
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I, too, wonder about the ethics of it...but on the other hand they seem to have cleverly evaded any actual source attribution. Or have they?

Where is the attribution to the French show Moment of Truth? Where is the evidence it even existed?

What is the source of the newspaper article?

The witness gave a name but has disappeared and could be anyone. This is the most ethically blurry aspect.
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People google search and expect to find references to a newspaper clipping from a French newspaper circa 1983 - and when they don't turn it up - they cry 'HOAX'. This is absurd.

We have asked Monfils to provide more info, but he seems to have been asked to shut up, if his last post on GLP can be believed.
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So Nietzermann was allegedly arrested in in May 1980, and the one and only source to come forward and make any mention of Nietzermann anywhere is this "Monfils" character, who has cut & pasted the exact same diatribe on several websites?




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Are you people really this gullible?? I have several investments that I would like to sell those of you eho believe this obvious fraud. If you're not gullible i have to believe that you are shilling this hoax.
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They are indeed that gullible

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There is still no PROOF it is a hoax. Nobody has found PROOF it is part of that viral marketing competition.

It is quite possible that Monfils is indeed genuine. After all, if MY uncle had been murdered, I would indeed keep a newspaper clipping of the murderer's capture.

And the date of mid-August 1983 is indeed in keeping with the alleged storyline of being on the run overseas for 22 years. All it means is that the guy returned to France a couple of years after his 'interview'.

The level of 'evidence' thrown around by skeptics on GLP is disappointingly shallow. You can see how desperate people are when they keep saying the stupid phrase of "I can't believe how easily people are taken in by this hoax". A T S is the home of that kind of basement troll.

Here at GLP we excel in exploring absurdities, so if you can't fathom or handle that, piss off back to your own loser forums.
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piss off back? lol never even knew about 'that other website that you don't like so much' forum until after I joined THIS place, and that was only a few days ago. Wow you appear to have a huge amount of hang ups.
As for fathoming absurdities, I reckon I could fathom the absurdities right out of your underfathom draw without even looking and them re manifest them back into a hypertemporal klein bottle reroute up your ass.

That is actually my honest opinion: that I am disappointed how easily people are sucked in by scams... but if they are people who write like you do - then I am not surprised. If you get sucked in by things then who is guarding your magazine from people who want to print scams? Left up to the rest of the editorial team then is it? lol.

It is quite juvenile to abuse people on here because of this forum or that forum or whatever. like wtf has that got to do with anything? It's pretty weak to use that kind of tactic to gather a force of opinion, because it calls on nothing but the group mentality of 'attack the thing that is different' with the only reason being that it is different. Lynch mob mentality it is.
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Chill dude - you're a newbie - and yeah, we've all got hangups here. My post was not aimed at you in particular, and in case you didn't notice - my 'stance' of interested neutrality is vastly in the minority on this thread.

Take a read over the last 17 pages, most posters have adopted your 'amazed at people's gullibility' or have simply declared it a hoax because he might be wearing a wig, or because of the film quality or his trousers or other things which don't PROVE anything.

So relax and know that you are in the consensus majority of people quick to judge and dismiss.

Happy now?

PS: Welcome to GLP, lol
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What I would like to know is why can't you even reference 'that other website' on here? Who's got the hangup there? Them or GLP? Am I even allowed to ask this question? Seriously what happened? What's the issue? Does anyone know? And even if someone does are they allowed to talk about it without getting in trouble for talking about it? Just curious ... and really wondering if it's necessary... it's just another forum ffs.

off topic? sorry. but I wanted to know.
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Acuparia? is that a botanic name? i used to have an acuparia years ago in my garden.
Acuparia? you seem a bit nervous and highly strung.
relax and enjoy, but be calm, very calm.
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