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I have a local freemason chapter within about a half mile from my house. I noticed the other day that the signs outside the window are an upside down pentagram in a circle and and the freemason scale. What type of stuff goes on in these meetings?Idol1
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Ive heard they're really boring I don't know about bad.
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They eat babies. Nuff said.
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Always some BAG O SHIT acting like a TARD.
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snake people
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They're not 'bad', they do a lot of charity work.
And they ARE mostly 'boring', there are some 'rituals' go on at meetings, mostly reciting of old text - The more outlandish stuff is slowly dying out.
Other than that, I can say no more.
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YOu mean snake handlers? If so I highly doubt it because they're are alot of black men at these meetings and we all know that black people don't like snakes. [link to www.youtube.com]
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The outer circle freetards are harmless enough. It is the inner circle you have to worry about...
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The pentagram with circle is the symbol of the Order of Eastern Star (lady masons)
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Most are not...some are.
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Masons are good men. The paranoia surrounding us these days is nonsense. However, even the suspicion has its purpose in things. Masons are men who attempt to live a Godly life. If that's bad, i don't want to be good.
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They're not 'bad', they do a lot of charity work.
And they ARE mostly 'boring', there are some 'rituals' go on at meetings, mostly reciting of old text - The more outlandish stuff is slowly dying out.
Other than that, I can say no more.
 Quoting: JimWell


Charity?

Like when they run the hospitals?

Who is responsible for deathcare again?

When will they give us the cure for cancer? common cold & flu?

Who is responsible for rigging local elections? Running govt into the ground & crashing the global economy? World govt & everything NWO?

Did we mention they are Satanists who ultimately serve the Pope in Rome?
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Masons are good men. The paranoia surrounding us these days is nonsense. However, even the suspicion has its purpose in things. Masons are men who attempt to live a Godly life. If that's bad, i don't want to be good.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Godly?

As long as it does not include obeying God's word - the Bible.

They cannot make up their own god.

These masonic knights serve the pope in Rome. That is their only god, the empire.
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Basically the lower levels of freemasonry are nothing more than a fraternity. You dont get into evil stuff until you get to about a 15th degree, which at then point recruiters from the illuminati and other groups will take interest in you and have you do work for them.
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Freemasons know that the bible is bullshit, god and satan or the same thing just as night and day are, the dualistic nature of our planet is easily controlled and manipulated by men who are smarter than the average sheep and that is why they have gotten away with it!
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ORIGIN of the MASONIC G

Written by Apollo Illuminaughty,
With qoutes/credits.

I would like to lead you all into a sample of the Grand Mysteries to which every Secret Society held sacred. It has to be experienced to be believed and within the initiations there is the key to immortal life

I wish you well on this voyage unto your own blissful union, and may you discover yourself whole and unblemished before the finality and wonder we call "God"

-Apollo


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The Masonic Compass "G" and the Star of David. by Apollo


The familiar symbol of Freemasonry is the letter "G:" in the interlocked compass and square that is put upon the altar of the Temple in the first three degrees.

The compass and square used by architect workers and builders. Freemasons learn to "square their actions" and learn to "circumscribe and keep us within due bounds toward all mankind":

The Compass and Square, usually called Sun compass and Moon square are easy to understand, but how about the letter G? Its been assumed to mean both God and Geometry. It also closely resembles the spiral symbol of the Mayan Sky god and healer, Hunab Ku.

:hunabku:

Let us look at the Ark of the Covenant for clues since the study of Solomons Temple is center in Freemasonry


What did the 2 cherubim on the ark of the covenant represent?

The answer which it gives is: "The mystery of the Golden Altar" (Dumfries Ms., ca. 1799).

Thus, the union of "the two Cherubim" in the Jerusalem Temple would appear to be the ultimate source of the "mystery of the Golden Altar" in the Masonic Temple.

QOUTE:
The letter "G" (signifying God's secret Name) appears between the intertwining compass and square and is paralleled by Philo's explanation that the union of the statues in the Jewish Temple represented God's "consorting" with the soul, and his "divinizing" of the recipient. Thus the compass and square are exact symbolic equivalents of the ancient Cherubim, i.e. the ancient "Male" and "Female," whose union was the central feature of the Wisdom mystery, and which brought about the candidate's deification. But we should also compare this unique symbolism with the Divine Image itself (Gen. 1:27), which teaches that God is male and female united; hence the sacred "G" appears only when the male compass and the female square are intertwined. " (shields research. /End Qoute)


In the Mysteries, the Symbolic union of male and female being a symbol of the Great Work is both in Mystic Israel and Gnostic tradition. and European Alchemy.



Heaven and Earth is also symbolic of God and his Bride, the Yod, heh, Vav Heh of the Tetragrammaton combining the Holy Family. It is also known as As Above, So Below.


Above, the celestial things, below, the terrestrial; by the male and the female the work is accomplished. Join the male and the female and you will find what you are seeking (Aphorisms of Zosimus)

QOUTE: But before they can complete this all-important work, both must die and pass through the "nigredo" state, i.e. the death and dissolution of the body. Zosimus appropriately characterized this stage of the mystery with the image of the "priest" who is torn to pieces and mutilated before he can be resurrected and discover the "Stone of the Nile." (Shields research/End Qoute)

The Two in One is also the Star of David , its center hexagram being the nara narayana or perfect state between man and God, or God and his Bride, this reflects the superius/inferius and externis/interius,from the Gospel of Thomas ("You shall enter the Kingdom when the upper is as the lower and the outside is as the inside.")

The Rebis and the letter G being the union of the Hermaphrodite God, The Union so complete that two become ONE and Inseperable.

:alchemy1:

Squaring the circle or the G is described in I Ching.

(ca. 720-474 B.C.) the heavens is round ( the compass delineates the horizon), and the earth is square (with its "four corners").

Yahweh says in the Old Testament verses, "I will set a plumb line in the midst of my people, Israel" (Amos 7:8). . . "Judgment will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet" (Isa. 28:17). . ."And thou shalt make an altar...(that) shall be foursquare" (Ex. 27:1). . . "When he prepared the heavens, I was there; when he set a compass upon the face of the depth." (Prov. 8:27) . . . "He has described a circle upon the face of the waters" (Job 26:10)

The Letter G is the perfect Symbol of the Divine Builder mastering both the Intellect of the Above with the Wisdom Below, The Sun and the Moon in perfect Harmony, In Santa Croce Cathedral in Florence, Jesus is above the main portal holding a workers square..

The Letter G in finality is the symbol of the Great Work pictured in the Universe card of the Tarot Major. In the Evolution of the Soul, Man unites his whole self in its original immortal ovoid and finds himself complete.

-Apollo Illuminaughty.


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I have a local freemason chapter within about a half mile from my house. I noticed the other day that the signs outside the window are an upside down pentagram in a circle and and the freemason scale. What type of stuff goes on in these meetings?Idol1
 Quoting: Pat Mccrotch


Origin of the five pointed star or pentagram, Five pointed flower of life

Venus and Earth Orbit every 8 years

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Masons are good men. The paranoia surrounding us these days is nonsense. However, even the suspicion has its purpose in things. Masons are men who attempt to live a Godly life. If that's bad, i don't want to be good.
 Quoting: simultaneous_final


Godly?

As long as it does not include obeying God's word - the Bible.

They cannot make up their own god.

These masonic knights serve the pope in Rome. That is their only god, the empire.
 Quoting: J 7731991


lol

The Catholic church likes to kick you out if you become a Freemason. I have a Catholic friend who joined and he has to keep the knowledge of his membership from his church. They have the knights of Columbus as their lodge.

Masons have some criteria to join.
You must be a man, you must have of good moral character, you must have no criminal record, and you must believe in the one true God.

Shriners are Masons. You have to become a master Mason before you can be a Shriner. Shriners as you know have a lot of hospitals and give free care to children.

Freemasons are very moral people, usually the pillars of their community. They usually are very active in some way within the community to help better it.

The King James Version of the Holy Bible is the centerpiece, on an alter, in a Masons lodge.

I am a master Mason and can tell you that all the conspiracy theories about Masonry are crap.

The books written by men who claimed to be ex-Masons are not factual and most are completely lies. They just wanted to make money by sensationalism.
They know that Freemasons find it hard to debunk them because the proceedings of the lodge are secret.

Whenever something is secret people seem to envision all kinds of evil events happening behind those closed doors. LOL
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Masons are good men. The paranoia surrounding us these days is nonsense. However, even the suspicion has its purpose in things. Masons are men who attempt to live a Godly life. If that's bad, i don't want to be good.
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Godly?

As long as it does not include obeying God's word - the Bible.

They cannot make up their own god.

These masonic knights serve the pope in Rome. That is their only god, the empire.
 Quoting: J 7731991


I think you should research the history of the Lodge and its relationship w/ the Vatican and Catholicism in general. It has not been pleasant. Also, you have no idea (obviously) what Masons are, do and believe. Why do you have so much faith in the Bible, anyway? Especially if you have an ax to grind w/ the Vatican?
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It is the low level masons who do not understand what they are involved in, not the researchers - who are often Christians.

Who created the Knights Templar?

The Pope.

Who do the Knights serve?

The Pope.

Who wrote the degrees of Freemasonry?

The Jesuits and other Templars

The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1. CLERMONT COLLEGE 2. Jesuits 3. PERFECTION RITE 4. SCOTTISH RITE)

[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]

Mackey has the final word on the matter. But from one of your own admitting much the same ..

"It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler's Rite, the "Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West -- Sovereign Prince Masons," etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris." (Isis Unveiled, H. P. Blavatsky, p.390)

Templars are in FM.

Templars must remain "ecumenical" i.e. treating all churches the same i.e. the pope is head of their professed "christian" military knight Christiandom.
[link to www.knightstemplar.org]

What is the name of the FM youth group?

Demolay! From he last Templar Grand Master Jacques de Molay.

If these dupes want to eventually become converts to the papal knight that is their problem, but they most importantly serve the community run running each and every town across the country/world rigging elections for the fascist empire!

History of the Knights Templar-Freemasons

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Origins of the Conspiracy

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It is the low level masons who do not understand what they are involved in, not the researchers - who are often Christians.

Who created the Knights Templar?

The Pope.

Who do the Knights serve?

The Pope.

Who wrote the degrees of Freemasonry?

The Jesuits and other Templars

The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1. CLERMONT COLLEGE 2. Jesuits 3. PERFECTION RITE 4. SCOTTISH RITE)

[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]

Mackey has the final word on the matter. But from one of your own admitting much the same ..

"It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler's Rite, the "Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West -- Sovereign Prince Masons," etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris." (Isis Unveiled, H. P. Blavatsky, p.390)

Templars are in FM.

Templars must remain "ecumenical" i.e. treating all churches the same i.e. the pope is head of their professed "christian" military knight Christiandom.
[link to www.knightstemplar.org]

What is the name of the FM youth group?

Demolay! From he last Templar Grand Master Jacques de Molay.

If these dupes want to eventually become converts to the papal knight that is their problem, but they most importantly serve the community run running each and every town across the country/world rigging elections for the fascist empire!
 Quoting: J 7731991

The real people behind the new world order (Bilderberg group) would love to point the finger at another group to get the attention off them.
A video does not make something true.
They have the money to make videos against any group.
Select a group that is secret and blame them. They can't break their oath so they can't defend themselves.
Good scheme.

Also the membership of the Masons is not public so when they say this guy or that was a mason, they are either guessing of inventing their info.

The Knights Of Columbus are from the papacy! Ask one of them.
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It is the low level masons who do not understand what they are involved in, not the researchers - who are often Christians.

Who created the Knights Templar?

The Pope.

Who do the Knights serve?

The Pope.

Who wrote the degrees of Freemasonry?

The Jesuits and other Templars

The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1. CLERMONT COLLEGE 2. Jesuits 3. PERFECTION RITE 4. SCOTTISH RITE)

[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]

Mackey has the final word on the matter. But from one of your own admitting much the same ..

"It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler's Rite, the "Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West -- Sovereign Prince Masons," etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris." (Isis Unveiled, H. P. Blavatsky, p.390)

Templars are in FM.

Templars must remain "ecumenical" i.e. treating all churches the same i.e. the pope is head of their professed "christian" military knight Christiandom.
[link to www.knightstemplar.org]

What is the name of the FM youth group?

Demolay! From he last Templar Grand Master Jacques de Molay.

If these dupes want to eventually become converts to the papal knight that is their problem, but they most importantly serve the community run running each and every town across the country/world rigging elections for the fascist empire!
 Quoting: J 7731991

The real people behind the new world order (Bilderberg group) would love to point the finger at another group to get the attention off them.
A video does not make something true.
They have the money to make videos against any group.
Select a group that is secret and blame them. They can't break their oath so they can't defend themselves.
Good scheme.

Also the membership of the Masons is not public so when they say this guy or that was a mason, they are either guessing of inventing their info.

The Knights Of Columbus are from the papacy! Ask one of them.
 Quoting: Nobleone




The Knights of Columbus and Malta are for Catholics. They swear an oath to the pope with a chain of command thru the Jesuit General.

The non-Catholics (of any faith) join the Freemasons. As Templars they too answer by chain of command to the Jesuit General. (that is what is New about the Order, not all MUST be Catholic, as was the old world.)

Freemasonry is not a Moose Lodge.

The Fremason's Supreme Council 33 deg is in Washington. The mother lodge in London. The Masons look towards and take directions from these. That is the chain-of-command e.g. Grand Secretary General.

In Washington the Jesuits have a large presence. Washington DC is located in the former Catholic Colony Maryland. They all work together directing the empire.

Washington was founded by Freemasons after the revolution ran by Freemasons? The founders were FM Knights working with the Jesuits & Vatican.

Rulers of Evil
Finding the lost
by F. Tupper Saussy

THE ONE SURE FACT OF AMERICAN HISTORY is that the United States was conceived in secrecy. Our history’s most trustworthy witness, Charles Thomson, a classical scholar who kept detailed minutes of the clandestine proceedings of the Continental Congress from 1774 to 1789, destroyed all of his personal papers relative to these defining events.

My investigation began with a general overview of the federal district, Washington, DC. No studious observer looking for meaning can help but discern in Washington an architectural and monumental presence that is almost overwhelmingly Roman.

I focused on the city’s most hallowed edifice, the Capitol. A cursory title search on the real estate upon which it stands turned up a surprise. In 1663, the property that would become the Capitol’s site was inscribed in the Maryland property records as “Rome,” its owner a man named “Pope.” The southern boundary of this property was shaped by a river named for the river that runs through Rome, the Tiber.

I further discovered that “Rome” was transferred to the federal government in the years following ratification of the Constitution by its owner, Daniel Carroll. Carroll was the chairman of a three-man commission appointed by President George Washington to find a suitable location for the capital city. A signer of the Declaration of Independence, Daniel Carroll was a Roman Catholic educated by Jesuits in Maryland and France. His brother John was a Jesuit priest.

[link to continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com]
[link to www.newadvent.org]

Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
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I have a local freemason chapter within about a half mile from my house. I noticed the other day that the signs outside the window are an upside down pentagram in a circle and and the freemason scale. What type of stuff goes on in these meetings?Idol1
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Truth of Pentagram

Thread: SO YOU THINK THE PENTAGRAM IS EVIL ???? Venus Transit TONIGHT !
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Claim: Bilderberg group

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These are masonic knights too. There is an elite of the knights at the top involved in world govt & banking. Do you expect George Bush to come to your town and run city council & elections?

Freemasonry is not the only creation of the Templars. They founded the Skull and Bones (for elite youth) and many other college frats (for recruiting).

Bilderberg Group was/is just a roundtable group of theirs which seems to be largely kaput today. The Pilgrim Society was a similar roundtable.
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I have a local freemason chapter within about a half mile from my house. I noticed the other day that the signs outside the window are an upside down pentagram in a circle and and the freemason scale. What type of stuff goes on in these meetings?Idol1
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Truth of Pentagram

Thread: SO YOU THINK THE PENTAGRAM IS EVIL ???? Venus Transit TONIGHT !
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There are pentagrams in nature. But to found a pagan religion around this has a long history from the time of Babylon.

Ask anyone. The upside down pentagram is associated with Satanism. The Freemasons created the Church of Satan like Wicca, ect., ect.

All false religion originates from Babylon.
[link to farm1.static.flickr.com]

Noah's g-grandson's name Nimrod has been found there. The Bible is confirmed with a long HISTORY and SCIENCE. Freemasonry is a pagan cult founded upon Rome's sun worship - mithraism or babylonianism.

Babylon and the Bible
Author: Professor Walter J. Veith, PhD

Two hundred years ago, scholars doubted whether Babylon ever existed. The only record could be found in the Bible. Critics used the story of Babylon, and what they called its "non-historic kings," to discount Scripture. However, Babylon was discovered and excavated in 1898.

We know today that Babylon was one of the first cities in the world, and founded by Nimrod, great-grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:9-10). Archaeologists have found his name on many inscriptions and tablets, while a massive head of Nimrod has been excavated near Calah on the Tigris River.

[link to amazingdiscoveries.org]
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Several have been good friends and taught me a lot about helping people. A few are arrogant but you would find that in any group.

I would say walk right up and ask them about Masonry, you might make some friends too. I wouldn't ambush them lol, just walk over casually and say Hi I live down the block and can't help but wondering what this is about. Is their anyone I can ask if thats OK? They have a lot of parties (not in the temple room) and if thats going on they may even invite you in.

You'll make friends, their just people but I really can't vouch for what goes on higher up.

All kinds of people are Masons Nice and not so nice so you could get a warm reception or they might blow you off too.
Depends on who you meet.

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It is the low level masons who do not understand what they are involved in, not the researchers - who are often Christians.

Who created the Knights Templar?

The Pope.

Who do the Knights serve?

The Pope.

Who wrote the degrees of Freemasonry?

The Jesuits and other Templars

The Freemasons were founded by the Knights Templar and the Jesuits who wrote the degrees creating Freemasonry, according to Freemason Grand Master and historian Albert Mackey. (Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, four entries: 1. CLERMONT COLLEGE 2. Jesuits 3. PERFECTION RITE 4. SCOTTISH RITE)

[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]
[link to encyclopediaoffreemasonry.com]

Mackey has the final word on the matter. But from one of your own admitting much the same ..

"It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler's Rite, the "Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West -- Sovereign Prince Masons," etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris." (Isis Unveiled, H. P. Blavatsky, p.390)

Templars are in FM.

Templars must remain "ecumenical" i.e. treating all churches the same i.e. the pope is head of their professed "christian" military knight Christiandom.
[link to www.knightstemplar.org]

What is the name of the FM youth group?

Demolay! From he last Templar Grand Master Jacques de Molay.

If these dupes want to eventually become converts to the papal knight that is their problem, but they most importantly serve the community run running each and every town across the country/world rigging elections for the fascist empire!
 Quoting: J 7731991

The real people behind the new world order (Bilderberg group) would love to point the finger at another group to get the attention off them.
A video does not make something true.
They have the money to make videos against any group.
Select a group that is secret and blame them. They can't break their oath so they can't defend themselves.
Good scheme.

Also the membership of the Masons is not public so when they say this guy or that was a mason, they are either guessing of inventing their info.

The Knights Of Columbus are from the papacy! Ask one of them.
 Quoting: Nobleone




The Knights of Columbus and Malta are for Catholics. They swear an oath to the pope with a chain of command thru the Jesuit General.

The non-Catholics (of any faith) join the Freemasons. As Templars they too answer by chain of command to the Jesuit General. (that is what is New about the Order, not all MUST be Catholic, as was the old world.)

Freemasonry is not a Moose Lodge.

The Fremason's Supreme Council 33 deg is in Washington. The mother lodge in London. The Masons look towards and take directions from these. That is the chain-of-command e.g. Grand Secretary General.

In Washington the Jesuits have a large presence. Washington DC is located in the former Catholic Colony Maryland. They all work together directing the empire.

Washington was founded by Freemasons after the revolution ran by Freemasons? The founders were FM Knights working with the Jesuits & Vatican.

Rulers of Evil
Finding the lost
by F. Tupper Saussy

THE ONE SURE FACT OF AMERICAN HISTORY is that the United States was conceived in secrecy. Our history’s most trustworthy witness, Charles Thomson, a classical scholar who kept detailed minutes of the clandestine proceedings of the Continental Congress from 1774 to 1789, destroyed all of his personal papers relative to these defining events.

My investigation began with a general overview of the federal district, Washington, DC. No studious observer looking for meaning can help but discern in Washington an architectural and monumental presence that is almost overwhelmingly Roman.

I focused on the city’s most hallowed edifice, the Capitol. A cursory title search on the real estate upon which it stands turned up a surprise. In 1663, the property that would become the Capitol’s site was inscribed in the Maryland property records as “Rome,” its owner a man named “Pope.” The southern boundary of this property was shaped by a river named for the river that runs through Rome, the Tiber.

I further discovered that “Rome” was transferred to the federal government in the years following ratification of the Constitution by its owner, Daniel Carroll. Carroll was the chairman of a three-man commission appointed by President George Washington to find a suitable location for the capital city. A signer of the Declaration of Independence, Daniel Carroll was a Roman Catholic educated by Jesuits in Maryland and France. His brother John was a Jesuit priest.

[link to continuingcounterreformation.blogspot.com]
[link to www.newadvent.org]

Hidden Faith of the Founding Fathers
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: J 7731991


All of your facts are incorrect except for one.
Washington was founded by Freemasons. George Washington was a Freemason. Most of our greatest leaders were also.
Other than that nothing else you said is valid.

Most of the presidents were Masons.
So you say all our best leaders were part of some grand conspiracy? LOL
They were elected, not appointed. The people elected each one because they were good moral men.

The Freemasons came here to get away from the church of Rome and the church of England.
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Only the ones who are at the top or can relate to a particular bloodline.

Most common freemasons are just sheep like the rest of us...

sheep
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My take (simply put):

Freemasons are not evil but some great evil are Freemasons.
THREE LAWS OF TYRANNY


Tyranny Law #1:
"Any power that can be abused will be abused."

Tyranny Law #2:
"Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it."

Tyranny Law #3:
"If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail."
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The system of the masons are corrupted or changed so yes it is Evil when you look to the details.