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Illuminati: the project for loving and responsible Jezus like people and no governments.

 
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Johann Adam Weishaupt (6 February 1748 in Ingolstadt – 18 November 1830 in Gotha) was a German philosopher and founder of the Order of Illuminati, a secret society with origins in Bavaria.

Wishaupt seems to be an enthusiastic Philanthropist. He is among those (as you know the excellent [Richard] Price and [Joseph] Priestley also are) who believe in the indefinite perfectibility of man. He thinks he may in time be rendered so perfect that he will be able to govern himself in every circumstance so as to injure none, to do all the good he can, to leave government no occasion to exercise their powers over him, & of course to render political government useless.
—Thomas Jefferson

Wishaupt believes that to promote this perfection of the human character was the object of Jesus Christ. That his intention was simply to reinstate natural religion, & by diffusing the light of his morality, to teach us to govern ourselves. His precepts are the love of god & love of our neighbor. And by teaching innocence of conduct, he expected to place men in their natural state of liberty & equality. He says, no one ever laid a surer foundation for liberty than our grand master, Jesus of Nazareth. He believes the Free masons were originally possessed of the true principles & objects of Christianity, & have still preserved some of them by tradition, but much disfigured. The means he proposes to effect this improvement of human nature are "to enlighten men, to correct their morals & inspire them with benevolence. Secure of our success, sais he, we abstain from violent commotions. To have foreseen, the happiness of posterity & to have prepared it by irreproachable means, suffices for our felicity. The tranquility of our consciences is not troubled by the reproach of aiming at the ruin or overthrow of states or thrones." As Wishaupt lived under the tyranny of a despot & priests, he knew that caution was necessary even in spreading information, & the principles of pure morality. He proposed therefore to lead the Free masons to adopt this object & to make the objects of their institution the diffusion of science & virtue. He proposed to initiate new members into his body by gradations proportioned to his fears of the thunderbolts of tyranny. This has given an air of mystery to his views, was the foundation of his banishment, the subversion of the masonic order, & is the colour for the ravings against him of Robinson, Barruel & Morse, whose real fears are that the craft would be endangered by the spreading of information, reason, & natural morality among men. This subject being new to me, I have imagined that if it be so to you also, you may receive the same satisfaction in seeing, which I have had in forming the analysis of it: & I believe you will think with me that if Wishaupt had written here, where no secrecy is necessary in our endeavors to render men wise & virtuous, he would not have thought of any secret machinery for that purpose.
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Sounds a bit like Ron Paul.
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So the NWO daddy Bush and the neocons talk about. Has it got ANYTHING to do with this humanist project?
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Why do we think they are the source of our wars, corporate tyranny and push towards global communism? It sounds to me they are leftist hippies that are targeted by the establishment that seeks power and wealth.
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Liberty or death? No, just liberty!
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I will work for their goals.
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This is not the same illuminati that rules the world nowadays, they are not ruled by those kind of precepts.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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This is not the same illuminati that rules the world nowadays, they are not ruled by those kind of precepts.
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Really? Or did the non mainstream media indoctrinate us and made them the scapegoats?
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This is not the same illuminati that rules the world nowadays, they are not ruled by those kind of precepts.
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Really? Or did the non mainstream media indoctrinate us and made them the scapegoats?
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And nobody is ruling the world, that is a goal of the NWO, it is somewhat in place, but you cannot call it ruling yet.
The UN and security council are forums, where all included countries have a vote.
Maybe we have the banksters and 'royals' above that system who really rule, but seeing the events in the world, they don't have the power to just dictate what happens.
To me the Illuminati seems to be against any system that doesn't have at it's core the love and responsibility of man itself.
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This is not the same illuminati that rules the world nowadays, they are not ruled by those kind of precepts.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Really? Or did the non mainstream media indoctrinate us and made them the scapegoats?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


And nobody is ruling the world, that is a goal of the NWO, it is somewhat in place, but you cannot call it ruling yet.
The UN and security council are forums, where all included countries have a vote.
Maybe we have the banksters and 'royals' above that system who really rule, but seeing the events in the world, they don't have the power to just dictate what happens.
To me the Illuminati seems to be against any system that doesn't have at it's core the love and responsibility of man itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Those above governments, and who control the banks and corporations can basically lead the world pretty much into any place they want to. And their motto is, the end justifies the means.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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This is not the same illuminati that rules the world nowadays, they are not ruled by those kind of precepts.
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Really? Or did the non mainstream media indoctrinate us and made them the scapegoats?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


And nobody is ruling the world, that is a goal of the NWO, it is somewhat in place, but you cannot call it ruling yet.
The UN and security council are forums, where all included countries have a vote.
Maybe we have the banksters and 'royals' above that system who really rule, but seeing the events in the world, they don't have the power to just dictate what happens.
To me the Illuminati seems to be against any system that doesn't have at it's core the love and responsibility of man itself.
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Those above governments, and who control the banks and corporations can basically lead the world pretty much into any place they want to. And their motto is, the end justifies the means.
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Those above governments are all the governments of the world. If they shouldn't decide what happens, who should?
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This is not the same illuminati that rules the world nowadays, they are not ruled by those kind of precepts.
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You don't thrust them. But if it is true what is written above I think the guy who wrote this...

The solution to the world's problems is that YOU and everyone else change your life's purposes and begin to change what you fill your minds with, what you occupy your mental energy with, from trash to good stuff.

That's the only way the world will change, all the rest will fail.

There you go, suck on that.


...is on their side.
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Really? Or did the non mainstream media indoctrinate us and made them the scapegoats?
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And nobody is ruling the world, that is a goal of the NWO, it is somewhat in place, but you cannot call it ruling yet.
The UN and security council are forums, where all included countries have a vote.
Maybe we have the banksters and 'royals' above that system who really rule, but seeing the events in the world, they don't have the power to just dictate what happens.
To me the Illuminati seems to be against any system that doesn't have at it's core the love and responsibility of man itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Those above governments, and who control the banks and corporations can basically lead the world pretty much into any place they want to. And their motto is, the end justifies the means.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Those above governments are all the governments of the world. If they shouldn't decide what happens, who should?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Probably they should run the world, I mean would you want the masses to run the world? Go outside in the street and check what kind of people are there, you want those to run things?
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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And nobody is ruling the world, that is a goal of the NWO, it is somewhat in place, but you cannot call it ruling yet.
The UN and security council are forums, where all included countries have a vote.
Maybe we have the banksters and 'royals' above that system who really rule, but seeing the events in the world, they don't have the power to just dictate what happens.
To me the Illuminati seems to be against any system that doesn't have at it's core the love and responsibility of man itself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Those above governments, and who control the banks and corporations can basically lead the world pretty much into any place they want to. And their motto is, the end justifies the means.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Those above governments are all the governments of the world. If they shouldn't decide what happens, who should?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Probably they should run the world, I mean would you want the masses to run the world? Go outside in the street and check what kind of people are there, you want those to run things?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I would like to see a system where all can make laws where all can vote on.
I don't know what to do about propaganda, that thing distorts the reality and in a lot of cases the compassion of people. It teaches them a lot of the times that the only thing they should concern themselves with is their own personal interest and then go on to tell them what that interest is. I don't know how to cure that. But having a military or intellectual elite rule in a way that is not in sync with the wishes of the masses, will ofcourse for sure end badly.
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Those above governments, and who control the banks and corporations can basically lead the world pretty much into any place they want to. And their motto is, the end justifies the means.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Those above governments are all the governments of the world. If they shouldn't decide what happens, who should?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Probably they should run the world, I mean would you want the masses to run the world? Go outside in the street and check what kind of people are there, you want those to run things?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I would like to see a system where all can make laws where all can vote on.
I don't know what to do about propaganda, that thing distorts the reality and in a lot of cases the compassion of people. It teaches them a lot of the times that the only thing they should concern themselves with is their own personal interest and then go on to tell them what that interest is. I don't know how to cure that. But having a military or intellectual elite rule in a way that is not in sync with the wishes of the masses, will ofcourse for sure end badly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1068718


Why should the masses have a right to choose their destiny if they havent expended any effort on deserving that right? If people would be worthy of freedom we wouldn't be discussing any of this right now, we would be free.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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The Illuminati is an ancient secret society that seeks to bring about a New World Order based on the principle that everyone has it within them to literally become God. present the Illuminati's radical vision for a new humanity and provides a full account of the inner divinity of the human race.

The ten most influential Grand Masters of the Illuminati are: King Solomon the Apostate, Pythagoras, Heraclitus, Empedocles, Simon Magus, Hypatia, Leibniz, Weishaupt, Goethe and Hegel.

The aim, as it has always been, is to overthrow the network of elite, dynastic families of wealth and privilege that we refer to as the "Old World Order" who have run this world since the dawn of civilization, to their maximum advantage and to the extreme detriment of the people.

The Illuminati is a radical and indeed revolutionary organization that seeks nothing less than to assist the ordinary men and women of the human race to ascend to the next stage of humanity's divine evolution. The Illuminati describes this higher level as the "Community of Gods" or the "Society of the Divine."

It's time to end the reign of the false prophets, the fake gods and the tawdry idols that we call "celebrities". We're sick of the bankers and traders, the lawyers and accountants, the politicians and their "special advisers" the lobbyists and spin doctors, the agents and gatekeepers, the CEOs and chairmen, the advertisers and marketing men. We're sick of all the same faces of the "top" people and their relentless tricks and tactics to keep enriching themselves at the people's expense. We're sick of the government's "Freedumb and Dumbocracy" that cons people into voting for the rich and the apologists for the rich, and we're sick of the Abrahamic religions that keep billions of people on their knees as slaves to a tyrant masquerading as God.

You know that humanity is capable of so much more. Isn't it time to bring about real change? Isn't it time to seize your divine inheritance?

The Illuminati. The messengers of the True God. The sacred mission is to bring humanity into full union with the True God so that there is no longer any distinction between the human race and the divine essence. The Order is able to show how this can be achieved using Einstein's theories of special and general relativity, and quantum mechanics. It's time for humanity to open its eyes and see the divine light for the first time. It's religion is called Illumination. They have emerged from the shadows to cast the light of Abraxas, the True God, on this benighted world; to bring Illumination - enlightenment - to everyone.

p.s. Thomas Jefferson was an Illuminatus.
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Another wannabe outspring of the Rosicrucians:

Thread: The origin of all modern western secret societies
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The Illuminati is an ancient secret society that seeks to bring about a New World Order based on the principle that everyone has it within them to literally become God. present the Illuminati's radical vision for a new humanity and provides a full account of the inner divinity of the human race.

The ten most influential Grand Masters of the Illuminati are: King Solomon the Apostate, Pythagoras, Heraclitus, Empedocles, Simon Magus, Hypatia, Leibniz, Weishaupt, Goethe and Hegel.

The aim, as it has always been, is to overthrow the network of elite, dynastic families of wealth and privilege that we refer to as the "Old World Order" who have run this world since the dawn of civilization, to their maximum advantage and to the extreme detriment of the people.

The Illuminati is a radical and indeed revolutionary organization that seeks nothing less than to assist the ordinary men and women of the human race to ascend to the next stage of humanity's divine evolution. The Illuminati describes this higher level as the "Community of Gods" or the "Society of the Divine."

It's time to end the reign of the false prophets, the fake gods and the tawdry idols that we call "celebrities". We're sick of the bankers and traders, the lawyers and accountants, the politicians and their "special advisers" the lobbyists and spin doctors, the agents and gatekeepers, the CEOs and chairmen, the advertisers and marketing men. We're sick of all the same faces of the "top" people and their relentless tricks and tactics to keep enriching themselves at the people's expense. We're sick of the government's "Freedumb and Dumbocracy" that cons people into voting for the rich and the apologists for the rich, and we're sick of the Abrahamic religions that keep billions of people on their knees as slaves to a tyrant masquerading as God.

You know that humanity is capable of so much more. Isn't it time to bring about real change? Isn't it time to seize your divine inheritance?

The Illuminati. The messengers of the True God. The sacred mission is to bring humanity into full union with the True God so that there is no longer any distinction between the human race and the divine essence. The Order is able to show how this can be achieved using Einstein's theories of special and general relativity, and quantum mechanics. It's time for humanity to open its eyes and see the divine light for the first time. It's religion is called Illumination. They have emerged from the shadows to cast the light of Abraxas, the True God, on this benighted world; to bring Illumination - enlightenment - to everyone.

p.s. Thomas Jefferson was an Illuminatus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8435184


That was a great post. Of course there's not only one faction trying to influence world events. Unfortunately the old order has captured more of the collective subconscious, as to convince people what they offer is more desirable than actual englightenment. And the masses are too blind to distinguish, it's been so for most of human history, except rare occasions.

Last Edited by Manu-K on 01/10/2012 10:13 AM
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Why should the masses have a right to choose their destiny if they havent expended any effort on deserving that right? If people would be worthy of freedom we wouldn't be discussing any of this right now, we would be free.
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We come from nature and it's laws and threats. We were used to fight for domination, for security. Usually we lead ourselves be ruled by our elders, with experience.
Farming and industrialization and growth of our communities gave other forms of accumulation of power and leadership.
Many fights have already taken place to set our governments straight and many advances have been made. But the journey for mans own responsibility and rule is not yet over.
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Another wannabe outspring of the Rosicrucians:

Thread: The origin of all modern western secret societies
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Rosicrucians (early XVth century) political agenda:

1. The abolition of all monarchical forms of government and the substitution therefor of the rulership of the philosophic elect. The present democracies are the direct outgrowth of Rosicrucian efforts to liberate the maws from the domination of despotism. In the early part of the eighteenth century the Rosicrucians turned their attention to the new American Colonies, then forming the nucleus of a great nation in the New World. The American War of Independence represents their first great political experiment and resulted in the establishment of a national government founded upon the fundamental principles of divine and natural law. As an imperishable reminder of their sub rosa activities, the Rosicrucians left the Great Seal of the United States. The Rosicrucians were also the instigators of the French Revolution, but in this instance were not wholly successful, owing to the fact that the fanaticism of the revolutionists could not be controlled and the Reign of Terror ensued.


2. The reformation of science, philosophy, and ethics. The Rosicrucians declared that the material arts and sciences were but shadows of the divine wisdom, and that only by penetrating the innermost recesses of Nature could man attain to reality and understanding.
There is undeniable evidence that the Rosicrucians desired to reestablish the institutions of the ancient Mysteries as the foremost method of instructing humanity in the secret and eternal doctrine.






Sound familiar?
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The Illuminati is an ancient secret society that seeks to bring about a New World Order based on the principle that everyone has it within them to literally become God. present the Illuminati's radical vision for a new humanity and provides a full account of the inner divinity of the human race.

The ten most influential Grand Masters of the Illuminati are: King Solomon the Apostate, Pythagoras, Heraclitus, Empedocles, Simon Magus, Hypatia, Leibniz, Weishaupt, Goethe and Hegel.

The aim, as it has always been, is to overthrow the network of elite, dynastic families of wealth and privilege that we refer to as the "Old World Order" who have run this world since the dawn of civilization, to their maximum advantage and to the extreme detriment of the people.

The Illuminati is a radical and indeed revolutionary organization that seeks nothing less than to assist the ordinary men and women of the human race to ascend to the next stage of humanity's divine evolution. The Illuminati describes this higher level as the "Community of Gods" or the "Society of the Divine."

It's time to end the reign of the false prophets, the fake gods and the tawdry idols that we call "celebrities". We're sick of the bankers and traders, the lawyers and accountants, the politicians and their "special advisers" the lobbyists and spin doctors, the agents and gatekeepers, the CEOs and chairmen, the advertisers and marketing men. We're sick of all the same faces of the "top" people and their relentless tricks and tactics to keep enriching themselves at the people's expense. We're sick of the government's "Freedumb and Dumbocracy" that cons people into voting for the rich and the apologists for the rich, and we're sick of the Abrahamic religions that keep billions of people on their knees as slaves to a tyrant masquerading as God.

You know that humanity is capable of so much more. Isn't it time to bring about real change? Isn't it time to seize your divine inheritance?

The Illuminati. The messengers of the True God. The sacred mission is to bring humanity into full union with the True God so that there is no longer any distinction between the human race and the divine essence. The Order is able to show how this can be achieved using Einstein's theories of special and general relativity, and quantum mechanics. It's time for humanity to open its eyes and see the divine light for the first time. It's religion is called Illumination. They have emerged from the shadows to cast the light of Abraxas, the True God, on this benighted world; to bring Illumination - enlightenment - to everyone.

p.s. Thomas Jefferson was an Illuminatus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8435184

Like your post, but bringing God into the equation, especially in a way were you say they want man to be at the same level, brings Babylonian vanity into the mix.
I'm not sure if that is not just some Roman explanation for an ideology that tries to bring man at the level Jezus is supposed to have proclaimed.
I don't think the goal is to be Gods or equivalent. The goals is love and liberty.
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I would post the link to their offical communications web page, but GLP banes my ass.

Quite ironic really, beacuse it was on GLP that I first found the link to thier site. you would notbelieve the stuff on this website!! Damn secrets of the universe!! All backed up with mathematics & quantum physics.

The Illuminati existed long, long before Adam Weishaupt. When you've read their website you can spot a bullshit story a mile away. There are some very delusional fucks out there!!
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Another wannabe outspring of the Rosicrucians:

Thread: The origin of all modern western secret societies
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Rosicrucians (early XVth century) political agenda:

1. The abolition of all monarchical forms of government and the substitution therefor of the rulership of the philosophic elect. The present democracies are the direct outgrowth of Rosicrucian efforts to liberate the maws from the domination of despotism. In the early part of the eighteenth century the Rosicrucians turned their attention to the new American Colonies, then forming the nucleus of a great nation in the New World. The American War of Independence represents their first great political experiment and resulted in the establishment of a national government founded upon the fundamental principles of divine and natural law. As an imperishable reminder of their sub rosa activities, the Rosicrucians left the Great Seal of the United States. The Rosicrucians were also the instigators of the French Revolution, but in this instance were not wholly successful, owing to the fact that the fanaticism of the revolutionists could not be controlled and the Reign of Terror ensued.


2. The reformation of science, philosophy, and ethics. The Rosicrucians declared that the material arts and sciences were but shadows of the divine wisdom, and that only by penetrating the innermost recesses of Nature could man attain to reality and understanding.
There is undeniable evidence that the Rosicrucians desired to reestablish the institutions of the ancient Mysteries as the foremost method of instructing humanity in the secret and eternal doctrine.






Sound familiar?
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These are all the remnant factions of the ancient illuminated societies, keepers of the mysteries. Some have taken different directions, and some have been led astray. The battle of light and dark continues as it was known long ago.

"I have my God and you have yours, and as they strove one against the other beforetimes, so will it always be; but now there is a new battleground with new battlechiefs. I will go to my appointed place and you will go to yours, and from thence, as leaders of the fray, we shall wage a never ceasing war. Such is fated and must be, but who will win the fair prize of Earth for their king? We shall not strive with clubs and lances, the hurling stone and flying dart, but with more subtle weaponry. This thing is not our choice, we are but playthings of fate."

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"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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At various times throughout their existence, the Illuminati proper formed various su-branches(for lack of a better word) to get the truth out there & various elements of their secret religion, two very well known examples are the Freemasons & the rosicruicians. But, as what usually happens(& so as not to have the order infiltrated) these become infiltrated & corrupted. They abandoned freemasonry a long time ago & left it to its WASP devices, it no longer has any elements of the secret religion &, contrary to popular belief, is little more than a 'boys club'(a very sinister one at that!)

And yes, technically, they are of the opinion that a human being is already of the same essence of(the true)God Abraxus(not the jealous, vengeful war-god Yahweh)

Oh gee, if I could only post the link, you could read it all yourselves!
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I would post the link to their offical communications web page, but GLP banes my ass.

Quite ironic really, beacuse it was on GLP that I first found the link to thier site. you would notbelieve the stuff on this website!! Damn secrets of the universe!! All backed up with mathematics & quantum physics.

The Illuminati existed long, long before Adam Weishaupt. When you've read their website you can spot a bullshit story a mile away. There are some very delusional fucks out there!!
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So Thomas Jefferson was evil? Why he part of the gang that wrote the US constitution which is against tyrannical power?

And do you think the Illuminati has a website with their 'secrets'?
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At various times throughout their existence, the Illuminati proper formed various su-branches(for lack of a better word) to get the truth out there & various elements of their secret religion, two very well known examples are the Freemasons & the rosicruicians. But, as what usually happens(& so as not to have the order infiltrated) these become infiltrated & corrupted. They abandoned freemasonry a long time ago & left it to its WASP devices, it no longer has any elements of the secret religion &, contrary to popular belief, is little more than a 'boys club'(a very sinister one at that!)

And yes, technically, they are of the opinion that a human being is already of the same essence of(the true)God Abraxus(not the jealous, vengeful war-god Yahweh)

Oh gee, if I could only post the link, you could read it all yourselves!
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Post the link broken up in parts so the forum doesn't auto ban it. I am interested.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Post the link broken up in parts so the forum doesn't auto ban it. I am interested.
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hehe, gotcha!! i had a feeling you'd be!
Google the words i write in bold:
You know, the Christians say this is the time of Armageddon, but I often wonder if this is just a conspiracy to keep mankind in a state of fear?

The homepage is a long read, but dont get bored, stay with it!
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Post the link broken up in parts so the forum doesn't auto ban it. I am interested.
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hehe, gotcha!! i had a feeling you'd be!
Google the words i write in bold:
You know, the Christians say this is the time of Armageddon, but I often wonder if this is just a conspiracy to keep mankind in a state of fear?

The homepage is a long read, but dont get bored, stay with it!
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I've read a lot of stuff but I am always interested in discovering more wink
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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At various times throughout their existence, the Illuminati proper formed various su-branches(for lack of a better word) to get the truth out there & various elements of their secret religion, two very well known examples are the Freemasons & the rosicruicians. But, as what usually happens(& so as not to have the order infiltrated) these become infiltrated & corrupted. They abandoned freemasonry a long time ago & left it to its WASP devices, it no longer has any elements of the secret religion &, contrary to popular belief, is little more than a 'boys club'(a very sinister one at that!)

And yes, technically, they are of the opinion that a human being is already of the same essence of(the true)God Abraxus(not the jealous, vengeful war-god Yahweh)

Oh gee, if I could only post the link, you could read it all yourselves!
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I believe you mistake gnostic sects, individuals interested in the occult and old wisdom, and something like an Illuminati group that survived through the eons to enlighten humans of all ages.

There's no such group. This is wishful fantasy and many modern societies will claim that lineage. They don't even deserve to claim it without loosing all credibility because it would mean they are concerned about the validity of their existence, and how the world perceive them. If such a group (millenias old illuminatis) ever existed, you would NEVER hear from it.


The reality is these groups are various schools of mysteries, loosely connected over the centuries, inspired by their predecessors and inspiring their heirs.


But no true continuity, and no centralized hierarchy.


Only groups competing with each other for the supreme title of "most important and influent secret society on Earth".
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Post the link broken up in parts so the forum doesn't auto ban it. I am interested.
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hehe, gotcha!! i had a feeling you'd be!
Google the words i write in bold:
You know, the Christians say this is the time of Armageddon, but I often wonder if this is just a conspiracy to keep mankind in a state of fear?

The homepage is a long read, but dont get bored, stay with it!
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That site reads like any "theosophy-inspired" website out there and nothing from it couldn't be copy-pasted from other sources.

It's just one more wannabe group claiming to be the "Illuminati". Just the idea of even claiming to be the true Illuminatis is ridiculous.

I could probably start my very own secret order with all the esoteric knowledge I amassed, not unlike the church of Scientology, but that would never make me an "Illuminati" no matter how hard I try, and it's because they (other than the 17th century ones) don't exist.
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Yes, everybody peddles their 2 cents worth on what the Illuminati is & isn't, these guys might not be who they say they are, but I'll tell you something for free buddy, they are very, very convincing & I trust them explicitly.

so, who ya' gunna believe? David Dicke & Co. or these guys?

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