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How the Illuminati Really Began.

 
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I thought it was weird inside MY head.
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Lol, I've often told people that I appear quite sane; But I can be calm solely because there is always a storm in my mind.

And I laugh wholeheartedly when people ask: whatcha thinking?
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I thought it was weird inside MY head.
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Lol, I've often told people that I appear quite sane; But I can be calm solely because there is always a storm in my mind.

And I laugh wholeheartedly when people ask: whatcha thinking?
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Yeah, I totally get that. It's pointless to say sometimes because in this medium it's difficult to convey that from the inside out...
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Only the neutral can pierce the heart. defying distance and mass.

A charge either side and it will bound amiss and wide.

The fool, the preacher and their dipole pride.
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Zapotec Olmec Toltec

9 steps

13 personalities

7 days

6 nights

Final cycle of 13x20


Calleman Oct 28th, 2012
Jenkins Dec 21st 2012

the Ant people and the 0 gravity core

Shiva dances 12x9

Toroidal regeneration from the core

Quoth the raven nothing more.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What does it mean, though?
 Quoting: SickScent


Loki and the raven

The madman and the maven



I'm just doing some free associating to see what shakes loose. I'd love to know if the toroids are flattening and expanding to thin the plasmic veils/separations. But at the moment I'm playing with what i have. breadcrumbs. I would do some research but that's not part of the current experiment to wash the steps of conciousness.

Sorry, that's all I got.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I'll shake it up with you. These are my thoughts on the toriods and the shape they are working towards. The toroids have been deformed. Though they are stable, they are not in a perfect, uniform shape. Thus, the information flowing through them does not flow frictionless through the aether. Thus arises the easy manifestation of blockages within all shapes (and colors) of the solar system. It explains the difficulty of information flow to consciousness, difficulty of healing certain diseases (cancer), etc.

So, the toroids are both flattening and expanding depending on the region and the region's associated (and adjacent) influences. They are adjusting to the new environment, and getting back to the pure, non-deformed shape. The end result being frictionless energy/information flow through the gates to material manifestation.
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Zapotec Olmec Toltec

9 steps

13 personalities

7 days

6 nights

Final cycle of 13x20


Calleman Oct 28th, 2012
Jenkins Dec 21st 2012

the Ant people and the 0 gravity core

Shiva dances 12x9

Toroidal regeneration from the core

Quoth the raven nothing more.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What does it mean, though?
 Quoting: SickScent


Loki and the raven

The madman and the maven



I'm just doing some free associating to see what shakes loose. I'd love to know if the toroids are flattening and expanding to thin the plasmic veils/separations. But at the moment I'm playing with what i have. breadcrumbs. I would do some research but that's not part of the current experiment to wash the steps of conciousness.

Sorry, that's all I got.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I'll shake it up with you. These are my thoughts on the toriods and the shape they are working towards. The toroids have been deformed. Though they are stable, they are not in a perfect, uniform shape. Thus, the information flowing through them does not flow frictionless through the aether. Thus arises the easy manifestation of blockages within all shapes (and colors) of the solar system. It explains the difficulty of information flow to consciousness, difficulty of healing certain diseases (cancer), etc.

So, the toroids are both flattening and expanding depending on the region and the region's associated (and adjacent) influences. They are adjusting to the new environment, and getting back to the pure, non-deformed shape. The end result being frictionless energy/information flow through the gates to material manifestation.
 Quoting: SickScent


Lol, you actual made my physical vision twitch while rendering your picture in my head. Perhaps that is the built in 'god glitch' that makes the sphere deflate to a donut; Or possibly the job that Lucifer (clear code) must do in the machine.

Lucifer is the brake. While three stand on one rim of the toroidal void are their inverse manifest on the mirror side. Electrons and protons tossed in a swirling fountain from each branch of the tree manyfold.




the dually reflecting mirror in the neutral heart. The pong ping of the the toroids dualistic thing.
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What does it mean, though?
 Quoting: SickScent


Loki and the raven

The madman and the maven



I'm just doing some free associating to see what shakes loose. I'd love to know if the toroids are flattening and expanding to thin the plasmic veils/separations. But at the moment I'm playing with what i have. breadcrumbs. I would do some research but that's not part of the current experiment to wash the steps of conciousness.

Sorry, that's all I got.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I'll shake it up with you. These are my thoughts on the toriods and the shape they are working towards. The toroids have been deformed. Though they are stable, they are not in a perfect, uniform shape. Thus, the information flowing through them does not flow frictionless through the aether. Thus arises the easy manifestation of blockages within all shapes (and colors) of the solar system. It explains the difficulty of information flow to consciousness, difficulty of healing certain diseases (cancer), etc.

So, the toroids are both flattening and expanding depending on the region and the region's associated (and adjacent) influences. They are adjusting to the new environment, and getting back to the pure, non-deformed shape. The end result being frictionless energy/information flow through the gates to material manifestation.
 Quoting: SickScent


Lol, you actual made my physical vision twitch while rendering your picture in my head. Perhaps that is the built in 'god glitch' that makes the sphere deflate to a donut; Or possibly the job that Lucifer (clear code) must do in the machine.

Lucifer is the brake. While three stand on one rim of the toroidal void are their inverse manifest on the mirror side. Electrons and protons tossed in a swirling fountain from each branch of the tree manyfold.




the dually reflecting mirror in the neutral heart. The pong ping of the the toroids dualistic thing.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


You brought one of my altered state experiments (I have no words that describe what I do) to mind. This is what I 'created' in trying to figure out how light/angular momentum is trapped and creates 'charge'. I imagine this, with a slight deformation, thus making the manifestation of charge and magnetism into mass, not pure. This representation would be way too 'archaic' to notice where the deformation would lie (dual meaning intended).

:chargesequence:

:charge:
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And we are at the original conundrum. This is just some more free form. A photon is deduced from a wave and visually captures the essence of that wave. However is the photon inducing the wave. As a physical form or conciousness; is it a manisfestation of the photon seeing itself and creating spin to examine. Electromotive force by self reflection and examination.

Tonight is German beer night, so forgive any sloppiness. The fryer is keeping the whirling dervishes affixed to their plates of aromatic gravity.

I have some visions of 2 Reich experiments.
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And we are at the original conundrum. This is just some more free form. A photon is deduced from a wave and visually captures the essence of that wave. However is the photon inducing the wave. As a physical form or conciousness; is it a manisfestation of the photon seeing itself and creating spin to examine. Electromotive force by self reflection and examination.

Tonight is German beer night, so forgive any sloppiness. The fryer is keeping the whirling dervishes affixed to their plates of aromatic gravity.

I have some visions of 2 Reich experiments.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I am having an Indian Ale.

cheers
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And we are at the original conundrum. This is just some more free form. A photon is deduced from a wave and visually captures the essence of that wave. However is the photon inducing the wave. As a physical form or conciousness; is it a manisfestation of the photon seeing itself and creating spin to examine. Electromotive force by self reflection and examination.

Tonight is German beer night, so forgive any sloppiness. The fryer is keeping the whirling dervishes affixed to their plates of aromatic gravity.

I have some visions of 2 Reich experiments.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


It is where it comes from. The Word of God. That initial movement, that frequency out of nothing.

I have tried this experiment as well, trying to figure out where the movement (vibration) comes from that allows the light to manifest at the convergence of twin opposing spinning vortices consisting of charge and contained and shaped within magnetism, all moving in-synch to trap the light/angular momentum into the sphere shaped containment/perpetual system (torus).

I have come to the conclusion that there was a bridge made from the non-material that manifested into the material. The ohm is either the bridge or a catalyst that creates the bridge that allows the transfer of 'sound'. If we look at it dualistically, then the ohm is one part, and the other is something yet to be described, that creates the third...the third being the bridge.
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Cheers. Sveiks, Jivili, Prost, Cou Sec, Up yer bottom!
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Cheers. Sveiks, Jivili, Prost, Cou Sec, Up yer bottom!
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


:brewhah:
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And we are at the original conundrum. This is just some more free form. A photon is deduced from a wave and visually captures the essence of that wave. However is the photon inducing the wave. As a physical form or conciousness; is it a manisfestation of the photon seeing itself and creating spin to examine. Electromotive force by self reflection and examination.

Tonight is German beer night, so forgive any sloppiness. The fryer is keeping the whirling dervishes affixed to their plates of aromatic gravity.

I have some visions of 2 Reich experiments.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


It is where it comes from. The Word of God. That initial movement, that frequency out of nothing.

I have tried this experiment as well, trying to figure out where the movement (vibration) comes from that allows the light to manifest at the convergence of twin opposing spinning vortices consisting of charge and contained and shaped within magnetism, all moving in-synch to trap the light/angular momentum into the sphere shaped containment/perpetual system (torus).

I have come to the conclusion that there was a bridge made from the non-material that manifested into the material. The ohm is either the bridge or a catalyst that creates the bridge that allows the transfer of 'sound'. If we look at it dualistically, then the ohm is one part, and the other is something yet to be described, that creates the third...the third being the bridge.
 Quoting: SickScent


Look at the inside of the swirling void as the perfevt vacuum. ultimately small and perfectly spherical. As sound is to vision it would bounce in the sphere until absolute vibration explodes into yet another vacuum. encapsulating itself and creating spin. As it twists the cadeceus like interior of the toroid is formed.

Explosion upon self examination after examination creates sphere after sphere while falling back to zero and nesting each toroid. Each branch or nesting with 6 induction/deduction points branching with connection to the 7th or original.

almost a literal unfolding of Om Mane Padme Om.
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My son just dropped his drinking bottle and it made me think of something else. By having something with nothing in creates the angular momentum. as his bottle dropped and displaced liquid it both staggered forward and rolled. each roll displacing itself on ground both in cycle and wave.
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The first thoughts: Damn it's dark. Where's the switch. click.
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My son just dropped his drinking bottle and it made me think of something else. By having something with nothing in creates the angular momentum. as his bottle dropped and displaced liquid it both staggered forward and rolled. each roll displacing itself on ground both in cycle and wave.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


hmm

That leaves out, in our thought experiment, what it was that dropped the bottle.

But, I understand you in that the something moves toward the nothing because of the vacuum of nothing, correct? But still, there are many gaps in that version. I have figured out everything except how that initial movement is began. Now, if the universe is eternal (I think it is) then there was no first movement, and my bottleneck is freed.
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The first thoughts: Damn it's dark. Where's the switch. click.
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yep. But who thought it was dark, and why? Something that was used to light, and wanted to create, knowing that light was the key.
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My son just dropped his drinking bottle and it made me think of something else. By having something with nothing in creates the angular momentum. as his bottle dropped and displaced liquid it both staggered forward and rolled. each roll displacing itself on ground both in cycle and wave.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


hmm

That leaves out, in our thought experiment, what it was that dropped the bottle.

But, I understand you in that the something moves toward the nothing because of the vacuum of nothing, correct? But still, there are many gaps in that version. I have figured out everything except how that initial movement is began. Now, if the universe is eternal (I think it is) then there was no first movement, and my bottleneck is freed.
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Entropy or a pulling apart and settling; connotes to me a need for reaccumulation in the process. However, All our postulation will always be fraught with the imperfect or is that the rub that keeps it spinning.

Or, alternately titled; Even Aeons need a day off.
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So materially we never see anyone in the present unless they vibrate a consistent tone.
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More specifically this is what made me hmm
Now that I'm on page 4 I'm understanding a bit more why...
I'll add more in a bit, for now I'm just

blink
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hmm

That makes me hmm again, looking at that in deeper context.

Dionysian, this is literal, isn't it?
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Yes it is.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


That would describe my friends, then. Unfortunately, it is too difficult an experience for most to believe, let alone, understand could be a possibility.

They showed me it once. And let me experience how it happens. Wish the memories were not blurry...and fuzzy.
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More specifically this is what made me hmm
Now that I'm on page 4 I'm understanding a bit more why...
I'll add more in a bit, for now I'm just

blink
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


hmm

That makes me hmm again, looking at that in deeper context.

Dionysian, this is literal, isn't it?
 Quoting: SickScent


Yes it is.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


That would describe my friends, then. Unfortunately, it is too difficult an experience for most to believe, let alone, understand could be a possibility.

They showed me it once. And let me experience how it happens. Wish the memories were not blurry...and fuzzy.
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Simply put, the incredible will always leave you incredulous.
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hmm

That makes me hmm again, looking at that in deeper context.

Dionysian, this is literal, isn't it?
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Yes it is.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


That would describe my friends, then. Unfortunately, it is too difficult an experience for most to believe, let alone, understand could be a possibility.

They showed me it once. And let me experience how it happens. Wish the memories were not blurry...and fuzzy.
 Quoting: SickScent


Simply put, the incredible will always leave you incredulous.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have experienced it many times now. That incredulous feeling. It too, can be addicting. I love the incredible, the impossible manifesting into my life. It seems as if, it has become my life.
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Yes it is.
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That would describe my friends, then. Unfortunately, it is too difficult an experience for most to believe, let alone, understand could be a possibility.

They showed me it once. And let me experience how it happens. Wish the memories were not blurry...and fuzzy.
 Quoting: SickScent


Simply put, the incredible will always leave you incredulous.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have experienced it many times now. That incredulous feeling. It too, can be addicting. I love the incredible, the impossible manifesting into my life. It seems as if, it has become my life.
 Quoting: SickScent


We were created to see and recreate patterns. Thus the construct we are in the midst of. But, sometimes, we have to shutdown and listen to the silence and let it tell us its story.

thats most of the reason I think we are kept busy with make work projects and superflous media. Just so we forget the simple connections and make mania our motivator.
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That would describe my friends, then. Unfortunately, it is too difficult an experience for most to believe, let alone, understand could be a possibility.

They showed me it once. And let me experience how it happens. Wish the memories were not blurry...and fuzzy.
 Quoting: SickScent


Simply put, the incredible will always leave you incredulous.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have experienced it many times now. That incredulous feeling. It too, can be addicting. I love the incredible, the impossible manifesting into my life. It seems as if, it has become my life.
 Quoting: SickScent


We were created to see and recreate patterns. Thus the construct we are in the midst of. But, sometimes, we have to shutdown and listen to the silence and let it tell us its story.

thats most of the reason I think we are kept busy with make work projects and superflous media. Just so we forget the simple connections and make mania our motivator.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


That, and for most of us, we DO create a bias to any experience, and do not discern the experience as it truly was. Probably an effect of the 'monolith' tainting our experiences with what to think, instead of what we think.

this would also apply to the concept, be like no one else.
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Simply put, the incredible will always leave you incredulous.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I have experienced it many times now. That incredulous feeling. It too, can be addicting. I love the incredible, the impossible manifesting into my life. It seems as if, it has become my life.
 Quoting: SickScent


We were created to see and recreate patterns. Thus the construct we are in the midst of. But, sometimes, we have to shutdown and listen to the silence and let it tell us its story.

thats most of the reason I think we are kept busy with make work projects and superflous media. Just so we forget the simple connections and make mania our motivator.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


That, and for most of us, we DO create a bias to any experience, and do not discern the experience as it truly was. Probably an effect of the 'monolith' tainting our experiences with what to think, instead of what we think.

this would also apply to the concept, be like no one else.
 Quoting: SickScent


Very succinctly put, also encompassing the concept of dead words and dynamic action.

Because are we mediating or communicating? Creating clones or personalities to give us an 'other' perspective.

It's like the W S Burroughs gambit where all powerful minds create clones of themselves to empower their opinions.

Probably why I'm always looking for something I didn't think of in other people, yet something quite alive and shared.

On that note sir, I'm going to enter the vacuum and bang out some chords and do some howling and see what ghosts come up.

I'll check in intermittently.

you have given me much food for thought and I need to tear up some pictures and throw them up in the air.

Is it coincidence or intent?
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I have experienced it many times now. That incredulous feeling. It too, can be addicting. I love the incredible, the impossible manifesting into my life. It seems as if, it has become my life.
 Quoting: SickScent


We were created to see and recreate patterns. Thus the construct we are in the midst of. But, sometimes, we have to shutdown and listen to the silence and let it tell us its story.

thats most of the reason I think we are kept busy with make work projects and superflous media. Just so we forget the simple connections and make mania our motivator.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


That, and for most of us, we DO create a bias to any experience, and do not discern the experience as it truly was. Probably an effect of the 'monolith' tainting our experiences with what to think, instead of what we think.

this would also apply to the concept, be like no one else.
 Quoting: SickScent


Very succinctly put, also encompassing the concept of dead words and dynamic action.

Because are we mediating or communicating? Creating clones or personalities to give us an 'other' perspective.

It's like the W S Burroughs gambit where all powerful minds create clones of themselves to empower their opinions.

Probably why I'm always looking for something I didn't think of in other people, yet something quite alive and shared.

On that note sir, I'm going to enter the vacuum and bang out some chords and do some howling and see what ghosts come up.

I'll check in intermittently.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


:busythumb:
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We were created to see and recreate patterns. Thus the construct we are in the midst of. But, sometimes, we have to shutdown and listen to the silence and let it tell us its story.

thats most of the reason I think we are kept busy with make work projects and superflous media. Just so we forget the simple connections and make mania our motivator.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


That, and for most of us, we DO create a bias to any experience, and do not discern the experience as it truly was. Probably an effect of the 'monolith' tainting our experiences with what to think, instead of what we think.

this would also apply to the concept, be like no one else.
 Quoting: SickScent


Very succinctly put, also encompassing the concept of dead words and dynamic action.

Because are we mediating or communicating? Creating clones or personalities to give us an 'other' perspective.

It's like the W S Burroughs gambit where all powerful minds create clones of themselves to empower their opinions.

Probably why I'm always looking for something I didn't think of in other people, yet something quite alive and shared.

On that note sir, I'm going to enter the vacuum and bang out some chords and do some howling and see what ghosts come up.

I'll check in intermittently.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


:busythumb:
 Quoting: SickScent


Every time i see that guy I think of point break and the fact that it was actually remade into the fast and furious with a clone of Keanu or at least his acting style.

Then I think it's time for the kids first 30000km roadtrip.

Thanks for the happy thoughts.
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As Kabta, the god of bricks is likely Nimrod and Geshtu'e is the body and blood that was torn and ripped and pressed into clay to have Enki create man; We have torn down and put up a huge informational substructure to support the pyramid of symbolic informational flow.

Nimrod being the repeating symbol of pride as man tries to elevate himself. Geshtu'e being the repeating of sacrifice to this elevation or potential thereof.

Three arch creator gods also find themselves inextricably woven into most symbolic constructs inherent in our mythologies.

Beyond this creational/informational edifice stand the two substructures which interweave with the plasmic sea of informational capacitance; The control structure and the goal.

The goal stands as obscured by the control structure as to almost infer them as twins or perhaps a binary structure locked in an eternal dance of gravitational intent.

The stated goal of all life is to survive and in the context of survival confer advantage. To confer advantage is to create ego/bias and control information flow.

Metaphysically, the ultimate goal is to decode control structures and to elevate oneself to a heaven/eden/paradise.
This again created a rift in cultural structures since an unknown outcome created an ambiguity of intentional paradigms.It also called forth cultural context to furnish an Ideal of ones ultimate paradise.

To the warrior society a final resting place of peace and harmony is as counterintuitive as a love cult having a heaven of discord and toil. This is the variable which became most exploited to create the control substructure. Likely, the reason that purely intellectual sects such as the gnostics divorced themselves of mass organizational structures and were ultimately destroyed by them. As need is as individual as the individual.
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The dope and political constructs. Essential realms in the control construct.
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The endtimes are a great marketing ploy. Not since 1666 and the raging of the plague have the monolithic institutions of the earth seen a clamouring of the unwashed for salvation.

is it any wonder the wars on terrorism and drugs have amped up a notch to stop people from intellectually wandering far from the fold??

The counter reformation is never what you think it is.

Politically and strategically the Israeli's/Judaics have been put in a catch 22 situation and the hornets nest of radical Islam has been stirred accordingly.

Cui Bono?

Cue monty python skit: No one expects the inquisition.


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Does my overly exaggerated codpiece inhibit you? It's just an illusion to get at the true meat of matters.
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