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How the Illuminati Really Began.

 
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And you will hear it and know it, if you know thyself. Otherwise it will stock by loudly trumpeting and you will call it base and crude.
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hmm
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it was just a thunk. I'm trying to create an antithesis for the 1200x1200.
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So many are calling for a return to dead letters and a bipolar god of constants enforcing his rules or rising us to the level supermen and clones to enforce behavioral norms and godliness.

This defeats the purposes of self exploration, creativity and potentials. What are the highest highs without the ragged, cutting lows. What is love but self indulgence without understanding and the ability to mediate and find connection; Only for impermanance and doubt to rend it asunder into the dirt and detritius and allow new eyes and new generations a chance to put it together in their way; Perhaps a better way, but impermanent and mutable as previously.

If there is no dying and no death, except in the maya of self delusion; How could a god that was not a rabid psychopath not smile at the effort and industriousness of his emanations, no matter how self involved or imperfect.

 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I think it it is not God who is the rabid psychopath, but the the vast majority of selfish humans who mindlessly consume without ever thinking of the over all picture or plan. We are destroying the earth and there is no need to keep the game going for the sake of the game. The military's, governments are in place with the control mechanisms and prisons with the forces to man them to implement a new system that we need and are implementing. A system ruled by law and a managed destruction of the industrialized world.

The Maya was never intended to go forever for that is why we have a New Testament and Book of Revelations. There is a prophecy that must be fulfilled and that this illusion must end. We are in those days.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


As is paralell in all systems; We create gods that reflect our rationalizations of the world. In my world we are all Jesus and everyone is redeemable. When I say god I am often speaking of the emanations of imperfect spokesmen; as myself.

God reflects a mans mind more than a mans mind reflects god.

My enemy is only he who I don't take the time or care to understand. Much of the time it is he who defines me truer than I define myself.

As is will be. I assume nothing and hope for everything.

Thank you for your reflections.
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So many are calling for a return to dead letters and a bipolar god of constants enforcing his rules or rising us to the level supermen and clones to enforce behavioral norms and godliness.

This defeats the purposes of self exploration, creativity and potentials. What are the highest highs without the ragged, cutting lows. What is love but self indulgence without understanding and the ability to mediate and find connection; Only for impermanance and doubt to rend it asunder into the dirt and detritius and allow new eyes and new generations a chance to put it together in their way; Perhaps a better way, but impermanent and mutable as previously.

If there is no dying and no death, except in the maya of self delusion; How could a god that was not a rabid psychopath not smile at the effort and industriousness of his emanations, no matter how self involved or imperfect.

 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I think it it is not God who is the rabid psychopath, but the the vast majority of selfish humans who mindlessly consume without ever thinking of the over all picture or plan. We are destroying the earth and there is no need to keep the game going for the sake of the game. The military's, governments are in place with the control mechanisms and prisons with the forces to man them to implement a new system that we need and are implementing. A system ruled by law and a managed destruction of the industrialized world.

The Maya was never intended to go forever for that is why we have a New Testament and Book of Revelations. There is a prophecy that must be fulfilled and that this illusion must end. We are in those days.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


As is paralell in all systems; We create gods that reflect our rationalizations of the world. In my world we are all Jesus and everyone is redeemable. When I say god I am often speaking of the emanations of imperfect spokesmen; as myself.

God reflects a mans mind more than a mans mind reflects god.

My enemy is only he who I don't take the time or care to understand. Much of the time it is he who defines me truer than I define myself.

As is will be. I assume nothing and hope for everything.

Thank you for your reflections.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


And I believe you to be correct. As much as my opinion defines anything.
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What will emanate with the rising of the fifth age?. Solely questions never to be answered or a manifestation so sacredly tuned as we cannot help be awed by it. Lost in the moment and instinctively unfettered.

No thoughts, just a shared recognized tune rendered to the synesthesia of colours swirling. Lost in three days dark of the void being retuned to a new harmonic. The four points of pyramid raise to birth the octahedral hum of heavenly choir.

Will we remember as the astral tour buses disgorge their thousands to help suffuse the tune into the new aether. Chronos will smile and cease his toil. All will be amazed, with not a critic amongst them.

The spheres will resonate the footsteps which syncopate the beats of all hearts. He who is She pads its feet through the corridors of the maternity ward of virgin birth.

All sense is suspended, all disbelief rendered inconsequential. There are no words. Words are the mother of lies and collection of dues. Here there are pictures pure and unfettered by interpretation. They are hung in music. Suspended by the mathematical precision that is only heard once an age.

Make sure to have tickets and no back stage passes. The moment will be forgotten, but forever etched on our collective souls.

Three nights only. No warm up acts.
Pure intent and purer beats.
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What most of us desire is a time-frame that does not include the word, SOON.
 Quoting: SickScent


Can we remember anything which is not the word but pure Image and tone. I suppose we can create ersatz copies, but whatever happens lets just take it like surfers.

Damn, you guys have me missing the oceans. Me and my little dragons ripping and curling on gods breath.
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What will emanate with the rising of the fifth age?. Solely questions never to be answered or a manifestation so sacredly tuned as we cannot help be awed by it. Lost in the moment and instinctively unfettered.

No thoughts, just a shared recognized tune rendered to the synesthesia of colours swirling. Lost in three days dark of the void being retuned to a new harmonic. The four points of pyramid raise to birth the octahedral hum of heavenly choir.

Will we remember as the astral tour buses disgorge their thousands to help suffuse the tune into the new aether. Chronos will smile and cease his toil. All will be amazed, with not a critic amongst them.

The spheres will resonate the footsteps which syncopate the beats of all hearts. He who is She pads its feet through the corridors of the maternity ward of virgin birth.

All sense is suspended, all disbelief rendered inconsequential. There are no words. Words are the mother of lies and collection of dues. Here there are pictures pure and unfettered by interpretation. They are hung in music. Suspended by the mathematical precision that is only heard once an age.

Make sure to have tickets and no back stage passes. The moment will be forgotten, but forever etched on our collective souls.

Three nights only. No warm up acts.
Pure intent and purer beats.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What most of us desire is a time-frame that does not include the word, SOON.
 Quoting: SickScent


Also, In a way, we are creating it here, sans the perfection.
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I think it it is not God who is the rabid psychopath, but the the vast majority of selfish humans who mindlessly consume without ever thinking of the over all picture or plan. We are destroying the earth and there is no need to keep the game going for the sake of the game. The military's, governments are in place with the control mechanisms and prisons with the forces to man them to implement a new system that we need and are implementing. A system ruled by law and a managed destruction of the industrialized world.

The Maya was never intended to go forever for that is why we have a New Testament and Book of Revelations. There is a prophecy that must be fulfilled and that this illusion must end. We are in those days.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


If you have a moment, read my little piece on the reconceptualization of Lunar tidal cyclical time. as opposed to Solar extraterrestrial time keepers. Do you get why I say we are aliens on our own planet??
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What will emanate with the rising of the fifth age?. Solely questions never to be answered or a manifestation so sacredly tuned as we cannot help be awed by it. Lost in the moment and instinctively unfettered.

No thoughts, just a shared recognized tune rendered to the synesthesia of colours swirling. Lost in three days dark of the void being retuned to a new harmonic. The four points of pyramid raise to birth the octahedral hum of heavenly choir.

Will we remember as the astral tour buses disgorge their thousands to help suffuse the tune into the new aether. Chronos will smile and cease his toil. All will be amazed, with not a critic amongst them.

The spheres will resonate the footsteps which syncopate the beats of all hearts. He who is She pads its feet through the corridors of the maternity ward of virgin birth.

All sense is suspended, all disbelief rendered inconsequential. There are no words. Words are the mother of lies and collection of dues. Here there are pictures pure and unfettered by interpretation. They are hung in music. Suspended by the mathematical precision that is only heard once an age.

Make sure to have tickets and no back stage passes. The moment will be forgotten, but forever etched on our collective souls.

Three nights only. No warm up acts.
Pure intent and purer beats.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


What most of us desire is a time-frame that does not include the word, SOON.
 Quoting: SickScent


Can we remember anything which is not the word but pure Image and tone. I suppose we can create ersatz copies, but whatever happens lets just take it like surfers.

Damn, you guys have me missing the oceans. Me and my little dragons ripping and curling on gods breath.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Lifelong surfer here. Smack the lip.

Also, KT surfs as well.
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1.75 billion year seasons. 9 times around the galactic center. Were we born in the spring or the torrid summer?.
Galactic waves silently break on the shores of possibility.


Todays mayan date: 4 men(eagle)
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So many are calling for a return to dead letters and a bipolar god of constants enforcing his rules or rising us to the level supermen and clones to enforce behavioral norms and godliness.

This defeats the purposes of self exploration, creativity and potentials. What are the highest highs without the ragged, cutting lows. What is love but self indulgence without understanding and the ability to mediate and find connection; Only for impermanance and doubt to rend it asunder into the dirt and detritius and allow new eyes and new generations a chance to put it together in their way; Perhaps a better way, but impermanent and mutable as previously.

If there is no dying and no death, except in the maya of self delusion; How could a god that was not a rabid psychopath not smile at the effort and industriousness of his emanations, no matter how self involved or imperfect.

 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


I think it it is not God who is the rabid psychopath, but the the vast majority of selfish humans who mindlessly consume without ever thinking of the over all picture or plan. We are destroying the earth and there is no need to keep the game going for the sake of the game. The military's, governments are in place with the control mechanisms and prisons with the forces to man them to implement a new system that we need and are implementing. A system ruled by law and a managed destruction of the industrialized world.

The Maya was never intended to go forever for that is why we have a New Testament and Book of Revelations. There is a prophecy that must be fulfilled and that this illusion must end. We are in those days.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


As is paralell in all systems; We create gods that reflect our rationalizations of the world. In my world we are all Jesus and everyone is redeemable. When I say god I am often speaking of the emanations of imperfect spokesmen; as myself.

God reflects a mans mind more than a mans mind reflects god.

My enemy is only he who I don't take the time or care to understand. Much of the time it is he who defines me truer than I define myself.

As is will be. I assume nothing and hope for everything.

Thank you for your reflections.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


My pleasure and thanks for yours as always.

In my world, very few people are like Jesus or can be now and yes sure everyone is redeemable, but only a few earn the rite ;)

When you say, "God reflects a mans mind more than a mans mind reflects god", I disagree because we live in an artificial system that humans operate in Godless manner protecting their artificial Gods or ignorant beliefs. Man's mind is the reflection of this system and the CHAO that we see now is the result of the same dysfunctional non-order that we live in today. The maya has served its purpose and now it must end.

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I think it it is not God who is the rabid psychopath, but the the vast majority of selfish humans who mindlessly consume without ever thinking of the over all picture or plan. We are destroying the earth and there is no need to keep the game going for the sake of the game. The military's, governments are in place with the control mechanisms and prisons with the forces to man them to implement a new system that we need and are implementing. A system ruled by law and a managed destruction of the industrialized world.

The Maya was never intended to go forever for that is why we have a New Testament and Book of Revelations. There is a prophecy that must be fulfilled and that this illusion must end. We are in those days.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


If you have a moment, read my little piece on the reconceptualization of Lunar tidal cyclical time. as opposed to Solar extraterrestrial time keepers. Do you get why I say we are aliens on our own planet??
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Is it in this thread? It's hard keep up...Link?

Last Edited by Gnostic Warrior on 01/31/2012 05:14 PM
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I think it it is not God who is the rabid psychopath, but the the vast majority of selfish humans who mindlessly consume without ever thinking of the over all picture or plan. We are destroying the earth and there is no need to keep the game going for the sake of the game. The military's, governments are in place with the control mechanisms and prisons with the forces to man them to implement a new system that we need and are implementing. A system ruled by law and a managed destruction of the industrialized world.

The Maya was never intended to go forever for that is why we have a New Testament and Book of Revelations. There is a prophecy that must be fulfilled and that this illusion must end. We are in those days.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


If you have a moment, read my little piece on the reconceptualization of Lunar tidal cyclical time. as opposed to Solar extraterrestrial time keepers. Do you get why I say we are aliens on our own planet??
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Is it in this thread? It's hard keep up...Link?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I'll repost.


Re: How the Illuminati Really Began.
The eternal dance of moon and sun

Acolmiztli has Huitzilopochtli on the run

Mictlan ejects her favored son

Quetzalcoatl plumed and plumb

Morningstar reflects the change

The world awakens from Tezcatlipoca deranged

Smoking mirrors to reflections hue

Evening Star divides the two

Chronos is set askew



This is a poem reflective of a change between Lunar and Solar time and the transit of venus on June 6th, 2012. The Aztec system is reflective of 13 (trecena) changes between the forces of light (7 days) and darkness(6 nights) cycled through a 20 day (uinal) sacred system to create a 260 day wave/harmonic cycle (tzolkin).

There is also a 360 day calendar reflective of the 29.5 Lunar cycle. Time in the Lunar calendar was reflective of the organic tidal/cyclical nature . This was superceded by the solar calendar and the 365.25 day cycle of the sun. The quantitative measure consumed the qualitative harmonic.

It also manifested itself in the way we categorize and value time by unit analytical measure and not the gestalt of organic change. Man was summarily removed from the system and the incremental machine took hold.

On june 6th we see the first stirrings of the rise of Quetzalcoatal; who is associated with the morningstar (Venus). He stands as a god of reflection and accord taking the place of Tezcatlipoca and the smoking mirror of discord.

The significance harkens to a change not only of how man collects and signifies time; But, perhaps how he relates or returns to a terra centric view of the world.
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I think it it is not God who is the rabid psychopath, but the the vast majority of selfish humans who mindlessly consume without ever thinking of the over all picture or plan. We are destroying the earth and there is no need to keep the game going for the sake of the game. The military's, governments are in place with the control mechanisms and prisons with the forces to man them to implement a new system that we need and are implementing. A system ruled by law and a managed destruction of the industrialized world.

The Maya was never intended to go forever for that is why we have a New Testament and Book of Revelations. There is a prophecy that must be fulfilled and that this illusion must end. We are in those days.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


If you have a moment, read my little piece on the reconceptualization of Lunar tidal cyclical time. as opposed to Solar extraterrestrial time keepers. Do you get why I say we are aliens on our own planet??
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Is it in this thread? It's hard keep up...Link?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I'll repost.


Re: How the Illuminati Really Began.
The eternal dance of moon and sun

Acolmiztli has Huitzilopochtli on the run

Mictlan ejects her favored son

Quetzalcoatl plumed and plumb

Morningstar reflects the change

The world awakens from Tezcatlipoca deranged

Smoking mirrors to reflections hue

Evening Star divides the two

Chronos is set askew



This is a poem reflective of a change between Lunar and Solar time and the transit of venus on June 6th, 2012. The Aztec system is reflective of 13 (trecena) changes between the forces of light (7 days) and darkness(6 nights) cycled through a 20 day (uinal) sacred system to create a 260 day wave/harmonic cycle (tzolkin).

There is also a 360 day calendar reflective of the 29.5 Lunar cycle. Time in the Lunar calendar was reflective of the organic tidal/cyclical nature . This was superceded by the solar calendar and the 365.25 day cycle of the sun. The quantitative measure consumed the qualitative harmonic.

It also manifested itself in the way we categorize and value time by unit analytical measure and not the gestalt of organic change. Man was summarily removed from the system and the incremental machine took hold.

On june 6th we see the first stirrings of the rise of Quetzalcoatal; who is associated with the morningstar (Venus). He stands as a god of reflection and accord taking the place of Tezcatlipoca and the smoking mirror of discord.

The significance harkens to a change not only of how man collects and signifies time; But, perhaps how he relates or returns to a terra centric view of the world.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Nice.

The May-an would be my kin as well as the egypti-ans. I believe they are of the same stock as were the church fathers all following the same doctrine. However, this is new teachings for me because I have been just trying to find my way home for the last couple years in order to properly honor my ancestors.

So, are you saying we will be going back to a Lunar cycle?
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If you have a moment, read my little piece on the reconceptualization of Lunar tidal cyclical time. as opposed to Solar extraterrestrial time keepers. Do you get why I say we are aliens on our own planet??
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Is it in this thread? It's hard keep up...Link?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I'll repost.


Re: How the Illuminati Really Began.
The eternal dance of moon and sun

Acolmiztli has Huitzilopochtli on the run

Mictlan ejects her favored son

Quetzalcoatl plumed and plumb

Morningstar reflects the change

The world awakens from Tezcatlipoca deranged

Smoking mirrors to reflections hue

Evening Star divides the two

Chronos is set askew



This is a poem reflective of a change between Lunar and Solar time and the transit of venus on June 6th, 2012. The Aztec system is reflective of 13 (trecena) changes between the forces of light (7 days) and darkness(6 nights) cycled through a 20 day (uinal) sacred system to create a 260 day wave/harmonic cycle (tzolkin).

There is also a 360 day calendar reflective of the 29.5 Lunar cycle. Time in the Lunar calendar was reflective of the organic tidal/cyclical nature . This was superceded by the solar calendar and the 365.25 day cycle of the sun. The quantitative measure consumed the qualitative harmonic.

It also manifested itself in the way we categorize and value time by unit analytical measure and not the gestalt of organic change. Man was summarily removed from the system and the incremental machine took hold.

On june 6th we see the first stirrings of the rise of Quetzalcoatal; who is associated with the morningstar (Venus). He stands as a god of reflection and accord taking the place of Tezcatlipoca and the smoking mirror of discord.

The significance harkens to a change not only of how man collects and signifies time; But, perhaps how he relates or returns to a terra centric view of the world.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Nice.

The May-an would be my kin as well as the egypti-ans. I believe they are of the same stock as were the church fathers all following the same doctrine. However, this is new teachings for me because I have been just trying to find my way home for the last couple years in order to properly honor my ancestors.

So, are you saying we will be going back to a Lunar cycle?
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Here is a repost of mine as well from another thread that I believe pertains to this discussion.

By Saint Beda in the 8th Century - "Now if it will please you likewise to hear the mystical reason in this matter, we are commanded to keep Easter in the first month of the year, which is also called the month of the new fruit, because we are to celebrate the mysteries of our Lord's resurrection and our deliverance, with our minds renewed to the love of heavenly things. We are commanded to keep it in the third week of the same month, because Christ, who had been promised before the law, and under the law, came with grace, in the third age of the world, to be slain as our passover; and rising from the dead the third day after the offering of his passion, it was his pleasure that this should be called the Lord's day, and that the festival of his resurrection should be yearly celebrated on the same. For we also, in this manner only, can truly celebrate his solemnity, if we take care with him to keep the passover, that is, the passage out of this world to the Father, by faith, hope, and charity. We are commanded to observe the full moon of the paschal month after the vernal equinox, to the end, that the sun may first make the day longer than the night, and then the moon may afford to the world her full orb of light; inasmuch as first the Sun of righteousness, in whose wings is salvation, that is, our Lord Jesus, by the triumph of his resurrection, overcame all the darkness of death, and so ascending into heaven, filled his church, which is often signified by the name of the moon, with the light of inward grace, by sending down his Spirit. Which plan of salvation the prophet had in his mind, when he said,' The sun was exalted, and the moon stood in her order.'

§ 436. "He, therefore, who shall contend that the full paschal moon can happen before the equinox, deviates from the doctrine of the holy Scriptures, in the celebration of the greatest mysteries, and agrees with those who venture to believe that they may be saved without the preventing grace of Christ, and who presume to teach that they might have attained to perfect righteousness, though the true Light had never vanquished the darkness of the world, by dying and rising again.

J LOL

Thus, after the equinoctial rising of the sun, and after the subsequent full moon of the first month, that is, after the end of the fourteenth day of the same month, all which, according to the law, ought to be observed, we still, by the instruction of the gospel, wait in the third week itself for the Lord's day; and thus, at length, we celebrate our due Easter solemnity, to show that we do not, with the ancients, honour the shaking off of the Egyptian yoke;

but that, with devout faith and affection, we worship the redemption of the whole world; which having been prefigured in the deliverance of God's ancient people, was completed in Christ's resurrection, to make it appear that we rejoice in the sure and certain hope of the day of our own resurrection, which we believe will happen on the same Lord's day.

St Bede

§ 437. "Now this calculation of Easter, which we show you is to be followed, is contained in a cycle of nineteen years, which began long since, that is, in the very times of the apostles, especially at Rome and in Egypt, as has been said above. But by the industry of Eusebius, who took his surname from the blessed martyr Pamphilius, it was reduced to a plainer system; insomuch that what till then used to be sent about to all the several churches by the patriarch of Alexandria, might, from that time forward, be most easily known by all men, the course of the fourteenth day of the moon being regularly ordered. This paschal calculation, Theophilus, patriarch of Alexandria, composed for the emperor Theodosius, for a hundred years to come. Cyril also, his successor, comprised a series of ninety-five years in five revolutions of nineteen years. After whom, Dionysius Exiguus added as many more, in the same manner, reaching down to our own time. The expiration of these is now drawing near, but there is so great a number of calculators, that even in our churches throughout Britain, there are many who, having committed to memory the ancient rules of the Egyptians, can with great ease carry on those revolutions of the paschal times for any distant number of years, even to five hundred and thirty two years, if they will; after the expiration of which, all that belongs to the succession of the sun and moon, of month and week, returns in the same order as before.

Our time has com
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If you have a moment, read my little piece on the reconceptualization of Lunar tidal cyclical time. as opposed to Solar extraterrestrial time keepers. Do you get why I say we are aliens on our own planet??
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Is it in this thread? It's hard keep up...Link?
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV


I'll repost.


Re: How the Illuminati Really Began.
The eternal dance of moon and sun

Acolmiztli has Huitzilopochtli on the run

Mictlan ejects her favored son

Quetzalcoatl plumed and plumb

Morningstar reflects the change

The world awakens from Tezcatlipoca deranged

Smoking mirrors to reflections hue

Evening Star divides the two

Chronos is set askew



This is a poem reflective of a change between Lunar and Solar time and the transit of venus on June 6th, 2012. The Aztec system is reflective of 13 (trecena) changes between the forces of light (7 days) and darkness(6 nights) cycled through a 20 day (uinal) sacred system to create a 260 day wave/harmonic cycle (tzolkin).

There is also a 360 day calendar reflective of the 29.5 Lunar cycle. Time in the Lunar calendar was reflective of the organic tidal/cyclical nature . This was superceded by the solar calendar and the 365.25 day cycle of the sun. The quantitative measure consumed the qualitative harmonic.

It also manifested itself in the way we categorize and value time by unit analytical measure and not the gestalt of organic change. Man was summarily removed from the system and the incremental machine took hold.

On june 6th we see the first stirrings of the rise of Quetzalcoatal; who is associated with the morningstar (Venus). He stands as a god of reflection and accord taking the place of Tezcatlipoca and the smoking mirror of discord.

The significance harkens to a change not only of how man collects and signifies time; But, perhaps how he relates or returns to a terra centric view of the world.
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Nice.

The May-an would be my kin as well as the egypti-ans. I believe they are of the same stock as were the church fathers all following the same doctrine. However, this is new teachings for me because I have been just trying to find my way home for the last couple years in order to properly honor my ancestors.

So, are you saying we will be going back to a Lunar cycle?
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No, just that we will become more aware of it. I'm going to push it a little further with the ideas of the club of Rome and some assorted individual thinkers on our soon to be potentialities.

The reaffirmation of these systems is the affirmation of qualitative, organic time and shunning of Calvinistic Solar extra terrestriality.

We become who we pretend to be. --K.Vonnegut
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The coming age and the cessation of hostilities

With the end of world war II and an end to hostilities in the Pacific. There came a choice. A choice that was fused to the new realities of the Industrial systems honed to efficiency by the wars needs.

The choice was essentially: Would the workers of the Americas be afforded new freedoms and abilities by the efficiencies of their ingenuity or would they become entangled in these machineries in the complexities of a world trapped in the ongoing mindset of war.

Buckminster Fuller postulated: that the resources consumed solely by the trip back and forth to work and the time lost in transit; That it was more efficient to create more leisure time to afford greater resource savings and benefits to communities and the families that made them up.

The war time output persevered as Germany and Europe were pulled from the rubble.

The club of Rome also foresaw this scenario and by the endeavour of protecting greed ceded universal rights for the ongoing gain of a few. Monies were made inextricably bound to self perpetuating machineries of industry and not to the potential health of a country or the individual efforts which comprised it's collective gestalt.

The cyclical machine and entitlement refused to see the whole and again chose the machinations of war.

Money has begotten money rather than an efficiency of exchange and a rewarding of the culture which has propagated these machineries. Ever more interest bearing schemes promised a false idol of ever sustainable growth. As the system becomes ever more divorced from the systemic freedoms that spawned it; It has created vast inflationary pressures while devaluing an already stressed workforce further.

By creating money in tandem with mass inefficiencies and the lack of oversight on the systems and cultures that have created efficiences through their ethics and values;

The true notion of value and potential have been lost for the self fulfilling calvinist work ethic and the inability to stop the theme of senseless ongoing wars on the demons of fictitious sloth.
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The statues of Egypt have a peculiarity. They depict a nesting of an identical smaller statue at the feet of it's gigantic twin. This is not ubiquitos, but rather common. It is an example of the phenomenology of Ra.

The foot or feet of the smaller nested represents the heel of Ra ; Our rooting in the Material. The aura and it's subsequent emanation are known as the double or the ego which dies with you. It is the portion of mind which is cautious (ka). Both are teachings of the lower kingdom (aspect) of Egypts mystery schools. Isis

Beyond the Ka, lies the Ba. The astral soul or soul which is freed upon death. It is the metaphorical dionysian soul rooted in the carefree and heroic. This soul is often associated with Nephthys. An alternate name is the black virgin.

The Saha or spiritual body is representative of the 14 pieces of Osiris. The quest for wholeness and divinity and the aspect of these drives.

Set is seen as a spiral or kundalini energy which cycles between the generative aspect of Isis and the implied duality of Nephthys. He is the primary rising and falling tonal aspect.

The Divine soul body is implied as always existing but unable to exert any influence on it's lesser aspects.

Horus the younger represents the psycho spiritual presence.Horus the elder represents the divine kha and acts as a guide to man. Horus Set represents the union of self conciousness and self centeredness in the individual.


Anubis, the opener of the Apuat, represents the psycho spiritual heart centeredness of the individual; As the smaller Jackal apuat represents the spiritual memory or intuition.

This is as much a psychological construct of all the forces present in the individual, as it is an exploration of the realms of spirituality. It manifests the four higher forms and conciousnesses of Dharma (higher sense of purpose). Karma, the individuated sense of duty. Self sacrifice and the drive for self exploration and expression of common and Individual goals.
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The coming age and the cessation of hostilities

With the end of world war II and an end to hostilities in the Pacific. There came a choice. A choice that was fused to the new realities of the Industrial systems honed to efficiency by the wars needs.

The choice was essentially: Would the workers of the Americas be afforded new freedoms and abilities by the efficiencies of their ingenuity or would they become entangled in these machineries in the complexities of a world trapped in the ongoing mindset of war.

Buckminster Fuller postulated: that the resources consumed solely by the trip back and forth to work and the time lost in transit; That it was more efficient to create more leisure time to afford greater resource savings and benefits to communities and the families that made them up.

The war time output persevered as Germany and Europe were pulled from the rubble.

The club of Rome also foresaw this scenario and by the endeavour of protecting greed ceded universal rights for the ongoing gain of a few. Monies were made inextricably bound to self perpetuating machineries of industry and not to the potential health of a country or the individual efforts which comprised it's collective gestalt.

The cyclical machine and entitlement refused to see the whole and again chose the machinations of war.

Money has begotten money rather than an efficiency of exchange and a rewarding of the culture which has propagated these machineries. Ever more interest bearing schemes promised a false idol of ever sustainable growth. As the system becomes ever more divorced from the systemic freedoms that spawned it; It has created vast inflationary pressures while devaluing an already stressed workforce further.

By creating money in tandem with mass inefficiencies and the lack of oversight on the systems and cultures that have created efficiences through their ethics and values;

The true notion of value and potential have been lost for the self fulfilling calvinist work ethic and the inability to stop the theme of senseless ongoing wars on the demons of fictitious sloth.
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It has served its purpose and now a new spiritual economy is needed as we pull the plug on the old age while we educate our kin about what is to come. An economy based on our basic material needs governed by what is best for our earth and future generations before self.

A socialist type of communistic crash to manage the fall as we see now. However, we must try to harvest the wheat to help plan the new age via the same way we had done it in the beginning of this age.





Our words as weapons and books as peace makers ;)



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It has served its purpose and now a new spiritual economy is needed as we pull the plug on the old age while we educate our kin about what is to come. An economy based on our basic material needs governed by what is best for our earth and future generations before self.

A socialist type of communistic crash to manage the fall as we see now. However, we must try to harvest the wheat to help plan the new age via the same way we had done it in the beginning of this age.

Our words as weapons and books as peace makers ;)

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I honestly only believe in models of decentralization. The farther a government is from the people the more entitlement and less duty they feel. The constitution works as a very good form for the egalatarian community based on value and efficiency.

Our current system is fraught with inefficiencies, namely centralized governments and corptocracies defending themselves with overburdeningly complex laws and teams of lawyers.

I am all for free enterprise, but not monopoly and unconstitutional legalistic practices based on corruption of legislating bodies.
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It has served its purpose and now a new spiritual economy is needed as we pull the plug on the old age while we educate our kin about what is to come. An economy based on our basic material needs governed by what is best for our earth and future generations before self.

A socialist type of communistic crash to manage the fall as we see now. However, we must try to harvest the wheat to help plan the new age via the same way we had done it in the beginning of this age.

Our words as weapons and books as peace makers ;)

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I honestly only believe in models of decentralization. The farther a government is from the people the more entitlement and less duty they feel. The constitution works as a very good form for the egalatarian community based on value and efficiency.

Our current system is fraught with inefficiencies, namely centralized governments and corptocracies defending themselves with overburdeningly complex laws and teams of lawyers.

I am all for free enterprise, but not monopoly and unconstitutional legalistic practices based on corruption of legislating bodies.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


word

But only free enterprise based on what our societal needs are and not just to make someone rich or to have another gadget or thingy magoo to pollute our earth. Until then, the decentralization will be a socialist type of communistic crash. churchlady

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The low base frequency of slow undulations will insinuate itself into the souls of man and beast.

Leaving a slow birthing of madness in some.

Others will feel intent sharpened.

Clinched jaws and Steely, quick jabbing glances

The twain shall meet with instinctive intent

The mad children of chaos

The cold children of order

The smoking mirror will not clear easily

The cool night will not submit the burning day without a long dusk of the collection of purpose.

The outcome is known

And in another age will be reversed

But now we stand at the breach expectantly

Creating futures with slow tracing eyes.

The images will flicker life from back of minds burned

To aether
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"The art of flying is all in forgetting you are falling down"
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As with all things occluded and mysterious, the power never sits within obvious seats or places. The Egyptian mystery schools adhered to this dogma, not only by building into its architecture astral reasoning. But by occluding the true power of rite into the isolated interior, far from the pomp of the delta.

Alexandria and Bubastis held knowledge of the physical plane. The main libraries as repositories as sums to material knowledge. The entire delta region as it' appellation of the Lower kingdom denotes was a place of collection and trades.

The duality of Lunar and solar time was presented most directly as the delta, plexus of the Nile, was suggestive of Lunar cycles of inundation and other tidal phenomenon. As the initiate was lead into the interior the literal ravages of Solar influences became apparent by the tides of Sand and desert.

This was a literal manifestation of accretion and entropy.

These extremes also typified the polar extremes of spirit over material being by the lack of material sustenance available in the sere of desert. Far from the bustle of cosmopolitan Egypt lay the initiations in the semi divine planes within the Elephatine and Edfu. Abu Simbel, on the border of present day Sudan, brought the secrets of the divine.

Today these remote outposts are located on the manmade Lake Nasser.
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Is it in this thread? It's hard keep up...Link?
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I'll repost.


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The eternal dance of moon and sun

Acolmiztli has Huitzilopochtli on the run

Mictlan ejects her favored son

Quetzalcoatl plumed and plumb

Morningstar reflects the change

The world awakens from Tezcatlipoca deranged

Smoking mirrors to reflections hue

Evening Star divides the two

Chronos is set askew



This is a poem reflective of a change between Lunar and Solar time and the transit of venus on June 6th, 2012. The Aztec system is reflective of 13 (trecena) changes between the forces of light (7 days) and darkness(6 nights) cycled through a 20 day (uinal) sacred system to create a 260 day wave/harmonic cycle (tzolkin).

There is also a 360 day calendar reflective of the 29.5 Lunar cycle. Time in the Lunar calendar was reflective of the organic tidal/cyclical nature . This was superceded by the solar calendar and the 365.25 day cycle of the sun. The quantitative measure consumed the qualitative harmonic.

It also manifested itself in the way we categorize and value time by unit analytical measure and not the gestalt of organic change. Man was summarily removed from the system and the incremental machine took hold.

On june 6th we see the first stirrings of the rise of Quetzalcoatal; who is associated with the morningstar (Venus). He stands as a god of reflection and accord taking the place of Tezcatlipoca and the smoking mirror of discord.

The significance harkens to a change not only of how man collects and signifies time; But, perhaps how he relates or returns to a terra centric view of the world.
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus


Nice.

The May-an would be my kin as well as the egypti-ans. I believe they are of the same stock as were the church fathers all following the same doctrine. However, this is new teachings for me because I have been just trying to find my way home for the last couple years in order to properly honor my ancestors.

So, are you saying we will be going back to a Lunar cycle?
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No, just that we will become more aware of it. I'm going to push it a little further with the ideas of the club of Rome and some assorted individual thinkers on our soon to be potentialities.

The reaffirmation of these systems is the affirmation of qualitative, organic time and shunning of Calvinistic Solar extra terrestriality.

We become who we pretend to be.
--K.Vonnegut
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Blurred images of self realization. I walk in problematic times to filter what I am being. I walk with unsteady presence to a happenstance of what I might pretend to be. Not pretentious, at all. I am something I will never pretend to be.
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Pretending dilutes intent and makes a liar of even our actions. I completely get what I believe you to be saying.
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Blurred images of self realization. I walk in problematic times to filter what I am being. I walk with unsteady presence to a happenstance of what I might pretend to be. Not pretentious, at all. I am something I will never pretend to be.
- SickScent
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Pretending dilutes intent and makes a liar of even our actions. I completely get what I believe you to be saying.
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I wrote that about 20 years ago. It is about losing yourself while trying to find yourself. I was in the midst of trying to find myself (self realization), therefor, everything about and around me was blurred. Should I continue that? Or should I pretend that I am not who I am, and stop the search? Those questions were my unsteady presence...

It was never about pride, or 'look at me!'. And, even back then, I understood the ramifications of pretending to be something that you are not.
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Blurred images of self realization. I walk in problematic times to filter what I am being. I walk with unsteady presence to a happenstance of what I might pretend to be. Not pretentious, at all. I am something I will never pretend to be.
- SickScent
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Pretending dilutes intent and makes a liar of even our actions. I completely get what I believe you to be saying.
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I wrote that about 20 years ago. It is about losing yourself while trying to find yourself. I was in the midst of trying to find myself (self realization), therefor, everything about and around me was blurred. Should I continue that? Or should I pretend that I am not who I am, and stopped the search? Those questions were my unsteady presence...

It was never about pride, or 'look at me!'. And, even back then, I understood the ramifications of pretending to be something that you are not.
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With me it stemmed from being so lucky I felt unlucky. I tried to destroy everything I was because I felt I was given everything just by being me and not merit.

My physical being insulted my intelligence so to speak. And now I see all that self castigation as part of the process of making me who I am.

Purpose is always veiled in self questioning. In the end it made me blunt and open with no time to waste.
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Hey D n G, where'd you go? You were a catalyzing vector in all this and seemingly you have nothing to say??
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The moon tugs at the oceans waters and the rivers venous intercourses.

The water cuts through minerals rocks and inters her blood in the soil.

Sun burns waters to vapours and leaves the residues of waters excisions.

Vapour alits to sky for energetic plasmic intercouses and produces children as cloud

The children cry for their home and disgorge their tears on fertile fields

The fields blood coalesces with the energetic intent of the skies inseminations

Plant conciousness sways to the silent song of solar magnets

And insinuates its rhythms into colour and scent

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