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How the Illuminati Really Began.

 
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Yeah, but who wants to work on themselves when it's WAAAAAY more fun to work on the pookie first.

Step 1: Get right with SELF...

scratching Some day I'll finish that "getting right with self" thing...or realize finally it's like a continuing process.
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No, You just gotta find that person that likes those broken in parts and isn't induced by the great illusion of perfection in the external.

My wife is the first person I travelled 50 000kms with and didn't want to kill or part ways with regardless of all the apparent faults that arise and become apparent.

People in unfamiliar surroundings will drop all facades rather quickly. this is what I was trying to imply to you in the Jesus take the wheel convo.
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VERY TRUE!!
I lived in Korea for a year and a few of the best friends I have still to this day are people I met there in that one year. Guess a deeper level bond can be made in situations that allow you to be more real or free with others.
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Yup. A day can be a year when you put yourself out there. that's also why I seek wild places to regenerate in. Outside a comfort zone breaks down the numbing filters we place on reality to cope.

In a very real way, it rebirths your psyche and distills your purpose.
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This is the most bull shit thread ever.

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This is the most bull shit thread ever.

bsmeterovercap
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thank you, have you read it all or are you just having a bad day?
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And with that, the writing is on the wall. Time to let er go before we bury this thread in my blatherings.......


3, 2, 1 cue the houselights.

Cheers D n G, for providing the impetus.
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And with that, the writing is on the wall. Time to let er go before we bury this thread in my blatherings.......


3, 2, 1 cue the houselights.

Cheers D n G, for providing the impetus.
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And Cheers to you for providing the substance.

Do excuse that i couldn't be of more assistance.

However i have been reading the thread and have enjoyed it.

The thread is always open.

And i have been getting on my motorcycle with zen.

True what they say its not the same when your riding in a car ;) Boxed in.
My relationship with death hasnt changed......I am strongly against it.
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And with that, the writing is on the wall. Time to let er go before we bury this thread in my blatherings.......


3, 2, 1 cue the houselights.

Cheers D n G, for providing the impetus.
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And Cheers to you for providing the substance.

Do excuse that i couldn't be of more assistance.

However i have been reading the thread and have enjoyed it.

The thread is always open.

And i have been getting on my motorcycle with zen.

True what they say its not the same when your riding in a car ;) Boxed in.
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It's quite a good metaphor for filters on the material world. Start a thread and i'll be there.
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No, You just gotta find that person that likes those broken in parts and isn't induced by the great illusion of perfection in the external.
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Cool, now I know what I just need to do. It sounds so easy with you :) If only there was some kind of megastore to find theses "persons" :p
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bump for later
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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The latest shenanigans of the Illuminati at last year's Bohemian Grove are highlighted in this new documentary, ILLUMINAZI - BILDERBERG WEST BOHEMIAN GROVE: [link to www.youtube.com]
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I just went running with Metzner and Grof to regain my perspective.

I think i'll just summate what I've bantered so far for the sake of clarity and a marker to begin anew.

The original Idea of the Illuminati seems to have evolved into a question of the free flow of information and symbols of significance which are generated by an intellectual elite.

On the other side of this are the soldiers and enforcers of the system that represent technology used to control the people and keep them in check.

Above them and completing the pyramid are the Masters that control the flow of resources to either of these groups and consequently the flow that trickles to us: the great unwashed.

As with the Hegelian dialectic, The Master is also the servant of these two forces. As resources flow from one group to the other (The Lion or the Lamb); The common people see a limiting or opening of potential and a rise or fall in their civilization.

This interplay and shifting between the two is very connected to geopolitics and which Masters (Houses) are allowed the flow of given resources to redistribute.

A dearth of resources call for a limitation of intellectual resource and even potential disassembling and clampdown of information which furthers the cultural and economic freefall.

Organizations and cultures can maintain monolithic, information controlling institutions insofar as new challenges have not arisen that require the shifting of the status quo. Ergo Information flow, beyond the rote and cyclical maintenance need is kept to the highest levels instead of being disseminated.

This control structure also imposes itself on the Interracial, Intercultural exchanges given to DNA. As a culture remains propagandistic and closed to external information it calls for a closed racial profile paralell to the lack of new or free information flow.

Again, as information flows freely a monlithic, closed society is given to exchange and diversify until the ultimate swing in poles brings about an imposed control and crystalization of hierarchy.

This was broached in the flow of civilization and dominant cultural symbolism from Mesopotamia--Greece--Rome--England--America.

At this juncture we started to analyze the imagery and dominant cultural Ideals as mirrored and imposed on Religion, Economic and Cultural institutions.

To further the debate is to look at the inevitabilities of current situations and potential synthesis in the eschatological age.

Will it be a synthesis of fire or of reinvigorating a golden age through Union and the merging of the future by releasing the biases of the past.

My 5 cents.

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Dion, would you mind if I posted this in my blog?
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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If these humans were that stupid to fall for such a rouse then I guess we must be related to them.

I can understand how this may have worked for a short period of time, however, once autonomous people as you suggested they would have eventually caught on and taken their power back. No this is a stupid and fabricated version of what may have occurred. I believe some type of trauma to the human psyche perhaps cumulative, coupled with a perverse and exceptional intelligence as in a psychopathic control matrix could have been the only reason we are where we are at today.

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I just went running with Metzner and Grof to regain my perspective.

I think i'll just summate what I've bantered so far for the sake of clarity and a marker to begin anew.

The original Idea of the Illuminati seems to have evolved into a question of the free flow of information and symbols of significance which are generated by an intellectual elite.

On the other side of this are the soldiers and enforcers of the system that represent technology used to control the people and keep them in check.

Above them and completing the pyramid are the Masters that control the flow of resources to either of these groups and consequently the flow that trickles to us: the great unwashed.

As with the Hegelian dialectic, The Master is also the servant of these two forces. As resources flow from one group to the other (The Lion or the Lamb); The common people see a limiting or opening of potential and a rise or fall in their civilization.

This interplay and shifting between the two is very connected to geopolitics and which Masters (Houses) are allowed the flow of given resources to redistribute.

A dearth of resources call for a limitation of intellectual resource and even potential disassembling and clampdown of information which furthers the cultural and economic freefall.

Organizations and cultures can maintain monolithic, information controlling institutions insofar as new challenges have not arisen that require the shifting of the status quo. Ergo Information flow, beyond the rote and cyclical maintenance need is kept to the highest levels instead of being disseminated.

This control structure also imposes itself on the Interracial, Intercultural exchanges given to DNA. As a culture remains propagandistic and closed to external information it calls for a closed racial profile paralell to the lack of new or free information flow.

Again, as information flows freely a monlithic, closed society is given to exchange and diversify until the ultimate swing in poles brings about an imposed control and crystalization of hierarchy.

This was broached in the flow of civilization and dominant cultural symbolism from Mesopotamia--Greece--Rome--England--America.

At this juncture we started to analyze the imagery and dominant cultural Ideals as mirrored and imposed on Religion, Economic and Cultural institutions.

To further the debate is to look at the inevitabilities of current situations and potential synthesis in the eschatological age.

Will it be a synthesis of fire or of reinvigorating a golden age through Union and the merging of the future by releasing the biases of the past.

My 5 cents.

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Dion, would you mind if I posted this in my blog?
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Not at all. You can sign it Mik.
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If these humans were that stupid to fall for such a rouse then I guess we must be related to them.

I can understand how this may have worked for a short period of time, however, once autonomous people as you suggested they would have eventually caught on and taken their power back. No this is a stupid and fabricated version of what may have occurred. I believe some type of trauma to the human psyche perhaps cumulative, coupled with a perverse and exceptional intelligence as in a psychopathic control matrix could have been the only reason we are where we are at today.
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The problem lies in the significance of the propaganda. It's always sold as for the betterment of the children.

The trauma has been covered in the eschatology thread.

The trauma and scarcity created the us and them duality which has been the very fabric of the lion and the lamb control mechanism and the furthering of control of the verbum (language) to facilitate 'false' logic.
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Oops, looks like I popped back on the houselights. I like the cavernous echoes in here.
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Mr Crowley. What was your final thought.

Impenetrable black. Absolute pitched tar black...
After the Bright White and the unrelenting hum of the robed. Their intention is bloody annoying. Almost all obscuring. But the madness helped me focus. The soothing unguent of the primal juices. It infused my neutralizing talisman and gave me an obscuring.

Would you have ventured to the Qabballic zero or anywhere in its vicinity.

Now that's a quaint notion Mr Jung.

Why quaint?

It would shake my being beyond recognition. It would reset and exploit any intention I could ever construe. There would or could not be an I there. Its the windpipe of the Metatron. Resonated by the footsteps of He who Is. Nothing but pure focused intent could survive a razors second.

Hmmmm. Well thank you for your frankness.
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BTW, Dion, I love these little Jungian clips.

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"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Everyones gathered in Bardo, waiting. Trying to construe the colours remembered from life and balance them with what they see flitting by in death and waiting.

The colours and tones are slightly cracked by the consistent emanation from the 1200x1200, but the organic 360^360 machine will capture and degauss the vibrational bodies. But, its place holders, Us, must clear their intent as best as they can to create the = of exhalation.
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ahhh, this has all clicked in my mind. Something strange, and so out of place as this paragraph above, in my mind, now makes some fucking sense. lol
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Everyones gathered in Bardo, waiting. Trying to construe the colours remembered from life and balance them with what they see flitting by in death and waiting.

The colours and tones are slightly cracked by the consistent emanation from the 1200x1200, but the organic 360^360 machine will capture and degauss the vibrational bodies. But, its place holders, Us, must clear their intent as best as they can to create the = of exhalation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9140338


ahhh, this has all clicked in my mind. Something strange, and so out of place as this paragraph above, in my mind, now makes some fucking sense. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


It's like images from a speeding bus window driving through a town you once knew in the still of the night, interspersed with flashes from overhanging streetlights of momentary awareness.

This is probably the reason I traveled so long just looking, only feeling at home in alien environments.
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Yes, females made us create this system. If it was up to us man, we would still just tell them to clean the cave a bit sometimes.
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Lol, no. remember what males truly worship; Our first gods were Goddesses and we worshiped their fertility as we worshiped our arable soil or animal spirits, if we were still hunters.
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Remember ? You were there ?
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Everyones gathered in Bardo, waiting. Trying to construe the colours remembered from life and balance them with what they see flitting by in death and waiting.

The colours and tones are slightly cracked by the consistent emanation from the 1200x1200, but the organic 360^360 machine will capture and degauss the vibrational bodies. But, its place holders, Us, must clear their intent as best as they can to create the = of exhalation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9140338


ahhh, this has all clicked in my mind. Something strange, and so out of place as this paragraph above, in my mind, now makes some fucking sense. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


It's like images from a speeding bus window driving through a town you once knew in the still of the night, interspersed with flashes from overhanging streetlights of momentary awareness.

This is probably the reason I traveled so long just looking, only feeling at home in alien environments.
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Your imagery is pure poetry.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Yes, females made us create this system. If it was up to us man, we would still just tell them to clean the cave a bit sometimes.
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Lol, no. remember what males truly worship; Our first gods were Goddesses and we worshiped their fertility as we worshiped our arable soil or animal spirits, if we were still hunters.
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Remember ? You were there ?
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The phrase is: remember what males truly worship------fertility, the invocation of dreams made material
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Everyones gathered in Bardo, waiting. Trying to construe the colours remembered from life and balance them with what they see flitting by in death and waiting.

The colours and tones are slightly cracked by the consistent emanation from the 1200x1200, but the organic 360^360 machine will capture and degauss the vibrational bodies. But, its place holders, Us, must clear their intent as best as they can to create the = of exhalation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9140338


ahhh, this has all clicked in my mind. Something strange, and so out of place as this paragraph above, in my mind, now makes some fucking sense. lol
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It's like images from a speeding bus window driving through a town you once knew in the still of the night, interspersed with flashes from overhanging streetlights of momentary awareness.

This is probably the reason I traveled so long just looking, only feeling at home in alien environments.
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Your imagery is pure poetry.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Cheers, just sharing pictures.
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ahhh, this has all clicked in my mind. Something strange, and so out of place as this paragraph above, in my mind, now makes some fucking sense. lol
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It's like images from a speeding bus window driving through a town you once knew in the still of the night, interspersed with flashes from overhanging streetlights of momentary awareness.

This is probably the reason I traveled so long just looking, only feeling at home in alien environments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14022539


Your imagery is pure poetry.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


Cheers, just sharing pictures.
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Cheers!
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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3/7ths of the way there.
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:colorbump:

Will begin working on these things again, Dion. I feel invigorated again to soak some stuff up.

I knew it had to be you that bumped.
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Bammmmm!
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Bammmmm!
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Boink!!!
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No movement, she must be gone for good. ;)

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