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 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus

As Am I. I've said I was born to it and of it; not that I came to it or found agreement to it.

Forced conversions and intimidation caused many to occlude their beliefs. Those who were overt were slaughtered.

If it were't for these conversions, the number of Hebrews and Gnostics would be abundant indeed.

This was also the model that besieged the new world and the destruction of Native creeds of varying ilks and the call for self loathing.
 Quoting: KnightsTemplar.TV

To conquer or to be conquered was the question that our Gnostic ancestors had posed amongst themselves for centuries.

Fortunately for us brothers living here today, some of our very wise gnostic ancestors (Culdees, Druids etc) chose it was best to "settle" under new legal rites via the New Testament with the warrior class (Romans) to join the Roman Rite and thus incorporating each other's Gods under the Universal Brotherhood now known as the Catholic Church for they knew that the peaceful ends justifies the warrior means for I have come to bring you not peace, but a sword our Lord Jesus had said.

It is true that many Gnostics refused to "settle" under the new Jesus of Christianity. Therefor they simply were not using common sense, but rather holding on to outdated Gnostic beliefs that were eventually shattered and or murdered by the Romans who went by the rule, "If you are not with us, you are against us."

My Gnostic ancestors chose the wise route of aligning or should I say "settling" with the warriors. To settle a dispute takes 2 parties or more. Hence, the warriors (Romans) in aligning themselves with the Gnostics by incorporating them into the empire as the priests, kings advisers and fathers of this age. Warriors and Gnostics adjoined via the Universal Church held together by one body to this day through a web of secret societies, orders and corporations that rule the world through CHAO so no one human can figure that which is really so easy to see when one was a witness in the building of the same said foundation born again to see the end via capping for the Temple is complete.

If the Gnostic brothers would have opened their eyes to the ends instead of holding on to outdated Gnostic means, the horrors of the conversions would have been much less and the ends could have been here many centuries ago. However, this same ends just took much longer than at first anticipated for "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

But I can safely say it is close, real close.

To that I say, "AMEN!"
 Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflatus

As you can guess; My antecedents were of the hardheaded variety. So much so that we persisted quite flagrantly and over the years were granted special dispensation and as of three years ago were granted all of our lands back through legal means.

I guess you might get a slightly truer understanding of why I am such a tedious bastard with a penchant for minutae. It has also bonded us inexorably to the common man and understanding of all our common histories.

It is important to remember that we ,as a species, were mostly nomadic and that bonded us to this earth. As we became civil; We lost our stewardship and union. As under Pax Romanum we could either take the route of artificial specialization that came with cities or be broken by the yoke of ostracism and perpetual aggression.

We chose the later and prospered. As you will often read me say: It is important that we maintain our individuality, even in agreement. Otherwise we choose a system not of us and manufacture our own slavery through complicity.

I would love to see the rise of organic learning which dynamically ascertains the needs of students rather than accepted dogma or hard bound social constructs.

This is likely why I posted the Attila quotes: to evince the point that we must leave space for the dynamism of the individual; which is bound, but seemingly misunderstood within the constitution and bill of rights.

As always, a pleasure


All power will always have to be checked by persistence in checks and balances. Most importantly by engaged and engaging individuals given freedom to explore any and all questions; primarily, for their own benefit and secondarily, for the benefit of the collective.

Entitlement solely arises from the belief that privilege is somehow inferred by birth and not earned through tedious daily engagement.
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