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Tithing 10% of your income/earned money to the church is NOT scriptural.

 
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Let me clarify one thing:

GIVING and TITHING are two completely different things. the heart is involved in two completely different ways.
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But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. Then on of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"

Jesus said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment.

"And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'

"On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

(Mt 22; 34-40)






Hebrews 9: 11-15


But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from DEAD WORKS to serve the living God?

And for this reason HE IS THE MEDIATOR OF THE NEW COVENANT, by means of death, FOR THE REDEMPTION OF THE TRANSGRESSIONS UNDER THE FIRST COVENANT, that those who are called may receive promise of the eternal inheritance.
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Let me clarify one thing:

GIVING and TITHING are two completely different things. the heart is involved in two completely different ways.
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i have listened to this man distort more scriptures about money than probably any other tv preacher out there.

look at his name: "Dollar"

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part 2 - he says "tithing is the key to empowerment from God"


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If one really wants to get Biblical, the early followers gave EVERYTHING and shared all in common.

Acts 4:34-37
34Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,

35And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

36And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,

37Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.


Mark 10:1-21
17And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?

18And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

19Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.

20And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.

21Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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part 2 - he says "tithing is the key to empowerment from God"



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listen at about 1:58
he talks about how people who do not tithe have no success, have a lot of critical issues, tragedies, bad things happen to them.
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Yes 691


And that is why the very early Christians were referred to as "firstfruits." The first fruits are the best.


What you see in the modern day church......the last fruits.
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this guy is .... um..... wow....

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false teachers and prosperity preachers EXPOSED

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Last Edited by Rev Woo-Woo on 01/11/2012 01:48 AM
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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When does TESTAMENT III come out because I'm not really digging the first two...
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Paul to Christians:


"For when we were in the flesh, the passions of sins WHICH WERE AROUSED BY THE LAW were at work in our members to bear fruit to death.

"But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the SPIRIT and not in the oldness of the letter."


Romans 7: 5-6
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take this, thread of irrelevance!! this is you!

give to your church if you can, give to others if you can.
if you go to church, you should give to it, if you can.
if you are a human, you should give to other, worse off, humans, if you can.

that's my 2 cents
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Hebrews 9: 11-15


But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from DEAD WORKS to serve the living God?

And for this reason HE IS THE MEDIATOR OF THE NEW COVENANT, by means of death, FOR THE REDEMPTION OF THE TRANSGRESSIONS UNDER THE FIRST COVENANT, that those who are called may receive promise of the eternal inheritance.
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Jesus isn't even a Levite! How can He be High Priest???
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good clips of money grubbing false preachers

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"knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified."


Gal 2: 16
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"knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified."


Gal 2: 16
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amen and hallelujiah
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I base my tithe on on what Abraham did:

(Genesis 14:18-20)
And Melchizedek king of Shalem brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said, "Blessed be Abram of God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth; and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand." And he gave him a tenth of all.

It is obvious that even with Cain and Abel God established offerings.... I give to God through my church.
 Quoting: S.O.S.


The ONLY new Testament advice on giving was given by Paul, who told us NOT to give under COMPULSION, but out of only freewill offerings.

Tithing was a principle of the Old Testament that did not even APPLY to everybody. Only the people who raised livestock and produce. Tithing was not even MONEY. It was food or goods. It was to provide sustenance for the Levite Priests, who did God's work, and had no income.

No where in the entirety of scripture does it require ALL Israelites to give a tenth of their pay to ANYBODY.

As far as Abraham goes, He gave 10th of "the spoils of war" as a tithe. It wasn't even his OWN possessions that he donated!
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Anything I put in the offering box, I consider a donation to the church for the carrying out of their work. My offering to the Father is everyday in as many ways as I can fit in and I don't consider it an offering, rather a gift of love. It's between the Father and me - no one else and it has nothing to do with money!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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I think that the main thing to remember is that God loves a cheerful giver.


Everything is God's anyway.......so when you are helping out someone in need......it is a gift to them from God.


But monitor carefully your thoughts and emotions.


Give as the Spirit leads you.
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I base my tithe on on what Abraham did:

(Genesis 14:18-20)
And Melchizedek king of Shalem brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of God Most High. And he blessed him and said, "Blessed be Abram of God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth; and blessed be God Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand." And he gave him a tenth of all.

It is obvious that even with Cain and Abel God established offerings.... I give to God through my church.
 Quoting: S.O.S.


actually using a false bible has cost you a tenth of all.. lol


Gen 14:18 KJV - And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he [was] the priest of the most high God.
Gen 14:19 KJV - And he blessed him, and said, Blessed [be] Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
Gen 14:20 KJV - And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
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Tithing to me is giving back to God 10% of what he has blessed me with (far less than what the government TAKES from me in taxes). God has provided me with a job, a home, and food to eat. Tithing my income is my way of showing my appreciation for the other 90% that I'm free to do with as I please. I may not have a lot, but there are plenty of people out there who have far less than what I have.

Maybe you don't want to help others through donating to a church, but church's can reach a lot more needy people and do a lot more good for others collectively than what we can do as individuals. So I feel it's a GOOD thing to tithe to a religious organization.

I don't do it to get rich! I do it because I enjoy helping others and sharing with others. But from my own personal experience, I do feel that God does bless the people who do tithe. I had a good paying job and tithed for quite some time. I then started worrying about the fact that I didn't have anything put away for retirement or a rainy day. I knew plenty of people who didn't tithe and decided to start putting some of that money away for a rainy day. BIG mistake! I started having health problems and had to give up that good paying job.

NOW, I tithe regularly even with a much smaller income. I'm not saying that tithing will make anyone rich, just that God has continued to provide for me in lots of little ways. I may not have the money to go out and buy everything that I would like to have, but God has managed to keep the things that I do have in running order. I have a fridge that's over 20 years old and still running. The battery in my vehicle is over 15 years old and still working! The vehicle it's in is just as old and still running as well. Just last summer I had a friend over to help trim some tree branches that were hanging onto my roof. He said he couldn't do it (didn't have the equipment) and I'd probably have to hire somebody to have it done. So that was the end of that, or so I thought, since I didn't have the money to go out and hire someone. Don't get me wrong, I DON'T like storms! But, a bad storm blew through shortly after that with winds clocked at close to 100 mph in some of the areas near where I live. When I went outside to see what type of damage might have been done, there was no damage to my house OR shingles, just lots of tree branches that needed to be cleaned up. I no longer have ANY branches hanging onto my roof and it didn't cost me a dime to have them removed!

So you can do as you want with your money, but I intend to keep tithing with mine.
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What's next? Are you going to say that you don't have to execute people for breaking the Sabbath??? GOD COMMANDED IT!!!!!
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watch the video... watch the whole video
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Religion poisons everything. Go to church if you want, give them half your money if you want but, Jesus Christ don't make us hear about it!!!!

I was 10 years old when my mother died of cancer. My dad spent a fortune on that. He was lucky to have any money left for us kids. The parish priest came over to the house a week after she died and demanded that my dad come back to church and continue tithing!!! Holy fuck stick.....I thought he was gonna kill that child fucker!!! I would have loved to see him at least kick the tittie fucking christ out of that chicken necked choir boy cock sucker!!!


granny FUCK ALL YOU BIBLETARDS!!!!!
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give it up to the church when the tithe plate comes around or you will be treated with great disparagement by the congregation. they may even have a special meeting with you about your faith and support of gods church. neglect the tithe plate at your peril
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Tithing to me is giving back to God 10% of what he has blessed me with
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yeah but yer not giving it to god yer giving it to people who fooled you into thinking their gods middlemen. suggest using that 10% to do good works for the world and cut out the middlemen
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give it up to the church when the tithe plate comes around or you will be treated with great disparagement by the congregation. they may even have a special meeting with you about your faith and support of gods church. neglect the tithe plate at your peril
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Goddamn, that is pathetic!!!

Cut this coupon out and put it in the plate!!!


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What's next? Are you going to say that you don't have to execute people for breaking the Sabbath??? GOD COMMANDED IT!!!!!
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lol really? Thats some fucked up shit right there
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part 2 - he says "tithing is the key to empowerment from God"



 Quoting: Salt


listen at about 1:58
he talks about how people who do not tithe have no success, have a lot of critical issues, tragedies, bad things happen to them.
 Quoting: Salt


Mostly idiots have bad things happen to them cause,,,,,THEIR IDIOTS!!!!
I can explain shit to you all day but, I can't understand it for ya!!!!





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