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Serpent Seed Theory *Christians Only*

 
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OH George Fox...Quaker Stuff! Love those guys. Deep stuff, those early quakers were something else.

How did you know about them, how did you find that sight. Just curious?


About four years ago, I stumbled upon a website that - upon studying for a while - utterly convinced me that the human body/brain was specifically built for meditation. The website also convinced me that Jesus taught meditation as prayer, and that the scriptures were not what people generally believed them to be. This shocked me as all churches I'd ever been to, (and I've been to many in my long years ;)), taught that meditation was of the devil.

So, I became obsessed with researching church/religious history to see if I could find evidence of this. Also, I researched the Essenes, and whether Jesus was one of them, but could come to no solid conclusions.

Eventually, after about a year of searching, I sat down at my computer and googled "Did Jesus meditate?" Bingo - this website, (hallvworthington.com), came up and I began to read.

From the very first, I felt gripped by what I read and a surety was born in my heart that what they were saying was utterly true.

Soon after, I had an experience which I only recently came to understand as a baptism occurred inside of me and it was like scales had fallen from my eyes especially with regards to scripture. A lot of it was suddenly opened up to me and I was aware that a new understanding was in place in my heart. I then had the "life review" that everyone thinks only happens after we die.

Since then, I've studied this site and its writings and I am finding that it is like a template. By following what is instructed, one will definitely experience everything that is taught. I've been a student of it for the past few years.

The writings of George Fox as well as the other Quakers cannot be studied enough for their brilliance and help.

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Do you know what I mean by programmed...(not only the mental conditioning/societal) but programmed deep within our very DNA

we are programmed to receive

when if we do, we are irreparably harmed

He/she/it 'The Force' (Satan, Lucifer) knew what he was doing when he seduced Eve.

All this shit happening.
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Yes eve had sex with the serpent, who was used of Satan. The serpent was a creature very similar to man in his bodily form.

Satan is called many things in scripture, it doesn't mean he is physically those things named. Just as Herod was called a fox by Jesus, it doesn't mean the man Herod was a fox.


Read the links to the serpent seed I posted above and you will understand.
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Yes I understand Herod was called a fox by Jesus but it doesnt mean Herod the man was a fox. But the word "ancient" in the book of Rev 20:2 pretty must explains it all. "Ancient Serpent." You cant get any more ancient than the book of Genesis in terms of bible timeline.

I could also say, when Satan was called an Ancient Serpent it doesnt mean the being Satan actually an Ancient Serpent but was in his real form while in the garden.
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This thread is not a call for spiritual discussion....it seems to be just an attempt to use scriptures to justify hatred of the white race.
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My intentions had nothing to do with what you just said. How could it be justified as a way to hate the white race when Mary came from Eve's lineage who then gave birth to Jesus. Mary was a white woman and Jesus was a white man. Well, Jesus chose to come as a white man. He had to come through Mary because all the other races were tainted because they had sex with the fallen Angels. The fallen Angels came down and tried to pollute every bloodline so Jesus's birth could be tainted but there was one man Noah and his wife who did not have sex with the fallen Angels. Just because Adam had sex with Satan doesnt mean anyone should hate the white man. His actions dont represent how white men are today. Satan's words are so deceptive, it could have been an asian man, or a black man, who got duped by Satan in that garden but it just so happens the black man and the asian man wasnt in that garden but the white man was.
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This thread is not a call for spiritual discussion....it seems to be just an attempt to use scriptures to justify hatred of the white race.
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My intentions had nothing to do with what you just said. How could it be justified as a way to hate the white race when Mary came from Eve's lineage who then gave birth to Jesus. Mary was a white woman and Jesus was a white man. Well, Jesus chose to come as a white man. He had to come through Mary because all the other races were tainted because they had sex with the fallen Angels. The fallen Angels came down and tried to pollute every bloodline so Jesus's birth could be tainted but there was one man Noah and his wife who did not have sex with the fallen Angels. Just because Adam had sex with Satan doesnt mean anyone should hate the white man. His actions dont represent how white men are today. Satan's words are so deceptive, it could have been an asian man, or a black man, who got duped by Satan in that garden but it just so happens the black man and the asian man wasnt in that garden but the white man was.
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Yes this is completely true, And of course Satan wouldn't have tempted a black or Asian man They didn't posess what Adam posessed!
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This thread is not a call for spiritual discussion....it seems to be just an attempt to use scriptures to justify hatred of the white race.
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My intentions had nothing to do with what you just said. How could it be justified as a way to hate the white race when Mary came from Eve's lineage who then gave birth to Jesus. Mary was a white woman and Jesus was a white man. Well, Jesus chose to come as a white man. He had to come through Mary because all the other races were tainted because they had sex with the fallen Angels. The fallen Angels came down and tried to pollute every bloodline so Jesus's birth could be tainted but there was one man Noah and his wife who did not have sex with the fallen Angels. Just because Adam had sex with Satan doesnt mean anyone should hate the white man. His actions dont represent how white men are today. Satan's words are so deceptive, it could have been an asian man, or a black man, who got duped by Satan in that garden but it just so happens the black man and the asian man wasnt in that garden but the white man was.
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Yes this is completely true, And of course Satan wouldn't have tempted a black or Asian man They didn't posess what Adam posessed!
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No, Satan couldnt have tempted the black man or the asian man because God didnt put them in the garden. And God did not tell the asian man or the black man to not eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

If God chose the black man or the asian man to be in the garden Satan would have tempted them too. Now do you know why God didnt choose the black man or the asian man to be in the garden? If you believe in the Serpent Seed theory then you have to believe in the pre adamic races who were created before Adam.

God created men to fight and hunt, the black man and the asian man. Then he needed a farmer/gardener so he created Adam. Why did God choose the white man to be a farmer? That is beyond me, we wont know that answer until we die and ask God ourselves. But what I do know is God has specific purposes for everyone. There is nothing wrong with the white race or the black or the asian race because what did God say when he made them? "They were good." and he was satisfied with his work.
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This thread is not a call for spiritual discussion....it seems to be just an attempt to use scriptures to justify hatred of the white race.
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My intentions had nothing to do with what you just said. How could it be justified as a way to hate the white race when Mary came from Eve's lineage who then gave birth to Jesus. Mary was a white woman and Jesus was a white man. Well, Jesus chose to come as a white man. He had to come through Mary because all the other races were tainted because they had sex with the fallen Angels. The fallen Angels came down and tried to pollute every bloodline so Jesus's birth could be tainted but there was one man Noah and his wife who did not have sex with the fallen Angels. Just because Adam had sex with Satan doesnt mean anyone should hate the white man. His actions dont represent how white men are today. Satan's words are so deceptive, it could have been an asian man, or a black man, who got duped by Satan in that garden but it just so happens the black man and the asian man wasnt in that garden but the white man was.
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Yes this is completely true, And of course Satan wouldn't have tempted a black or Asian man They didn't posess what Adam posessed!
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No, Satan couldnt have tempted the black man or the asian man because God didnt put them in the garden. And God did not tell the asian man or the black man to not eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

If God chose the black man or the asian man to be in the garden Satan would have tempted them too. Now do you know why God didnt choose the black man or the asian man to be in the garden? If you believe in the Serpent Seed theory then you have to believe in the pre adamic races who were created before Adam.

God created men to fight and hunt, the black man and the asian man. Then he needed a farmer/gardener so he created Adam. Why did God choose the white man to be a farmer? That is beyond me, we wont know that answer until we die and ask God ourselves. But what I do know is God has specific purposes for everyone. There is nothing wrong with the white race or the black or the asian race because what did God say when he made them? "They were good." and he was satisfied with his work.
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I meant to say fish and hunt
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This thread is not a call for spiritual discussion....it seems to be just an attempt to use scriptures to justify hatred of the white race.
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My intentions had nothing to do with what you just said. How could it be justified as a way to hate the white race when Mary came from Eve's lineage who then gave birth to Jesus. Mary was a white woman and Jesus was a white man. Well, Jesus chose to come as a white man. He had to come through Mary because all the other races were tainted because they had sex with the fallen Angels. The fallen Angels came down and tried to pollute every bloodline so Jesus's birth could be tainted but there was one man Noah and his wife who did not have sex with the fallen Angels. Just because Adam had sex with Satan doesnt mean anyone should hate the white man. His actions dont represent how white men are today. Satan's words are so deceptive, it could have been an asian man, or a black man, who got duped by Satan in that garden but it just so happens the black man and the asian man wasnt in that garden but the white man was.
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I apologize for misunderstanding your intentions then.
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No, there is no Biblical proof for Pre-Adamic races, let alone being black or Asian. that is just preposterously funny, if you were not serious.

Not that there weren't pre-adamic races, not saying that, but it is not written about in the Bible.


If they were 'bad' as in Serpent Seed, don't you think that Moses would have known this, coming from his good education in all things religious, from Egyptian mystery school and Babylon, Sumer, he knew all of this, and - yet, he married a black girl.

So? She was pretty. She was chosen by him to be his wife.

His sister was prejudiced. But if she were like you say, Midnight Rider, from a pre-adamic serpentine race, he wouldn't have married her.

Please, people! There was a Christian preacher long ago I approached at a Dinosaur show, (Ken something?wrote books about it) and I asked him about this original seduction by Satan, and he angrily tossed it out as 'anti-biblical' just because HE had mistakenly 'heard' this (anti-Biblical) theory, (racist, too), that that would 'have to mean that the Black people were of Satan!' What the Fuck was he taking, he was so insulting to me just because he assumed that I assumed this same predisposition of Black people even being involved specially!

OMG Please, you will put this truth in a very bad way, and then, people will be more ignorant than ever, equating the truth with this stupid thing! He actually thought that the curse of Cain was being black! He cast me out of his dinosaur setup! And all I did was to ask him his opinion on how that has to do with the Christian practices we are taught, etc.

He simply did not understand anything, or he knew it all, and wanted to cast a monkeywrench in my learning.

He was a surefire Asshole if I ever heard one.
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You are a psychoanalyst's wet dream, OP.
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I can see how my post can come off as trolling but its not. The Serpent Seed theory says that the kenites who are the decendants of Cain (Who is the product of Eve and Satan having intercourse)are the ones who control the world through the 4 hidden dynasties of Satan, government, education, religion, and finance. The theory says they (kenites) are the ones who are working to set up a one world system. The serpent seed theory says Cain is Abels twin but hes not from Adam's blood but of Satans. Im not trolling, look it up. Serpent Seed and Kenite.
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The Bible CLEARLY tells us that Cain was NOT the literal offspring of Satan:

GENESIS 4:1 Now ADAM knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, "I have acquired a man from YHVH."

Also, all of the offspring of Cain were destroyed in the Flood. This is why none of their ages are given in the Bible; it didn't matter when they were born.

It wasn't until later in history that angels began having sex with human women:

GENESIS 6:1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them,
2 the sons of God [i.e., angels] saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
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Your timeline is all wrong. Yes he was the literal offspring of Satan. Read some of the previous post that are in huge paragraphs and that will put you to the right path. Angels were here first, then had sex with women and men, then the flood came.
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You are a psychoanalyst's wet dream, OP.
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I can see how my post can come off as trolling but its not. The Serpent Seed theory says that the kenites who are the decendants of Cain (Who is the product of Eve and Satan having intercourse)are the ones who control the world through the 4 hidden dynasties of Satan, government, education, religion, and finance. The theory says they (kenites) are the ones who are working to set up a one world system. The serpent seed theory says Cain is Abels twin but hes not from Adam's blood but of Satans. Im not trolling, look it up. Serpent Seed and Kenite.
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The Bible CLEARLY tells us that Cain was NOT the literal offspring of Satan:

GENESIS 4:1 Now ADAM knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, "I have acquired a man from YHVH."

Also, all of the offspring of Cain were destroyed in the Flood. This is why none of their ages are given in the Bible; it didn't matter when they were born.

It wasn't until later in history that angels began having sex with human women:

GENESIS 6:1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them,
2 the sons of God [i.e., angels] saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5117892


Your timeline is all wrong. Yes he was the literal offspring of Satan. Read some of the previous post that are in huge paragraphs and that will put you to the right path. Angels were here first, then had sex with women and men, then the flood came.
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I don't need to read any of the previous posts, I've read the Bible. The Hebrew text of Genesis 4:1 is quite clear that Cain was the product of Adam having intercourse with his wife, Chavah ("Eve")...
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The foundation of the Serpent Seed theory is the belief that Eve had sex with Satan and that Satan. Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in. So if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was the only man to have homosexual sex with Satan.

Adam was white because "his is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red" To be red says it all... Only the white man turns red with his skin.

Again, if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was only man known to have homosexual sex with Satan. Do those of you who believe in the Serpent seed agree?
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Genesis is literal. It was a fruit tree forbidden by God. The test was obedience.

Satan the spirit being cannot breed or procreate.
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No, there is no Biblical proof for Pre-Adamic races, let alone being black or Asian. that is just preposterously funny, if you were not serious.

Not that there weren't pre-adamic races, not saying that, but it is not written about in the Bible.


If they were 'bad' as in Serpent Seed, don't you think that Moses would have known this, coming from his good education in all things religious, from Egyptian mystery school and Babylon, Sumer, he knew all of this, and - yet, he married a black girl.

So? She was pretty. She was chosen by him to be his wife.

His sister was prejudiced. But if she were like you say, Midnight Rider, from a pre-adamic serpentine race, he wouldn't have married her.

Please, people! There was a Christian preacher long ago I approached at a Dinosaur show, (Ken something?wrote books about it) and I asked him about this original seduction by Satan, and he angrily tossed it out as 'anti-biblical' just because HE had mistakenly 'heard' this (anti-Biblical) theory, (racist, too), that that would 'have to mean that the Black people were of Satan!' What the Fuck was he taking, he was so insulting to me just because he assumed that I assumed this same predisposition of Black people even being involved specially!

OMG Please, you will put this truth in a very bad way, and then, people will be more ignorant than ever, equating the truth with this stupid thing! He actually thought that the curse of Cain was being black! He cast me out of his dinosaur setup! And all I did was to ask him his opinion on how that has to do with the Christian practices we are taught, etc.

He simply did not understand anything, or he knew it all, and wanted to cast a monkeywrench in my learning.

He was a surefire Asshole if I ever heard one.
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I will not go into detail about the pre adamic races which is clearly in the bible, in the first chapters of the book of genesis, because im more concerned with Adam having sex with Satan. I do hope others will explain it to you though.

People's mindset is so set with groups and races and when one person from a group does something bad they automatically think "oh hes making that group look bad." How about the individual's actions were bad and not the group.

Just because a white man and a white woman had sex with Satan doesnt mean the white race is bad. It just means there actions, those 2, were bad. I really feel like if enoch or noah was in that garden he wouldnt have been tempted and guess what? Enoch and Noah were white. Look at the individual and not the group or the race in this case.

Plus, when God created the races, the black, asian and white, what did the book say? He saw that "they were good" what should that mean to racists?

Also, the offspring of Satan who pretty much controls the world also have a chance at salvation. That is what is so great about the Lord.

You might want to keep in mind that a person who is not even an offspring of Satan can still go to hell if they live a life that God sees as evil and an offspring of Satan can go to heaven if they live a life that God sees as holy. Look at the individual and their actions and not the race or group in this case.
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The foundation of the Serpent Seed theory is the belief that Eve had sex with Satan and that Satan. Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in. So if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was the only man to have homosexual sex with Satan.

Adam was white because "his is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red" To be red says it all... Only the white man turns red with his skin.

Again, if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was only man known to have homosexual sex with Satan. Do those of you who believe in the Serpent seed agree?
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Genesis is literal. It was a fruit tree forbidden by God. The test was obedience.

Satan the spirit being cannot breed or procreate.
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Find out what the word "tree" is and its original meaning when it was being used in the book of Genesis. There were 2 trees. Find out what those trees were and it will put the puzzle together.
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I can see how my post can come off as trolling but its not. The Serpent Seed theory says that the kenites who are the decendants of Cain (Who is the product of Eve and Satan having intercourse)are the ones who control the world through the 4 hidden dynasties of Satan, government, education, religion, and finance. The theory says they (kenites) are the ones who are working to set up a one world system. The serpent seed theory says Cain is Abels twin but hes not from Adam's blood but of Satans. Im not trolling, look it up. Serpent Seed and Kenite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8603756


The Bible CLEARLY tells us that Cain was NOT the literal offspring of Satan:

GENESIS 4:1 Now ADAM knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, and said, "I have acquired a man from YHVH."

Also, all of the offspring of Cain were destroyed in the Flood. This is why none of their ages are given in the Bible; it didn't matter when they were born.

It wasn't until later in history that angels began having sex with human women:

GENESIS 6:1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them,
2 the sons of God [i.e., angels] saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5117892


Your timeline is all wrong. Yes he was the literal offspring of Satan. Read some of the previous post that are in huge paragraphs and that will put you to the right path. Angels were here first, then had sex with women and men, then the flood came.
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I don't need to read any of the previous posts, I've read the Bible. The Hebrew text of Genesis 4:1 is quite clear that Cain was the product of Adam having intercourse with his wife, Chavah ("Eve")...
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Okay, stay in the false paradigm.
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This is worth taking a look at...

[link to www.amazon.com]

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This is worth taking a look at...

[link to www.amazon.com]

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A book debunking the serpent seed theory written by one of the serpent's seed. Nice. Are you going to tell us to read the Popular Mechanics debunking 911 magazine as well and say "Yep, its been debunked, popular mechanic debunked it." Get out of here.
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This is worth taking a look at...

[link to www.amazon.com]

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A book debunking the serpent seed theory written by one of the serpent's seed. Nice. Are you going to tell us to read the Popular Mechanics debunking 911 magazine as well and say "Yep, its been debunked, popular mechanic debunked it." Get out of here.
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Look a racist. All serpent seed believers are racist. I was always taught that the white man was the serpent seed. So who's right? The racist whites that teach that blacks are serpent seed or the racist blacks that teach that the whites are serpent seed? LOL

All of you serpent seed believers are idiots. Stop adding your made up stories to the Bible. It clearly says Adam "did eat", which means he had homosexual sex with Satan.
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Thank You for the nice response.

I agree and yet disagree. I am not splitting hairs, we have created confusion by not seeing the difference between the scriptures and the word.

Also as stated in my orig post...

Jesus speaks exclusively of hearing not reading (sheep, voice, led, follow, ETC...

What do we do with those who could and can not read: This would include the disciples, the first century church when their was no bible except the torah, and the prophets, which people didn't possess, the dark ages, and those prior to the printing press (because of illiteracy, and the price of the printed text).

The common denominator, for all these saints and even the prophets of the OT is "THE WORD" "The spoken word"...It's all they had...

The spoken word is judged by us in that it can never disagree with "GODS INTERPRETATION / REVELATION" of the written text. NT and OT...

Yet this agreement is based upon the proper interpretation. God's interpretation will always be right. But for you to obtain this proper interpretation, it requires Leading / Communion / Fellowship / Hearing the word, as spoken to us by the Spirit...

Your private interpretation of the meaning of the text, just will not do! So do we as Christians have revelation of the scriptures? Do we hear His voice, are we His sheep?

What if we go into a period of time when persecution prohibits us from having the scriptures? What happens then to YOUR Christianity?

How did the Ecklesia thrive in the dark ages? How about in China, Russia? All this thriving "WITHOUT A BOOK"...

Who would you rather be, one who thrived without the book as we see in the first century, dark ages, China, Russia, prior to the printing press...Or one who could only thrive as long as they possessed the book!






The only common denominator
^^^"We have two types of church. Those led by the Spirit, and those seeing and leaning only on "The book". I love the scriptures, and I have several bibles. BUT we must not elevate the bible above God, and I'm afraid that is what many churches (people) have done."

I agree with some of your comments except I'd like to add an opinion to this comment if I may. As I see it, the two types of churches today are
1. Churches that have the presence of God for they teach the Word and
2. Churches that are barren because they do not teach the Word of God.

The Word is God. He is our teacher as you know. Faith comes from hearing, which is understanding the written word as He leads us to the meaning. Christians who do not ever hear or read the Word of God generally can be found in most large churches today. Because they do not read scripture they are misled by false teachers. It is great to be led by the Spirit, but it in no way diminishes reading scripture. We hear God and learn His voice through reading the Word. This command is given on multiple occasions.
Additionally, the falling away actually means a "divorce from truth". Now how can that happen unless somebody has not been listening to God through scripture?
As the parable of the seed on the path shows us,
"As for that in the good soil, they are those who, hearing the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart, and bear fruit  with patience.”

"When you read your Bible take hold of it like a miser taking hold of gold and silver. Take hold of it like a pearl of great price and a treasure in a field. Take hold of it like a drowning man seizes a float. Fight off every word-destroying demonic bird and burning affliction and deceitful desire. Then you will “have” and “more will be given.” You will bear fruit with patience."

Somebody thoroughly understanding the word of God has built their house on a solid foundation - a rock.

As far as the seedline doctrine, an analysis of the Hebrew words does strongly indicate that Eve had sexual relations with the serpent/enchanted. It is worthy to study for it makes sense of Jesus comments regarding children and literal seed of Satan being our enemies. And in this day and age, it is easy to see why he wouldn't like the sleepy Christians even suspecting that there are possibly actual real offspring.
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No, there is no Biblical proof for Pre-Adamic races, let alone being black or Asian. that is just preposterously funny, if you were not serious.

Not that there weren't pre-adamic races, not saying that, but it is not written about in the Bible.


If they were 'bad' as in Serpent Seed, don't you think that Moses would have known this, coming from his good education in all things religious, from Egyptian mystery school and Babylon, Sumer, he knew all of this, and - yet, he married a black girl.

So? She was pretty. She was chosen by him to be his wife.

His sister was prejudiced. But if she were like you say, Midnight Rider, from a pre-adamic serpentine race, he wouldn't have married her.

Please, people! There was a Christian preacher long ago I approached at a Dinosaur show, (Ken something?wrote books about it) and I asked him about this original seduction by Satan, and he angrily tossed it out as 'anti-biblical' just because HE had mistakenly 'heard' this (anti-Biblical) theory, (racist, too), that that would 'have to mean that the Black people were of Satan!' What the Fuck was he taking, he was so insulting to me just because he assumed that I assumed this same predisposition of Black people even being involved specially!

OMG Please, you will put this truth in a very bad way, and then, people will be more ignorant than ever, equating the truth with this stupid thing! He actually thought that the curse of Cain was being black! He cast me out of his dinosaur setup! And all I did was to ask him his opinion on how that has to do with the Christian practices we are taught, etc.

He simply did not understand anything, or he knew it all, and wanted to cast a monkeywrench in my learning.

He was a surefire Asshole if I ever heard one.
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Moses did not marry a black girl, Their were 2 lands named Cush one was in Mesopotamia his wife was a white woman she was a decendant of Keturah, Abraham's wife after Sarah. How on earth does a Decendant of Abraham and Keturah end up an Ethiopian Black woman please explain that?? It is clearly written in Deuteronomy no Mongrel may ever enter the house of the Lord. Their was no tolerance for Interracial Marriages or their offsprings in the bible in fact alot of time's they were banished and not even allowed to live with the Israelites.
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We are seeing in Genesis the account of God's direct influence upon man, Satan, and history. God planned the whole thing. Yet we are discussing the actual event.

Another example would be God's promise to David, that David would have a son, that built the temple that David himself desired badly to build. Solomon who was a (type of Christ)...A promised son.

Yet this promised son, Solomon was produced by Murder, and adultery. David had sex with Bathsheba (as she bathed / see her name? odd...

Anyway, God brought the promised, and planned son through the acts of David, and Bathsheba, which included murder, and adultery, and deception.

No fall in the garden, no cross, no law, no grace, no marriage supper of the Lamb, no heaven...

IT IS ALL A PLAN...



And as far as your Genesis quote, it is foretelling of our redeemer Jesus Christ. When passing sentence on our first parents after their fall; he even then showed the greatness of his mercy, by promising to send them a Redeemer, who should overcome their enemy that had seduced them, saying to the serpent, "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed; she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel." Jesus is the seed and Mary is the woman.
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I thought the title of the post was Christians only...Does that somehow include confused blacks who hate whites?


A book debunking the serpent seed theory written by one of the serpent's seed. Nice. Are you going to tell us to read the Popular Mechanics debunking 911 magazine as well and say "Yep, its been debunked, popular mechanic debunked it." Get out of here.
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Look a racist. All serpent seed believers are racist. I was always taught that the white man was the serpent seed. So who's right? The racist whites that teach that blacks are serpent seed or the racist blacks that teach that the whites are serpent seed? LOL

All of you serpent seed believers are idiots. Stop adding your made up stories to the Bible. It clearly says Adam "did eat", which means he had homosexual sex with Satan.
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Thank You for the nice response.

I agree and yet disagree. I am not splitting hairs, we have created confusion by not seeing the difference between the scriptures and the word.

Also as stated in my orig post...

Jesus speaks exclusively of hearing not reading (sheep, voice, led, follow, ETC...

What do we do with those who could and can not read: This would include the disciples, the first century church when their was no bible except the torah, and the prophets, which people didn't possess, the dark ages, and those prior to the printing press (because of illiteracy, and the price of the printed text).

The common denominator, for all these saints and even the prophets of the OT is "THE WORD" "The spoken word"...It's all they had...

The spoken word is judged by us in that it can never disagree with "GODS INTERPRETATION / REVELATION" of the written text. NT and OT...

Yet this agreement is based upon the proper interpretation. God's interpretation will always be right. But for you to obtain this proper interpretation, it requires Leading / Communion / Fellowship / Hearing the word, as spoken to us by the Spirit...

Your private interpretation of the meaning of the text, just will not do! So do we as Christians have revelation of the scriptures? Do we hear His voice, are we His sheep?

What if we go into a period of time when persecution prohibits us from having the scriptures? What happens then to YOUR Christianity?

How did the Ecklesia thrive in the dark ages? How about in China, Russia? All this thriving "WITHOUT A BOOK"...

Who would you rather be, one who thrived without the book as we see in the first century, dark ages, China, Russia, prior to the printing press...Or one who could only thrive as long as they possessed the book!






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^^^"We have two types of church. Those led by the Spirit, and those seeing and leaning only on "The book". I love the scriptures, and I have several bibles. BUT we must not elevate the bible above God, and I'm afraid that is what many churches (people) have done."

I agree with some of your comments except I'd like to add an opinion to this comment if I may. As I see it, the two types of churches today are
1. Churches that have the presence of God for they teach the Word and
2. Churches that are barren because they do not teach the Word of God.

The Word is God. He is our teacher as you know. Faith comes from hearing, which is understanding the written word as He leads us to the meaning. Christians who do not ever hear or read the Word of God generally can be found in most large churches today. Because they do not read scripture they are misled by false teachers. It is great to be led by the Spirit, but it in no way diminishes reading scripture. We hear God and learn His voice through reading the Word. This command is given on multiple occasions.
Additionally, the falling away actually means a "divorce from truth". Now how can that happen unless somebody has not been listening to God through scripture?
As the parable of the seed on the path shows us,
"As for that in the good soil, they are those who, hearing the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart, and bear fruit  with patience.”

"When you read your Bible take hold of it like a miser taking hold of gold and silver. Take hold of it like a pearl of great price and a treasure in a field. Take hold of it like a drowning man seizes a float. Fight off every word-destroying demonic bird and burning affliction and deceitful desire. Then you will “have” and “more will be given.” You will bear fruit with patience."

Somebody thoroughly understanding the word of God has built their house on a solid foundation - a rock.

As far as the seedline doctrine, an analysis of the Hebrew words does strongly indicate that Eve had sexual relations with the serpent/enchanted. It is worthy to study for it makes sense of Jesus comments regarding children and literal seed of Satan being our enemies. And in this day and age, it is easy to see why he wouldn't like the sleepy Christians even suspecting that there are possibly actual real offspring.
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When we pray, "Give us this day, our daily bread," we are asking for His words to be spoken to us for guidance and teaching....
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The foundation of the Serpent Seed theory is the belief that Eve had sex with Satan and that Satan. Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in. So if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was the only man to have homosexual sex with Satan.

Adam was white because "his is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red" To be red says it all... Only the white man turns red with his skin.

Again, if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was only man known to have homosexual sex with Satan. Do those of you who believe in the Serpent seed agree?
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Whoa whoa woah..."Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in"....WHAT?

You're a dumbfuck!
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Nonsense...

There is too much said by Christ, and in the text of scriptures to be assigned to insignificance by your unwillingness to see deeper than a Sunday school lesson for 4 yr olds.

ALSO IF YOU had read any of the links, you would have found that no where is it taught that Eve has sex with a spiritual being named Satan, but instead had sex with a human like creation, which happened to be a worker of the soil. His genetic platform allowed sex with Eve.

Satan just used him (the serpent) as a vehicle via temptation or suggestion. (IE watching the other animals in the garden having sex, lusting after Eve. ETC)


Genesis is literal. It was a fruit tree forbidden by God. The test was obedience.

Satan the spirit being cannot breed or procreate.
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The foundation of the Serpent Seed theory is the belief that Eve had sex with Satan and that Satan. Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in. So if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was the only man to have homosexual sex with Satan.

Adam was white because "his is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red" To be red says it all... Only the white man turns red with his skin.

Again, if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was only man known to have homosexual sex with Satan. Do those of you who believe in the Serpent seed agree?
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what makes you think ha satan is "male" ? "He" is androgynous.......Also, mankind's skin is the colors of the soil from which he came, red, white, brown et al.
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Please STOP with the HOMO stuff....IT has NOTHING TO DO WITH GENESIS...



The foundation of the Serpent Seed theory is the belief that Eve had sex with Satan and that Satan. Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in. So if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was the only man to have homosexual sex with Satan.

Adam was white because "his is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red" To be red says it all... Only the white man turns red with his skin.

Again, if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was only man known to have homosexual sex with Satan. Do those of you who believe in the Serpent seed agree?
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Whoa whoa woah..."Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in"....WHAT?

You're a dumbfuck!
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NOW THE NEW AGEY STUFF...Oh Boy!@



The foundation of the Serpent Seed theory is the belief that Eve had sex with Satan and that Satan. Now, if Eve had sex with Satan then that means Adam had sex with Satan too because he took part of what Eve took part in. So if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was the only man to have homosexual sex with Satan.

Adam was white because "his is the Hebrew word for "man". It could be ultimately derived from Hebrew אדם ('adam) meaning "to be red" To be red says it all... Only the white man turns red with his skin.

Again, if Adam had sex with Satan then that means the white man was only man known to have homosexual sex with Satan. Do those of you who believe in the Serpent seed agree?
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what makes you think ha satan is "male" ? "He" is androgynous.......Also, mankind's skin is the colors of the soil from which he came, red, white, brown et al.
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I thought the title of the post was Christians only...Does that somehow include confused blacks who hate whites?


A book debunking the serpent seed theory written by one of the serpent's seed. Nice. Are you going to tell us to read the Popular Mechanics debunking 911 magazine as well and say "Yep, its been debunked, popular mechanic debunked it." Get out of here.
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Look a racist. All serpent seed believers are racist. I was always taught that the white man was the serpent seed. So who's right? The racist whites that teach that blacks are serpent seed or the racist blacks that teach that the whites are serpent seed? LOL

All of you serpent seed believers are idiots. Stop adding your made up stories to the Bible. It clearly says Adam "did eat", which means he had homosexual sex with Satan.
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And when all else fails just derail the argument and cry racism. Its up to you to figure out who the Serpent Seed is then. Look at the facts your self. How about Hindu's, Buddhists, and Atheists? Who is the serpent seed to them?

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