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Anti-Polish communities in U.S

 
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10/18/2012 06:19 PM
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oh it took very long until the hitler image came up ... the biggest fear hm? again split up between russia and germany? when u will stop with this old nazi shit?
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10/18/2012 06:23 PM
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oh it took very long until the hitler image came up ... the biggest fear hm? again split up between russia and germany? when u will stop with this old nazi shit?
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Your wish.
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I don't understand why Poles and Lithuanians hate each other. We had a union for over 400 years and yet we hate each other for no reason. Don't listen to this discordant propaganda coming from mainstream media. We should help each other and stand side by side not hate each other.peace


I'm Polish btw
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10/18/2012 06:40 PM
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oh I've forgotten - there is also visas problem , Czechs, Lithuanians (formerly the part of the Soviet Union), Hungarians and Germans needn't to get a visa to be in U.S.A , but not Poles - it's discrimination.(taking fingerprints at the airports not mentioned)
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Where did you get this stupid false piece of information from? I'm starting to see why all those stupid Polish jokes were around 40 years ago....Geez! Everyone NEEDS visa to come here! Lol. OP i haven't heard any pollock jokes in nearly 40yrs now...man are you 'behind the times". I have heard that Polish women are really HOT in bed though! ;)
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I really don't understand what you mean. When you say prejudice , I am meaning people used to say dumb pollock and stuff like that.
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But I have heard the reason there are dumb pollack jokes is because all of the Polish scientists were killed during the hitler ordeal and I also heard more Polish people were killed than Jewish.
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Well yeah but who cares about that.

Only Jews matter.
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oh I've forgotten - there is also visas problem , Czechs, Lithuanians (formerly the part of the Soviet Union), Hungarians and Germans needn't to get a visa to be in U.S.A , but not Poles - it's discrimination.(taking fingerprints at the airports not mentioned)
 Quoting: Johny777 8692165


Where did you get this stupid false piece of information from? I'm starting to see why all those stupid Polish jokes were around 40 years ago....Geez! Everyone NEEDS visa to come here! Lol. OP i haven't heard any pollock jokes in nearly 40yrs now...man are you 'behind the times". I have heard that Polish women are really HOT in bed though! ;)
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Looks like you are not so smart too. It depends on what you want to do there. There are 37 countries allowed to travel to the United States for tourism or business (visitor visa purposes only) for stays of 90 days or less without obtaining a visa.

Andorra
Hungary
New Zealand
Australia
Iceland
Norway
Austria
Ireland
Portugal
Belgium
Italy
San Marino
Brunei
Japan
Singapore
Czech Republic
Latvia
Slovakia
Denmark
Liechtenstein
Slovenia
Estonia
Lithuania
South Korea
Finland
Luxembourg
Spain
France
Malta
Sweden
Germany
Monaco
Switzerland
Greece
the Netherlands
Taiwan
United Kingdom
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This is interesting to watch Polish interpretation of history all the time slightly distorted.

Lithuania did not collaborate with anyone that had some shady or twisted intentions. You can easily look at the whole history.

In 1940 Stalin issued ultimatum, with something "either be exterminated or give up". Everyone knew they can do and will do it. With Latvia and Estonia giving up, there were no chances for successful defense like in 1919 and high risk for extinction of the nation. Government gave up, but there was a gap, without president's allowance or decree any other government is not legal. President fled, leaving Russians to install their own illegal occupational government. From that moment Lithuania is gone as a country. It was illegal annexation that was often reminded in UN and some Lithuanian embassies were not closed for this reason, continued their work until 1990.

In 1941 Russians started mass killings and deportations. Exactly one week after this Lithuanian resistance started war and defeated communists. In 1941-05-23 10:00 Kaunas radio announced
"Occupation of Soviet Union is gone. The end for Soviet terror and treachery with which Lithuanian government was supposedly incorporated into Soviet Union, Lithuanian sovereignty is restored and temporary Lithuanian government is announced to be ...[list of members]... People are called to clean up their living place from occupants and to take local administration into their hands."

Col. K.Skirpa was the head of resistance movement, prime minister of temporary government.

Russians were blowing up bridges with their own troops and tanks, so that noone would not run away. There are photos of Aleksotas bridge blown up at the time when their own army tried to cross it.
German army came into already free Lithuania meeting only some random communists that did not manage to flee or did not meet resistance.

Temporary government was hoping to get some sovereignty rights, but plans by Germans were different. They created Reichskommissariat Ostland where this government would have been only puppet for administrative purposes. Government refused to form any foreign army groups, as it is against the convention of Geneva to form army in the occupied territory. This declaration was sent to Hitler. It was unprecedented. Government was soon replaced by German administration. Former government members were arrested and went to labor camps.
It is the reason why Hitler did not form SS and any army battalions in Lithuania. German administration did form only 25 Police and 5 Bau, or work battalions. These are small numbers.

Despite Lithuania being recognized as racially suitable, unlike other neighbor nations, due to fears of resistance there was enacted "Anschluss" policy with some changes.
[link to www.lituanus.org]

Treacherous Armija Krajowa that was following orders from Polish government in exile came in for the rescue. Surprise! There still is a question how many fleeing persecution or death without any knowledge stumbled upon these traitors and were turned in or killed. Numbers do not add up unless you start looking for other factors. That factor was foreign army actively doing their deeds in Lithuania and covertly following their treacherous dark orders.

There is a big difference either it is government that is collaborating, or government is against collaboration. Armija Krajova was following orders from Polish government in exile and collaborated with both Axis and Communists. Proof are in photos and documents shown in movie. The ones representing these facts in movie are officials from GENOCIDE AND RESISTANCE RESEARCH CENTRE OF LITHUANIA.
[link to www.genocid.lt]

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And finally a bit more info about these events.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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10/29/2012 10:35 AM
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This is interesting to watch Polish interpretation of history all the time slightly distorted.

Lithuania did not collaborate with anyone that had some shady or twisted intentions. You can easily look at the whole history.

In 1940 Stalin issued ultimatum, with something "either be exterminated or give up". Everyone knew they can do and will do it. With Latvia and Estonia giving up, there were no chances for successful defense like in 1919 and high risk for extinction of the nation. Government gave up, but there was a gap, without president's allowance or decree any other government is not legal. President fled, leaving Russians to install their own illegal occupational government. From that moment Lithuania is gone as a country. It was illegal annexation that was often reminded in UN and some Lithuanian embassies were not closed for this reason, continued their work until 1990.

In 1941 Russians started mass killings and deportations. Exactly one week after this Lithuanian resistance started war and defeated communists. In 1941-05-23 10:00 Kaunas radio announced
"Occupation of Soviet Union is gone. The end for Soviet terror and treachery with which Lithuanian government was supposedly incorporated into Soviet Union, Lithuanian sovereignty is restored and temporary Lithuanian government is announced to be ...[list of members]... People are called to clean up their living place from occupants and to take local administration into their hands."

Col. K.Skirpa was the head of resistance movement, prime minister of temporary government.

Russians were blowing up bridges with their own troops and tanks, so that noone would not run away. There are photos of Aleksotas bridge blown up at the time when their own army tried to cross it.
German army came into already free Lithuania meeting only some random communists that did not manage to flee or did not meet resistance.

Temporary government was hoping to get some sovereignty rights, but plans by Germans were different. They created Reichskommissariat Ostland where this government would have been only puppet for administrative purposes. Government refused to form any foreign army groups, as it is against the convention of Geneva to form army in the occupied territory. This declaration was sent to Hitler. It was unprecedented. Government was soon replaced by German administration. Former government members were arrested and went to labor camps.
It is the reason why Hitler did not form SS and any army battalions in Lithuania. German administration did form only 25 Police and 5 Bau, or work battalions. These are small numbers.

Despite Lithuania being recognized as racially suitable, unlike other neighbor nations, due to fears of resistance there was enacted "Anschluss" policy with some changes.
[link to www.lituanus.org]

Treacherous Armija Krajowa that was following orders from Polish government in exile came in for the rescue. Surprise! There still is a question how many fleeing persecution or death without any knowledge stumbled upon these traitors and were turned in or killed. Numbers do not add up unless you start looking for other factors. That factor was foreign army actively doing their deeds in Lithuania and covertly following their treacherous dark orders.

There is a big difference either it is government that is collaborating, or government is against collaboration. Armija Krajova was following orders from Polish government in exile and collaborated with both Axis and Communists. Proof are in photos and documents shown in movie. The ones representing these facts in movie are officials from GENOCIDE AND RESISTANCE RESEARCH CENTRE OF LITHUANIA.
[link to www.genocid.lt]
 Quoting: EMPerror

odnoszac sie do tych wypocin moge powiedziec, ze ta dyskusja nie ma sensu, jest jednostronna , tylko litewski klamca ma tu mozliwosc wypowiadania swoich bzdetow , natomiast prawda pisana przez Polakow jest usuwana. Litwini kolaborowali z nazistami a po dzien dzisiejszy czuja braterstwo z dawnym ZSSR co objawia sie chociazby glosowaniami w eurowizji. Litwinow nigdzie nie bylo w roku 1920, w roku 1956 w roku 1970, a w 1980 stali przy polskiej granicy z niecierpliwoscia oczekujac na mozliwosc mordowania Polakow. CIA co ciekawe podaje jako przyczyne polityki wizowej , brak dostatecznych postepow w lustracji, a jakie sa postepy na Litwie w tej sprawie? Zadne. Zreszta USA nigdy nie zalezalo na rozliczeniu sie postkomunistami czego dowodem jest ich podejscie do wejsca Polski do NATO. Jesli chodzi o zniesienie wiz to skorzysta na tym USA a nie Polska tak jak ma to miejsce w przypadku Wielkiej Brytanii. Jednak przejawy sadystycznej dyskryminacji po prostu bola. Nie jest rowniez novum ze , Putin i USA graja z moim krajem w dobrego i zlego policjanta. Polacy i Rosjanie moga sie dogadac ,zeby obalic rosyjskiego satrape, Ameryka gorzko pozaluje swoich ukladow z Putinem.
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10/29/2012 10:37 AM
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And finally a bit more info about these events.


[link to www.youtube.com]
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tak btw, mam nadzieje ,ze ktos tu jeszcze umie rozroznic mundur zolnierza rosyjskiego od munduru zolnierza polskiego.
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10/29/2012 10:49 AM
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dowody polskiej wspolpracy z nazistami:
Monte Cassino , Wrzesien 1939, 17-09-1939, Bitwa o Anglie , Tobruk , Powstanie Warszawskie , Bitwa o Berlin, 6 milionow zabitych podczas II wojny swiatoweDEFENDER OF ISRAELrzesnia 1939.

Dowody na wspolprace z sowietami:
Bitwa 1920, Katyn, 17-09-1939, Solidrnosc 1980, litewskie czolgi przy polskiej granicy, pazdziernik 1956, 1989, Smolensk 2010 i wiele innych .
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"DEFENDER OF ISRAEL" to teraz wiem kto wycina moje teksty: DEFENDER OF ISRAEL , czy tez raczej zydowski syjonistyczny kretyn , no to dla defendera izraela , udlaw sie palancie :
[link to www.jewsagainstzionism.com]
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3 wrzesnia 1939 - to przyslonil obronca izraela
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observer>
Once you do not have such movie, it may not happen in Poland, you are all rich, wealthy and there simply can't be Polish "girls" in GB or Holland "working"?

When it comes to politics, Lithuania did not collaborate neither with Soviets, nor with Germans. While your "Armija Krajova" proudly managed to do both at the same time. It did happen despite the fact that both sides tried to exterminate them. It is hard to find precedent for such event in history of humankind. You must be proud.


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Don't worry, Czar had a lot of problems and now is simply gone. Not that we had anything to do with it. Anyway that is interesting how we managed to destroy everything. Now you are free to do everything by yourself or without us and our obsession for power to rule others. And you are doing well for the fourth time, as it seems, comrades.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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11/01/2012 08:33 AM
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Evidences of Polish collaboration with the Nazis:

[link to tnij.org]

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[link to tnij.org]
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Evidences of Polish collaboration with the Soviets:

[link to tnij.org]

[link to tnij.org]

[link to tnij.org]

[link to tnij.org]

[link to tnij.org]

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[link to tnij.org]
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btw. Where where Lithuanians in 1980 and 1981?
They were impatiently waiting with other Soviet troops near Polish border.

It's also difficult to tell where were they in 1920 during the Polish Soviet war.
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Poland is the only white country in the Northern hemisphere that has a positive birth rate. Their government (before it was decapitated) supported Christian causes - eg not teaching homosexuality in schools, abortions only in emergency etc. If they are hated , maybe it is because of their Christianity.
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bingo

doesn't fit the satanic order.
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Poland is the only white country in the Northern hemisphere that has a positive birth rate.
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vodka + catholicism(no condoms) = more poles
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chuckle

literally...
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oh it took very long until the hitler image came up ... the biggest fear hm? again split up between russia and germany? when u will stop with this old nazi shit?
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Your wish.
I hope that world never forget about it.
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What was Hitler wrong about? The longer Hitler is dead the more he is proven right. He will go down in history as one of the greatest germans ever.
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Anti-Polish communities in U.S could be some junkies, because of their possible relations with the ruskie mob and the part of the masonry because Poles don't want to be their fucked colony.I haven't mentioned all groups but I think these ones are significant.
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Anti-Polish bigotry in America began in the 19th century. Many Protestants hated all Catholics, but especially those who were poor, uneducated, or enslaved in serfdom. (Polish serfs, living under Austrian and Russian rule in the 19th century, were eventually freed from legal serfdom, but were nevertheless left so economically desperate that most could not afford to send their children to school.)
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Did you have Polish serfs in U.S? I am not asking about the past I am asking about the present times. I doubt your ideas, because there were a lot such a people like Poles (from Italy for instance) and they didn't have problems you described here. If I remember compulsory education existed.


In the 20th century, anti-Polish bigotry has come mostly from the Jewish community. Jewish people made up roughly 10% of the Polish population (up until World War II), and often enjoyed mocking the poverty, lack of education, and lack of freedom of the Polish serfs/peasants. Many Jewish people carried this bigotry to America.
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Giving asylum for jewish people by Poles till the end of the I Republic could have been a problem for U.S protestant bigotry.Many Poles had Jewish roots.jewish people were often also poor.

btw. "Borat" is typical s.c ruskie joke. Some parts of such a sense of humor is included in Peter and the Wolf (2006).


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I think America shares some history with the Poles. Poland was called the country without stakes because it had religious tolerance up until the Protestant Revolt. Like America, Poland also enjoyed a period of strength and prosperity. The problem is that in a relaxed atmosphere, the wolves end up devouring the sheep.
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I'm half polish and lived in PA thirty years ago the people were prejudice against the Polish.
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why?

I am looking for the kernel of anti-Polish sentiment in U.S
 Quoting: Johny777 8692165


I have heard Polish jokes, usually making them out to be dumb, but otherwise I know nothing about them except Hitler invaded Poland and Lech Walen...(Polish is not so easy to spell).

The other day I looked for material to read about Poland to try to find out what the country and it's people are like.

So I have no opinion but would like to know about them.

Same with Ukraine.
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why would someone be anti-polish?
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because of inciting, by ex-KGB, commies (fucked masonic pseudo-socialists) , nazi-fugitives from ex-III Reich, Prussian-line German immigrants (old-fashioned), and a lot of others who are disappointed because the Cold Wars is over.
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What do you know about the Prussians??

That's almost a forbidden topic.
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oh it took very long until the hitler image came up ... the biggest fear hm? again split up between russia and germany? when u will stop with this old nazi shit?
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Your wish.
I hope that world never forget about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25771307


What was Hitler wrong about? The longer Hitler is dead the more he is proven right. He will go down in history as one of the greatest germans ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26770163


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No, Hitler legalized Abortion in 1933. What's worse, the Catholic Church NEVER excommunicated him . In 2012 we have Joe Biden supporting abortion and contraception and he also has not been excommunicated by Wilmington Bishop Malooly.

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I am the vine; you the branches: he that abideth in me, and I in him, the same beareth much fruit: for without me you can do nothing

Without Christ, Hitler's movement ended in desolation. It is time to clean the rift raft from the Roman Catholic church and go back to Christian roots that promoted a peaceful Christian economy. John Bitch Society, Larouche, Occupy WS, Vatican I and II, etc, etc, are all doomed from the start because they don't have the necessary Christian ingredients.
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Anti-Polish bigotry in America began in the 19th century. Many Protestants hated all Catholics, but especially those who were poor, uneducated, or enslaved in serfdom. (Polish serfs, living under Austrian and Russian rule in the 19th century, were eventually freed from legal serfdom, but were nevertheless left so economically desperate that most could not afford to send their children to school.)
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Did you have Polish serfs in U.S? I am not asking about the past I am asking about the present times. I doubt your ideas, because there were a lot such a people like Poles (from Italy for instance) and they didn't have problems you described here. If I remember compulsory education existed.


In the 20th century, anti-Polish bigotry has come mostly from the Jewish community. Jewish people made up roughly 10% of the Polish population (up until World War II), and often enjoyed mocking the poverty, lack of education, and lack of freedom of the Polish serfs/peasants. Many Jewish people carried this bigotry to America.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8765876



of course it has nothing to do with Poles being lazy drunks who don't like to take responsibility for their children.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8692165


Mind your own beeswax Jude before your compatriots sell your sister or mother to bordello again : [link to en.wikipedia.org]


I can't believe that's allowed on the internet.

It will be taken down soon.
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Third generation Polish American here.

My Grandmother was offended by Polish Jokes, the rest of us thought they were funny as hell, and told them at dinner on Sundays to watch Grandma Jump.

My understanding and belief (first hand observations)is that the American / Polish cultural stress started when three huge waves of Polish immegrants came to the US.

These Poles were did not speak English ("proof they were stupid"), and took jobs at a low wage, forcing some locals out of jobs.

As the Poles learned english, started demanding fair wages, and bought drinks for the Americans, we all became great friends.

It didn't hurt that a massive wave of Irish immegration occured, and the stupid Irish took our jobs! Those no good non English speaking immegrants swilling Whiskey & taking our jobs!

Polish and Irish began to fit into US culture in about a generation.

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btw. Where where Lithuanians in 1980 and 1981?
They were impatiently waiting with other Soviet troops near Polish border.

It's also difficult to tell where were they in 1920 during the Polish Soviet war.
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In 80s there were demonstrations you know nothing about.

It is extremely easy to tell where were Lithuanians in 1920 as there is no border with Soviets.
However it is not hard to tell where were Polish when we defeated Soviets in 1919 near Zarasai, they immediately attacked Lithuania.
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btw. Where where Lithuanians in 1980 and 1981?
They were impatiently waiting with other Soviet troops near Polish border.

It's also difficult to tell where were they in 1920 during the Polish Soviet war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26775108


In 80s there were demonstrations you know nothing about.

It is extremely easy to tell where were Lithuanians in 1920 as there is no border with Soviets.
However it is not hard to tell where were Polish when we defeated Soviets in 1919 near Zarasai, they immediately attacked Lithuania.
 Quoting: EMPerror


Yes they were demonstrations in Lithuania after Polish June 1989. If not Polish victories there would not have been free Lithuania, before ww2 and probably now.
btw. Battle of Zarasai , any links ?
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as long as your white people wont care where your from. as long as you not black or mexican.
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btw. Where where Lithuanians in 1980 and 1981?
They were impatiently waiting with other Soviet troops near Polish border.

It's also difficult to tell where were they in 1920 during the Polish Soviet war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26775108


In 80s there were demonstrations you know nothing about.

It is extremely easy to tell where were Lithuanians in 1920 as there is no border with Soviets.
However it is not hard to tell where were Polish when we defeated Soviets in 1919 near Zarasai, they immediately attacked Lithuania.
 Quoting: EMPerror


Yes they were demonstrations in Lithuania after Polish June 1989. If not Polish victories there would not have been free Lithuania, before ww2 and probably now.
btw. Battle of Zarasai , any links ?
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It just tells that you don't know anything that happened here.

There are numerous books.
Translation: "During sunrise of freedom: battles for Lithuanian freedom against Bolsheviks in Zarasai land, 1919 june-august".
[link to books.google.lt]

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