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Are we seeing the beginning of movement by thought as a scientific possibility?

 
John Goz
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Are we seeing the beginning of movement by thought as a scientific possibility?
I’ve always thought of heaven on earth meaning the freedom from our physical bodies and the creation of a being that can move and exist by thought alone.

“Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as in heaven”, this we were asked to pray above all prayers. Would it not come if we were asked to pray?

Now with the scientific community many things have happened and are happening that are leading us towards a world were this may be possible. Are we ready for it?

First quantum locality proves that a particle can be in two or places at once.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Perhaps the out of body experience is a thing we are waking to.

Second Dan Winter is proposing dna can carry the same effects. Emotions can be transported over space instantaneously.

[link to www.youtube.com]



Third science has also proposed that the self can be relocated to other bodies.

[link to www.gizmag.com]



Now put the three together. Can the self be in tow or more places at once? If it is possible would we not then be able to move by thought.



I know this idea will be loudly attacked but I’m talking about possibility. Remember we were told to pray for this above all things.



Maybe it’s coming.



Enter the twilight zone.



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I think the self exists at different levels, as above so below. We just have to learn to reconnect to our higher being that we, imo, detached ourselves from above to live out this existence as a physical/personality/ego self, below.
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I think the self exists at different levels, as above so below. We just have to learn to reconnect to our higher being that we, imo, detached ourselves from above to live out this existence as a physical/personality/ego self, below.
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This connection between states of existence is being proven.

Cool!!
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Perhaps one day soon we will fly just like those early dreams.
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We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies.
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Thought is that fire which drives the vehicle.

In fact, you, yourselves, are the light of thought.

We have been staring at the cave wall far too long.
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When the Kingdom IS

cheer
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

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Everything is energy

what keeps the body ticking is energy

that energy is of the same sustance as the Creative Energy that formed matter

cheer

Last Edited by wildhoney on 01/12/2012 09:06 AM
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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it doesnt merely sustain life..ite creates life..its doesnt merely sustain matter ..it transforms it

the higher the purity of the spirit the more maleable is the energy
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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it doesnt merely sustain life..ite creates life..its doesnt merely sustain matter ..it transforms it

the higher the purity of the spirit the more maleable is the energy
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Thanks for sharing.
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John, I get where your "going" with this and the manifestation of the reality of what is possible. The missing link is the ability to "talk" to ourselves on a molecular level (weird sense of deja vu right now...) and cause action with intent. I think the Pineal Gland is a key and that it can take our "thoughts" and process them through a "dimensional lens" which then sends the information with energy "somewhere." Many "mysteries" associated with the pine cone shaped gland in the very middle of the brain.

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This is very interesting to ponder and see where they go with it. Many previously laughable, or laughed at, concepts have come to fruition. We take for granted, today, the technology that helps human kind but at one time these inventions and progress were looked on with great scorn. I think anything is possible but yet to be proved. The important thing is to keep an open mind. As Deepak Chopra once said "the universe is not only stranger than we think but stranger than we can think", or something like that.
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This is very interesting to ponder and see where they go with it. Many previously laughable, or laughed at, concepts have come to fruition. We take for granted, today, the technology that helps human kind but at one time these inventions and progress were looked on with great scorn. I think anything is possible but yet to be proved. The important thing is to keep an open mind. As Deepak Chopra once said "the universe is not only stranger than we think but stranger than we can think", or something like that.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks

True! Did you know that the Pineal Gland has the actual structure of an eye!!! With a lens and nerve etc. By the time we are adults, it is calcified but there are metaphysical solutions to de-calcify it and activate our "third eye."

Think about the significant symbol of the pine cone and the third eye in so many mystical and illuminati concepts. They have to be inter-related and have a very powerful ability.
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This is awesome. Small minded people may laugh. The same type of people that laughed when people said the world was flat. Or the world was the center of the universe.
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If you dream it is possible in the infinite.

Now this age is showing that.
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This is very interesting to ponder and see where they go with it. Many previously laughable, or laughed at, concepts have come to fruition. We take for granted, today, the technology that helps human kind but at one time these inventions and progress were looked on with great scorn. I think anything is possible but yet to be proved. The important thing is to keep an open mind. As Deepak Chopra once said "the universe is not only stranger than we think but stranger than we can think", or something like that.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks

True! Did you know that the Pineal Gland has the actual structure of an eye!!! With a lens and nerve etc. By the time we are adults, it is calcified but there are metaphysical solutions to de-calcify it and activate our "third eye."

Think about the significant symbol of the pine cone and the third eye in so many mystical and illuminati concepts. They have to be inter-related and have a very powerful ability.
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


Yes, I could see this as an explanation for second sight possibly? years ago I remember reading about how everything we have today, that is what is available to the public, is consistently a couple decades old and that actual technology known and tested as fact is deliberately kept from the public. Of course there are some secrets that have always been under lock and key. I would imagine brilliant minds like DaVinci and Tesla developed tech that would blow our minds.

No, I didn't know that about the Pineal Gland and thanks for sharing. I'll be looking into that.
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This is very interesting to ponder and see where they go with it. Many previously laughable, or laughed at, concepts have come to fruition. We take for granted, today, the technology that helps human kind but at one time these inventions and progress were looked on with great scorn. I think anything is possible but yet to be proved. The important thing is to keep an open mind. As Deepak Chopra once said "the universe is not only stranger than we think but stranger than we can think", or something like that.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks

True! Did you know that the Pineal Gland has the actual structure of an eye!!! With a lens and nerve etc. By the time we are adults, it is calcified but there are metaphysical solutions to de-calcify it and activate our "third eye."

Think about the significant symbol of the pine cone and the third eye in so many mystical and illuminati concepts. They have to be inter-related and have a very powerful ability.
 Quoting: einsteinsfly


Yes, I could see this as an explanation for second sight possibly? years ago I remember reading about how everything we have today, that is what is available to the public, is consistently a couple decades old and that actual technology known and tested as fact is deliberately kept from the public. Of course there are some secrets that have always been under lock and key. I would imagine brilliant minds like DaVinci and Tesla developed tech that would blow our minds.

No, I didn't know that about the Pineal Gland and thanks for sharing. I'll be looking into that.
 Quoting: ChopinRocks


Bingo, think of how many scientist have been discredited.
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This is a great video celebrating imagination and stretching our physical limits to achieve our spiritual heritage. I hope as a planet, we can accomplish this!



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Hey, just finished watching that video. What a fascinating subject. I'm really curious now. Thanks.
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Interesting theory: If true, I could trade this body for one that has super powers.
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Hey, just finished watching that video. What a fascinating subject. I'm really curious now. Thanks.
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I'm happy that it's sparking your interest! I personally believe this is our "DIVINE SPARK." The elite's ability to control us (humanity as a whole) is based on our ignorance of the power which we have within us and which unites and connects us cosmically. The whole nature of fractal geometry, frequencies etc play key parts as well.hf
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John is curiously piecing together experiments of consciousness, both DNA and water. The ability for the molecules to be separate from one another and be able to mimic the other without time/space restraints indicates that consciousness has it's OWN energy as it is now separated from our bodies. What is the mode of communication? how do we speak to it with intent? I believe that the pineal gland, the seat of our consciousness is the internal drive shaft and that we have to learn to "drive" in order to achieve our divine right as to "WHO" we are and what we're truly capable of. Divided, we fall.....United, we ARE....

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What will it take for us to actually be able to do what we're supposed to do?

Every night of my life, I lay on my bed, trying to figure out ways to break out of my physical body, trying to 'manifest' a light body, to see with my third eye, to FEEL something out there that proves I'm more than this shitbody, to hear my higher self, other entities, the merkaba, the astral plane, all that new age bullshit I read about since years ago, every single night, and I feel NOTHING but some mild tingling in my energy centers or whatever.. I see NOTHING through my 3rd eye, NOTHING.. I feel nothing that makes me think I'm a mystical multi-dimensional being, even though I've convinced myself that I am, for my own sanity.. so far, nothing proves it though, and after a while I started to realize nobody within New Age had achieved this either, all these characters throw around terms and words and mystical esoteric teachings, but there's nothing to prove any of it in any tangible way..

I know I am trapped in an illusion, but I feel like I'm trying to express myself in a language I dont know.. I am simply at a loss when it comes to see through it, I dont know what to think, or what to feel, or what to do, in order to truly break the veil and manipulate the illusion and see the underlying fabric, and transport myself to a better place, and see myself for who I really am, I simply have no motherfucking idea how to do it, and it KILLSSS me.. I just wanna BREAK OUT already!! I know there's gotta be SO MUCH MORE to this fake reality and existence, and all my life I've felt like I'm being shown 5% of it and the rest of it I can't see or feel or touch because I'm trapped in this body, in this dimension, in this illusion... It's like being trapped ina goddamn cage all your life.. with no idea of what the outside world looks like..
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Thought is that fire which drives the vehicle.

In fact, you, yourselves, are the light of thought.

We have been staring at the cave wall far too long.
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Nice post. TY.
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I've experienced it in dreams.

The most interesting thing in the dreams is that not everyone in the world learns how to do this all at once - there is an 'overlap' rather than an instantaneous change. And in the dream, those that knew how, had to keep it secret from those that didn't.

Way cool though! All I did was think about a place and desiring to be there and I was there.
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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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What will it take for us to actually be able to do what we're supposed to do?

Every night of my life, I lay on my bed, trying to figure out ways to break out of my physical body, trying to 'manifest' a light body, to see with my third eye, to FEEL something out there that proves I'm more than this shitbody, to hear my higher self, other entities, the merkaba, the astral plane, all that new age bullshit I read about since years ago, every single night, and I feel NOTHING but some mild tingling in my energy centers or whatever.. I see NOTHING through my 3rd eye, NOTHING.. I feel nothing that makes me think I'm a mystical multi-dimensional being, even though I've convinced myself that I am, for my own sanity.. so far, nothing proves it though, and after a while I started to realize nobody within New Age had achieved this either, all these characters throw around terms and words and mystical esoteric teachings, but there's nothing to prove any of it in any tangible way..

I know I am trapped in an illusion, but I feel like I'm trying to express myself in a language I dont know.. I am simply at a loss when it comes to see through it, I dont know what to think, or what to feel, or what to do, in order to truly break the veil and manipulate the illusion and see the underlying fabric, and transport myself to a better place, and see myself for who I really am, I simply have no motherfucking idea how to do it, and it KILLSSS me.. I just wanna BREAK OUT already!! I know there's gotta be SO MUCH MORE to this fake reality and existence, and all my life I've felt like I'm being shown 5% of it and the rest of it I can't see or feel or touch because I'm trapped in this body, in this dimension, in this illusion... It's like being trapped ina goddamn cage all your life.. with no idea of what the outside world looks like..
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We are all Neo in the Matrix. Unfortunately, no one is handing us a red pill or a blue pill in order to be welcomed into the "real world." The knowledge is within us but we are kept very busy in order to not "discover" our true selves. Not only that, we are intentionally infected with flouride to calcify the pineal gland !! All I know for sure is that LOVE and the emotional intent behind loving thoughts are the power behind all that is possible.
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I've experienced it in dreams.

The most interesting thing in the dreams is that not everyone in the world learns how to do this all at once - there is an 'overlap' rather than an instantaneous change. And in the dream, those that knew how, had to keep it secret from those that didn't.

Way cool though! All I did was think about a place and desiring to be there and I was there.
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It's what we call 'death'..Really just going back home..
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I've experienced it in dreams.

The most interesting thing in the dreams is that not everyone in the world learns how to do this all at once - there is an 'overlap' rather than an instantaneous change. And in the dream, those that knew how, had to keep it secret from those that didn't.

Way cool though! All I did was think about a place and desiring to be there and I was there.
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Those who find peace and balance will assend. (Not saying to heaven) but now on this earth.
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I AGREE WITH YOU OP I THINK THE KEY IS LEARNING TO USE OUR SUBCONCIOUS MIND


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