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Are we seeing the beginning of movement by thought as a scientific possibility?

 
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Yesterday something moved me to download some course of miracles material.

Surprised me as I just need to hear the christian terms heaven and earth and such and i go into instant recoil.

This moring I am lying in the garden under the almost ready to deliver pecan nut trees and I am listening to this really beautiful voice talking the exact same thing that you are.
In one morning this meme approaches from two different directions.

[link to www.themiracletimes.com]
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What will it take for us to actually be able to do what we're supposed to do?

Every night of my life, I lay on my bed, trying to figure out ways to break out of my physical body, trying to 'manifest' a light body, to see with my third eye, to FEEL something out there that proves I'm more than this shitbody, to hear my higher self, other entities, the merkaba, the astral plane, all that new age bullshit I read about since years ago, every single night, and I feel NOTHING but some mild tingling in my energy centers or whatever.. I see NOTHING through my 3rd eye, NOTHING.. I feel nothing that makes me think I'm a mystical multi-dimensional being, even though I've convinced myself that I am, for my own sanity.. so far, nothing proves it though, and after a while I started to realize nobody within New Age had achieved this either, all these characters throw around terms and words and mystical esoteric teachings, but there's nothing to prove any of it in any tangible way..

I know I am trapped in an illusion, but I feel like I'm trying to express myself in a language I dont know.. I am simply at a loss when it comes to see through it, I dont know what to think, or what to feel, or what to do, in order to truly break the veil and manipulate the illusion and see the underlying fabric, and transport myself to a better place, and see myself for who I really am, I simply have no motherfucking idea how to do it, and it KILLSSS me.. I just wanna BREAK OUT already!! I know there's gotta be SO MUCH MORE to this fake reality and existence, and all my life I've felt like I'm being shown 5% of it and the rest of it I can't see or feel or touch because I'm trapped in this body, in this dimension, in this illusion... It's like being trapped ina goddamn cage all your life.. with no idea of what the outside world looks like..
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What a great post. The only way to see is not to think. That is why a lot focus on breathing, it helps you 'not think' then the truths do come.
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What will it take for us to actually be able to do what we're supposed to do?

Every night of my life, I lay on my bed, trying to figure out ways to break out of my physical body, trying to 'manifest' a light body, to see with my third eye, to FEEL something out there that proves I'm more than this shitbody, to hear my higher self, other entities, the merkaba, the astral plane, all that new age bullshit I read about since years ago, every single night, and I feel NOTHING but some mild tingling in my energy centers or whatever.. I see NOTHING through my 3rd eye, NOTHING.. I feel nothing that makes me think I'm a mystical multi-dimensional being, even though I've convinced myself that I am, for my own sanity.. so far, nothing proves it though, and after a while I started to realize nobody within New Age had achieved this either, all these characters throw around terms and words and mystical esoteric teachings, but there's nothing to prove any of it in any tangible way..

I know I am trapped in an illusion, but I feel like I'm trying to express myself in a language I dont know.. I am simply at a loss when it comes to see through it, I dont know what to think, or what to feel, or what to do, in order to truly break the veil and manipulate the illusion and see the underlying fabric, and transport myself to a better place, and see myself for who I really am, I simply have no motherfucking idea how to do it, and it KILLSSS me.. I just wanna BREAK OUT already!! I know there's gotta be SO MUCH MORE to this fake reality and existence, and all my life I've felt like I'm being shown 5% of it and the rest of it I can't see or feel or touch because I'm trapped in this body, in this dimension, in this illusion... It's like being trapped ina goddamn cage all your life.. with no idea of what the outside world looks like..
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What a great post. The only way to see is not to think. That is why a lot focus on breathing, it helps you 'not think' then the truths do come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1408355


Yes, very nice post...I think most people who are waking up start feeling this way.

The only way my friend to get out of this "trap" is to own it. To love it. To live every minute..no matter how mundane, torturous, or boring it is... consciously.

When you can be in this life fully conscious and no longer strive to break free of anything...then life gets interesting.
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
~Calvin & Hobbs~
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read the comment section (commenter '0,1):

[link to steelonwheels.uservoice.com]
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read the comment section (commenter '0,1):

[link to steelonwheels.uservoice.com]
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if you get through it all i promise you it will give you answers
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read the comment section (commenter '0,1):

[link to steelonwheels.uservoice.com]
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Very nice. What is this discussion forum?
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heres your answer.sherlock
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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I think the self exists at different levels, as above so below. We just have to learn to reconnect to our higher being that we, imo, detached ourselves from above to live out this existence as a physical/personality/ego self, below.
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This connection between states of existence is being proven.

Cool!!
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It would explain deja vu right? How could we KNOW what's to come if we haven't been there???
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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read the comment section (commenter '0,1):

[link to steelonwheels.uservoice.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11685129


Very nice. What is this discussion forum?
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it has to do with politics and a new form of government, but its really the comments that I posted on this link under the username 0,1 that have to do with what you are talking about.

the last two comments should be read first, then from first to last.

here:

math proof of God (the website):

[link to onision.net]

Thread: ARKURA THE INTERDIMENSIONAL BEING WILL NOW REVEAL "SOME" MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE!! (I didnt write this and it is badly written--but for some reason it activates certain things in your subconscious, it did for me)

0,1 commented · March 13, 2012
sphere, inception - how the mind alters reality and the way a singularity is an infinite perspective painting (like those paintings that can be seen many different ways--the boat--but in this case, its an infinite perspective, so it just 'reflects' back the mind). The others have to do with the nature of information and the dangers of making assumptions based on knowledge or what we assume to be knowledge.

-As we gain more knowledge of biology, for example, our ability to control it increases. Reality at its core though is just self justifying information so if you take this to its conclusion we will be able to (perhaps in our mind) manipulate reality like a computer program. Any fixed set of rules has loopholes from a higher semantic perspective such as our minds so we will be able to 'crack' the simpler 'keygen' that is the physical reality. This also follows from information theory and game theory, as we gain more knowledge of any game, the optimum strategy or the opponent, we 'merge' with the system and it becomes meaningless to play (we become part of the grid-- tron, or we know the optimum strategy so its pointless, such as tic tac toe))similarly, it will be pointless to 'extract' energy for our civilization once we gain access to this source code because by manipulating small discrepancies in the planck (what we currently perceive as entropy)we would gain control of the macro the way small pertubations in weather over time can have huge effects on the macro of planetary weather, as per chaos theory ('a butterfly moving its wings in brazil cause a tornado in texas') .

the omega point (I don't agree with frank tipler's perspective, I think reality itself is information so computers are not imperative for us to reach it, but its an interesting video nonetheless)

[link to www.youtube.com]

we are more complex than the physical universe but there are 'higher' intellects that are even more semantically complex than us.*

those two...and then from first to last of the 0,1 comments.
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ive replied to your posts before

here is the 'old' link about my math proof of god that I sent you (the onision website is a shorter version--easier to read):
Thread: END OF OLD WORLD DOCUMENT, 2012, mathematical proof of gods existance
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i havnt made a video because of health issues but I think it would be beneficial...
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I think all of it is true but only for adepts. Some of it may be true for some people some of the time.
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John, I get where your "going" with this and the manifestation of the reality of what is possible. The missing link is the ability to "talk" to ourselves on a molecular level (weird sense of deja vu right now...) and cause action with intent. I think the Pineal Gland is a key and that it can take our "thoughts" and process them through a "dimensional lens" which then sends the information with energy "somewhere." Many "mysteries" associated with the pine cone shaped gland in the very middle of the brain.
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De Ja Vu, is what was called the presence of God in the bible. I have used this gland to move an object once before. It is an amazing feeling. The above is the truth. To move an object you must simultaneously alter God slightly therefore you need his aproval to have these gifts, as God is everything, past, present and future. This gland powers up the pathways Jesus puts in your mind (doorways), it is also what they call 'The power of God' in the bible.
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<Third science has also proposed that the self can be relocated to other bodies.

[link to www.gizmag.com] >

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you are already moving by thought, you have to think to move, rite?
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The idea of it is fantastic. I predict that people with evil intention will be taken off this planet though. I see a terrifying place, if they aren't.

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speaking of prediction

yesterdays 7.4 quake was predicted :


[link to seismo.info]


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


And the guy was harrased by American govermnent and they stole his patents!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is some new science!!


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I don't contribute much credence myself to these types of ideas, as I think it is not up to man to create with thought or emotion to that extent. I do believe in some aspects in the power of the mind, which I've seen myself, and also the power of supernatural entities being mistaken for one's own powers.

I do find this subject a timely one, though, as I did actually ponder this concept for a moment when I considered yesterday's big quake in Mexico. It coincided much too closely (almost exactly) with the drill they were prepping for at that moment. Made me think of this premise - all those people thinking at that time about a big quake, and then it happening. But then, I have heard so much about quake weapon technologies, that it's hard to attribute it offhand to something so mystical as caused by thoughts and fears of the population, really. If that were so, many more quakes should coincide with the widespread public drills, but don't.
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If we take aside all the transhumanist crap this implicates... movement of though is (was) always possible... we do it every day... when you think of a tropical island in the sun, you ARE there, speed of thought is the fastest speed there is (known to me)... while a lihtbaem travels at mere 300 000 km/s, i was by thought, in the center of the galaxy and back to earth in mere seconds...
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I think the self exists at different levels, as above so below. We just have to learn to reconnect to our higher being that we, imo, detached ourselves from above to live out this existence as a physical/personality/ego self, below.
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yes, when i was awakened in 2008 in my sleep the next day i was who i really was...my thoughts were different..


night and day difference...


more to know/remember:)
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No secrets involved, it's all covered in a free book, ya can get nearly anywhere.

It's a Make Believe World, always has been.

First ya believe it, then ya make it.

The airplane does not make us fly, it is belief that makes us fly. The airplane is just a prop. It is an object on the stage, in a make believe world. It brings us confidence, it reassures us that we can fly. No other teaches us how to fly, for we already know. What our flight instructor teaches us is to believe we can fly. If we did not believe we could fly the airplane would crash as soon as we tried to get off the ground.

As Wilbur Wright likely once said,"Orville, I believe, we can make it fly."

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Yes, yes we are. hf
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