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Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?

 
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Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?
John Paul I (Latin: Ioannes Paulus PP. I, Italian: Giovanni Paolo I), born Albino Luciani, (17 October 1912 – 28 September 1978), reigned as Pope of the Catholic Church and as Sovereign of Vatican City from 26 August 1978 until his death 33 days later. His reign is among the shortest in papal history, resulting in the most recent Year of Three Popes.

John Paul I was found dead sitting up in his bed shortly before dawn on 29 September 1978,[22] just 33 days into his papacy. The Vatican reported that the 65-year-old pope most likely died the previous night of a heart attack. It has been claimed that the Vatican altered some of the details of the discovery of the death to avoid possible unseemliness[23][24] in that he was discovered by Sister Vincenza, a nun.[25]
An autopsy was not performed, as is customary. This, along with inconsistent statements made following the Pope's death, led to a number of conspiracy theories concerning it. These statements relate to who found the Pope's body, the time when he was found, and what papers were in his hand.

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Re: Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?
The Catholic Church did.
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His name... was... Jesuit




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Something very serious happened to the Catholic Church in 1978...

Why they killed Pope John Paul I?

The next Pope, John Paul II, was the first non-Italian Pope since Pope Adrian VI (1522–1523).

The Catholic Church changed course a lot with John Paul II...

Who killed John Paul I?
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Re: Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?
anyone see that episode of Brad Meltzers Decoded about this on the History Channel a few weeks ago?
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anyone see that episode of Brad Meltzers Decoded about this on the History Channel a few weeks ago?
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No...

What the episode said?
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Re: Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?
Prince Bernhard

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Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands has the power to veto the Vatican’s choice of any pope it selects. This may explain the untimely end to Pope John Paul I’s 33-day pontificate. The Prince has veto power because his family, the Habsburgs, are descended directly from the last Roman emperor. (The Habsburg Frederick III was the last emperor to be crowned in Rome; his great-grandson Charles V was the last to be crowned by a pope). This is the civil equivalent of the Pope’s claimed "apostolic succession" from Saint Peter.

Prince Bernhard is leader of the Black Families and he also claims descent from the House of David through the Merovingian dynasty, a claim that was acknowledged to be valid by the Carolingian dynasty that supplanted them, by other monarchs and by the Roman Church of that time. Thus he can truly say that he is "related to Jesus".

Prince Bernhard’s House of Orange had its origins in France. The Habsburgs are related through marriage with the Merovingians, who are said to have descended from the Tribe of Benjamin who went into exile following war with the other eleven Tribes - see Judges chapter 21.

Exile took them to Arcadia in the central Peloponnese, Greece.

Here they aligned with the Arcadian royal line and towards the advent of the Christian era, migrated up the Danube and Rhine, through marriage engendering the Sicambrian Franks - the immediate forebears of the Merovingians, who were ultimately of Semitic origin, and descendants of King Saul.

They are identified with the Spartans, and both books of Maccabees link the Spartans with the jewish people. I Maccabees 12 tells of Jonathan sending a letter to the Lacedemonians (Spartan Greeks) asking for their help, since they were brethren. The Spartans replied,
"It is found in writing, that the Lacedemonians and jewish people are brethren and that they are of the stock of Abraham" (verse 21).
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



Hmmmm....
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The change of course of the Catholic Church with John Paul II was visible...

The Church became very different of how it was with John XXIII and Paul VI...

One has to wonder what really happened in 1978...
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What if I told you that the Vatican--seat of the Catholic Church--may be responsible for the murder of one of its own popes? Pope John Paul the First was in office just thirty-three days before he was found dead of mysterious causes and whisked away by Vatican officials with no investigation. Decoded travels to Rome and learns that the fallen Pope was at the center of a banking scandal involving Freemasons and even Mafia members operating from within the walls of the Vatican. Some even say that the scandal and the murder were foretold in a prophecy delivered by the Virgin Mary (third secret of Fatima) that the Vatican conspired to withhold from its followers. Could Pope John Paul the First, who vowed to reform corruption in the Vatican, have been murdered by the criminals he vowed to expose?

[link to www.history.com]
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He was going after the high ranking Masons in control at the Vatican. The Vatican, the Masons and the Mafia all working together to launder money and drugs for the Vatican bank! So much corruption going on....
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The Church was very progressive during the reigns of John XXIII and Paul VI...

Then they killed John Paul I, and they put John Paul II there, and John Paul II changed the course of the Church, reverting the progressive path...

Very strange...
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Re: Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?
Maybe it's all related to Peter, the Roman...

Who knows...
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Re: Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?
how sad anyway he was for kids i think but others seemed to not care and if you would care more it would realy change for the better i think ?

man what if it was someone else.


what if a few got removed while they wanted to have fun together on a planet.
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The book is called "Faith of our Fathers". It goes into the Vatican bank corruption and the Pope's decision to investigate certain irregularities. There were other deaths as well; i remember something about a priest hanging from a bridge. There was something in his pocket, i dont know, it was years ago. But it's in the book.
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Re: Who killed Pope John Paul I in 1978?
3 Authors to read:

1. Malachi Martin- Windswept House
Alleges a Russian Metropolitan was the hand

2. Abbe de Nantes

Alleges Cardinal Villot was the hand

3. Nicky Eltz - Get me out of here. A Cardinal in Purgatory told the seer that he is in Purgatory till the end of time due to plotting the in murder of 4 Popes.



Abbe de Nantes is very astute
ie.The Murder of Pope John Paul I and the IOR/Vatican Bank

A study by the Abbé de Nantes
October 1984
[link to www.crc-internet.org]
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That 33 # again,???
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The book is called "Faith of our Fathers". It goes into the Vatican bank corruption and the Pope's decision to investigate certain irregularities. There were other deaths as well; i remember something about a priest hanging from a bridge. There was something in his pocket, i dont know, it was years ago. But it's in the book.
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No, it is Yallops book, "In God's Name"and it wasn't a priest, Calvi. It was clearly a Masonic Murder sending a message in the heart of London, rocks in the pocket, hanging off the bridge

"As we know, on 17th June 1982 «the body of Roberto Calvi was found hanging under Blackfriars Bridge in the City of London». His accounts showed «a 1.3 billion dollar hole», the equivalent of the first instalment of aid he had asked Marcinkus for, but which was not forthcoming. «Hours before Calvi died, his secretary in Milan, Graziella Corrocher, was “suicided” from a fourth floor window at the Banco Ambrosiano headquarters.»
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Maybe it's all related to Peter, the Roman...

Who knows...
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He is now a Cardinal

(time approaches we are getting closer)
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He is now a Cardinal

(time approaches we are getting closer)
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Which Cardinal.

You want to tell us! :)
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I want to know that too!

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He is now a Cardinal

(time approaches we are getting closer)
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Which Cardinal.

You want to tell us! :)
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Imo, Milan

Presently not that urgent, we still have to go through the AC first.

Someone is coming soon who will help the Church immensely says Pedro Regis. He will do a lot, but will be assisin. by the Illuminati. Imo, it is a layman he should be showing soon.
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Maybe it's all related to Peter, the Roman...

Who knows...
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He is now a Cardinal

(time approaches we are getting closer)
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Which one?

Francis Arinze

Cardinal Peter Turkson

Cardinal Angelo Scola

Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga

Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco

Cardinal Tarcisco Bertone

Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Leonardo Sandri

Claudio Hummes

Dionigi Tettamanzi

Count Christoph Von Schoenborn

Archbishop Raymond Burke

Cardinal Marc Ouellet

Daniel DiNardo

Cardinal William Levada

Archbishop Piero Marini

Keith O'Brien

Gianfranco Ravasi
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Tettamanzi!
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OYE, On June 28, Pope Benedict XVI named the 69-year-old Patriarch of Venice, Cardinal Angelo Scola, as the new Archbishop of Milan.

He fits all the criteria

Look dude, other things we should be more occupied. All the crap going on now is to set the stage for the AC.

Pedro Regis said he will have 3 names and cause great confusion in the Church and from the Southern Hemisphere.

Brazil, Benedict is saving the Church, he was handed a mess and is doing an ok job. Majority of Confereneces of Bishops are not even Catholic, it is that bad.
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Maybe it's all related to Peter, the Roman...

Who knows...
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He is now a Cardinal

(time approaches we are getting closer)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7345875


Which one?

Francis Arinze

Cardinal Peter Turkson

Cardinal Angelo Scola

Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga

Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco

Cardinal Tarcisco Bertone

Jorge Mario Bergoglio

Leonardo Sandri

Claudio Hummes

Dionigi Tettamanzi

Count Christoph Von Schoenborn

Archbishop Raymond Burke

Cardinal Marc Ouellet

Daniel DiNardo

Cardinal William Levada

Archbishop Piero Marini

Keith O'Brien

Gianfranco Ravasi
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Tettamanzi!
banana2
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mmmhf Not bad
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OYE, On June 28, Pope Benedict XVI named the 69-year-old Patriarch of Venice, Cardinal Angelo Scola, as the new Archbishop of Milan.

He fits all the criteria

Look dude, other things we should be more occupied. All the crap going on now is to set the stage for the AC.

Pedro Regis said he will have 3 names and cause great confusion in the Church and from the Southern Hemisphere.

Brazil, Benedict is saving the Church, he was handed a mess and is doing an ok job. Majority of Confereneces of Bishops are not even Catholic, it is that bad.
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What do the bankers want?

Isn't there a disconnect between those who worship GOD and those who worship money?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


They want the Anti Christ and global tyranny, One World govt ware we are all chipped. This is anti-God, money was/is just a means for Control.
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What if I told you that the Vatican--seat of the Catholic Church--may be responsible for the murder of one of its own popes? Pope John Paul the First was in office just thirty-three days before he was found dead of mysterious causes and whisked away by Vatican officials with no investigation. Decoded travels to Rome and learns that the fallen Pope was at the center of a banking scandal involving Freemasons and even Mafia members operating from within the walls of the Vatican. Some even say that the scandal and the murder were foretold in a prophecy delivered by the Virgin Mary (third secret of Fatima) that the Vatican conspired to withhold from its followers. Could Pope John Paul the First, who vowed to reform corruption in the Vatican, have been murdered by the criminals he vowed to expose?

[link to www.history.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 870032

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"Pope John Paul I [Albino Luciani] had ordered an investigation into the Vatican Banks Branco Ambrosiani and specifically into the methods employed by the president of the Vatican Bank, Paul Marcinkus. He was very concerned about what the power of money had done to people in the Latin American nations, and throughout most of the world. He was also very concerned about the close association between the Roman Catholic Church and the CIA.

An organization known as Opus Dei (God's Work) became in part a power with the corrupt P2. Opus Dei was founded by a Spanish priest, Monsignor Josemaria Escriva, in 1928. It is a strong right wing order of the Catholic Church and very wealthy, associates with the rich and powerful, that promotes the theory of wealth over poverty. This organization has, according to its own claims, about 80,000 to 100,000 members around the world. They consist of priests, bishops, cardinals members of the military, a number of dictators, lawyers, and the money elite with substantial wealth.

Luciani was very concerned about Opus Dei and P2 Freemasons. What was their connection with dictators who presided over large Catholic populations. What about General Videla of Argentine whose population was over 90% catholic. Why the death squads? The poverty and the destitution in their own homeland. What about the Marcus clique in the Philippines, with its 43 million Catholics. The self elected Pinochet in Chile with over 80% catholic population. The brutality of General Samoza of Nicaragua with its 90% Catholic population. To the Catholics in El Salvador, were members of the ruling junta considered to be a catholic was to be the enemy. This in a country with 96% catholic population. He feared it was a recipe for genocide. About Ireland and the churches attitude towards the IRA. Many considered that the catholic church had not been honest in its condemnation of the continuing carnage in Northern Ireland. What could Luciani do to restore the Roman Catholic Church as a home for the poor and underprivileged in a country like Uganda in Africa, where Amin was arranging fatal accidents for priests as an almost daily event. Could Luciani prevent a civil war in Lebanon. He fully intended to go there before Christmas, with the hope of bringing peace between Christian and Muslim population's.

By the evening of September 28, 1978 Albino Luciani had taken the first steps towards the realization of his extra ordinary dream. At nine thirty P.M. Albino closed his study door. His dead body would be discovered the next morning."

-Leonard F. Kurtenbach, Dissertation on the First Two Millenniums



"The Opus Dei-P2 alliance went back to the 1940s when [Opus Dei founder Josemaria] Escriva and [P2 Grand Master Licio] Gelli were a part of the Franco regime. Many of their members were officers of both organizations. For example, Jose Mateos was treasurer of both organizations. Many of their business dealings were in unison dealing with the same commodities and the same banks. For this reason, it is logical to conclude Opus Dei was involved in the bank scandal and the murders surrounding it."

-Lucien Gregoire, Murder in the Vatican
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he just sent out a clear request to be killed:

he said: "in the first months of my pontificate (whatever is spelled in english) I will make order on the IOR...the vatican bank"


so basically after that he had the church, all elits, governments and mafias up for killing him

He was a innocent mind...innocent minds cannot win agaisnt evil ones
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