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SAINT LOUIS ~ syncroni ~ €it¥ , Missouri

 
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this is interesting connections Alesiah....the
'bible belt' region is getting hit so hard,in
every way shape and form....
its almost like their ever expanding
'belt' is being torn apart at the 'seems'...
they have grown so fat,
their belly has 'dun-laped' over
their 'buckle', and the 'Weight Watchers'
has determined that they have 'tipped
the scales' with their obese gluttony
and perhaps a little less cake and
trimmings would be good for them, along
with some good old fashioned LiPo-suction...
might dew the trick.....
hope that didn't come out as mean
as i intended.tomato
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this is interesting connections Alesiah....the
'bible belt' region is getting hit so hard,in
every way shape and form....
its almost like their ever expanding
'belt' is being torn apart at the 'seems'...
they have grown so fat,
their belly has 'dun-laped' over
their 'buckle', and the 'Weight Watchers'
has determined that they have 'tipped
the scales' with their obese gluttony
and perhaps a little less cake and
trimmings would be good for them, along
with some good old fashioned LiPo-suction...
might dew the trick.....
hope that didn't come out as mean
as i intended.tomato
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you look like you feel
great
i guess flu has flown herethere
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koolaid
thanks aether! must be all
the Kewl aid i'm drinkin'
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Cincinnati got nothing. Some thunder & rain...

We were saved by Serpent Mound and my prayer.
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Unreal...this supercell is STILL rotating ESE of Cincinnati!
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Thread: Major Tornado Outbreak Underway - High Risk for IN, OH, KY & TN! Meso-Low Forecast for NC & SC Sat. Morning. (Page 24)
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remembering our our cautionary tale:
Thread: SAINT LOUIS ~ syncroni ~ €it¥ , Missouri (Page 16)

what do we think john and his disciples were detecting in the 1830`s when they stood upon the mounds:

Latter Day Saint movement

A similar metaphoric transformation of the term "Zion" occurs in the modern Latter Day Saint movement, originating in the United States in the 1830s. In this interpretation, Zion refers to a specific location to which members of the millennial church are to be gathered together to live. During that time the ancient city of Enoch, also named Zion, that was taken to Heaven will return to the Earth. A Temple is to be built unto the Lord for a sacred work to be performed and for the Lord Jesus Christ to reign when he returns at the Second Coming. Until the gathering of Israel (Gentile and jewish who have accepted Jesus as their savior), when the second coming of Jesus Christ.[clarification needed]

Latter Day Saints also believe Zion to be their location congregations where they gather weekly to renew vows and covenants made to God the Father and to the Son of God.
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remembering enoch was struck by lightening what do we think takes a city "up to heaven" never to be seen again

maybe some spin to this naughty

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03-02-06:41 picture which is about twelve hours later then the videos above..the twister doesn't look quite as massive at it's base but may be taller then ever judging by the video which ends at 06:17 UTC. It's getting more difficult to see on SDO due to the location/angle of it IMO

03-02 0641



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Thread: Twisters on the Sun (Page 3)

we are actively within the domain of the cause of causes

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aether, did you hear about the tornado event in Missouri....I'm going to see if I can help with clean up today or set something up. It's a mess.
I love Branson, what a shame !!!
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yes
become used to feedback as in:
physical events reflecting the topics we write
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Just read every post in this interesting thread and felt compelled to add a few things.

In 1878 a group of so called philanthropists who remain anonymous to this day began a parade that still continues in St. Louis The Veiled Prophet parade. It is obviously a masonic group whatever you wish to make of this.
 Quoting: campinginamerica 4930012


I will tell you a bit about the "Veiled Prophet" and the "Mysterious Order of the Veiled Prophet." The story I have heard is as follows:

The public story is as follows:
After the Civil War wealthy businessmen in St. Louis decided to promote business by enhancing the city's annual "Agricultural and Mechanical Fair" by developing a theme. The theme was based upon the poem by Thomas Moore called "Lalla Rookh" in which the "Veiled Prophet Khorassan" was a trickster. Only in the St. Louis version, the veiled prophet was the "benevolent savior" (i.e., Moshiach). According to the Slayback brothers who were the primary promoters, if St. Louis honored the "Veiled Prophet" who would someday pass through St. Louis, and give his first prophecy, on his travels to bring peace and everlasting happiness to the world, St. Louis would become a prosperous town and someday the Veiled Prophet would return to bestow a blessing upon the city where he would someday perform his first prophecy. The plan was a tremendous success and today St. Louis has an anual parade attended by hundreds of thousands of people lining the streets where they celebrate and honor the Veiled Prophet, whose identity is to remain a secret. That is the public version.

(Yes it is a Masonic group.)
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The public story is as follows:
After the Civil War wealthy businessmen in St. Louis decided to promote business by enhancing the city's annual "Agricultural and Mechanical Fair" by developing a theme. The theme was based upon the poem by Thomas Moore called "Lalla Rookh" in which the "Veiled Prophet Khorassan" was a trickster. Only in the St. Louis version, the veiled prophet was the "benevolent savior" (i.e., Moshiach). According to the Slayback brothers who were the primary promoters, if St. Louis honored the "Veiled Prophet" who would someday pass through St. Louis, and give his first prophecy, on his travels to bring peace and everlasting happiness to the world, St. Louis would become a prosperous town and someday the Veiled Prophet would return to bestow a blessing upon the city where he would someday perform his first prophecy. The plan was a tremendous success and today St. Louis has an anual parade attended by hundreds of thousands of people lining the streets where they celebrate and honor the Veiled Prophet, whose identity is to remain a secret. That is the public version.

(Yes it is a Masonic group.)

Moore's veiled prophet wears a veil because he has the face of a demon. Pretty strange that this St. Louis group of "business men" would pick a veiled demon as the symbol of their parade. Lalla Rookh is really an interesting book of three tales told by a mysterious singer who joins a caravan taking a princess to marry a prince she has never seen. Really a great read and I think it was published about 1878 also.
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Just read every post in this interesting thread and felt compelled to add a few things.

In 1878 a group of so called philanthropists who remain anonymous to this day began a parade that still continues in St. Louis The Veiled Prophet parade. It is obviously a masonic group whatever you wish to make of this.
 Quoting: campinginamerica 4930012


I will tell you a bit about the "Veiled Prophet" and the "Mysterious Order of the Veiled Prophet." The story I have heard is as follows:

The public story is as follows:
After the Civil War wealthy businessmen in St. Louis decided to promote business by enhancing the city's annual "Agricultural and Mechanical Fair" by developing a theme. The theme was based upon the poem by Thomas Moore called "Lalla Rookh" in which the "Veiled Prophet Khorassan" was a trickster. Only in the St. Louis version, the veiled prophet was the "benevolent savior" (i.e., Moshiach). According to the Slayback brothers who were the primary promoters, if St. Louis honored the "Veiled Prophet" who would someday pass through St. Louis, and give his first prophecy, on his travels to bring peace and everlasting happiness to the world, St. Louis would become a prosperous town and someday the Veiled Prophet would return to bestow a blessing upon the city where he would someday perform his first prophecy. The plan was a tremendous success and today St. Louis has an anual parade attended by hundreds of thousands of people lining the streets where they celebrate and honor the Veiled Prophet, whose identity is to remain a secret. That is the public version.

(Yes it is a Masonic group.)
 Quoting: Shalhevet


OML,that is very odd... I haven't heard about that.. thanks for sharing..
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this is interesting connections Alesiah....the
'bible belt' region is getting hit so hard,in
every way shape and form....
its almost like their ever expanding
'belt' is being torn apart at the 'seems'...
they have grown so fat,
their belly has 'dun-laped' over
their 'buckle', and the 'Weight Watchers'
has determined that they have 'tipped
the scales' with their obese gluttony
and perhaps a little less cake and
trimmings would be good for them, along
with some good old fashioned LiPo-suction...
might dew the trick.....
hope that didn't come out as mean
as i intended.tomato
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You'd think they were getting spanked for being gluttons..JK
BTW, I'm skinny..
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Any questions about Mormons, just ask.
I know a lot about them.



Just read this:(don't know if true or not)

"All solid form of the universe was a product of the slowing of the frequency known among Us as Luminamutare (Stability/solid form) as She clashed with Tiamat and Absu (the female and male sides of the Dark or Void)."
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What do you guys think of this?

[link to www.goldenmean.info]

Re-PENT of sinners or Angel of the Whirlwind?
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What do you guys think of this?

[link to www.goldenmean.info]

Re-PENT of sinners or Angel of the Whirlwind?
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dan winter is clever

When Science meets Spirituality : Can you stear a tornado !?! Dan Winter (Part 1)

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What do you guys think of this?

[link to www.goldenmean.info]

Re-PENT of sinners or Angel of the Whirlwind?
 Quoting: peanut 522


dan winter is clever

When Science meets Spirituality : Can you stear a tornado !?! Dan Winter (Part 1)


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According to Dan not if your inside a metal building (iron). No iron used by the ancient builders.

Can you become a tornado?
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According to Dan not if your inside a metal building (iron). No iron used by the ancient builders.

Can you become a tornado?
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well spotted thumbs

can we become a tornado , well ......

All physical existences are weaved in vortical motion; nothing physical in nature is not vortical.
[link to uvs-model.com]
 Quoting: observation


...combining dan`s emphasis of this solar max

The next solar maximum is expected in the 2013-2014 time frame.
 Quoting: nasa


........with alesiah`s discovery of:

Countdown to 8/4/14
 Quoting: alesiah

Thread: "DOOM'S DAY CALENDAR" WITHIN OUR OWN CALENDAR...... (Page 2)

..........we have quite a long time to discover more on the topics

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According to Dan not if your inside a metal building (iron). No iron used by the ancient builders.

Can you become a tornado?
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on that topic, when we look at all ancient structure world wide two things are unmistakable

1) the builders were clever to the point where we today would struggle to reconstruct the scale and complexity of their constructions

2) being that clever and as we know from artifacts , global awareness of metal existed.
the builders, without exception, chose NOT to include metal within their constructions
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According to Dan not if your inside a metal building (iron). No iron used by the ancient builders.

Can you become a tornado?
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on that topic, when we look at all ancient structure world wide two things are unmistakable

1) the builders were clever to the point where we today would struggle to reconstruct the scale and complexity of their constructions

2) being that clever and as we know from artifacts , global awareness of metal existed.
the builders, without exception, chose NOT to include metal within their constructions
 Quoting: aether


thought
i wonder if the hebrews or occult get this bit right ?
anyone know ?

is metal included in the construction of either the temple of jerusalem or the temple of solomon ?

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Did you already see this?

ET Mummy Found In Egypt
[link to www.pakalertpress.com]

As above,so below..the earth?

as above, so bel


Another clue concerning the America's?




Here's something else to think about..
The New Madrid quakes happened same year,
War of 1812..reason for war..Britain wanted to impede trade between USA and France..
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This was going on at the mouth of the Mississippi/Gulf of Mexico ports as well...
Also a mega hurricane event occurred..
[link to rediscover1812.com]

All same year...

Was there earthquake war, weather modification technologies 200 years ago? Same things happened back then as today..

Here again even now..the 2012 Olympics French to be primary language.
[link to www.francejunction.com]

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According to Dan not if your inside a metal building (iron). No iron used by the ancient builders.

Can you become a tornado?
 Quoting: peanut


on that topic, when we look at all ancient structure world wide two things are unmistakable

1) the builders were clever to the point where we today would struggle to reconstruct the scale and complexity of their constructions

2) being that clever and as we know from artifacts , global awareness of metal existed.
the builders, without exception, chose NOT to include metal within their constructions
 Quoting: aether


thought
i wonder if the hebrews or occult get this bit right ?
anyone know ?

is metal included in the construction of either the temple of jerusalem or the temple of solomon ?
 Quoting: aether


I believe some of the classical Greek structures as well as may be some of the Incan buildings used bronze or copper to connect some stones together. The connectors were I shaped about a foot long. The original Jerusalem temple employed Cedar of Lebanon as I recall. The esoteric aspects of Cedar is interesting.
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>>>>>well spotted

>>>>>can we become a tornado , well ......

Maybe we already are tornados and we just don't know it yet.
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The Second Coming by WB YEATS

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight; somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


[link to www.yeatsvision.com]
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Did you already see this?

ET Mummy Found In Egypt
[link to www.pakalertpress.com]

As above,so below..the earth?

:as above, so bel:


Another clue concerning the America's?




Here's something else to think about..
The New Madrid quakes happened same year,
War of 1812..reason for war..Britain wanted to impede trade between USA and France..
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This was going on at the mouth of the Mississippi/Gulf of Mexico ports as well...
Also a mega hurricane event occurred..
[link to rediscover1812.com]

All same year...

Was there earthquake war, weather modification technologies 200 years ago? Same things happened back then as today..

Here again even now..the 2012 Olympics French to be primary language.
[link to www.francejunction.com]
 Quoting: Alesiah


1812 was 23 years after 1789

First US President and Congress seated
French revolution begins while Louis 16 on throne.
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1789----

March 4 – At Federal Hall in New York City, the 1st United States Congress meets and declares the new United States Constitution to be in effect.
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Peanut, so what do you make of all these French connections??

The last king of France was Louis Philippe I, from 1830 to 1848 in what was known as the July Monarchy.
He fled France as a young man and spent 21 years in exile, including considerable time in the United States!!!
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Peanut, so what do you make of all these French connections??

The last king of France was Louis Philippe I, from 1830 to 1848 in what was known as the July Monarchy.
He fled France as a young man and spent 21 years in exile, including considerable time in the United States!!!
 Quoting: Alesiah


i will ruminate on that and see what comes up...... but there were 3 colonial powers involved in north america. France had what was called the first, second and third estate social system for hundreds of years. Basically caste systems with the third being the 99%. The trinity factor seems prominant.
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Peanut, so what do you make of all these French connections??

The last king of France was Louis Philippe I, from 1830 to 1848 in what was known as the July Monarchy.
He fled France as a young man and spent 21 years in exile, including considerable time in the United States!!!
 Quoting: Alesiah


i will ruminate on that and see what comes up...... but there were 3 colonial powers involved in north america. France had what was called the first, second and third estate social system for hundreds of years. Basically caste systems with the third being the 99%. The trinity factor seems prominant.
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Yes, absolutely..
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Peanut, so what do you make of all these French connections??

The last king of France was Louis Philippe I, from 1830 to 1848 in what was known as the July Monarchy.
He fled France as a young man and spent 21 years in exile, including considerable time in the United States!!!
 Quoting: Alesiah


i will ruminate on that and see what comes up...... but there were 3 colonial powers involved in north america. France had what was called the first, second and third estate social system for hundreds of years. Basically caste systems with the third being the 99%. The trinity factor seems prominant.
 Quoting: peanut 898


Yes, absolutely..
 Quoting: Alesiah


Social Classes

Society is still very much divided into the three traditional estates: those who pray (the church), those who fight (the nobility), and those who work (everyone else). The first estate, the church, is the most powerful institution in France after the monarchy. It owns a third of the property and probably collects about 40% of the revenue. Resentment toward the church for its wealth and corruption should come as no surprise, especially as is legally exempt from taxes -- although this does not mean that the clergy were not sometimes persuaded to make a "gift" to the crown during wartime or other fiscal crisis. (Eventually these "gifts" came to be quite customary.)

Francis I established the right of the French crown to award bishoprics and other church benefices to its own candidates, which went a long away towards preventing the formation of a Gallican church along the lines of the Church of England. This also means the average church position was a political job, and the majority of bishops hardly ever visited their own cathedrals. The average village priest was usually a sub-contractor, earning very low wages to care for the flock of the official holder of the benefice (who collected its revenue). Every prominent family made a point of putting a son into a lucrative church position, where they often wielded a great deal of political influence on behalf of the head of house: examples include the Duc de Guise and his brother the Cardinal de Lorraine, Admiral Coligny and his brother the Cardinal de Chatillon, etc. A number of such positions were essentially "hereditary" to certain families. .........
 Quoting: observation

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>>>>>well spotted

>>>>>can we become a tornado , well ......

Maybe we already are tornados and we just don't know it yet.
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keeping that in mind whilst discovering what was in the minds of our more recent ancestors, the hebrews, babylonians and egyptians etc...............

Ningishzida

Ningishzida is the earliest known symbol of snakes twining (some (One Greek myth of origin of the caduceus is part of the story of Tiresias, who found two snakes copulating and killed the female with his staff. ) say [copulation]][who?]) around an axial rod. It predates the Caduceus of Hermes, the Rod of Asclepius and the staff of Moses by more than a millennium.
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: aether


Woah...
 Quoting: ArunaLuna


place yourself in the mind of our ancient ancestors whom still possessed some awareness of what we call electricity

i say some awareness because by the time of moses and people like that, electricity had become the symbol of god and whomever possessed ability to utilize it was considered chosen by god to do so

The spin positions of the Aether in which electrons and protons exist, as well as the electrons and protons themselves, could be described as having a snake-like appearance. We could even describe the electrons as female snakes, and protons as male snakes. A magic wand (conductive metal) placed between the snakes would encourage the two to climb aboard the wand and unite.

Nobody really knows where the caduceus originated, its origin being so far back in time. But we do know that it has been a part of many ancient cultures. We also know that the caduceus was a staff carried by Hermes (also known as Mercury), as he flew across great distances, at great speed, carrying his messages. Isn’t it rather fortuitous that thousands of years ago a mythical god carried messages at great speeds across great distances and holding a staff, which modern science can interpret as electricity? What great luck! It sounds like Hermes could be a modern symbol for radio transmission, or even the World Wide Web.

So is it really a myth? Electricity was known thousands of years ago, and ancient cities of grand proportions are being discovered on land and under sea that hasn’t been above water in over 11,500 years
 Quoting: observation

 Quoting: aether

Thread: BIBLE UNVEILED.. !!!!: The Hidden Story in the Stars. (Page 10)

......all of whom are survivors/ancestors of much older cultures

why did they consider electricity to be the manifestation of god and how did this attitude fit the purpose of surviving structures of their past they lived within but as today, did not possess memory for how these structures functioned or how their own social structures once functioned within them

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Mar 05, 2012

Why are animals used so widely in coats of arms?

The familiar red dragon of Wales and the double-headed eagle of the House of Habsburg exemplify a widespread and familiar practice to embed animal figures in heraldic devices, both in the Old and New Worlds, but few people dwell on the rationale of such a seemingly absurd practice.

The fantastic nature of a double-headed bird, a unicorn or a dragon alone identifies the realm of mythology as the home of such creatures emblazoned on armorial bearings, but what bearing do mythical beings have on aristocratic pedigrees?

Surprisingly, far from being frivolous ornamental touches, the zoological components of inherited family badges often boast longer pedigrees than the families themselves, reaching back into prehistoric times when many a noble lineage laid claim to have descended from some mythical beast.

The ‘mythogenealogies’ of individual lineages are rooted in the more archaic practice of totemism, which once prevailed on every inhabited continent. On this belief system, every clan, tribe or moiety asserted descent from a ‘totem’ believed to have lived in illo tempore. The overwhelming majority of such totems were animals, identified as the ancestral ‘people’ or ‘gods’ alive during the epoch of creation.

Anthropologists have amassed hundreds, perhaps thousands, of traditional reports that ‘animals’ and ‘people’ were identical at the dawn of time – beings possessing magical powers, typically of giant proportions and able to inhabit the heavens as easily as the earth, who were the active forces in the grand myths of a ‘golden age’, cosmic war and disaster, the formation of the earth’s geological features and the foundation of human culture........................

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 Quoting: observation

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