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I think everyone knows the name of the airplane that Charles Linberg flew from newyorke to Paris in 1927 but does anyone know the name of the second plane that Charles Linberg had built for him after he flew the "Spirt of St.Louis" to Paris ? It was commissioned by Lockheed & it was named "model" 8 Sirius !


Lindbergh wanted his new plane to be able to make a nonstop flight across the United States, as well as scout new air routes to China. It was up to Lockheed to invent the technology to meet his needs. Lindbergh’s list of custom touches included a tandem cockpit with dual controls and sliding canopy to accommodate him and his co-pilot—his seven-month’s-pregnant wife, Anne Morrow Lindbergh. The fuselage needed to be big enough to allow for full use of parachutes in case they needed to make a mid-air exit. Room also had to be made for state-of-the-art navigation equipment and a small generator that could power the Lindberghs’ electrically warmed flight suits.
Lockheed chief engineer Gerard Vultee designed the Lockheed 8 Sirius based on Lindbergh’s specifications. Slightly smaller than the Spirit of St. Louis—just shy of 43 feet to the St. Louis’s 46—the Sirius was capable of traveling 185 miles per hour compared to the St. Louis’s top speed of 133 mph. It was delivered in April 1930, and within days Charles and Anne embarked from Los Angeles, arriving in New York City 14 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds later—breaking the previous record by 3 hours.

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I think everyone knows the name of the airplane that Charles Linberg flew from newyorke to Paris in 1927 but does anyone know the name of the second plane that Charles Linberg had built for him after he flew the "Spirt of St.Louis" to Paris ? It was commissioned by Lockheed & it was named "model" 8 Sirius !


Lindbergh wanted his new plane to be able to make a nonstop flight across the United States, as well as scout new air routes to China. It was up to Lockheed to invent the technology to meet his needs. Lindbergh’s list of custom touches included a tandem cockpit with dual controls and sliding canopy to accommodate him and his co-pilot—his seven-month’s-pregnant wife, Anne Morrow Lindbergh. The fuselage needed to be big enough to allow for full use of parachutes in case they needed to make a mid-air exit. Room also had to be made for state-of-the-art navigation equipment and a small generator that could power the Lindberghs’ electrically warmed flight suits.
Lockheed chief engineer Gerard Vultee designed the Lockheed 8 Sirius based on Lindbergh’s specifications. Slightly smaller than the Spirit of St. Louis—just shy of 43 feet to the St. Louis’s 46—the Sirius was capable of traveling 185 miles per hour compared to the St. Louis’s top speed of 133 mph. It was delivered in April 1930, and within days Charles and Anne embarked from Los Angeles, arriving in New York City 14 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds later—breaking the previous record by 3 hours.

[link to www.lockheedmartin.com]
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Now this is strange , I just found a weird story about the famous Charles Lindbergh flight and I wasn't even searching for Charles Lindberg. Here's what I found , I've never heard this story before but apparantly this is a very old story which was told by Lindberg himself-

"During that first solo, non-stop transatlantic flight in 1927, the aviator, flying just above the ocean, was desperately struggling to stay awake. Twenty-two hours into the trip, he became aware of vague forms aboard the Spirit of St. Louis. They offered reassurance and discussed navigational problems."
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So the thread has brought up some interesting concerns about the Midwest and Missouri. We need lots and lots of people to pray for protection for the Mid West and etc. The USA is in a severe drought right now, as you know and expected to continue.

[link to www.stltoday.com]

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

One thing effects another and we will ALL feel the results of this in our pocket book and etc..with food prices for number one...

We are ALL in this together so we better start praying for relief. I don't know the magnitude of it but I know this is going to be negative for everyone.
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I think everyone knows the name of the airplane that Charles Linberg flew from newyorke to Paris in 1927 but does anyone know the name of the second plane that Charles Linberg had built for him after he flew the "Spirt of St.Louis" to Paris ? It was commissioned by Lockheed & it was named "model" 8 Sirius !


Lindbergh wanted his new plane to be able to make a nonstop flight across the United States, as well as scout new air routes to China. It was up to Lockheed to invent the technology to meet his needs. Lindbergh’s list of custom touches included a tandem cockpit with dual controls and sliding canopy to accommodate him and his co-pilot—his seven-month’s-pregnant wife, Anne Morrow Lindbergh. The fuselage needed to be big enough to allow for full use of parachutes in case they needed to make a mid-air exit. Room also had to be made for state-of-the-art navigation equipment and a small generator that could power the Lindberghs’ electrically warmed flight suits.
Lockheed chief engineer Gerard Vultee designed the Lockheed 8 Sirius based on Lindbergh’s specifications. Slightly smaller than the Spirit of St. Louis—just shy of 43 feet to the St. Louis’s 46—the Sirius was capable of traveling 185 miles per hour compared to the St. Louis’s top speed of 133 mph. It was delivered in April 1930, and within days Charles and Anne embarked from Los Angeles, arriving in New York City 14 hours, 45 minutes, and 32 seconds later—breaking the previous record by 3 hours.

[link to www.lockheedmartin.com]
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Now this is strange , I just found a weird story about the famous Charles Lindbergh flight and I wasn't even searching for Charles Lindberg. Here's what I found , I've never heard this story before but apparantly this is a very old story which was told by Lindberg himself-

"During that first solo, non-stop transatlantic flight in 1927, the aviator, flying just above the ocean, was desperately struggling to stay awake. Twenty-two hours into the trip, he became aware of vague forms aboard the Spirit of St. Louis. They offered reassurance and discussed navigational problems."
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from the Wiki:

"Lindbergh's Spirit of St. Louis is one of the best known aircraft in the world due to the transatlantic flight brought fame to Ryan Airlines, the original Ryan company. But, although the names "Ryan" and "Ryan Airlines" appear on the plane, history has overlooked the other name closely intertwined with the legend of "Lucky Lindy" and his Spirit, Benjamin Franklin Mahoney, owner of Ryan Airlines."

"A small, left-facing Indian-style swastika was painted on the inside of the original propeller spinner of the Spirit of St. Louis along with the names of all the Ryan Aircraft Co. employees who designed and built it. It was meant as a message of good luck prior to Lindbergh's solo Atlantic crossing as the symbol was often used as a popular good luck charm with early aviators and others.[N 3] The inside of the original propeller spinner can be viewed at the National Air and Space Museum. This propeller spinner was found to be cracked when Lindbergh arrived at New York prior to his transatlantic flight. The propeller spinner that is on the Spirit of St. Louis now was hastily made in New York to replace the cracked original and was on the plane during the transatlantic flight."
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and:

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See also Ó Riain, Rían
Look up Ryan in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
Ryan is a given name in English. It originates from the surname Ryan, which is an Anglicised form of the Irish Ó Riain.[1] While mostly used for boys, Ryan has been used for girls in the United States since the 1970s.
Rían/Ryan means "little king".[2]
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Have a picture of this and his other medals and memorabilia. [link to blogs.riverfronttimes.com]
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Political work is not the theosophical business, because the first deals with selfish and finite things, while the ancient wisdom deals with unselfish and infinite things.
When an adept counsels a political leader as it is testified with Bismarck or Frederick of Prussia, he has no selfish goals, nor does he induce it to his listener.
HPB's actions in India was not motivated from getting political control, but from compassionate protection for the victims and prevent the Jesuits from destroying too much of her culture.

I read ML 81, but do not understand what do you mean in that connection. Please clarify. Enforcing patriotism in the definition of the great ones is not making politics in the close sense.
As far as I understand the masters want a healthy patriotism in the nations which is culture work and uplifting the own nation to spiritual hights and knowledge of being part of a hierarchy or to be part of a symphony.
I think this is exactly what Edward Bellamy's nationalist clubs in the USA had in mind, which were run in the main by theosophists, including Katherine Tingley, and Charles Lindbergh or the founding fathers themselves. This idea was also at one time promoted in Germany, but I do not want to go into details now.

Today this idea seems complete forgotten and and the Illuminati world republic, the Marxist world revolution and one world globalism with egalitarianism is promoted as a false flag operation to solve the spiritual world crisis.

Image, what could be done today, if there would exist an international group of patriots and truth seekers HPB dreamed of. Instead of helping the lomesome soldiers of the white side, the theosophical movement lies in coma, mentally and spiritually. Not even a healthy outer organization with trustworthy leaders (hi mkr, how are you?). Seems, not even a Headquarter of the original TS exists today. The TM is still divided because of the astral traveller with his bishop costume. What good work could be done and what evils could be prevented if the theosophists would have one united body, all standing behind a spiritual leader, ready to fight against the forces of ignorance and evil! Time is running out!
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Lindbergh kidnapping

The kidnapping of Charles Augustus Lindbergh, Jr., the son of famed aviator Charles Lindbergh and Anne Morrow Lindbergh, was one of the most highly publicized crimes of the 20th century. Lindbergh claimed his 20-month-old toddler was abducted from his family home in East Amwell, New Jersey, near the town of Hopewell, New Jersey, on the evening of March 1, 1932. Over two months later, on May 12, 1932, his body was discovered a short distance from the Lindberghs' home. A medical examination determined that the cause of death was a massive skull fracture..
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the politics of.....?
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Charles Lindbergh attending Nazi party in Berlin - 1935
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hey alesiah , organic springs to mind as you may see from today

using parts of your post fancy

Was reading about Atlantis and what Cayce had to say. Was interesting!

That the Atlanteans dispersed in all directions where they became a colony of mound-dwellers.

Bimini is where he says we will see a part of Atlantis arise.
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edgar joined us a few months ago and is most helpful

Before this the entity was in the land of the present nativity, especially in that period of the Mound Builders - a little farther to the west; when there was the laying out of the plans for those interpretations that had been a consciousness in another organization or group to which the entity had previously belong or been a part......................
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the entity cayce is talking about is the same entity/archetype bowman met throughout his thread.....

so we are both talking to the same archetype
hope you don`t mind because in my experience, some (most) are very emotionally possessive of their intimacy with "their" archetype and that makes it awkward for the archetype

so you know rockon cheer cheer
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Thread: The Contact Thread ~ The Magic Of Our Fractal Reality ~ Wanna Take A Ride? (version 20.13) (Page 23)

i don`t know of bowman`s location through his experiences but mostly likely mound orientated
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this is where your telling takes us fancy

"A great scientific instrument lies sprawled over the entire surface of the globe. At some period - perhaps it was over 4,000 years ago - almost every corner of the world was visited by a group of men who came with a particular task to accomplish. With the help of some remarkable power, by which they could cut and raise enormous blocks of stone , these men erected vast astronomical instruments, circles of erect pillars, pyramids, underground tunnels, cyclopean alignments, whose course from horizon to horizon was marked by stones, mounds, and earthwork."
 Quoting: John Mitchell's "The View Over Atlantis", p69:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

that was written in the 1970`s

following our recent discoveries we know earths weather is driven by what we label the global electric circuit

Global electric circuit implications of combined aircraft storm electric current measurements and satellite-based diurnal lightning statistics
[link to www.agu.org]

electricity arriving into our magnetosphere is transformed into useable volumes to sustain and maintain earths life forming environment
and we have discovered that

"the potential of the global electric circuit varies with the position of the sun
this cannot be due to gravitational forces, as the gravitational force of the moon is far greater than that of the sun

the variation of the electrical potential is an instantaneous effect, it is just like gravity

so it must be due to solar radiation but what kind

and why is it that voltage of the global electric circuit increases so much more when the sun is direct overhead in central america?

is that because that is also an area of high seismic activity ?"
 Quoting: science


because of the synergistic effect of our global electric circuit and earth which, although distributed, is motivated in it`s effect by it`s interaction at it`s most powerful synergistic point, the central american domain
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Thread: X Marks the Spot (Page 18)

and bimini is within the domain of influence where the global electric circuit is most synergistic (influential)

so we know there exists a global infrastructure of linked structures of scale called a scientific instrument
and
we know a global electric circuit exists that could fit the design motive of the global scientific instrument
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is there a ground mechanism? (or ground people?)

Wiki:
"Ground (electricity)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In electrical engineering, ground or earth can refer to the reference point in an electrical circuit from which other voltages are measured, or a common return path for electric current, or a direct physical connection to the Earth.


Electrical circuits may be connected to ground (earth) for several reasons. In mains powered equipment, exposed metal parts are connected to ground to prevent user contact with dangerous voltage if electrical insulation fails. Connections to ground limit the build-up of static electricity when handling flammable products or electrostatic-sensitive devices."
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Lindbergh kidnapping

The kidnapping of Charles Augustus Lindbergh, Jr., the son of famed aviator Charles Lindbergh and Anne Morrow Lindbergh, was one of the most highly publicized crimes of the 20th century. Lindbergh claimed his 20-month-old toddler was abducted from his family home in East Amwell, New Jersey, near the town of Hopewell, New Jersey, on the evening of March 1, 1932. Over two months later, on May 12, 1932, his body was discovered a short distance from the Lindberghs' home. A medical examination determined that the cause of death was a massive skull fracture..
 Quoting: observation

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

the politics of.....?
 Quoting: aether


the coding on the ransom letters was a vesica piscis ( continue thinking on the electrical model and ground)

"In many ancient cultures, the Sun was a male god and the Moon a goddess, and the vesica piscis symbolized an opening or gateway between these two polarities through which creation can take place.[2]"
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So the thread has brought up some interesting concerns about the Midwest and Missouri. We need lots and lots of people to pray for protection for the Mid West and etc. The USA is in a severe drought right now, as you know and expected to continue.hf

[link to www.stltoday.com]

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

One thing effects another and we will ALL feel the results of this in our pocket book and etc..with food prices for number one...

We are ALL in this together so we better start praying for relief. I don't know the magnitude of it but I know this is going to be negative for everyone.
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Thankyou Alesiah , this is so true , maybe that's why this thread was started. Prayers are so powerful. Doesn't anybody else think that it's a bit strange that nothing really really bad had happened yet at the Olympics or in '11 or '10 or '09 ext. I was positive that something big was going to happen by now , in the back of my mind though I pray that it won't and on rare occasions I will sit down and say some kind of prayer to help stop the darkness in this world. I do believe that there may be some kind of huge effect that we can't see happening right under our noses.
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Why is the cross of Loraine important ? There seems to be some kind of link between St.louis & and France or French royalty. Besides the fact that the city is named after a French King. I just found out that , The double-armed Cross of Lorraine appears to incorporate phi, the Golden Ratio, in its structure.
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Can anyone make anything of this ?

One thing that seems to have made the PoS so angry was Louis XIV's decision, carried out by Colbert, to give France a new national Meridian, based on the observatory in Paris, as calculated by the astronomer Cassini. "Le Serpent Rouge" and other "prieure documents" maintain that in fact, France already had a far older N-S meridian known as the "roseline," and that all Colbert and Cassini did was move it to the wrong place. This roseline or "serpent rouge" seems to have run through several hermetic churches in France, including St. Sulpice in Paris, the Lady of the Roses cathedral in Rodez, St. Vincent's in Carcasonne, and the Church of St. Stephen's in Bourges. Most importantly, it also ran through Rennes-les-Bains, whose name itself comes from Rhedae or Rhodos, meaning "roses". A more romantic line used for its time-telling, geomantic, religious significance was replaced with a much more staid line for travel and commerce.

They seem to have been concerned about this, because in the 1750's in St. Sulpice a copper line was drawn in the floor, and a gnomon or meridian marker installed, as if to remind people that it was once a meridian church. The Sulpicians themselves took their name from Sulpicius, a bishop of Bourges in Merovingian times. Curiously, they themselves went on to found the city of Montreal in Canada, and there they erected a Notre Dame cathedral in the 'geomantic' center of the city. Their symbol, two crossed M's, seems to turn up in other "hermetic" contexts. Another group the "PoS" seems to have been involved with during this time, according to the "prieure documents", were the Essene and Cathar-like Camisards, known for their white shirts of purity and holiness.

The Meridian:  Many of the PoS texts deal with the Paris Meridian, and hint that the line created by Colbert, Cassini, and Arago, passing through the Paris Observatory, is really an "impostor" - France already had a "hermetic" or hidden meridian, possibly dating back thousands of years. It seems that the very PoSish site of Saint-Sulpice is on the line of the old meridian or "roseline", as hinted at by Le Serpent Rouge, subtiled Notes on Saint Sulpice and Saint Germain de Pres. By moving the line, Cassini and company threw an ancient system out of whack.

One strange discovery I have found is that a similar episode appears to have occurred in the American capitol of Washington, DC. Apparently, DC was originally designed so that 16th street would be its original north-south meridian -- and this meridian was going to be the "zero meridian" of the United States. After Greenwich was made the international meridian, DC and Paris both renounced their claims. Today,  DC uses Capitol Street as its N-S axis, but certain monuments, especially those in Meridian Hill Park, point to the older axis. On 16th street, one also finds the home of the Scottish Rite Temple and several esoteric churches and monuments.
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Can anyone make anything of this ?

One thing that seems to have made the PoS so angry was Louis XIV's decision, carried out by Colbert, to give France a new national Meridian, based on the observatory in Paris, as calculated by the astronomer Cassini. "Le Serpent Rouge" and other "prieure documents" maintain that in fact, France already had a far older N-S meridian known as the "roseline," and that all Colbert and Cassini did was move it to the wrong place. This roseline or "serpent rouge" seems to have run through several hermetic churches in France, including St. Sulpice in Paris, the Lady of the Roses cathedral in Rodez, St. Vincent's in Carcasonne, and the Church of St. Stephen's in Bourges. Most importantly, it also ran through Rennes-les-Bains, whose name itself comes from Rhedae or Rhodos, meaning "roses". A more romantic line used for its time-telling, geomantic, religious significance was replaced with a much more staid line for travel and commerce.

They seem to have been concerned about this, because in the 1750's in St. Sulpice a copper line was drawn in the floor, and a gnomon or meridian marker installed, as if to remind people that it was once a meridian church. The Sulpicians themselves took their name from Sulpicius, a bishop of Bourges in Merovingian times. Curiously, they themselves went on to found the city of Montreal in Canada, and there they erected a Notre Dame cathedral in the 'geomantic' center of the city. Their symbol, two crossed M's, seems to turn up in other "hermetic" contexts. Another group the "PoS" seems to have been involved with during this time, according to the "prieure documents", were the Essene and Cathar-like Camisards, known for their white shirts of purity and holiness.

The Meridian:  Many of the PoS texts deal with the Paris Meridian, and hint that the line created by Colbert, Cassini, and Arago, passing through the Paris Observatory, is really an "impostor" - France already had a "hermetic" or hidden meridian, possibly dating back thousands of years. It seems that the very PoSish site of Saint-Sulpice is on the line of the old meridian or "roseline", as hinted at by Le Serpent Rouge, subtiled Notes on Saint Sulpice and Saint Germain de Pres. By moving the line, Cassini and company threw an ancient system out of whack.

One strange discovery I have found is that a similar episode appears to have occurred in the American capitol of Washington, DC. Apparently, DC was originally designed so that 16th street would be its original north-south meridian -- and this meridian was going to be the "zero meridian" of the United States. After Greenwich was made the international meridian, DC and Paris both renounced their claims. Today,  DC uses Capitol Street as its N-S axis, but certain monuments, especially those in Meridian Hill Park, point to the older axis. On 16th street, one also finds the home of the Scottish Rite Temple and several esoteric churches and monuments.
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We were discussing something today. Did you notice since the drought, there have been near to no chem-trails in our skys?
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We were discussing something today. Did you notice since the drought, there have been near to no chem-trails in our skys?
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No I haven't but I will start paying more attention. You mean today right ? I watch the sky every night & day but I haven't been outside yet today. Where are you Alesiah? I forgot. They are very heavy and busy in st.lous , almost everyday. It sounds like near by but for some reason I thought you lived somewhere outside of MO or IL?
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This is by far my favorite thread on GLP!

Second favorite is the Jessica Simposn thread , man is that thread important !

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Can anyone make anything of this ?

One thing that seems to have made the PoS so angry was Louis XIV's decision, carried out by Colbert, to give France a new national Meridian, based on the observatory in Paris, as calculated by the astronomer Cassini. "Le Serpent Rouge" and other "prieure documents" maintain that in fact, France already had a far older N-S meridian known as the "roseline," and that all Colbert and Cassini did was move it to the wrong place. This roseline or "serpent rouge" seems to have run through several hermetic churches in France, including St. Sulpice in Paris, the Lady of the Roses cathedral in Rodez, St. Vincent's in Carcasonne, and the Church of St. Stephen's in Bourges. Most importantly, it also ran through Rennes-les-Bains, whose name itself comes from Rhedae or Rhodos, meaning "roses". A more romantic line used for its time-telling, geomantic, religious significance was replaced with a much more staid line for travel and commerce.

They seem to have been concerned about this, because in the 1750's in St. Sulpice a copper line was drawn in the floor, and a gnomon or meridian marker installed, as if to remind people that it was once a meridian church. The Sulpicians themselves took their name from Sulpicius, a bishop of Bourges in Merovingian times. Curiously, they themselves went on to found the city of Montreal in Canada, and there they erected a Notre Dame cathedral in the 'geomantic' center of the city. Their symbol, two crossed M's, seems to turn up in other "hermetic" contexts. Another group the "PoS" seems to have been involved with during this time, according to the "prieure documents", were the Essene and Cathar-like Camisards, known for their white shirts of purity and holiness.

The Meridian:  Many of the PoS texts deal with the Paris Meridian, and hint that the line created by Colbert, Cassini, and Arago, passing through the Paris Observatory, is really an "impostor" - France already had a "hermetic" or hidden meridian, possibly dating back thousands of years. It seems that the very PoSish site of Saint-Sulpice is on the line of the old meridian or "roseline", as hinted at by Le Serpent Rouge, subtiled Notes on Saint Sulpice and Saint Germain de Pres. By moving the line, Cassini and company threw an ancient system out of whack.

One strange discovery I have found is that a similar episode appears to have occurred in the American capitol of Washington, DC. Apparently, DC was originally designed so that 16th street would be its original north-south meridian -- and this meridian was going to be the "zero meridian" of the United States. After Greenwich was made the international meridian, DC and Paris both renounced their claims. Today,  DC uses Capitol Street as its N-S axis, but certain monuments, especially those in Meridian Hill Park, point to the older axis. On 16th street, one also finds the home of the Scottish Rite Temple and several esoteric churches and monuments.
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I read the whole link.
Some random coincidences/synchronicities (?)-

Arcadia-
There is a town in Missouri (Iron Co.) called Arcadia. Founded in 1849. The link says Arcadia was a symbol for paradise in Renaissance Europe, actually a place in Greece. It always seemed odd to me that a bunch of semi-illiterate farmers in MO named their town Arcadia. Was there some oral tradition passed down in their families? (mostly English Protestant settlers who migrated in family groups). Some Freemason connection?

I guess you already know the connection between Jacques de Molay, the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar who was burned at the stake - and the name of the junior branch of Freemasons who are called De Molays.
The female branch of Freemasons is called Eastern Stars and the girls branch is called Job's Daughters. I looked up who Job's daughters were in the Bible and one interesting thing was that they were equal inheritors with their brothers, the usual thing was for sons only to inherit. Connection with the idea that Jesus had a daughter (no sons) who went to France and the Merovingians were her descendents? (I'm not saying I believe this, just that someone believes it, maybe Freemasons and the Priory of Sion).

The symbolism of the blue rose and it's used by many artists and authors - it brought to my mind that Tennessee Williams (from St. Louis) used it in the Glass Menagerie. One of the characters had plurosis and called it blue roses. Was he aware of the blue rose symbolism, or was it an accident?

Main reason I'm very interested in this-

It's now said that the Priory of Sion was a hoax by Plantard. I personally believe it exists. I think it does have something to do with Freemasons,.
Here is my own personal strange little story-

When I was 12 I was reading this book called Devil Water by Anya Seton who wrote historical fiction. The main characters were Charles Radclyffe and his brother James who were both English earls. They fought in the Jacobite rising to put the Catholic James Stuart on the English throne. Charles later fought to put James' son Charles on the throne. Both Charles Radclyffe and his brother were beheaded.
So I was telling my dad who was a Freemason one day that I was reading this book about this man named Charles Radclyffe and he looked shocked and said Charles Radclyffe? Why are you reading a book about him?

So, okay, I asked him how he even knew who he was (because he wasn't into English history) and here's where my memory goes vague - I think he may have said that Radclyffe had something to do with Freemasons and I said no, because he was a Catholic. But, I'm not sure. Maybe that's a false memory. You know, Masons can't talk about their super top secret stuff. LOL

Anyway, all I remember is that he had a mini-freak out that I was reading this book about this guy and that always stayed in my mind for some reason probably because he died shortly after that happened and also because I really liked the book and actually still have a copy. Whatever, it was this little incident I always remembered for years.

So fast forward to the late nineties and I read Holy Blood, Holy Grail which was a mind blower. Then I come to the list of all the Grand Masters of the Priory of Sion and damn, whose name is on there as a Grandmaster in the 1700s but Charles Radclyffe.
If my memory serves, HBHG said that Radclyffe was the founder of Scottish Rite Masonry.

hmmm...well he did try to put a Scottish Stuart on the throne..but why would a Catholic start freemasonry? I've always had the idea that Freemasons were anti-Catholic or maybe just anti-pope. But HBHG said one of the popes (Paul I think) was a secret Freemason. It's all so convoluted. I still don't totally understand how they explained the inter-connections in the book.
So, it's my own little intuition that Priory of Sion actually exists and they really do believe these things. I think my dad knew something about PoS. Also, why would three authors from the BBC get pulled into a hoax? Not very likely.
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One thing that seems to have made the PoS so angry was Louis XIV's decision, carried out by Colbert, to give France a new national Meridian, based on the observatory in Paris, as calculated by the astronomer Cassini. "Le Serpent Rouge" and other "prieure documents" maintain that in fact, France already had a far older N-S meridian known as the "roseline," and that all Colbert and Cassini did was move it to the wrong place. This roseline or "serpent rouge" seems to have run through several hermetic churches in France, including St. Sulpice in Paris, the Lady of the Roses cathedral in Rodez, St. Vincent's in Carcasonne, and the Church of St. Stephen's in Bourges. Most importantly, it also ran through Rennes-les-Bains, whose name itself comes from Rhedae or Rhodos, meaning "roses". A more romantic line used for its time-telling, geomantic, religious significance was replaced with a much more staid line for travel and commerce.

They seem to have been concerned about this, because in the 1750's in St. Sulpice a copper line was drawn in the floor, and a gnomon or meridian marker installed, as if to remind people that it was once a meridian church. The Sulpicians themselves took their name from Sulpicius, a bishop of Bourges in Merovingian times. Curiously, they themselves went on to found the city of Montreal in Canada, and there they erected a Notre Dame cathedral in the 'geomantic' center of the city. Their symbol, two crossed M's, seems to turn up in other "hermetic" contexts. Another group the "PoS" seems to have been involved with during this time, according to the "prieure documents", were the Essene and Cathar-like Camisards, known for their white shirts of purity and holiness.

The Meridian:  Many of the PoS texts deal with the Paris Meridian, and hint that the line created by Colbert, Cassini, and Arago, passing through the Paris Observatory, is really an "impostor" - France already had a "hermetic" or hidden meridian, possibly dating back thousands of years. It seems that the very PoSish site of Saint-Sulpice is on the line of the old meridian or "roseline", as hinted at by Le Serpent Rouge, subtiled Notes on Saint Sulpice and Saint Germain de Pres. By moving the line, Cassini and company threw an ancient system out of whack.

One strange discovery I have found is that a similar episode appears to have occurred in the American capitol of Washington, DC. Apparently, DC was originally designed so that 16th street would be its original north-south meridian -- and this meridian was going to be the "zero meridian" of the United States. After Greenwich was made the international meridian, DC and Paris both renounced their claims. Today,  DC uses Capitol Street as its N-S axis, but certain monuments, especially those in Meridian Hill Park, point to the older axis. On 16th street, one also finds the home of the Scottish Rite Temple and several esoteric churches and monuments.
 Quoting: YOUCITY 10123763


[link to www2.fiu.edu]
 Quoting: YOUCITY 10123763


I read the whole link.
Some random coincidences/synchronicities (?)-

Arcadia-
There is a town in Missouri (Iron Co.) called Arcadia. Founded in 1849. The link says Arcadia was a symbol for paradise in Renaissance Europe, actually a place in Greece. It always seemed odd to me that a bunch of semi-illiterate farmers in MO named their town Arcadia. Was there some oral tradition passed down in their families? (mostly English Protestant settlers who migrated in family groups). Some Freemason connection?

I guess you already know the connection between Jacques de Molay, the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar who was burned at the stake - and the name of the junior branch of Freemasons who are called De Molays.
The female branch of Freemasons is called Eastern Stars and the girls branch is called Job's Daughters. I looked up who Job's daughters were in the Bible and one interesting thing was that they were equal inheritors with their brothers, the usual thing was for sons only to inherit. Connection with the idea that Jesus had a daughter (no sons) who went to France and the Merovingians were her descendents? (I'm not saying I believe this, just that someone believes it, maybe Freemasons and the Priory of Sion).

The symbolism of the blue rose and it's used by many artists and authors - it brought to my mind that Tennessee Williams (from St. Louis) used it in the Glass Menagerie. One of the characters had plurosis and called it blue roses. Was he aware of the blue rose symbolism, or was it an accident?

Main reason I'm very interested in this-

It's now said that the Priory of Sion was a hoax by Plantard. I personally believe it exists. I
think it does have something to do with Freemasons,.
Here is my own personal strange little story-

When I was 12 I was reading this book called Devil Water by Anya Seton who wrote historical fiction. The main characters were Charles Radclyffe and his brother James who were both English earls. They fought in the Jacobite rising to put the Catholic James Stuart on the English throne. Charles later fought to put James' son Charles on the throne. Both Charles Radclyffe and his brother were beheaded.
So I was telling my dad who was a Freemason one day that I was reading this book about this man named Charles Radclyffe and he looked shocked and said Charles Radclyffe? Why are you reading a book about him?

So, okay, I asked him how he even knew who he was (because he wasn't into English history) and here's where my memory goes vague - I think he may have said that Radclyffe had something to do with Freemasons and I said no, because he was a Catholic. But, I'm not sure. Maybe that's a false memory. You know, Masons can't talk about their super top secret stuff. LOL

Anyway, all I remember is that he had a mini-freak out that I was reading this book about this guy and that always stayed in my mind for some reason probably because he died shortly after that happened and also because I really liked the book and actually still have a copy. Whatever, it was this little incident I always remembered for years.

So fast forward to the late nineties and I read Holy Blood, Holy Grail which was a mind blower. Then I come to the list of all the Grand Masters of the Priory of Sion and damn, whose name is on there as a Grandmaster in the 1700s but Charles Radclyffe.
If my memory serves, HBHG said that Radclyffe was the founder of Scottish Rite Masonry.

hmmm...well he did try to put a Scottish Stuart on the throne..but why would a Catholic start freemasonry? I've always had the idea that Freemasons were anti-Catholic or maybe just anti-pope. But HBHG said one of the popes (Paul I think) was a secret Freemason. It's all so convoluted. I still don't totally understand how they explained the inter-connections in the book.
So, it's my own little intuition that Priory of Sion actually exists and they really do believe these things. I think my dad knew something about PoS. Also, why would three authors from the BBC get pulled into a hoax? Not very likely.
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I believe in the Priory as well. Can you explain to me what the deal with the meridians being moved is all about ?

Here's part of my ever changing theory, the Knights Templars are behind most of the stuff going on , all of the major sports franchises are owned by members of the Knights Malta. I believe other very powerful people are also modern day "Knights". I've been saying that the Dark Knight massacre was a Sirius occult ritual planned by the Knights Templars. Part of my theory also believes that there is a good faction of Knights and they would be the True Knights of Templar & the ones doing all this horrible stuff are phonies , just like the kings & queens. So getting back to the good ones , where do you think they ran to after the pope & king of france had them , nearly all executed in 1307? They fled to America , atleast some of them did.

I wonder how many real kings , queens , princes , princes & knights took refuge in America before Columbus ever got near it ?
What do you think about the burrows cave story peanut ?
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Thankyou Alesiah , this is so true , maybe that's why this thread was started. Prayers are so powerful. Doesn't anybody else think that it's a bit strange that nothing really really bad had happened yet at the Olympics or in '11 or '10 or '09 ext. I was positive that something big was going to happen by now , in the back of my mind though I pray that it won't and on rare occasions I will sit down and say some kind of prayer to help stop the darkness in this world. I do believe that there may be some kind of huge effect that we can't see happening right under our noses.
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Wonder what March 21st-22nd will be like? Hoping for a bright sunny day..
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i had not noticed that before tounge

feels nice alien03
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okay

we have made our impression
on human dates in succession


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Thread: "DOOM'S DAY CALENDAR" WITHIN OUR OWN CALENDAR...... (Page 4)

the speed this is being embraced is surprising
but
maybe not , maybe intuitively many have been anticipating

Concerning CERN: Cliff Burgess on the discovery of the Higgs boson
16th july 2012

...........
You can think of the whole picture as an analogy where elementary particles are replaced by fish. Suppose you were interested in the properties of fish and how they move and why some fish move faster than others given the same amount of effort. This would be very hard if you did not understand what water was. In order to understand properly the motion of fish, you must first also understand the environment through which they move.

Now, those who study fish never doubted the existence of water because, unlike the fish, scientists do not live in it. If you were the first to propose that water existed, it might be a harder sell since everyone would take it for granted. The acid test would be to move the water, or to excite a water wave, since that would show that there was something “there” besides just fish. So the radical theoretical proposal is that we are all moving through a medium, and it is the properties of this medium that partially control the behaviour of elementary particles. Again the acid test is to perturb the vacuum and excite a wave in it. This is what the experiments at CERN seem to have done for the very first time..........
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notice the telling is:
we (all that is us) are all moving through a medium and the elementary (smallest) particles (pieces of matter) that form and sustain us (all that physically is ) is partially controlled by the medium we move constantly through
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Sorry I've not been keeping up. I've had a nasty inner ear infection that popped up overnite a few days ago while I was traveling and unable to see a doctor.

Then while reading about Mary Queen of Scots I saw where Francis II, her first husband, died at age 16 (he was born in the year 1544) from an inner ear infection that abscessed.

"The health of the king deteriorated starting in November 1560. On November 16 he suffered a syncope. After only 17 months of reign, Francis II died December 5, 1560 from an ear condition. Multiple diseases have been suggested, such as a mastoiditis, a meningitis, or an otitis become abscess. Ambroise Paré considered performing a trepanning."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

then I saw this-

"Oscar Wilde died as the result of a severe ear infection and not from syphilis, doctors believe."

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Thank God for Amoxicillin ?
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Can anyone make anything of this ?

One thing that seems to have made the PoS so angry was Louis XIV's decision, carried out by Colbert, to give France a new national Meridian, based on the observatory in Paris, as calculated by the astronomer Cassini. "Le Serpent Rouge" and other "prieure documents" maintain that in fact, France already had a far older N-S meridian known as the "roseline," and that all Colbert and Cassini did was move it to the wrong place. This roseline or "serpent rouge" seems to have run through several hermetic churches in France, including St. Sulpice in Paris, the Lady of the Roses cathedral in Rodez, St. Vincent's in Carcasonne, and the Church of St. Stephen's in Bourges. Most importantly, it also ran through Rennes-les-Bains, whose name itself comes from Rhedae or Rhodos, meaning "roses". A more romantic line used for its time-telling, geomantic, religious significance was replaced with a much more staid line for travel and commerce.

They seem to have been concerned about this, because in the 1750's in St. Sulpice a copper line was drawn in the floor, and a gnomon or meridian marker installed, as if to remind people that it was once a meridian church. The Sulpicians themselves took their name from Sulpicius, a bishop of Bourges in Merovingian times. Curiously, they themselves went on to found the city of Montreal in Canada, and there they erected a Notre Dame cathedral in the 'geomantic' center of the city. Their symbol, two crossed M's, seems to turn up in other "hermetic" contexts. Another group the "PoS" seems to have been involved with during this time, according to the "prieure documents", were the Essene and Cathar-like Camisards, known for their white shirts of purity and holiness.

The Meridian:  Many of the PoS texts deal with the Paris Meridian, and hint that the line created by Colbert, Cassini, and Arago, passing through the Paris Observatory, is really an "impostor" - France already had a "hermetic" or hidden meridian, possibly dating back thousands of years. It seems that the very PoSish site of Saint-Sulpice is on the line of the old meridian or "roseline", as hinted at by Le Serpent Rouge, subtiled Notes on Saint Sulpice and Saint Germain de Pres. By moving the line, Cassini and company threw an ancient system out of whack.

One strange discovery I have found is that a similar episode appears to have occurred in the American capitol of Washington, DC. Apparently, DC was originally designed so that 16th street would be its original north-south meridian -- and this meridian was going to be the "zero meridian" of the United States. After Greenwich was made the international meridian, DC and Paris both renounced their claims. Today,  DC uses Capitol Street as its N-S axis, but certain monuments, especially those in Meridian Hill Park, point to the older axis. On 16th street, one also finds the home of the Scottish Rite Temple and several esoteric churches and monuments.
 Quoting: YOUCITY 10123763


[link to www2.fiu.edu]
 Quoting: YOUCITY 10123763


I read the whole link.
Some random coincidences/synchronicities (?)-

Arcadia-
There is a town in Missouri (Iron Co.) called Arcadia. Founded in 1849. The link says Arcadia was a symbol for paradise in Renaissance Europe, actually a place in Greece. It always seemed odd to me that a bunch of semi-illiterate farmers in MO named their town Arcadia. Was there some oral tradition passed down in their families? (mostly English Protestant settlers who migrated in family groups). Some Freemason connection?

I guess you already know the connection between Jacques de Molay, the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar who was burned at the stake - and the name of the junior branch of Freemasons who are called De Molays.
The female branch of Freemasons is called Eastern Stars and the girls branch is called Job's Daughters. I looked up who Job's daughters were in the Bible and one interesting thing was that they were equal inheritors with their brothers, the usual thing was for sons only to inherit. Connection with the idea that Jesus had a daughter (no sons) who went to France and the Merovingians were her descendents? (I'm not saying I believe this, just that someone believes it, maybe Freemasons and the Priory of Sion).

The symbolism of the blue rose and it's used by many artists and authors - it brought to my mind that Tennessee Williams (from St. Louis) used it in the Glass Menagerie. One of the characters had plurosis and called it blue roses. Was he aware of the blue rose symbolism, or was it an accident?

Main reason I'm very interested in this-

It's now said that the Priory of Sion was a hoax by Plantard. I personally believe it exists. I
think it does have something to do with Freemasons,.
Here is my own personal strange little story-

When I was 12 I was reading this book called Devil Water by Anya Seton who wrote historical fiction. The main characters were Charles Radclyffe and his brother James who were both English earls. They fought in the Jacobite rising to put the Catholic James Stuart on the English throne. Charles later fought to put James' son Charles on the throne. Both Charles Radclyffe and his brother were beheaded.
So I was telling my dad who was a Freemason one day that I was reading this book about this man named Charles Radclyffe and he looked shocked and said Charles Radclyffe? Why are you reading a book about him?

So, okay, I asked him how he even knew who he was (because he wasn't into English history) and here's where my memory goes vague - I think he may have said that Radclyffe had something to do with Freemasons and I said no, because he was a Catholic. But, I'm not sure. Maybe that's a false memory. You know, Masons can't talk about their super top secret stuff. LOL

Anyway, all I remember is that he had a mini-freak out that I was reading this book about this guy and that always stayed in my mind for some reason probably because he died shortly after that happened and also because I really liked the book and actually still have a copy. Whatever, it was this little incident I always remembered for years.

So fast forward to the late nineties and I read Holy Blood, Holy Grail which was a mind blower. Then I come to the list of all the Grand Masters of the Priory of Sion and damn, whose name is on there as a Grandmaster in the 1700s but Charles Radclyffe.
If my memory serves, HBHG said that Radclyffe was the founder of Scottish Rite Masonry.

hmmm...well he did try to put a Scottish Stuart on the throne..but why would a Catholic start freemasonry? I've always had the idea that Freemasons were anti-Catholic or maybe just anti-pope. But HBHG said one of the popes (Paul I think) was a secret Freemason. It's all so convoluted. I still don't totally understand how they explained the inter-connections in the book.
So, it's my own little intuition that Priory of Sion actually exists and they really do believe these things. I think my dad knew something about PoS. Also, why would three authors from the BBC get pulled into a hoax? Not very likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382


I believe in the Priory as well. Can you explain to me what the deal with the meridians being moved is all about ?

Here's part of my ever changing theory, the Knights Templars are behind most of the stuff going on , all of the major sports franchises are owned by members of the Knights Malta. I believe other very powerful people are also modern day "Knights". I've been saying that the Dark Knight massacre was a Sirius occult ritual planned by the Knights Templars. Part of my theory also believes that there is a good faction of Knights and they would be the True Knights of Templar & the ones doing all this horrible stuff are phonies , just like the kings & queens. So getting back to the good ones , where do you think they ran to after the pope & king of france had them , nearly all executed in 1307? They fled to America , atleast some of them did.

I wonder how many real kings , queens , princes , princes & knights took refuge in America before Columbus ever got near it ?
What do you think about the burrows cave story peanut ?
 Quoting: YOUCITY 18850702



I will have to read more about Burrow's Cave, but on first glance got the impression that a hoax and money making scheme was likely involved.

The redundancy of the name Burrow's Cave caught my attention, then this from the article you linked-

"An important clue is that some of the stone slabs displayed a signature that was known in the Old World. It belonged to one Alexander Helios, son of the infamous Cleopatra and Marc Antony and twin brother of Cleopatra Selene, the future co-ruler of Mauritania (in Africa's western Sahara).

I believe we discussed this before earlier in this thread. Note #one of Philo's rules of allegory -

Rule #1 "the doubling of a phrase;"

Rule #2 "...apparently superfluous expressions (or stories) in the text."

Rule #6 “the synonyms must be carefully studied…”

Rule #9: “(Allegory can be gathered from) the part(s) of a word (or name).”

Rule # 10 "Every word must be explained in all its meanings, in order that different interpretations may be found;"

Rule #19: "noteworthy omissions."

The stories of buried treasure, gold, apples, old world sneeking into the new world, etc

are all allegory for certain DNA lineages.


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The Atlas Mountains and the Appalachians in SE USA are of the same origin. So you could say there was a bridge between NW Africa and SE NA.

And remember that the Atlas Mountains were thought to be where Zeus kept his golden apples in the care of the Hesperides.

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Sorry I've not been keeping up. I've had a nasty inner ear infection that popped up overnite a few days ago while I was traveling and unable to see a doctor.

Then while reading about Mary Queen of Scots I saw where Francis II, her first husband, died at age 16 (he was born in the year 1544) from an inner ear infection that abscessed.

"The health of the king deteriorated starting in November 1560. On November 16 he suffered a syncope. After only 17 months of reign, Francis II died December 5, 1560 from an ear condition. Multiple diseases have been suggested, such as a mastoiditis, a meningitis, or an otitis become abscess. Ambroise Paré considered performing a trepanning."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

then I saw this-

"Oscar Wilde died as the result of a severe ear infection and not from syphilis, doctors believe."

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Thank God for Amoxicillin ?
 Quoting: peanut 483033


Oh, I feel for you peanut , I have tiniginitis & I will never forget the inner ear infection I had in kindergarten. They took me to the Hospitol & put a tube in my ear that sucked out some big black ball of ???, just Remeber it was the worst pain of my life. I hope your not in to much pain peanut. That is weird by the way , what you read last night.

Hope you get well soonhf
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I read the whole link.
Some random coincidences/synchronicities (?)-

Arcadia-
There is a town in Missouri (Iron Co.) called Arcadia. Founded in 1849. The link says Arcadia was a symbol for paradise in Renaissance Europe, actually a place in Greece. It always seemed odd to me that a bunch of semi-illiterate farmers in MO named their town Arcadia. Was there some oral tradition passed down in their families? (mostly English Protestant settlers who migrated in family groups). Some Freemason connection?

I guess you already know the connection between Jacques de Molay, the last Grand Master of the Knights Templar who was burned at the stake - and the name of the junior branch of Freemasons who are called De Molays.
The female branch of Freemasons is called Eastern Stars and the girls branch is called Job's Daughters. I looked up who Job's daughters were in the Bible and one interesting thing was that they were equal inheritors with their brothers, the usual thing was for sons only to inherit. Connection with the idea that Jesus had a daughter (no sons) who went to France and the Merovingians were her descendents? (I'm not saying I believe this, just that someone believes it, maybe Freemasons and the Priory of Sion).

The symbolism of the blue rose and it's used by many artists and authors - it brought to my mind that Tennessee Williams (from St. Louis) used it in the Glass Menagerie. One of the characters had plurosis and called it blue roses. Was he aware of the blue rose symbolism, or was it an accident?

Main reason I'm very interested in this-

It's now said that the Priory of Sion was a hoax by Plantard. I personally believe it exists. I
think it does have something to do with Freemasons,.
Here is my own personal strange little story-

When I was 12 I was reading this book called Devil Water by Anya Seton who wrote historical fiction. The main characters were Charles Radclyffe and his brother James who were both English earls. They fought in the Jacobite rising to put the Catholic James Stuart on the English throne. Charles later fought to put James' son Charles on the throne. Both Charles Radclyffe and his brother were beheaded.
So I was telling my dad who was a Freemason one day that I was reading this book about this man named Charles Radclyffe and he looked shocked and said Charles Radclyffe? Why are you reading a book about him?

So, okay, I asked him how he even knew who he was (because he wasn't into English history) and here's where my memory goes vague - I think he may have said that Radclyffe had something to do with Freemasons and I said no, because he was a Catholic. But, I'm not sure. Maybe that's a false memory. You know, Masons can't talk about their super top secret stuff. LOL

Anyway, all I remember is that he had a mini-freak out that I was reading this book about this guy and that always stayed in my mind for some reason probably because he died shortly after that happened and also because I really liked the book and actually still have a copy. Whatever, it was this little incident I always remembered for years.

So fast forward to the late nineties and I read Holy Blood, Holy Grail which was a mind blower. Then I come to the list of all the Grand Masters of the Priory of Sion and damn, whose name is on there as a Grandmaster in the 1700s but Charles Radclyffe.
If my memory serves, HBHG said that Radclyffe was the founder of Scottish Rite Masonry.

hmmm...well he did try to put a Scottish Stuart on the throne..but why would a Catholic start freemasonry? I've always had the idea that Freemasons were anti-Catholic or maybe just anti-pope. But HBHG said one of the popes (Paul I think) was a secret Freemason. It's all so convoluted. I still don't totally understand how they explained the inter-connections in the book.
So, it's my own little intuition that Priory of Sion actually exists and they really do believe these things. I think my dad knew something about PoS. Also, why would three authors from the BBC get pulled into a hoax? Not very likely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1145382


I believe in the Priory as well. Can you explain to me what the deal with the meridians being moved is all about ?

Here's part of my ever changing theory, the Knights Templars are behind most of the stuff going on , all of the major sports franchises are owned by members of the Knights Malta. I believe other very powerful people are also modern day "Knights". I've been saying that the Dark Knight massacre was a Sirius occult ritual planned by the Knights Templars. Part of my theory also believes that there is a good faction of Knights and they would be the True Knights of Templar & the ones doing all this horrible stuff are phonies , just like the kings & queens. So getting back to the good ones , where do you think they ran to after the pope & king of france had them , nearly all executed in 1307? They fled to America , atleast some of them did.

I wonder how many real kings , queens , princes , princes & knights took refuge in America before Columbus ever got near it ?
What do you think about the burrows cave story peanut ?
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I will have to read more about Burrow's Cave, but on first glance got the impression that a hoax and money making scheme was likely involved.

The redundancy of the name Burrow's Cave caught my attention, then this from the article you linked-

"An important clue is that some of the stone slabs displayed a signature that was known in the Old World. It belonged to one Alexander Helios, son of the infamous Cleopatra and Marc Antony and twin brother of Cleopatra Selene, the future co-ruler of Mauritania (in Africa's western Sahara).

I believe we discussed this before earlier in this thread. Note #one of Philo's rules of allegory -

Rule #1 "the doubling of a phrase;"

Rule #2 "...apparently superfluous expressions (or stories) in the text."

Rule #6 “the synonyms must be carefully studied…”

Rule #9: “(Allegory can be gathered from) the part(s) of a word (or name).”

Rule # 10 "Every word must be explained in all its meanings, in order that different interpretations may be found;"

Rule #19: "noteworthy omissions."

The stories of buried treasure, gold, apples, old world sneeking into the new world, etc

are all allegory for certain DNA lineages.


[link to www.thenazareneway.com]
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Really, your not familar with Burrows cave ? I totally believe it and I can't wait to hear what you think after further investigation. Burrows claims to have found over 7000 artifacts & 3 bodies! ! How could one man reproduce so many pices like that ? One of the more popular theories is that the the bodies were the twin children of Mark Anthony & Cleopatra , the daughter Cleopatra Selene & son Alexander Helios. The thoery is just before or after
Mark Anthony & Cleopatra committed suicide ?, THIER children fled to America via the gulf of Mexico to the Mississippi to Illinois , otherwise known at "Little Eygpt" ! It also seems that one of the bodies may have been Cleopatra Selene's husband who was an Arican King , Juba II. What's interesting to me is that King Juba & Cleopatra Selen's mom , Cleopatra , not have many connections to Sirius , for some reason.
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I'll look into Burrows more. And the pain is better today, thank you.

If I'm not mistaken, Libya Egypt and Syria were all lands under Marc Antony when he was in the Triumvirate .......

interesting that they are targets now of Nato and/or undergoing revolts.
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I don't know why the meridians were changed but I'm going to research it.
As to how royalty hid out in America before Columbus- yes, very likely. After Columbus too. Whenever anyone posts about how all the presidents are descended from English royalty and have other common ancestors, I always tell them most of the early English settlers were either nobility or had royal blood. I found this out while doing a family genealogy. Some stayed in populated areas on the East coast and later in cities where they educated their children and got rich and are considered the bluebloods of America.
The rest wanted land, because that's what was important back then. So they migrated in family and church groups across the country and the families intermarried. Eventually a lot of them became illiterate because there was no need for farmers to read and write and no schools. So, ironically, these people with royal blood became the rednecks of America. Families tended to intermarry with neighboring families who owned the land around them. There are many of these old families in rural MO. Eventually, with all the difficulties of eking out a living by farming or trading with Indians (who they sometimes married), and with some of them living in poverty, they lost the knowledge of their royal and noble lineage. It really didn't matter and they had their own family secrets to hide so people back then didn't discuss their families much. Record keeping was really awful too.
Around the 1900s these farmers. loggers and lead miners started moving into the small towns in MO, got educated and then future generations started to move away. Some who stayed are today the meth makers of MO, the meth capital of the country. Some of them could probably trace their family back to nobility in the Tudor court. Then there are the French aristocrats who settled in Ste. Genevieve and St. Louis who I don't know about. Some families probably do have knowledge of who they were/are.
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I don't know how to imbed a link, but have you read this?
www.tribwatch.com/roslin.htm about Roslin and the Rose Line.
And follow the link at the bottom to all the other information. Whether you agree with his interpretation or not, it's an interesting read.
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Re: SAINT LOUIS ~ syncroni ~ €it¥ , Missouri
I don't know why the meridians were changed but I'm going to research it.
As to how royalty hid out in America before Columbus- yes, very likely. After Columbus too. Whenever anyone posts about how all the presidents are descended from English royalty and have other common ancestors, I always tell them most of the early English settlers were either nobility or had royal blood. I found this out while doing a family genealogy. Some stayed in populated areas on the East coast and later in cities where they educated their children and got rich and are considered the bluebloods of America.
The rest wanted land, because that's what was important back then. So they migrated in family and church groups across the country and the families intermarried. Eventually a lot of them became illiterate because there was no need for farmers to read and write and no schools. So, ironically, these people with royal blood became the rednecks of America. Families tended to intermarry with neighboring families who owned the land around them. There are many of these old families in rural MO. Eventually, with all the difficulties of eking out a living by farming or trading with Indians (who they sometimes married), and with some of them living in poverty, they lost the knowledge of their royal and noble lineage. It really didn't matter and they had their own family secrets to hide so people back then didn't discuss their families much. Record keeping was really awful too.
Around the 1900s these farmers. loggers and lead miners started moving into the small towns in MO, got educated and then future generations started to move away. Some who stayed are today the meth makers of MO, the meth capital of the country. Some of them could probably trace their family back to nobility in the Tudor court. Then there are the French aristocrats who settled in Ste. Genevieve and St. Louis who I don't know about. Some families probably do have knowledge of who they were/are.
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That is some really interesting stuff , it's almost unbelibable to fathom! I would believe it though. Man, could you imagine if some meth cook living in the Ozarks was actually a prince or king or even a direct descendant of one? What a movie script that would make! I've met more than a few pretty big time meth cooks and a lot of those guys are extremley intilgent.

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