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Truth about the "only begotten" son.

 
Bobby Johnson
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Truth about the "only begotten" son.
Of course you all know John 3:16...especially if you watch sports. Signs everywhere and even on the face of Tebow. It says that "God" has an only begotten "son".
Well the word 'beget' is defined as to procreate or sire. In order to do this action you have to copulate. If you are not married to the female and have a child with her it is called fornication and the child is a bastard. The old hebrews would stone her to death for such an activity.
But...."God" loves the world so much that he 'begat' a son with a human female. Even "God" has to follow the laws of nature, so he had to copulate with her and implant his celestial semen into her womb to 'beget' this bastard child.
Why?
So that this son would be killed in a religious ritual called human sacrifice. Eph 5:2, 1 John 3:16...etc and many other scriptures about his blood sacrifice.
What kind of insanity is this?
God copulating with a human to get a bastard half breed son to participate in a blood sacrifice.
This is not a good thing.
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God would not need to copulate, he could create the child in the womb with his/her/its own mind faculties.
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that's why they call him Old Dirty Bastard.

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Re: Truth about the "only begotten" son.
In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

Jesus is God, don't burn eteranlly. ill pray for you.
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God would not need to copulate, he could create the child in the womb with his/her/its own mind faculties.
 Quoting: Laïla

Sorry, that logis does not fly. It is very clear in the hebrew scriptures what to 'beget' means. Lots of begetting in these scriptures and it means to copulate. Pure and simple.
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In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins”

Jesus is God, don't burn eteranlly. ill pray for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4619492


Perhaps you should smarten up and realize you have been had. Of course, you will condemn the truth of the matter and threaten me with burning because I tell the Truth. So sad.
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Sorry, that logis does not fly. It is very clear in the hebrew scriptures what to 'beget' means. Lots of begetting in these scriptures and it means to copulate. Pure and simple.
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The Hebrew did not think that GOD did copulate with Mary. From what I heard it was just an Elohim. The bible is mixing the LORD, Lord of an area with GOD.
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Of course you all know John 3:16...especially if you watch sports. Signs everywhere and even on the face of Tebow. It says that "God" has an only begotten "son".
Well the word 'beget' is defined as to procreate or sire. In order to do this action you have to copulate. If you are not married to the female and have a child with her it is called fornication and the child is a bastard. The old hebrews would stone her to death for such an activity.
But...."God" loves the world so much that he 'begat' a son with a human female. Even "God" has to follow the laws of nature, so he had to copulate with her and implant his celestial semen into her womb to 'beget' this bastard child.
Why?
So that this son would be killed in a religious ritual called human sacrifice. Eph 5:2, 1 John 3:16...etc and many other scriptures about his blood sacrifice.
What kind of insanity is this?
God copulating with a human to get a bastard half breed son to participate in a blood sacrifice.
This is not a good thing.
 Quoting: Bobby Johnson 1307041


think harder with a more enlightened view and you will get there...
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
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Jepthah sacrifices his little daughter for God-
"At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."



"So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter." (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)
THIS IS SOME SICK STUFF. rEAL SICK.
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Jepthah sacrifices his little daughter for God-
"At that time the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah, and he went throughout the land of Gilead and Manasseh, including Mizpah in Gilead, and led an army against the Ammonites. And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD. He said, "If you give me victory over the Ammonites, I will give to the LORD the first thing coming out of my house to greet me when I return in triumph. I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."



"So Jephthah led his army against the Ammonites, and the LORD gave him victory. He thoroughly defeated the Ammonites from Aroer to an area near Minnith – twenty towns – and as far away as Abel-keramim. Thus Israel subdued the Ammonites. When Jephthah returned home to Mizpah, his daughter – his only child – ran out to meet him, playing on a tambourine and dancing for joy. When he saw her, he tore his clothes in anguish. "My daughter!" he cried out. "My heart is breaking! What a tragedy that you came out to greet me. For I have made a vow to the LORD and cannot take it back." And she said, "Father, you have made a promise to the LORD. You must do to me what you have promised, for the LORD has given you a great victory over your enemies, the Ammonites. But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a virgin." "You may go," Jephthah said. And he let her go away for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never have children. When she returned home, her father kept his vow, and she died a virgin. So it has become a custom in Israel for young Israelite women to go away for four days each year to lament the fate of Jephthah's daughter." (Judges 11:29-40 NLT)
THIS IS SOME SICK STUFF. rEAL SICK.
 Quoting: Bobby Johnson 1307041


Now, look at this passage:
Deuteronomy 18:10

“There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering.”

Hypocracy, pure and simple.
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Well, if Jepthah made a deal with 'God' to win a battle and then sacrificed his little daughter...perhaps this sports idol, Tebow, has made the same kind of bargain.
Wonder what 'God' will want from him?
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"She and her friends went into the hills and wept BECAUSE she would never have children"

"But first let me go up and roam in the hills and weep with my friends for two months, because I will die a VIRGIN." 

CONSIDERING DEUTERONOMY FORBIDS CHILD SACRIFICES, SOME CANNOT FATHOM THAT THIS PASSAGE IS CONSISTENT.

Why would she go away to weep because SHE WOULD NEVER HAVE CHILDREN????? Wouldn't she have gone away to reconcile herself to DEATH?

Her Father was distraught because his vow meant that she was to be set aside from childbearing during her lifetime.

Those that choose to believe that God is not merciful, just and loving will always see what they want - not what He wants you to see.

Why bash the Truth? Why not go against the grain and ask God into your life? Yes, you can't because you choose to believe humanism, self and the lie that God and His Truth are a fable. Do you not sense the time that you live in? Do you not then connect the hundred antichrist posts everyday here on GLP? Do you choose to go along with the world? Has it been made so fun and pleasurable for you that you willingly choose to believe that God in Heaven doesn't exist? These posts simply exist to reinforce Satans deception so that you do not turn and seek the truth. Jesus Christ will be returning - do you see yourself standing there saying "sorry but I preferred to blasphemy you instead of looking to you for the Truth? Or how about "I so loved the pleasures of this world that I couldn't be bothered to approach you for salvation for eternal life?" Do you really care so little for yourself that you would know what the signs of the end time, but happily accept Satan's lies ? Repent, ask for forgiveness and stop taking doing Satan's dirty work for him!
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idiots here is truth number 1 for you all.. the christ is the father of the father(god) and is the lord of all lords.. know this and make your way to the true creator and not the so called father in heaven.. for the christ has no mother or father in reality but had to make himself appear and incarnate so he did it his own way.. dont get it twisted..
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If that is all you see and you don't look deeper into WHY He would do such a thing for you, then you are missing the whole point. FOCUS on the "Why" and not so much the "how" and you will find the Truth. There is freedom there!
hf
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Re: Truth about the "only begotten" son.
The Immaculate conception is a ROMAN/PAGAN belief. How Zeus implanted Goddess Diana, Its also a form of Kundalini practice . There is no such thing in Judaism, The Messiah had a human Father. and is to have a human Father.

The Christianity today is Pagan Roman.
Its not at all like Judaism, and Jesus was a jewish.
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Why mindlessly condemn me for telling the Truth about the 'begotten' son.
Again, look at the top name in the news today, the sports idol Tebow.
He plays a sport and gets paid millions of dollar for doing his job. Yet, he insists on bringing religion into the game. His favourite verse is John 3:16.
The carrot and the stick. Either accept the human blood 'sacrifice' and get the carrot, everlasting life...or get the stick certain death or to 'perish'.
But do not worry, kids, cause 'God' loves us.
Yeah, sure. Dream on.
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Why mindlessly condemn me for telling the Truth about the 'begotten' son.
Again, look at the top name in the news today, the sports idol Tebow.
He plays a sport and gets paid millions of dollar for doing his job. Yet, he insists on bringing religion into the game. His favourite verse is John 3:16.
The carrot and the stick. Either accept the human blood 'sacrifice' and get the carrot, everlasting life...or get the stick certain death or to 'perish'.
But do not worry, kids, cause 'God' loves us.
Yeah, sure. Dream on.
 Quoting: Bobby Johnson 1307041

Sorry, kinda got off the subject with this Tebow business. Just one more thing. Something about a camel going through the eye of a needle than a rich man gets to heaven. Also, according to the story, a rich man wanted to join the group and the Rabbi told him to go sell all that he owns and give it to the poor.
If Mr Tebow wants to really play the game instead of a bit of lip service, perhaps he should do the same.
bobby Johnson despises hypocrites.
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Jesus was really a good man, but do you really think that he was the incarnation of God on Earth?

I believe in God, but I don't think that He would come to Earth in a human body...
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Jesus was really a good man, but do you really think that he was the incarnation of God on Earth?

I believe in God, but I don't think that He would come to Earth in a human body...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8826057

Bobby Johnson does not think so , either! It is just a story that the feeble minded choose to subscribe to. The very idea of an almighty God copulating with a hebrew girl and having a son is just plain silly.
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God is Spirit. Born of the Spirit are His children.
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If jesus was the son of god of the old testament, than he is the son of Satan

first a question, was the God of the old testament the same as the God spoken of in the New testament. To follow are verses that attribute the same act recorded in different places in the bible to Satan and then in the second account to Jehovah.


"And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provokedDavid to number Israel." 1 Chronicles 21:1.

"And again the anger of JEHOVAH was kindled against Israel, andhe moved David against them to say, Go, number Israeland Judah." 2 Samuel 24:1

This not to mention the atrocities commited by Gods chosen people at his orders, the killing of men,women and children. And in some instances he ordered to spare the female virgins and either permitted raping them or the sale of them in slavery ie prostitution. Now thats what I call a kind and loving god. lol. To all those who value theirs souls leave the church, and christianity for they are the workers for Satan. Since the jewish and Islam worship the same god I would recommend it for them to. sk
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If jesus was the son of god of the old testament, than he is the son of Satan

first a question, was the God of the old testament the same as the God spoken of in the New testament. To follow are verses that attribute the same act recorded in different places in the bible to Satan and then in the second account to Jehovah.


"And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provokedDavid to number Israel." 1 Chronicles 21:1.

"And again the anger of JEHOVAH was kindled against Israel, andhe moved David against them to say, Go, number Israeland Judah." 2 Samuel 24:1

This not to mention the atrocities commited by Gods chosen people at his orders, the killing of men,women and children. And in some instances he ordered to spare the female virgins and either permitted raping them or the sale of them in slavery ie prostitution. Now thats what I call a kind and loving god. lol. To all those who value theirs souls leave the church, and christianity for they are the workers for Satan. Since the jewish and Islam worship the same god I would recommend it for them to. sk
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You should study the book to know the basics of relationship between the characters there. Or stay stupid.
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If jesus was the son of god of the old testament, than he is the son of Satan

first a question, was the God of the old testament the same as the God spoken of in the New testament. To follow are verses that attribute the same act recorded in different places in the bible to Satan and then in the second account to Jehovah.


"And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provokedDavid to number Israel." 1 Chronicles 21:1.

"And again the anger of JEHOVAH was kindled against Israel, andhe moved David against them to say, Go, number Israeland Judah." 2 Samuel 24:1

This not to mention the atrocities commited by Gods chosen people at his orders, the killing of men,women and children. And in some instances he ordered to spare the female virgins and either permitted raping them or the sale of them in slavery ie prostitution. Now thats what I call a kind and loving god. lol. To all those who value theirs souls leave the church, and christianity for they are the workers for Satan. Since the jewish and Islam worship the same god I would recommend it for them to. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


You should study the book to know the basics of relationship between the characters there. Or stay stupid.
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Hey, I quoted what is attributed to jehovah and to satan. Easy for you to say BS but I see no proof. sk
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Sorry, that logis does not fly. It is very clear in the hebrew scriptures what to 'beget' means. Lots of begetting in these scriptures and it means to copulate. Pure and simple.
 Quoting: Bobby Johnson 1307041


The Hebrew did not think that GOD did copulate with Mary. From what I heard it was just an Elohim. The bible is mixing the LORD, Lord of an area with GOD.
 Quoting: Laïla


Are you guys purely uneducated about what Hebrews of the Tanach believe in?

I'm not saying this as an insult. I'm just asking if you have not researched it..

Their HaShem is not human.
HaShem is not physical, but only Spirit.
None of them ever saw HaShem. It tells you even in your NT.

The Muslims and J.ews do not worship any man-god, PERIOD.
Their HaShem/Allah is Spirit....
You will never see either of those two religions bow to the ground to worship a man, human...NO man-god.

These people will die first and have gone to their graves at the hand of Christians, over the centuries who have tried to force them to accept a man as HaShem/Allah..

It's only you Christian's that do this out of the three Abraham faiths...

Do you not realize this???????

Both J.ewish people and Muslims believe Christians are idolaters because of the practice of worshiping a "man-god"..

This is FACT..


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The Immaculate conception is a ROMAN/PAGAN belief. How Zeus implanted Goddess Diana, Its also a form of Kundalini practice . There is no such thing in Judaism, The Messiah had a human Father. and is to have a human Father.

The Christianity today is Pagan Roman.
Its not at all like Judaism, and Jesus was a jewish.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


Yes, thank you for bringing this up Apollo.

The ideology of the "Immaculate Conception" is Roman contrived absolutely.

It's about the birth of "Mary"..

mary immaculate




Queen of Heaven..

The ideology is about Mary's own birth. She being born without any stain....

...in the first instance of her conception..."

Mary was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin at the first moment of her animation, and sanctifying grace was given to her before sin could have taken effect in her soul.

"...was preserved exempt from all stain of original sin..."

The formal active essence of original sin was not removed from her soul, as it is removed from others by baptism; it was excluded, it never was in her soul. Simultaneously with the exclusion of sin. The state of original sanctity, innocence, and justice, as opposed to original sin, was conferred upon her, by which gift every stain and fault, all depraved emotions, passions, and debilities, essentially pertaining to original sin, were excluded. But she was not made exempt from the temporal penalties of Adam — from sorrow, bodily infirmities, and death.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to www.newadvent.org]

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If jesus was the son of god of the old testament, than he is the son of Satan

first a question, was the God of the old testament the same as the God spoken of in the New testament. To follow are verses that attribute the same act recorded in different places in the bible to Satan and then in the second account to Jehovah.


"And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provokedDavid to number Israel." 1 Chronicles 21:1.

"And again the anger of JEHOVAH was kindled against Israel, andhe moved David against them to say, Go, number Israeland Judah." 2 Samuel 24:1

This not to mention the atrocities commited by Gods chosen people at his orders, the killing of men,women and children. And in some instances he ordered to spare the female virgins and either permitted raping them or the sale of them in slavery ie prostitution. Now thats what I call a kind and loving god. lol. To all those who value theirs souls leave the church, and christianity for they are the workers for Satan. Since the jewish and Islam worship the same god I would recommend it for them to. sk
 Quoting: seeker2


This is very interesting, indeed. But, then again, these are only characters in a play. We actually have folks today that invest their whole lives in this poppycock and are willing to kill you if you do not go along with them. Certainly all religion is a con game. Look at all the sucker that have bought into it and try desperately to defend this evil and make it nicety nice.
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I'm sorry sir but "truth" and your religion do not mix.
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I'm sorry sir but "truth" and your religion do not mix.
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You assume that I have a religion. I do not. Grew up some time ago and saw that ALL religion is a farce. Hope others can figure it out before religion destroys us all.
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God is Spirit. Born of the Spirit are His children.
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A 'spirit' cannot reproduce and have a flesh and blood only begotten son. Pure fantasy for simple minded folks to buy into.
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Of course you all know John 3:16...especially if you watch sports. Signs everywhere and even on the face of Tebow. It says that "God" has an only begotten "son".
Well the word 'beget' is defined as to procreate or sire. In order to do this action you have to copulate. If you are not married to the female and have a child with her it is called fornication and the child is a bastard. The old hebrews would stone her to death for such an activity.
But...."God" loves the world so much that he 'begat' a son with a human female. Even "God" has to follow the laws of nature, so he had to copulate with her and implant his celestial semen into her womb to 'beget' this bastard child.
Why?
So that this son would be killed in a religious ritual called human sacrifice. Eph 5:2, 1 John 3:16...etc and many other scriptures about his blood sacrifice.
What kind of insanity is this?
God copulating with a human to get a bastard half breed son to participate in a blood sacrifice.
This is not a good thing.
 Quoting: Bobby Johnson 1307041


This is just another lie that was written into the tome by age old corrupt priesthood. God does not have one son, he has many, in fact he has so many that only he knows the number. You are all sons and daughters of God. You all have the spark, the breath of life and the will and love of the Father inside you, it is all of you.
Only one son was and is a lie.

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