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How bad is Fukushima, really?

 
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How bad is Fukushima, really?
Prior to the Fukushima disaster, I always believed that a full scale meltdown of a nuclear reactor would result in immediate mass casualties in the thousands in the area surrounding the site with significant die off of hundreds of thousands more in the months following the event.

Fukushima involved multiple meltdowns and several hydrogen explosions. While I acknowledge that there may be an ongoing cover-up, it is clear that there was not a mass casualty event in the immediate aftermath. While many hundreds, if not thousands, have been sickened, I believe we would have gotten word if the hospitals had been swamped.

My question is, just how bad is Fukushima? Are we talking about mass casualties in the Northern hemisphere in the next year, or are we simply looking at a long term increase in cancer cases?
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arent there already reports of women losing hair, children vomiting and very ill,?? fingernails falling off.. also some workers dying getting very sick from around that area

I wouldnt hope for casualties, and obviously we would see these appearing in japan far before they hit the US. but this March 11 will be the one year marker

365 days of constant release cannot be good.

UPDATE:
Thread: Fukushima women are losing their hair
Thread: Just In!!! Fukushima Decon Worker Keels Over And Dies While Working!!!

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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
Have a look at the media silence about how much radiation is hitting America.

Do you think that is because there is NO BAD EFFECTS on Americans?


I have been told by two mainstream science journalists based in the USA, that there is a total ban on reporting just how bad the situation is to Americans - let alone the poor Japs.

Think about it, you have radioactive shit pouring into the air and ocean every single day, and it is going to be that way for many years to come.

That radioactive shit is now all over the northern hemisphere, and will cause zillions of extra cancer deaths.


Would you rather be told about it and live in fear, or would you rather be told about how Katy Perry got divorced recently?


You ask how bad Fukushima is - it is almost as bad as it gets.
"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
Have been researching, studying it since the earthquake. My conclusion is that we will only know how bad it is in retrospect, say 10+ years down the road.
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
millions upon millions are already dead, the japanesegovernment is just hiding it.there are reports that millions are dying in america too, its just not allowed to be mentioned in the main stream media.

this is the worst catastrophe to ever hit mankind and im afraid we are all doomed to die.this situation gets worse and worse everyday, imagine chernobyl but x 10000000 times and your still not even close.

stay on GLP its the only place where youll hear whats truly going on in this god fosaken waste land.
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
Not bad enough for anyone else but people who live near it to care.
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You know how bad it is when Satan's dog shits on the floor and eats the morning paper? It's worse than that.
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millions upon millions are already dead, the japanesegovernment is just hiding it.there are reports that millions are dying in america too, its just not allowed to be mentioned in the main stream media.

this is the worst catastrophe to ever hit mankind and im afraid we are all doomed to die.this situation gets worse and worse everyday, imagine chernobyl but x 10000000 times and your still not even close.

stay on GLP its the only place where youll hear whats truly going on in this god fosaken waste land.
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cruise its the anti-nuclear activists man they want to give all animals a drivers license and tax human breathing 1rof1
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millions upon millions are already dead, the japanesegovernment is just hiding it.there are reports that millions are dying in america too, its just not allowed to be mentioned in the main stream media.

this is the worst catastrophe to ever hit mankind and im afraid we are all doomed to die.this situation gets worse and worse everyday, imagine chernobyl but x 10000000 times and your still not even close.

stay on GLP its the only place where youll hear whats truly going on in this god fosaken waste land.
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O.O
John works 40 hours a week at a factory job. His rate of pay is $12.00 per hour. This week he worked an additional 3.5 hours of overtime for which he is paid $18.00 per hour. If he stops at the bar on the way home and drinks up 40% of his paycheck, how long until his wife piles all his shit up on the sidewalk?
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Have a look at the media silence about how much radiation is hitting America.

Do you think that is because there is NO BAD EFFECTS on Americans?


I have been told by two mainstream science journalists based in the USA, that there is a total ban on reporting just how bad the situation is to Americans - let alone the poor Japs.

Think about it, you have radioactive shit pouring into the air and ocean every single day, and it is going to be that way for many years to come.

That radioactive shit is now all over the northern hemisphere, and will cause zillions of extra cancer deaths.


Would you rather be told about it and live in fear, or would you rather be told about how Katy Perry got divorced recently?


You ask how bad Fukushima is - it is almost as bad as it gets.
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wtfark Are you going to publish an article on the ban?
Sounds like a juicy cover up.
Another public service announcement from the Southern Hemisphere Information Leveraging Locus.
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
millions upon millions are already dead
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bsflag Hundreds of Billions 1rof1
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millions upon millions are already dead
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bsflag Hundreds of Billions 1rof1
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gajillions upon gajillions!!!!

this morning when i went to kill whales i had to step over 5467 bodies. 453 of them were small children.

theyre lying to us!!!!
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
millions upon millions are already dead, the japanesegovernment is just hiding it.there are reports that millions are dying in america too, its just not allowed to be mentioned in the main stream media.

this is the worst catastrophe to ever hit mankind and im afraid we are all doomed to die.this situation gets worse and worse everyday, imagine chernobyl but x 10000000 times and your still not even close.

stay on GLP its the only place where youll hear whats truly going on in this god fosaken waste land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8866358


cruise its the anti-nuclear activists man they want to give all animals a drivers license and tax human breathing 1rof1
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animals already need drivers licenses, its just TEPCO is lying about it!!!

bump for truth, the world needs to know what us GLPers know!!!!
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
millions upon millions are already dead, the japanesegovernment is just hiding it.there are reports that millions are dying in america too, its just not allowed to be mentioned in the main stream media.

this is the worst catastrophe to ever hit mankind and im afraid we are all doomed to die.this situation gets worse and worse everyday, imagine chernobyl but x 10000000 times and your still not even close.

stay on GLP its the only place where youll hear whats truly going on in this god fosaken waste land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8866358


cruise its the anti-nuclear activists man they want to give all animals a drivers license and tax human breathing 1rof1
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animals already need drivers licenses, its just TEPCO is lying about it!!!

bump for truth, the world needs to know what us GLPers know!!!!
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Dear AC, why do you persist in the ridiculous? If people in Japan are fine, just tell us that. Or, are you afraid of the truth?

Actually, I don't believe that any of us fully know the truth. Some of us are interested in what others who are more knowledgable have to say. Do you have knowledge that you would care to be serious about and tell us? Everything is fine and people go on with their day to day lives with no problems? Nothing to worry about. Tepco is going to fix the problem and it will all go away. Is that what you believe?
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There's no question that the incidents of cancer-related illness and death will skyrocket in and around Fukushima. It doesn't appear that you have > 1 servient dosage in the area surrounding the site, otherwisse, people would be dropping like flies from radiation poisoning. While I understand that there's a media blackout, at a certain point it becomes next to impossible to cover-up mass casualties.
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
It is very, very bad but not enough
to kill all of us!

The majority of the fuel is still inside
of the contaiment and not released
to the Environment but there is a ongoing
danger that all of this explode!

I calculated that it is bad for the next 300- 500 Years
after this Time the genetic pool will regenerate itself!
G.Y.!B.E.
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
It is very, very bad but not enough
to kill all of us!

The majority of the fuel is still inside
of the contaiment and not released
to the Environment but there is a ongoing
danger that all of this explode!

I calculated that it is bad for the next 300- 500 Years
after this Time the genetic pool will regenerate itself!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


Is that all? Hell....we are good to go then.....not!!
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
Have a look at the media silence about how much radiation is hitting America.

Do you think that is because there is NO BAD EFFECTS on Americans?


I have been told by two mainstream science journalists based in the USA, that there is a total ban on reporting just how bad the situation is to Americans - let alone the poor Japs.

Think about it, you have radioactive shit pouring into the air and ocean every single day, and it is going to be that way for many years to come.

That radioactive shit is now all over the northern hemisphere, and will cause zillions of extra cancer deaths.


Would you rather be told about it and live in fear, or would you rather be told about how Katy Perry got divorced recently?


You ask how bad Fukushima is - it is almost as bad as it gets.
 Quoting: nexuseditor



I really doubt this,
there are already countless scientific Studies
and Articles about this crisis, from the deep Sea
up to the Ionicsphere and from Mouses up to Humans,
there are literally a million News Reports about
F'Shima and a lot of Webpages,
a "Media-Black Out " look much different!

This Weekend we had a Conference with 10.000 People,
all widely reported, Nhk showed at prime time a Fukushima Special!

Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 01/15/2012 09:59 AM
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You don't REALLY want to know!!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
meltdown+.guv=coverup

radiation+human=cancer

questions?

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@ Op and Nexuseditor (because of the so called Media Black Out),

maybe the following Page will help you
to get a better Picture of the happenings in F'Shima!

[link to www.scirus.com]

Last Edited by The real and almighty Atom-Boy on 01/15/2012 11:02 AM
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Have been researching, studying it since the earthquake. My conclusion is that we will only know how bad it is in retrospect, say 10+ years down the road.
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I wouldn't enter Japan now, but I just found this article.
[link to www.japanculture-nyc.com]
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
Have a look at the media silence about how much radiation is hitting America.

Would you rather be told about it and live in fear, or would you rather be told about how Katy Perry got divorced recently?


You ask how bad Fukushima is - it is almost as bad as it gets.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


This video was posted on GLP recently. Very very interesting...Ignorance is Bliss...
[link to www.youtube.com]

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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
Have a look at the media silence about how much radiation is hitting America.

Do you think that is because there is NO BAD EFFECTS on Americans?


I have been told by two mainstream science journalists based in the USA, that there is a total ban on reporting just how bad the situation is to Americans - let alone the poor Japs.

Think about it, you have radioactive shit pouring into the air and ocean every single day, and it is going to be that way for many years to come.

That radioactive shit is now all over the northern hemisphere, and will cause zillions of extra cancer deaths.


Would you rather be told about it and live in fear, or would you rather be told about how Katy Perry got divorced recently?


You ask how bad Fukushima is - it is almost as bad as it gets.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


the "reality based community"

A conversation with journalist Ron Suskind
and a senior Bush aide-

"The liberal press
were part of what the Bush administration calls
the reality based community
- those who "believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernable reality."
The 'aide' emphasized,
"That's not the way the world works anymore.
We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.
And while you're studying that reality - judiciously as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too...
We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left just to study what we do.
Reality a historical human actor's construct created by the sheer power of the will."

The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove)
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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
Have a look at the media silence about how much radiation is hitting America.

Do you think that is because there is NO BAD EFFECTS on Americans?


I have been told by two mainstream science journalists based in the USA, that there is a total ban on reporting just how bad the situation is to Americans - let alone the poor Japs.

Think about it, you have radioactive shit pouring into the air and ocean every single day, and it is going to be that way for many years to come.

That radioactive shit is now all over the northern hemisphere, and will cause zillions of extra cancer deaths.


Would you rather be told about it and live in fear, or would you rather be told about how Katy Perry got divorced recently?


You ask how bad Fukushima is - it is almost as bad as it gets.
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+1

It's "On The Beach" bad.

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Re: How bad is Fukushima, really?
It is very, very bad but not enough
to kill all of us!

The majority of the fuel is still inside
of the contaiment and not released
to the Environment but there is a ongoing
danger that all of this explode!

I calculated that it is bad for the next 300- 500 Years
after this Time the genetic pool will regenerate itself!
 Quoting: Atom-Boy


..>> it's good 1n couple hundred years you ,japs will all turn "WHITE"

banana2
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we all know it's a ELE ,
it's only a matter of time before the sheep understand this.

the + to this is it make the uber rich have to work that much harder to get off the planet to save the what ever is left of the human race.

-- not that will help any of us normal people.

where did you think all that cash has been going anyway?
a war?
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Humans evolved to be afraid of things they don't understand. Most people don't understand radiation and so they are irrationally afraid of it.

They do what primitive people do to explain things they can't understand - they make up myths and fairy tales to explain and justify their fears.

At the time of Fukushima I made it clear that it wasn't a big deal, I have studied radiation and radiation poisoning prior to the incident, and was constantly told by the anti-nuclear fear-mongers that I was stupid, a shill, etc, etc.

It is hard to fight millions of years of evolution.

Try to keep that in mind when people tell you to be afraid of things - global warming, pesticides, etc, etc. You will naturally be afraid of things you don't really understand. People will use that fear to manipulate you.
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We are humans, FFS! and we WILL overcome this radioactive shit!

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Have a look at the media silence about how much radiation is hitting America.

Do you think that is because there is NO BAD EFFECTS on Americans?


I have been told by two mainstream science journalists based in the USA, that there is a total ban on reporting just how bad the situation is to Americans - let alone the poor Japs.

Think about it, you have radioactive shit pouring into the air and ocean every single day, and it is going to be that way for many years to come.

That radioactive shit is now all over the northern hemisphere, and will cause zillions of extra cancer deaths.


Would you rather be told about it and live in fear, or would you rather be told about how Katy Perry got divorced recently?


You ask how bad Fukushima is - it is almost as bad as it gets.
 Quoting: nexuseditor


the "reality based community"

A conversation with journalist Ron Suskind
and a senior Bush aide-

"The liberal press
were part of what the Bush administration calls
the reality based community
- those who "believe that solutions emerge from judicious study of discernable reality."
The 'aide' emphasized,
"That's not the way the world works anymore.
We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.
And while you're studying that reality - judiciously as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too...
We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left just to study what we do.
Reality a historical human actor's construct created by the sheer power of the will."

The source of the term is a quotation in an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove)
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought


trust and avoidance -
a journey
from ignorance to dependence;
cognitive dissonance at work in a familiar play-
The Human Condition


Ignorance is Bliss When it Comes to Challenging Social Issues

By remaining unaware, people can justify trusting government, study finds

WASHINGTON— The less people know about important complex issues such as the economy, energy consumption and the environment, the more they want to avoid becoming well-informed, according to new research published by the American Psychological Association.
And the more urgent the issue, the more people want to remain unaware, according to a paper published online in APA’s Journal of Personality and Social Psychology®.
“These studies were designed to help understand the so-called ‘ignorance is bliss’ approach to social issues,” said author Steven Shepherd, a graduate student with the University of Waterloo in Ontario. “The findings can assist educators in addressing significant barriers to getting people involved and engaged in social issues.”
Through a series of five studies conducted in 2010 and 2011 with 511 adults in the United States and Canada, the researchers described “a chain reaction from ignorance about a subject to dependence on and trust in the government to deal with the issue.”


[link to www.apa.org]
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I am a communist brain washed sheep.
 Quoting: a student of Protean thought


Here we have a "Student of Protean thought".
Guess what that is?
Collective thought, group think, no individual, no personal liberty, Marxist communist ideology.