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Do religious people understand that if they were born in another country-then they would probably be a different religion?

 
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This guy I used to know told me only Christians got into heaven-everyone else goes to hell. I asked him about people that were born in other countries where everyone is Muslim or Hindu or whatever. He said they were all going to hell. I asked him about tribal people who had never heard of Christianity. Same thing-burning in hell.

I believe in God. I am not religious though. I don't understand how people can believe they are right but everyone else who ever lived are wrong.

I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand.
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Wow. Excellent point. Yes! I do understand that! But..see..I was born here, and..my faith is what it is.

I'm good with that. :o)
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This guy I used to know told me only Christians got into heaven-everyone else goes to hell. I asked him about people that were born in other countries where everyone is Muslim or Hindu or whatever. He said they were all going to hell. I asked him about tribal people who had never heard of Christianity. Same thing-burning in hell.

I believe in God. I am not religious though. I don't understand how people can believe they are right but everyone else who ever lived are wrong.

I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand.
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Sure! Nothing easier than that!bumphf
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Thinking about this question was one of the reasons I abandoned any religion some 25 years ago.
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I knew one would say this.....so you're saying that if Saudi Arabia is like 99% muslim, then you'd have been the exception if you had been born there, right?

RIIIIIGHT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1432018


No - not at all. I am saying that God was in control of my life even before I was born, and that he placed me here to be a believer in this place. He put my soul here and He made my faith possible.

If He had made me to be born in SA, and born into an muslim family, I would have been a muslim. Conversion is always a possibility, however.

This is where the idea "there but by the grace of God go I" idea comes from.

You might want to study some of the writing of John Calvin.
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so you have such a massive ego that not only did you pick the right religion, but god placed you in a position to make sure you picked the right religion by putting your birthplace in a most favorable location? geez, the arrogance.
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He clearly stated "God was in control of my life even before I was born". Not seeing the massive ego or arrogance at all in that statement.
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I see a massive victim. A person that is not in control of himself. That stopped thinking. A sheeples that thinks there is a spirit that manages his life. Poor, poor , poor.

“The people are God. One could also say “a part of God”. A personified God with long beard or sitting on a cloud does not exist.” (Jesus Christ; 97 05 13)

„There is no God, who punishes. God, the original substance of existence is pure love. Humans are responsible for themselves what happens to them. They create their future.
(Jesus Christ; 97 12 01)
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Simple souls need religion. Eventually they graduate from the stranglehold of churches.
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This guy I used to know told me only Christians got into heaven-everyone else goes to hell. I asked him about people that were born in other countries where everyone is Muslim or Hindu or whatever. He said they were all going to hell. I asked him about tribal people who had never heard of Christianity. Same thing-burning in hell.

I believe in God. I am not religious though. I don't understand how people can believe they are right but everyone else who ever lived are wrong.

I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand.
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Did you ask the guy if God only gives those other religions, babies with souls he doesn't like and doesn't want them back?

Because if the guy is correct, God would be condemning them to hell, by not giving the babies Christian parents.

There's something a little screwy with the whole my religion is the only one that is correct theory.
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Simple souls need religion. Eventually they graduate from the stranglehold of churches.
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Funny how the biggest complaint from the non religious about the religious is that they are judgemental....

Yet....most non religious peoples posts here are judgemental of the religious.

Too many people on their high horse around here.
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so if you're born in a south american rainforest and live there your whole life you're going to hell?
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If you sin, which we ALL do, then yes. UNLESS you have a SUBSTITUTE (of which there is only one: Jesus Christ of Nazareth)!

Am I not saying it clearly enough?
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[link to www.scborromeo.org]

"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336
847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338
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This guy I used to know told me only Christians got into heaven-everyone else goes to hell. I asked him about people that were born in other countries where everyone is Muslim or Hindu or whatever. He said they were all going to hell. I asked him about tribal people who had never heard of Christianity. Same thing-burning in hell.

I believe in God. I am not religious though. I don't understand how people can believe they are right but everyone else who ever lived are wrong.

I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand.
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Ego my friend ego, ppl who really understand god laugh at all religions.
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I fail to see where ego plays a part in all of this. EVERYBODY would end up in hell if God did not intervene and decide to save some of the human race. Those that come to believe and are saved did not do a thing to earn that salvation.
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Re: Do religious people understand that if they were born in another country-then they would probably be a different religion?
exactly,

if you are born in a muslim country where everyone is muslim,

well your familly is gonna make their children be muslim.

all their familly, friends, strangers, and society and CULTURE are all the same religion.


if you want to alienate your self from society and thereby shaming yourself and parents based on not " CONFORMING" to your religion,

then you are gonna get it ! some kind of punishment: physical , mental, etc.



Christians also tend to try to have their kids to pressure or teach their kids to join their religion.

I mean childhood indoctrination beings at ages 2+. Again if all your family , and immediate family are all the same religion and are all devout, you conform or be labeled an outcast.

if you raised in love, sometimes you will accept the relligion because you were born in loving family, so it must be right since u have no troubles in life.

good in america it's diverse and we have freedom of religion where we dont have to join ouro parent's religion.

unless they make u until u are 18. where your partens may force u until u move out. and good luck to that in today's economy.

ok i make tons of generalizations... but you can discern what more liekkly is possible.
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No way in hell I'd be a devout follower of hate. Maybe I'd call myself a muzzie but I definitely wouldn't be a "good" one that reads the quran and obeys the rules. Just like the Christians that really only go to church for the sake of going. I'd like to think I would seek out a different religion but who knows.
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Re: Do religious people understand that if they were born in another country-then they would probably be a different religion?
You don't go to Hell because you aren't a Christian. You go to Hell because of your sin. You will give an account for every word, thought, and deed, and just one sin is all it takes (and we all do that every day many times over, no matter what religion you are or aren't). The only way to go to Heaven is by meeting God's requirement=perfection. Since none of us can or will meet that, we are all doomed. Unless you find a SUBSTITUTE. That is where Jesus Christ of Nazareth comes in. He DID live a perfect, sinless life, but died anyway. He died as a SUBSTITUTE for those that HE as God chose, before the foundations of the world.
That is the Biblical answer at least, and I believe it. There is no problem with the question of "what about those who have never heard of Jesus" at all. They, like all of us, have sinned and will therefore pay the price (the second death, aka Hell) unless they find a SUBSTITUTE. God made all of us, HE can decide what HE wants to do with HIS Creation, and that includes judging and punishing them for disobedience.
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Written perfectly!

Jesus took our sins and died for them as a sacrifice so that us wicked people - if we only ask for forgiveness and accept him - can be redeemed!
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Simple souls need religion. Eventually they graduate from the stranglehold of churches.
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Funny how the biggest complaint from the non religious about the religious is that they are judgemental....

Yet....most non religious peoples posts here are judgemental of the religious.

Too many people on their high horse around here.
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He\she is not judging he\she is just being realist, but yea truth hurts more often than not.
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This guy I used to know told me only Christians got into heaven-everyone else goes to hell. I asked him about people that were born in other countries where everyone is Muslim or Hindu or whatever. He said they were all going to hell. I asked him about tribal people who had never heard of Christianity. Same thing-burning in hell.

I believe in God. I am not religious though. I don't understand how people can believe they are right but everyone else who ever lived are wrong.

I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand.
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he was wrong..in what he said..everyone has a chance to get into Heaven..because of the sacrifice Jesus Christ made for us all!!! Almost everyone on this planet knows about Jesus Christ and what he has done.. It is up to them to accept the FREE gift of Salvation that has been given to us through his sacrifice... #LPRF

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Do you have eyes to see, ears to hear and a heart to understand? JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY WAY to SALVATION, DELIVERANCE and PEACE! Soon his grace will be taken from the earth and his WRATH will be poured out. Accept JESUS CHRIST while the GRACE of GOD is still available. May the Peace of God be with you! Love, Pray, Repent and Forgive.
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exactly,

if you are born in a muslim country where everyone is muslim,

well your familly is gonna make their children be muslim.

all their familly, friends, strangers, and society and CULTURE are all the same religion.


if you want to alienate your self from society and thereby shaming yourself and parents based on not " CONFORMING" to your religion,

then you are gonna get it ! some kind of punishment: physical , mental, etc.



Christians also tend to try to have their kids to pressure or teach their kids to join their religion.

I mean childhood indoctrination beings at ages 2+. Again if all your family , and immediate family are all the same religion and are all devout, you conform or be labeled an outcast.

if you raised in love, sometimes you will accept the relligion because you were born in loving family, so it must be right since u have no troubles in life.

good in america it's diverse and we have freedom of religion where we dont have to join ouro parent's religion.

unless they make u until u are 18. where your partens may force u until u move out. and good luck to that in today's economy.

ok i make tons of generalizations... but you can discern what more liekkly is possible.
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Firstly, you are presuming a lot things. For example, Jesus and the disciples were JEWISH and born in ISRAEL and they were CHRISTIANS.
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Straight from the book:

Unbelief and Its Consequences

Romans 1

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,19 because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.21 For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.



AND since we all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God... we need Jesus as our savior.
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41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels,......
Matthew 13:40-41

Michael, ye err for ye know not the Scriptures
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Trouble is, who exactly wrote "Matthew"?

"The content of "M" suggests that this community was stricter than the others in its attitude to keeping the Jewish law, holding that they must exceed the scribes and the Pharisees in "righteousness" (adherence to Jewish law); and of the three only "M" refers to a "church" (ecclesia), an organised group with rules for keeping order."



Two things:

(39) Jesus said, "The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves."


(6) His disciples questioned him and said to him, "Do you want us to fast? How shall we pray? Shall we give alms? What diet shall we observe?"
Jesus said, "Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered."


Jesus didn't lay down many "rules" and he didn't make wild claims about coming back to lay waste to the Earth.

He said if you follow his words, you will "enter the kingdom". Simple.
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Simple souls need religion. Eventually they graduate from the stranglehold of churches.
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Simple souls are religious!

You know, that, what normal people understand under religion, that is the connection of some people out of past, who did have relation to the transcendence. When you are not transcendent, how will you get contact to it? Only by occasion. So, easier is to be close to that memories, written on papyrus aso., you can study!

So, religion is a simple individual experience with the transcendence - and that is nothing new!
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This guy I used to know told me only Christians got into heaven-everyone else goes to hell. I asked him about people that were born in other countries where everyone is Muslim or Hindu or whatever. He said they were all going to hell. I asked him about tribal people who had never heard of Christianity. Same thing-burning in hell.

I believe in God. I am not religious though. I don't understand how people can believe they are right but everyone else who ever lived are wrong.

I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2364968


The fact is, EVERYBODY goes to hell when they die.

And there's nothing unusual about this.

Hell has been made to be this horrible place through folklore but not scripture.

I have to disagree with your geographical idea in your heading as we would be blown away by how many millions of people profess Jesus Christ in China.
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Read John Chapter 6.
God the Father has a lot to do with real salvation.
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Simple souls need religion. Eventually they graduate from the stranglehold of churches.
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Funny how the biggest complaint from the non religious about the religious is that they are judgemental....

Yet....most non religious peoples posts here are judgemental of the religious.

Too many people on their high horse around here.
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No judgement. Just truth.

I could care less what other people think. Already heard it all. I am my own priest. I am my own leader.
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People convert/change religions all the time. It doesn't matter what your parents religion is or where you are born. There are some in the deep south who convert Muslim. And there are many in the middle east who were once Muslim who convert to Christianity. And this happens in other countries and other religions as well.
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Here's a joke that a Catholic priest told me a few years ago...

A man dies and goes to Heaven where he's met by Peter and told he can go anywhere and do anything.

As Peter is showing him around they come across a very high wall so the man asks what's over there? Peter tells the man to ignore it and just look at all the wonderful places he can explore now.

They continue walking and the man can't believe how beautiful and peaceful everywhere is but he can't get the high wall out of his mind so he asks again and gets the same reply.

The man persists with asking what's behind the wall and reminds Peter that he said he could go anywhere and do anything now he was in Heaven.

Peter gives a sigh and says "You can go anywhere you like but not over the wall because that's where we keep the Catholics and they think they're the only ones up here"

Brilliantly told to me and my husband by my local priest because my husband is not Catholic. The priest retired a few years ago but we still love that joke. He was a fantastic priest - not fanatical about Catholicism at all but quite willing to answer any 'tricky' questions anyone asked. Wonderful personality and so warm and friendly. A true man of Faith rather than banging people over the head with Catholicism. He believed different religions weren't a problem to God because ultimately all religions lead to God anyway. We all just have different ways of getting there.

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Yes, we realize this. But..we weren't, and we aren't. One word - predestination.
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BRAINWASH, BRAINWASH!!! RELIGION IS ALL BRAINWASH!! :)
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Simple souls need religion. Eventually they graduate from the stranglehold of churches.
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Funny how the biggest complaint from the non religious about the religious is that they are judgemental....

Yet....most non religious peoples posts here are judgemental of the religious.

Too many people on their high horse around here.
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I have found liberals to be the most intolerant even though they profess to be the opposite.
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This guy I used to know told me only Christians got into heaven-everyone else goes to hell. I asked him about people that were born in other countries where everyone is Muslim or Hindu or whatever. He said they were all going to hell. I asked him about tribal people who had never heard of Christianity. Same thing-burning in hell.

I believe in God. I am not religious though. I don't understand how people can believe they are right but everyone else who ever lived are wrong.

I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2364968


he was wrong..in what he said..everyone has a chance to get into Heaven..because of the sacrifice Jesus Christ made for us all!!! Almost everyone on this planet knows about Jesus Christ and what he has done.. It is up to them to accept the FREE gift of Salvation that has been given to us through his sacrifice... #LPRF
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Except you left out the part about the fact that NOBODY would accept the free gift of salvation with out God intervening. Romans makes that perfectly clear.
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lol

one simple post, exposing the idiocy of ALL religions

rofl
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No - not at all. I am saying that God was in control of my life even before I was born, and that he placed me here to be a believer in this place. He put my soul here and He made my faith possible.

If He had made me to be born in SA, and born into an muslim family, I would have been a muslim. Conversion is always a possibility, however.

This is where the idea "there but by the grace of God go I" idea comes from.

You might want to study some of the writing of John Calvin.
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so you have such a massive ego that not only did you pick the right religion, but god placed you in a position to make sure you picked the right religion by putting your birthplace in a most favorable location? geez, the arrogance.
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He clearly stated "God was in control of my life even before I was born". Not seeing the massive ego or arrogance at all in that statement.
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I see a massive victim. A person that is not in control of himself. That stopped thinking. A sheeples that thinks there is a spirit that manages his life. Poor, poor , poor.

“The people are God. One could also say “a part of God”. A personified God with long beard or sitting on a cloud does not exist.” (Jesus Christ; 97 05 13)

„There is no God, who punishes. God, the original substance of existence is pure love. Humans are responsible for themselves what happens to them. They create their future.
(Jesus Christ; 97 12 01)
 Quoting: Stefan Parlow


Ha, ha.

I have a Master's Degree in Business, and a B.A. in Humanities, AND I come to GLP. I am not really the victim type.

I may be one of the sheep (below) but I AM NOT one of the sheeple.

Matthew 10

16 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.17 “But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you in their synagogues;18 and you will even be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles.19 “But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say.20 “For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you.
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Re: Do religious people understand that if they were born in another country-then they would probably be a different religion?
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.

Doesn't matter who or where you are, if you believe in Him you will be with Him in heaven.

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Re: Do religious people understand that if they were born in another country-then they would probably be a different religion?
exactly,

if you are born in a muslim country where everyone is muslim,

well your familly is gonna make their children be muslim.

all their familly, friends, strangers, and society and CULTURE are all the same religion.


if you want to alienate your self from society and thereby shaming yourself and parents based on not " CONFORMING" to your religion,

then you are gonna get it ! some kind of punishment: physical , mental, etc.



Christians also tend to try to have their kids to pressure or teach their kids to join their religion.

I mean childhood indoctrination beings at ages 2+. Again if all your family , and immediate family are all the same religion and are all devout, you conform or be labeled an outcast.

if you raised in love, sometimes you will accept the relligion because you were born in loving family, so it must be right since u have no troubles in life.

good in america it's diverse and we have freedom of religion where we dont have to join ouro parent's religion.

unless they make u until u are 18. where your partens may force u until u move out. and good luck to that in today's economy.

ok i make tons of generalizations... but you can discern what more liekkly is possible.
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Firstly, you are presuming a lot things. For example, Jesus and the disciples were JEWISH and born in ISRAEL and they were CHRISTIANS.
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I'm talking about the hardcore muslim countries where the government is almost like a theocracy, even though they aren/'t, and their leader is muslim.

They aren't bad but keep in mind you tend to want not to outcast your self in that culture espeically if you are a woman, else.. welll u can research the rights of women in some of those countries.. not all but some.

every kid, is "indoctrinated" to some extent, by their parents and religious teachers at the young age.

but not all, and some people are lucky to choose their religion as an adult or is able to convert after using critical thinking.....

the point is i understnd what OP is saying. and i tried to make a generalized scenario where it highly possible, and that these circumstances do exists, but hardly in America due to freedom of religion, and other non theocratic like countries in teh world.

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