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The masons have found proof of the existence of god and of the world we cannot see. God left proof in symbols that masons consider sacred. If you follow the symbols you can greatly improve your understanding of God, your spirituality, and the universe we live in.

Masons do you have secrets, but when they tell you there are no secrets that is also true because they can be found from anyone that wants to find them. The secrets are veiled behind symbols and in some cases MANY layers deep! They are secrets only because you have to be determined enough to dig through the layers. The layers are meant to keep out those that are not meant or ready to see. If you’re not ready you won’t get through all the layers.

Masons will not tell you what they know because they may not know themselves and the ones that do know realize that everyone is on their own spiritual path and it is wrong to influence those that are not spiritually ready. The path is not easy because it takes allot of diligence and work, but if you really want to find the truth you can find it! I don’t know everything, but I have studied enough to have a fair understanding.

One key aspect that most people get hung up on when trying to decode the symbols of Freemasonry is Duality. You will find sites all over the net believing that have successfully decoded our symbols revealing the deeper secrets of Freemasonry, but almost all of them have failed!!

Why? Because their own religious dogma has prevented them from reaching understanding. They will not be able to go further because their own religious viewpoint is keeping them from doing so. They are not ready to see so they cannot!



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Those who speak, do not know.
Those who know, do not speak.
QED
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And it is so because you spoke. and some may take it as "if i dont speak well then i will know." and this is not always true.
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Freemason Pedo's

"The Franklin Scandal

The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The ring’s pimps were a pair of political powerbrokers who had access to the highest levels of our government. Nebraska legislators nearly exposed the ring in 1990, but its unveiling had the potential to produce seismic political aftershocks.The legislators' efforts resulted in rash of mysterious deaths and the overpowering corruption of federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI, Secret Service, and Justice Department, effecting an immaculate cover-up of the trafficking network."

Paul Bernardo Freemason


"Grand Lodge of Ontario, Canada Master Mason, Serial Killer, and Serial Rapist Paul Bernardo
'Freemasonry takes good men and makes them better'

At one point Bernardo was on the top of the Police Department's suspect list when he was terrorizing women in the Toronto suburb of Scarborough with his years long rape spree.

Police strangely never completed his D.N.A. test until three years later when contacted by Niagara Police detectives, even though premliminary tests had showed he was one of the only five out of several hundred suspects who whose blood type had fit the initial screening test done from semen samples collected from the victims. When his DNA test was finally done it was a perfect match!

Unfortunately by then Bernardo had graduated to his grisley rape-mutilation killing rampage with his depraved wife Karla Holmolka.

There are so many inexplicable oversights in the police investigation related to Bernardo including specific repeated complaints by some of Bernardo's former girlfriends that police discounted because after the initial interviewing of Bernardo they said he didn't seem like a serial rapist. Furthermore the witness i.d. sketch made of Bernardo, which was an exact likeness of him, was not released by Police for years after the rapes had started.

Did some members of Bernardo's Masonic Lodge who were also members of the Metropolitan Toronto Police recognize the likeness portrayed in the artist's sketch of the Scarborough Rapist?

Did the large Police Officer Masonic Lodge Membership cloud some Detectives judgement about 'Brother' Bernardo's suitability as a suspect? How many Scarborough Police Officers were members of Scarborough Rapist Paul Bernardo's Scarborough Masonic Lodge?

Did the intelligent, cunning, and manipulative Bernardo invoke his 'Masonic Cable Tow' and 'Sign of Distress' to escape arrest, or sideline the investigation?

Is Freemasonry the missing piece to the puzzle of how the Police could have failed for so long to stop Bernardo, including the ignoring of repeated tips about him, that has raised so many questions in the public's mind?

Just ask the famed British Brinks Mat gold bullion criminal Kenneth Noye. He intentionally joined a Masonic lodge filled with police officers to give him the extra "edge" he needed."

Shall i go on? because the list is ENDLESS
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Great examples. I also believe that the Penn State pedo scandal and decades long cover-up & connections to a charity are connected to high level masons. Their secrecy and "brotherhood" is what enabled these horrific crimes against children to go on for so long. They all covered up and kept the secrets for their brothers. If there were still truly journalists these days who were not owned by a news corporation, this info. might be found.
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Freemason Pedo's

True SecondPrecession, but that reality exists in any organization or Government. There is the potential for inside or secret groups to always form in any organization. People with like minds will always get together. But we try to only let potential members in that have high ideals to protect from that.

Our fraternity has a credo though "to make good men better" and help our local community.

Last year our lodge raised over $80,000 for local charities. I feel pretty good about that. : )


It needs to be understood that the danger in Freemasonry and any secret society is the inherent ability for secret groups WITHIN those societies to form, in secrecy.




The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
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The anagram that is your name is interesting.
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Freemason Pedo's

True SecondPrecession, but that reality exists in any organization or Government. There is the potential for inside or secret groups to always form in any organization. People with like minds will always get together. But we try to only let potential members in that have high ideals to protect from that.

Our fraternity has a credo though "to make good men better" and help our local community.

Last year our lodge raised over $80,000 for local charities. I feel pretty good about that. : )


It needs to be understood that the danger in Freemasonry and any secret society is the inherent ability for secret groups WITHIN those societies to form, in secrecy.


The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
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 Quoting: SecondPrecession


sorry my last post got messed up so i am re-posting. : )

True SecondPrecession, but that reality exists in any organization or Government. There is the potential for inside or secret groups to always form in any organization. People with like minds will always get together. But we try to only let potential members in that have high ideals to protect from that.

Our fraternity has a credo though "to make good men better" and help our local community.

Last year our lodge raised over $80,000 for local charities. I feel pretty good about that. : )


It needs to be understood that the danger in Freemasonry and any secret society is the inherent ability for secret groups WITHIN those societies to form, in secrecy.
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The anagram that is your name is interesting.
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He jazzing you.
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Freemason Pedo's

True SecondPrecession, but that reality exists in any organization or Government. There is the potential for inside or secret groups to always form in any organization. People with like minds will always get together. But we try to only let potential members in that have high ideals to protect from that.

Our fraternity has a credo though "to make good men better" and help our local community.

Last year our lodge raised over $80,000 for local charities. I feel pretty good about that. : )


It needs to be understood that the danger in Freemasonry and any secret society is the inherent ability for secret groups WITHIN those societies to form, in secrecy.


The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389794

 Quoting: SecondPrecession


sorry my last post got messed up so i am re-posting. : )

True SecondPrecession, but that reality exists in any organization or Government. There is the potential for inside or secret groups to always form in any organization. People with like minds will always get together. But we try to only let potential members in that have high ideals to protect from that.

Our fraternity has a credo though "to make good men better" and help our local community.

Last year our lodge raised over $80,000 for local charities. I feel pretty good about that. : )

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wow i screwed it up again. I guess i dont really have to say I am not perfect. LOL oh well. I think everyone got what I was trying to say...sorry
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the real secret of masonry is that you get it up the butt in their rituals and it's in a pitch black room, by lots of Masons, you cannot identify.

Most of these people are so traumatized they may not even be aware or remember it, but they now have been impregnated by Satan's being, and are controlled subconsciously.

I have talked to Satan through these people, the entity resides in their mind, controls them, Satan will talk to you through them, and they have no memory, no awareness the are possessed, or that Satan is using their body.
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Freemason Pedo's

True SecondPrecession, but that reality exists in any organization or Government. There is the potential for inside or secret groups to always form in any organization. People with like minds will always get together. But we try to only let potential members in that have high ideals to protect from that.

Our fraternity has a credo though "to make good men better" and help our local community.

Last year our lodge raised over $80,000 for local charities. I feel pretty good about that. : )


It needs to be understood that the danger in Freemasonry and any secret society is the inherent ability for secret groups WITHIN those societies to form, in secrecy.




The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389794

 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Well, when you start to parse out that these people are studying HOW to pull something from darkness into light (something from nothing), it becomes critical to remember that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It is as you said--secret societies form among any organization. But an organization BASED upon secrecy from the lowest level of initiation provides for a unique structuring. This is how something bad came of something that was initially beautifully and wondrously formed--the flaw was inherent in the design.

A secret group among the ancient mystery schools decided that what was once known to most all of humanity--was theirs only to covet. And since then, they have been hiding from us what our ancestors knew and discovered. In fact, this small group of secret-keepers among the secret societies went to great measures to wipe away our history and re-write it. This is how we find ourselves as we are--ignorant of the knowledge of Self and humanity.

It is true science. They can keep pantomiming the magic, but they cannot wipe the blood of our ancestors from the earth.

We will inherit it all.
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The anagram that is your name is interesting.
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I thought only a MASON would catch that. Congrats!! Well done!! : ) The meaning is two-fold actually.

Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine

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An Anagram for....A MASON
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the real secret of masonry is that you get it up the butt in their rituals and it's in a pitch black room, by lots of Masons, you cannot identify.

Most of these people are so traumatized they may not even be aware or remember it, but they now have been impregnated by Satan's being, and are controlled subconsciously.

I have talked to Satan through these people, the entity resides in their mind, controls them, Satan will talk to you through them, and they have no memory, no awareness the are possessed, or that Satan is using their body.
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It is not Satan--it is the possession of a space within the subconscious. Information is put there for whatever purpose that the programmers see necessary.

Trance is their method of delivery.
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Freemason Pedo's

"The Franklin Scandal

The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The ring’s pimps were a pair of political powerbrokers who had access to the highest levels of our government. Nebraska legislators nearly exposed the ring in 1990, but its unveiling had the potential to produce seismic political aftershocks.The legislators' efforts resulted in rash of mysterious deaths and the overpowering corruption of federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI, Secret Service, and Justice Department, effecting an immaculate cover-up of the trafficking network."

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:boafresco: blackcat Speaking of which the

youth in the type of mac that pedos often wear looks like he's one in training. This fresco is at the Bank of America HQ.
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so.....What's Spiritual about the freemasons?

Yes, everyone here are at or above their level, so please tell us the answer to the question. ty
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Since you chose to ignore my question, I'll answer for You:

There's nothing Spiritual about the freemasons(~).

so much for your "secrets" too(~)burnit
We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.

I forgive myself, I Love myself, I'm sorry, Please forgive me, I forgive you, I love you, Thank you.

God Bless You;
I Bless You;
Bless Yourself(~).

Love is the answer ~ Peace be with You.
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The anagram that is your name is interesting.
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I thought only a MASON would catch that. Congrats!! Well done!! : ) The meaning is two-fold actually.

Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine

AND

An Anagram for....A MASON
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Sweet, decades of addiction to Word Scrambles has finally paid off. lol

Masons miss out on SO much by disallowing women. Have you ever considered why?

I will tell you this--the original Mystery is woman.
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You know how you can tell a low level, know-nothing Mason from the real deal?

They post horseshit laden threads like this on a conspiracy forum.

It was said (er..written) perfectly earlier...
Those who speak, do not know.
Those who know, do not speak.
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The anagram that is your name is interesting.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I thought only a MASON would catch that. Congrats!! Well done!! : ) The meaning is two-fold actually.

Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine

AND

An Anagram for....A MASON
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Sweet, decades of addiction to Word Scrambles has finally paid off. lol

Masons miss out on SO much by disallowing women. Have you ever considered why?

I will tell you this--the original Mystery is woman.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Well, there is OES. Also Rainbow Girls for young ladies.
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The anagram that is your name is interesting.
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I thought only a MASON would catch that. Congrats!! Well done!! : ) The meaning is two-fold actually.

Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine

AND

An Anagram for....A MASON
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Sweet, decades of addiction to Word Scrambles has finally paid off. lol

Masons miss out on SO much by disallowing women. Have you ever considered why?

I will tell you this--the original Mystery is woman.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Well, there is OES. Also Rainbow Girls for young ladies.
 Quoting: anomalous coward 7057222


OES is a poor consolation prize.

I have no desire to join any secret society, for I keep the company of my own.
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Freemason Pedo's

True SecondPrecession, but that reality exists in any organization or Government. There is the potential for inside or secret groups to always form in any organization. People with like minds will always get together. But we try to only let potential members in that have high ideals to protect from that.

Our fraternity has a credo though "to make good men better" and help our local community.

Last year our lodge raised over $80,000 for local charities. I feel pretty good about that. : )


It needs to be understood that the danger in Freemasonry and any secret society is the inherent ability for secret groups WITHIN those societies to form, in secrecy.




The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389794

 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Well, when you start to parse out that these people are studying HOW to pull something from darkness into light (something from nothing), it becomes critical to remember that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It is as you said--secret societies form among any organization. But an organization BASED upon secrecy from the lowest level of initiation provides for a unique structuring. This is how something bad came of something that was initially beautifully and wondrously formed--the flaw was inherent in the design.

A secret group among the ancient mystery schools decided that what was once known to most all of humanity--was theirs only to covet. And since then, they have been hiding from us what our ancestors knew and discovered. In fact, this small group of secret-keepers among the secret societies went to great measures to wipe away our history and re-write it. This is how we find ourselves as we are--ignorant of the knowledge of Self and humanity.

It is true science. They can keep pantomiming the magic, but they cannot wipe the blood of our ancestors from the earth.

We will inherit it all.
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I actually agree with you SecondPrecession. It doesn't need to be so secretive. But there are some reasons why it still remains this way and one the biggest one stems from the persecution of the Knight Templar's over 700 years ago.

Friday the 13th and the Knights Templar
The order of the Knights Templar is synonymous with the crusades of the Middle Ages. This section of the Middle Ages details the emergence of the Religious knights, their achievements, accomplishments and their decline on Friday the 13th, in October 1307 when Jacques de Molay, the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, and 60 of his senior knights were arrested in Paris. This day is remembered in history - it is the reason Friday 13th is deemed to be unlucky.

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So after that to the Knights Templar the remaining members went underground and held their meetings in highly secretive fashion for fear of their lives.

One of the reasons the Masons still meet this is because of tradition. And it might be one that should be changed.

Masons OFFICIALLY have a history of only 300 years but it definitely goes much further back and there is a strong connection to the original Templar's.
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The anagram that is your name is interesting.
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I thought only a MASON would catch that. Congrats!! Well done!! : ) The meaning is two-fold actually.

Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine

AND

An Anagram for....A MASON
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Sweet, decades of addiction to Word Scrambles has finally paid off. lol

Masons miss out on SO much by disallowing women. Have you ever considered why?

I will tell you this--the original Mystery is woman.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Actually in France women can be Masons as well as men. I believe women should be allowed to be part of the Fraternity as well as I believe it would benefit all. But I have taken oaths to not let them so its sort of a Paradox for me. Maybe if I am ever GrandMaster I could change it for my state.
However then we would likely be looked at as a clandestine and other states would treat us that way. Its hard to change a institution so filled with tradition. Its a double edged sword. Good and bad.
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Well, when you start to parse out that these people are studying HOW to pull something from darkness into light (something from nothing), it becomes critical to remember that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It is as you said--secret societies form among any organization. But an organization BASED upon secrecy from the lowest level of initiation provides for a unique structuring. This is how something bad came of something that was initially beautifully and wondrously formed--the flaw was inherent in the design.

A secret group among the ancient mystery schools decided that what was once known to most all of humanity--was theirs only to covet. And since then, they have been hiding from us what our ancestors knew and discovered. In fact, this small group of secret-keepers among the secret societies went to great measures to wipe away our history and re-write it. This is how we find ourselves as we are--ignorant of the knowledge of Self and humanity.

It is true science. They can keep pantomiming the magic, but they cannot wipe the blood of our ancestors from the earth.

We will inherit it all.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


I actually agree with you SecondPrecession. It doesn't need to be so secretive. But there are some reasons why it still remains this way and one the biggest one stems from the persecution of the Knight Templar's over 700 years ago.

Friday the 13th and the Knights Templar
The order of the Knights Templar is synonymous with the crusades of the Middle Ages. This section of the Middle Ages details the emergence of the Religious knights, their achievements, accomplishments and their decline on Friday the 13th, in October 1307 when Jacques de Molay, the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, and 60 of his senior knights were arrested in Paris. This day is remembered in history - it is the reason Friday 13th is deemed to be unlucky.

--------------

So after that to the Knights Templar the remaining members went underground and held their meetings in highly secretive fashion for fear of their lives.

One of the reasons the Masons still meet this is because of tradition. And it might be one that should be changed.

Masons OFFICIALLY have a history of only 300 years but it definitely goes much further back and there is a strong connection to the original Templar's.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I am afraid it goes back alot further than that--prior to Egypt in fact.

It was a secret group of elite among the society that murdered the Templars--their own brothers. Secrecy has been there from the beginning ,it did not originate with the slaughter of the Templars.

The ultimate conspiracy.
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I thought only a MASON would catch that. Congrats!! Well done!! : ) The meaning is two-fold actually.

Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine

AND

An Anagram for....A MASON
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Sweet, decades of addiction to Word Scrambles has finally paid off. lol

Masons miss out on SO much by disallowing women. Have you ever considered why?

I will tell you this--the original Mystery is woman.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Well, there is OES. Also Rainbow Girls for young ladies.
 Quoting: anomalous coward 7057222


OES is a poor consolation prize.

I have no desire to join any secret society, for I keep the company of my own.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Secret Society isn't for everyone. My reasons for joining are likely very different from most people. And I think you are doing great on your own and im very impressed with your current thread.
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Well, when you start to parse out that these people are studying HOW to pull something from darkness into light (something from nothing), it becomes critical to remember that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

It is as you said--secret societies form among any organization. But an organization BASED upon secrecy from the lowest level of initiation provides for a unique structuring. This is how something bad came of something that was initially beautifully and wondrously formed--the flaw was inherent in the design.

A secret group among the ancient mystery schools decided that what was once known to most all of humanity--was theirs only to covet. And since then, they have been hiding from us what our ancestors knew and discovered. In fact, this small group of secret-keepers among the secret societies went to great measures to wipe away our history and re-write it. This is how we find ourselves as we are--ignorant of the knowledge of Self and humanity.

It is true science. They can keep pantomiming the magic, but they cannot wipe the blood of our ancestors from the earth.

We will inherit it all.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


I actually agree with you SecondPrecession. It doesn't need to be so secretive. But there are some reasons why it still remains this way and one the biggest one stems from the persecution of the Knight Templar's over 700 years ago.

Friday the 13th and the Knights Templar
The order of the Knights Templar is synonymous with the crusades of the Middle Ages. This section of the Middle Ages details the emergence of the Religious knights, their achievements, accomplishments and their decline on Friday the 13th, in October 1307 when Jacques de Molay, the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, and 60 of his senior knights were arrested in Paris. This day is remembered in history - it is the reason Friday 13th is deemed to be unlucky.

--------------

So after that to the Knights Templar the remaining members went underground and held their meetings in highly secretive fashion for fear of their lives.

One of the reasons the Masons still meet this is because of tradition. And it might be one that should be changed.

Masons OFFICIALLY have a history of only 300 years but it definitely goes much further back and there is a strong connection to the original Templar's.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I am afraid it goes back alot further than that--prior to Egypt in fact.

It was a secret group of elite among the society that murdered the Templars--their own brothers. Secrecy has been there from the beginning ,it did not originate with the slaughter of the Templars.

The ultimate conspiracy.
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I believe you are actually correct. I think it goes back ALLOT further back than Egypt but this is looked at as HIGHLY Speculative and Esoteric masonry by most. : )
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Sweet, decades of addiction to Word Scrambles has finally paid off. lol

Masons miss out on SO much by disallowing women. Have you ever considered why?

I will tell you this--the original Mystery is woman.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Well, there is OES. Also Rainbow Girls for young ladies.
 Quoting: anomalous coward 7057222


OES is a poor consolation prize.

I have no desire to join any secret society, for I keep the company of my own.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Secret Society isn't for everyone. My reasons for joining are likely very different from most people. And I think you are doing great on your own and im very impressed with your current thread.
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It is only the tip of the iceberg.

Stay safe.

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The mason's god is Baphomet.

Anyone over 30 knows this truth to be evident.
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01/16/2012 05:03 PM

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I actually agree with you SecondPrecession. It doesn't need to be so secretive. But there are some reasons why it still remains this way and one the biggest one stems from the persecution of the Knight Templar's over 700 years ago.

Friday the 13th and the Knights Templar
The order of the Knights Templar is synonymous with the crusades of the Middle Ages. This section of the Middle Ages details the emergence of the Religious knights, their achievements, accomplishments and their decline on Friday the 13th, in October 1307 when Jacques de Molay, the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, and 60 of his senior knights were arrested in Paris. This day is remembered in history - it is the reason Friday 13th is deemed to be unlucky.

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So after that to the Knights Templar the remaining members went underground and held their meetings in highly secretive fashion for fear of their lives.

One of the reasons the Masons still meet this is because of tradition. And it might be one that should be changed.

Masons OFFICIALLY have a history of only 300 years but it definitely goes much further back and there is a strong connection to the original Templar's.
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I am afraid it goes back alot further than that--prior to Egypt in fact.

It was a secret group of elite among the society that murdered the Templars--their own brothers. Secrecy has been there from the beginning ,it did not originate with the slaughter of the Templars.

The ultimate conspiracy.
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I believe you are actually correct. I think it goes back ALLOT further back than Egypt but this is looked at as HIGHLY Speculative and Esoteric masonry by most. : )
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You will always be discouraged to look further than what is being shown.

I've told you--the Mystery is woman. For how else do you make something from the light, unless there was first darkness? The light is nothing without the darkness through which it travels.


Weaving spiders make the web.
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01/16/2012 05:10 PM

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When I was in a mania once all those symbols and a bunch of Bible stories all seemed connected to the right and left brain.

I can't quite remember everything I was thinking at the time, but I remember making all these connections in my mind and realizing how important the right and left sides of our brains are.
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When I was in a mania once all those symbols and a bunch of Bible stories all seemed connected to the right and left brain.

I can't quite remember everything I was thinking at the time, but I remember making all these connections in my mind and realizing how important the right and left sides of our brains are.
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I posted a thread about this.

I won't link it again as I don't wish to self-promote in OP's thread.

It is on the previous page of this thread if you're interested.

hf
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01/16/2012 05:18 PM
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I am afraid it goes back alot further than that--prior to Egypt in fact.

It was a secret group of elite among the society that murdered the Templars--their own brothers. Secrecy has been there from the beginning ,it did not originate with the slaughter of the Templars.

The ultimate conspiracy.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


I believe you are actually correct. I think it goes back ALLOT further back than Egypt but this is looked at as HIGHLY Speculative and Esoteric masonry by most. : )
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You will always be discouraged to look further than what is being shown.

I've told you--the Mystery is woman. For how else do you make something from the light, unless there was first darkness? The light is nothing without the darkness through which it travels.


Weaving spiders make the web.
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Its not that anyone discourages to look further than what is being shown. In our lodge its quite the opposite, we are encouraged to dig deeper. The problem is that things start to become speculative when you go so far back that there isn't any hard core evidence to support so then it becomes somewhat a matter of opinion of what really happened in history.

That being said I am guessing both you and I would agree upon the place where likely most Secret Societies really began and that place and the major City there was truly a Golden place. : )
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01/16/2012 05:19 PM
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look masons dont have the answers only a very small percentage of us on the highest level truly have the real answers and any mason on this level is far beyond any level of masonry known to most.. you still have a lot of learning to do yourself.. you may think you know yet in reality you know nothing.. i was just reading your responses and showed me the intellect and awareness you lack to be representing the real masons.. sorry to burst your bubble bud but you definitely are out of the loop even though you may consider yourself in it.. i know you feel you have alot to teach and show but your help is only for those in the lowest level of reality.. in truth the level of awareness you have really isnt worth anything to anyone and almost not even yourself unless you manage to become someday.. its not all about reading and understanding what is written for all the truest revelations and answers come from within.. its good to have enthusiasm but dont get it twisted for beyond your limited perception there is a big bad world out there and what you think you may know you really have no clue about at the end of the day ;) do the hard work and make it to the other side if you can, but until you can get there focus on yourself and find your own truth.. as i said you really arnt as aware as you think you may be so drop the ego and know your place ;)
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When I was in a mania once all those symbols and a bunch of Bible stories all seemed connected to the right and left brain.

I can't quite remember everything I was thinking at the time, but I remember making all these connections in my mind and realizing how important the right and left sides of our brains are.
 Quoting: ChemicalEngineer


I posted a thread about this.

I won't link it again as I don't wish to self-promote in OP's thread.

It is on the previous page of this thread if you're interested.

hf
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Its ok SecondPrecession. Post or direct whatever you want as this thread simply exists to try to help people as does the information I know you provide. : )

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