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The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!

 
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I believe you are actually correct. I think it goes back ALLOT further back than Egypt but this is looked at as HIGHLY Speculative and Esoteric masonry by most. : )
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You will always be discouraged to look further than what is being shown.

I've told you--the Mystery is woman. For how else do you make something from the light, unless there was first darkness? The light is nothing without the darkness through which it travels.


Weaving spiders make the web.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Its not that anyone discourages to look further than what is being shown. In our lodge its quite the opposite, we are encouraged to dig deeper. The problem is that things start to become speculative when you go so far back that there isn't any hard core evidence to support so then it becomes somewhat a matter of opinion of what really happened in history.

That being said I am guessing both you and I would agree upon the place where likely most Secret Societies really began and that place and the major City there was truly a Golden place. : )
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I don't search for absolutes.

VAST amounts of evidence have been left behind by the ancient Egyptians.

Some of this evidence survives with the indigenous peoples of Africa--the Yorubas, the Dogon.

If members of an elite secret group MURDERED their own brothers within that society in order to HIDE the knowledge and wipe it away from all humanity, then I would not want to learn from those members or be under their tutelage. These same elite members created religion--what do you think they have created for lower-level initiates?

There is a better way.
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look masons dont have the answers only a very small percentage of us on the highest level truly have the real answers and any mason on this level is far beyond any level of masonry known to most.. you still have a lot of learning to do yourself.. you may think you know yet in reality you know nothing.. i was just reading your responses and showed me the intellect and awareness you lack to be representing the real masons.. sorry to burst your bubble bud but you definitely are out of the loop even though you may consider yourself in it.. i know you feel you have alot to teach and show but your help is only for those in the lowest level of reality.. in truth the level of awareness you have really isnt worth anything to anyone and almost not even yourself unless you manage to become someday.. its not all about reading and understanding what is written for all the truest revelations and answers come from within.. its good to have enthusiasm but dont get it twisted for beyond your limited perception there is a big bad world out there and what you think you may know you really have no clue about at the end of the day ;) do the hard work and make it to the other side if you can, but until you can get there focus on yourself and find your own truth.. as i said you really arnt as aware as you think you may be so drop the ego and know your place ;)
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I have ALLOT left to learn and will spend my life time doing so. I don't know everything nor do I claim to. Nor do I claim to be at the highest level of knowledge. A person could spend a lifetime diligently learning Masonry and hardly know anything. I know there are many with much more knowledge that I have. But I try to help people the best I can with what I know, and at the same time not breaking my oaths.
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What is needed to take down the masons is secret infiltration.

Which would require some people with the same knowledge as the highest masters.

And it may take generations.

It would be nearly impossible if not for the ancestors waiting in baited breath to unearth.
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Freemason Pedo's

"The Franklin Scandal

The FRANKLIN SCANDAL is the story of a nationwide pedophile ring that pandered children to a cabal of the rich and powerful. The ring’s pimps were a pair of political powerbrokers who had access to the highest levels of our government. Nebraska legislators nearly exposed the ring in 1990, but its unveiling had the potential to produce seismic political aftershocks.The legislators' efforts resulted in rash of mysterious deaths and the overpowering corruption of federal and local law enforcement, including the FBI, Secret Service, and Justice Department, effecting an immaculate cover-up of the trafficking network."

Paul Bernardo Freemason


"Grand Lodge of Ontario, Canada Master Mason, Serial Killer, and Serial Rapist Paul Bernardo
'Freemasonry takes good men and makes them better'

At one point Bernardo was on the top of the Police Department's suspect list when he was terrorizing women in the Toronto suburb of Scarborough with his years long rape spree.

Police strangely never completed his D.N.A. test until three years later when contacted by Niagara Police detectives, even though premliminary tests had showed he was one of the only five out of several hundred suspects who whose blood type had fit the initial screening test done from semen samples collected from the victims. When his DNA test was finally done it was a perfect match!

Unfortunately by then Bernardo had graduated to his grisley rape-mutilation killing rampage with his depraved wife Karla Holmolka.

There are so many inexplicable oversights in the police investigation related to Bernardo including specific repeated complaints by some of Bernardo's former girlfriends that police discounted because after the initial interviewing of Bernardo they said he didn't seem like a serial rapist. Furthermore the witness i.d. sketch made of Bernardo, which was an exact likeness of him, was not released by Police for years after the rapes had started.

Did some members of Bernardo's Masonic Lodge who were also members of the Metropolitan Toronto Police recognize the likeness portrayed in the artist's sketch of the Scarborough Rapist?

Did the large Police Officer Masonic Lodge Membership cloud some Detectives judgement about 'Brother' Bernardo's suitability as a suspect? How many Scarborough Police Officers were members of Scarborough Rapist Paul Bernardo's Scarborough Masonic Lodge?

Did the intelligent, cunning, and manipulative Bernardo invoke his 'Masonic Cable Tow' and 'Sign of Distress' to escape arrest, or sideline the investigation?

Is Freemasonry the missing piece to the puzzle of how the Police could have failed for so long to stop Bernardo, including the ignoring of repeated tips about him, that has raised so many questions in the public's mind?

Just ask the famed British Brinks Mat gold bullion criminal Kenneth Noye. He intentionally joined a Masonic lodge filled with police officers to give him the extra "edge" he needed."

Shall i go on? because the list is ENDLESS
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And this is exactly why secret societies cannot be tolerated. No-one should be above the law...no-one!
Be the change you want the World to be. Be someone that makes you happy.
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You will always be discouraged to look further than what is being shown.

I've told you--the Mystery is woman. For how else do you make something from the light, unless there was first darkness? The light is nothing without the darkness through which it travels.


Weaving spiders make the web.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Its not that anyone discourages to look further than what is being shown. In our lodge its quite the opposite, we are encouraged to dig deeper. The problem is that things start to become speculative when you go so far back that there isn't any hard core evidence to support so then it becomes somewhat a matter of opinion of what really happened in history.

That being said I am guessing both you and I would agree upon the place where likely most Secret Societies really began and that place and the major City there was truly a Golden place. : )
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I don't search for absolutes.

VAST amounts of evidence have been left behind by the ancient Egyptians.

Some of this evidence survives with the indigenous peoples of Africa--the Yorubas, the Dogon.

If members of an elite secret group MURDERED their own brothers within that society in order to HIDE the knowledge and wipe it away from all humanity, then I would not want to learn from those members or be under their tutelage. These same elite members created religion--what do you think they have created for lower-level initiates?

There is a better way.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Your right...there is no absolute place for knowledge or information. It exists from all places and all times. its a culmination. And there likely isn't just one places where secret societies began either.
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You will always be discouraged to look further than what is being shown.

I've told you--the Mystery is woman. For how else do you make something from the light, unless there was first darkness? The light is nothing without the darkness through which it travels.


Weaving spiders make the web.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Its not that anyone discourages to look further than what is being shown. In our lodge its quite the opposite, we are encouraged to dig deeper. The problem is that things start to become speculative when you go so far back that there isn't any hard core evidence to support so then it becomes somewhat a matter of opinion of what really happened in history.

That being said I am guessing both you and I would agree upon the place where likely most Secret Societies really began and that place and the major City there was truly a Golden place. : )
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I don't search for absolutes.

VAST amounts of evidence have been left behind by the ancient Egyptians.

Some of this evidence survives with the indigenous peoples of Africa--the Yorubas, the Dogon.

If members of an elite secret group MURDERED their own brothers within that society in order to HIDE the knowledge and wipe it away from all humanity, then I would not want to learn from those members or be under their tutelage. These same elite members created religion--what do you think they have created for lower-level initiates?

There is a better way.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


I am not really under anyone's tutelage. I do have sources that offer me info, but most information and understanding really I have had to find and come to for myself. There many different ways to learn and grow spiritually and all are correct depending on where you are at. This is why masonry except men from all faiths, because there isn't just one way.

I am always open for new information and truths and the experiential aspect to grow. Its the only way I know to continue to progress with my understanding.
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How many times have "real" secrets been revealed on GLP? lol
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None, at least from Freemasonry...
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I have been a researcher for many years. Before I joined the Freemasons I had researched Freemasonry for about 4 years. I had several hundred hours put in to studying the craft.

When I started to make discoveries before I was a Mason of what I felt was some pretty important information veiled deep in Masonic symbols. I went to some family members and revealed some what I had found.

Guess What??

They rejected it!! Why? They were not ready! I quickly realized that it is wrong to try to influence others that are not at a right point spiritually to understand and actually could have negative consequences to them spiritually. The Masonic oaths we take to NOT reveal the secrets are because of this!

So many people want to know what our secrets are, but the ironic thing is....when you actually reveal the deeper Masonic Secrets to someone it doesn't do any good for most people because they will just reject them anyway!

My understanding now is that Free Will is a universal law. The information is encoded for a good reason. Its to protect the Free Will of those that are not yet ready!
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Most who come to GLP and look at my posts from this thread will feel I have revealed nothing and wasted their time. Because people want to have everything easy and handed to them without working for it. But there maybe a few here on GLP that realize i am offering a bit more.

Easy is baking a cake or going to fast food restaurant. We are in a society where we now place such high value on convenience that people now sometimes go to drive through weddings! But if you do that hasn't some of the real meaning of getting married been lost?

This also is not how real spiritual progress is made. Its not meant to be easy. Its made a the individual who goes through a progression to reach new understandings. Each person has to do the work.
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Ok, I'll bite... as a Celt (spirituality) and somewhat ecclectic, I'm open minded enough to read between the lines. I actually thought about trying to join the masons to find out the real truth...good or bad...however, as a woman, I feel it would be rather pointless to bother...nonetheless, I have researched symols and other matters of the occult for years. I'm not an expert, but I know enough to find my way. So, what can a supposed mason offer to someone like me, if it goes against free will to tell the secrets?
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What is needed to take down the masons is secret infiltration.

Which would require some people with the same knowledge as the highest masters.

And it may take generations.

It would be nearly impossible if not for the ancestors waiting in baited breath to unearth.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


And anyone doing so would not be credible as they would be violating their obligation. Also, AAONMS is Ancient ACCEPTED Order Nobles of the Mystic Shrine, as ordered by Imperial.
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None, at least from Freemasonry...
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I have been a researcher for many years. Before I joined the Freemasons I had researched Freemasonry for about 4 years. I had several hundred hours put in to studying the craft.

When I started to make discoveries before I was a Mason of what I felt was some pretty important information veiled deep in Masonic symbols. I went to some family members and revealed some what I had found.

Guess What??

They rejected it!! Why? They were not ready! I quickly realized that it is wrong to try to influence others that are not at a right point spiritually to understand and actually could have negative consequences to them spiritually. The Masonic oaths we take to NOT reveal the secrets are because of this!

So many people want to know what our secrets are, but the ironic thing is....when you actually reveal the deeper Masonic Secrets to someone it doesn't do any good for most people because they will just reject them anyway!

My understanding now is that Free Will is a universal law. The information is encoded for a good reason. Its to protect the Free Will of those that are not yet ready!
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Most who come to GLP and look at my posts from this thread will feel I have revealed nothing and wasted their time. Because people want to have everything easy and handed to them without working for it. But there maybe a few here on GLP that realize i am offering a bit more.

Easy is baking a cake or going to fast food restaurant. We are in a society where we now place such high value on convenience that people now sometimes go to drive through weddings! But if you do that hasn't some of the real meaning of getting married been lost?

This also is not how real spiritual progress is made. Its not meant to be easy. Its made a the individual who goes through a progression to reach new understandings. Each person has to do the work.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Ok, I'll bite... as a Celt (spirituality) and somewhat ecclectic, I'm open minded enough to read between the lines. I actually thought about trying to join the masons to find out the real truth...good or bad...however, as a woman, I feel it would be rather pointless to bother...nonetheless, I have researched symols and other matters of the occult for years. I'm not an expert, but I know enough to find my way. So, what can a supposed mason offer to someone like me, if it goes against free will to tell the secrets?
 Quoting: Celt 8973564


I said earlier that the secrets are only secrets because they are veiled in symbol and you have to be determined to get through the layers, so you do NOT need to be a mason to reach understanding of the secrets.

But how does one start?
I wanted to know like you before I joined if the Masons were a good institution. So I began to follow the bread crumbs left behind.

If one were to start studying Music, Math, Geometry, Astronomy...etc and see how each of the sciences connect to each other, because they all dol..you will begin to reach higher levels of understanding. In the end everything is connected! The challenge to to figure out how : )

So Without decoding our symbols or allegories so i don't violate oath...here is how I began. I found that Masons consider a number of sites around the world sacred. So the question is...why?

Its no secret that Geometry is a science that Masons consider sacred. So is there something special about the Geometry of the Sacred Places, such as the Pyramid of Giza, and StoneHenge, and others?

As it turns out..there is : )

One special reason is: All Light and electromagnetic energy flows in predictable patterns around the sacred geometrical figures, which are the building blocks of life.

For Example: Stonehenge, and the Pyramid of Giza each represent in different aspects the Flower of life.

[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

The Flower Of Life the pattern of creation that the Universe uses to create all things. From form and Matter.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

The complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube, which holds all the Platonic solids .
Not just the building blocks of life, but the building blocks of creation itself.
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

If you overlay a map (after getting the correct scale) with the complete flower of life, all sacred sites, standing stones etc, will sit at the centre of six points.
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

Here you can see the earth is really patterned after the Flower life pattern and the platonic solids which are the building blocks of life which fit into it.

All the sacred sites sit on what people refer to as ley lines or energy lines. Coincidence? I think not. : )

There is much more information about the sacred sites and special reasons for the Geometry.

This is how one can begin there study of masonry. : )
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I have been a researcher for many years. Before I joined the Freemasons I had researched Freemasonry for about 4 years. I had several hundred hours put in to studying the craft.

When I started to make discoveries before I was a Mason of what I felt was some pretty important information veiled deep in Masonic symbols. I went to some family members and revealed some what I had found.

Guess What??

They rejected it!! Why? They were not ready! I quickly realized that it is wrong to try to influence others that are not at a right point spiritually to understand and actually could have negative consequences to them spiritually. The Masonic oaths we take to NOT reveal the secrets are because of this!

So many people want to know what our secrets are, but the ironic thing is....when you actually reveal the deeper Masonic Secrets to someone it doesn't do any good for most people because they will just reject them anyway!

My understanding now is that Free Will is a universal law. The information is encoded for a good reason. Its to protect the Free Will of those that are not yet ready!
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Most who come to GLP and look at my posts from this thread will feel I have revealed nothing and wasted their time. Because people want to have everything easy and handed to them without working for it. But there maybe a few here on GLP that realize i am offering a bit more.

Easy is baking a cake or going to fast food restaurant. We are in a society where we now place such high value on convenience that people now sometimes go to drive through weddings! But if you do that hasn't some of the real meaning of getting married been lost?

This also is not how real spiritual progress is made. Its not meant to be easy. Its made a the individual who goes through a progression to reach new understandings. Each person has to do the work.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Ok, I'll bite... as a Celt (spirituality) and somewhat ecclectic, I'm open minded enough to read between the lines. I actually thought about trying to join the masons to find out the real truth...good or bad...however, as a woman, I feel it would be rather pointless to bother...nonetheless, I have researched symols and other matters of the occult for years. I'm not an expert, but I know enough to find my way. So, what can a supposed mason offer to someone like me, if it goes against free will to tell the secrets?
 Quoting: Celt 8973564


I said earlier that the secrets are only secrets because they are veiled in symbol and you have to be determined to get through the layers, so you do NOT need to be a mason to reach understanding of the secrets.

But how does one start?
I wanted to know like you before I joined if the Masons were a good institution. So I began to follow the bread crumbs left behind.

If one were to start studying Music, Math, Geometry, Astronomy...etc and see how each of the sciences connect to each other, because they all dol..you will begin to reach higher levels of understanding. In the end everything is connected! The challenge to to figure out how : )

So Without decoding our symbols or allegories so i don't violate oath...here is how I began. I found that Masons consider a number of sites around the world sacred. So the question is...why?

Its no secret that Geometry is a science that Masons consider sacred. So is there something special about the Geometry of the Sacred Places, such as the Pyramid of Giza, and StoneHenge, and others?

As it turns out..there is : )

One special reason is: All Light and electromagnetic energy flows in predictable patterns around the sacred geometrical figures, which are the building blocks of life.

For Example: Stonehenge, and the Pyramid of Giza each represent in different aspects the Flower of life.

[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

The Flower Of Life the pattern of creation that the Universe uses to create all things. From form and Matter.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

The complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube, which holds all the Platonic solids .
Not just the building blocks of life, but the building blocks of creation itself.
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

If you overlay a map (after getting the correct scale) with the complete flower of life, all sacred sites, standing stones etc, will sit at the centre of six points.
[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

[link to www.world-mysteries.com]

Here you can see the earth is really patterned after the Flower life pattern and the platonic solids which are the building blocks of life which fit into it.

All the sacred sites sit on what people refer to as ley lines or energy lines. Coincidence? I think not. : )

There is much more information about the sacred sites and special reasons for the Geometry.

This is how one can begin there study of masonry. : )
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493



All the Freemason symbols and allegories can be studied in exactly this same way, following a progression of how one area of study will eventually connect and lead to other and eventually connecting them all. We call this "following the rabbit hole" . This also includes Astrology and Alchemy and a number of other areas of study which all tie in. : )
Whether your a Freemason or not you can use this method of progression to study the universe. :)

Simply try to find the connections in whatever area of study of the universe you choose to another area and eventually trying to find the connections to all areas to each other :)

Also some knowledge gained cannot be taught it must experienced so you need to understand this as well.
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The mason's god is Baphomet.

Anyone over 30 knows this truth to be evident.
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Wrong! Masons revere Baphomet but it is not thier god! Your religous dogma keeps you from understanding the truth.

Baphomet = God of Freemasonry = FAIL!!!!
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so.....What's Spiritual about the freemasons?

Yes, everyone here are at or above their level, so please tell us the answer to the question. ty
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Since you chose to ignore my question, I'll answer for You:

There's nothing Spiritual about the freemasons(~).

so much for your "secrets" too(~)burnit
 Quoting: theSearchingJones


Freemasonry is a Spiritual organization but not a religion! It has a requirement that each member must believe in God but you can believe in whatever higher power you wish.

Religion is actually not allowed to be discussed in Lodge as it has a tendency to divide people and one of the main purposes of Freemasonry is brotherhood. So religion and politics are not allowed to be discussed.

Jerusalem has a masonic lodge and its the only place in the entire Middle East where those of every religion can gather and get along and COEXIST!

Religious temperance and acceptance of those different than you must spread if humanity is to progress!

Freemasonry does just that!!!!!
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here's a thought experiment.
OP have you ever considered following the "as above so below" axiom in the other direction.
You said the truth is to be found within.
Try following that thought.
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Or heres another one.
If the ancient sites are arranged in such a way as to describe the nature of things.
Can that be followed in both directions (inside and outside) in order to understand things?
Can it give you an idea of where you are?
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here's a thought experiment.
OP have you ever considered following the "as above so below" axiom in the other direction.
You said the truth is to be found within.
Try following that thought.
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Very true. Understand I was only laying out how to potentially follow the path of Freemasonry for those that TRULY want to understand it and follow it.

I am not trying to tell anyone to follow any particular path.

The problem is. Many are judgmental of masonry which is unfair because they really don't understand. Which is why I am here trying to help. But I am only showing the door and offering some keys. A person needs to walk through themselves.

Truth is a matter of view point and perspective so what is true for one person may not be true for another. So is also religion and spirituality. What is true and works one maybe completely different for someone else.

So what I am saying is there is no wrong or right version of religion or spirituality. It comes down to what is true for you. All is correct and all is wrong. It comes down to the individual who views them and where they are at on their own spiritual path.
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Or heres another one.
If the ancient sites are arranged in such a way as to describe the nature of things.
Can that be followed in both directions (inside and outside) in order to understand things?
Can it give you an idea of where you are?
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Of course! There many ways to reach deeper levels understanding. But by doing what you just described can definitely do just that for those sites!
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here's a thought experiment.
OP have you ever considered following the "as above so below" axiom in the other direction.
You said the truth is to be found within.
Try following that thought.
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Yes..absolutely the reverse is also true!!!
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here's a thought experiment.
OP have you ever considered following the "as above so below" axiom in the other direction.
You said the truth is to be found within.
Try following that thought.
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Yes..absolutely the reverse is also true!!!
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What exists in you is a Microcosm of everything that exists in the universe. So if you look within yourself you can definitely find and see the larger picture of all that is!!!
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their god is evil....

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their god is evil....

thanks anyway
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Thanks for viewing masonry from your own religous dogma.
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their god is evil....

thanks anyway
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


What god? Freemasonry supports all religions and all faiths.
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05/03/2012 11:23 AM
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Re: The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!
their god is evil....

thanks anyway
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


Thanks for being a judgmental person that lacks the motivation to do kind of research thats required to have any kind of understanding of Freemasonry.
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05/03/2012 11:24 AM
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their god is evil....

thanks anyway
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


What god? Freemasonry supports all religions and all faiths.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


you're no more than a cub scout ;)
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Re: The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!
their god is evil....

thanks anyway
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


What god? Freemasonry supports all religions and all faiths.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


you're no more than a cub scout ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15260040


Interesting that you should mention the cub scouts. Do you support the Cub scout and Boy Scout organizations? Do you think they are good organizations?
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Re: The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!
their god is evil....

thanks anyway
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


What god? Freemasonry supports all religions and all faiths.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahhaha

or they just ''created'' them to CONTROL more easly

hahaha

YES THEY HAVE GOD

the higher massons

Ive not fear to expose

yes - they SELL OUT REST OF HUMANITY

to be ''with the godS'' - yes - they are many - but they are NOGODS - they are aliens..

sad but true
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05/03/2012 11:27 AM
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Re: The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!
The masons have found proof of the existence of god and of the world we cannot see. God left proof in symbols that masons consider sacred. If you follow the symbols you can greatly improve your understanding of God, your spirituality, and the universe we live in.

Masons do you have secrets, but when they tell you there are no secrets that is also true because they can be found from anyone that wants to find them. The secrets are veiled behind symbols and in some cases MANY layers deep! They are secrets only because you have to be determined enough to dig through the layers. The layers are meant to keep out those that are not meant or ready to see. If you’re not ready you won’t get through all the layers.

Masons will not tell you what they know because they may not know themselves and the ones that do know realize that everyone is on their own spiritual path and it is wrong to influence those that are not spiritually ready. The path is not easy because it takes allot of diligence and work, but if you really want to find the truth you can find it! I don’t know everything, but I have studied enough to have a fair understanding.

One key aspect that most people get hung up on when trying to decode the symbols of Freemasonry is Duality. You will find sites all over the net believing that have successfully decoded our symbols revealing the deeper secrets of Freemasonry, but almost all of them have failed!!

Why? Because their own religious dogma has prevented them from reaching understanding. They will not be able to go further because their own religious viewpoint is keeping them from doing so. They are not ready to see so they cannot!


Idol1
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493





Listen up.

You don't know shit.

mod(phi x pi x 2 x 360) = END OF YOUR LIFE.
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05/03/2012 11:28 AM
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Re: The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!
their god is evil....

thanks anyway
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


What god? Freemasonry supports all religions and all faiths.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


you're no more than a cub scout ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15260040


Interesting that you should mention the cub scouts. Do you support the Cub scout and Boy Scout organizations? Do you think they are good organizations?
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


just how you boys started out.
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05/03/2012 11:30 AM
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Re: The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!
their god is evil....

thanks anyway
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


What god? Freemasonry supports all religions and all faiths.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahhaha

or they just ''created'' them to CONTROL more easly

hahaha

YES THEY HAVE GOD

the higher massons

Ive not fear to expose

yes - they SELL OUT REST OF HUMANITY

to be ''with the godS'' - yes - they are many - but they are NOGODS - they are aliens..

sad but true
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


Please Go ahead and expose Freemasonry. If you can??? Its already evident that you cant, but go ahead. Try! Lets see what you got!cool2

so far you have said nothing.
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05/03/2012 11:33 AM
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The masons have found proof of the existence of god and of the world we cannot see. God left proof in symbols that masons consider sacred. If you follow the symbols you can greatly improve your understanding of God, your spirituality, and the universe we live in.

Masons do you have secrets, but when they tell you there are no secrets that is also true because they can be found from anyone that wants to find them. The secrets are veiled behind symbols and in some cases MANY layers deep! They are secrets only because you have to be determined enough to dig through the layers. The layers are meant to keep out those that are not meant or ready to see. If you’re not ready you won’t get through all the layers.

Masons will not tell you what they know because they may not know themselves and the ones that do know realize that everyone is on their own spiritual path and it is wrong to influence those that are not spiritually ready. The path is not easy because it takes allot of diligence and work, but if you really want to find the truth you can find it! I don’t know everything, but I have studied enough to have a fair understanding.

One key aspect that most people get hung up on when trying to decode the symbols of Freemasonry is Duality. You will find sites all over the net believing that have successfully decoded our symbols revealing the deeper secrets of Freemasonry, but almost all of them have failed!!

Why? Because their own religious dogma has prevented them from reaching understanding. They will not be able to go further because their own religious viewpoint is keeping them from doing so. They are not ready to see so they cannot!


Idol1
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493





Listen up.

You don't know shit.

mod(phi x pi x 2 x 360) = END OF YOUR LIFE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15188107


wow.... I yield to your vastly superior knowledge!! cool2
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05/03/2012 11:34 AM
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...


None, at least from Freemasonry...
 Quoting: Archaic Mason


I have been a researcher for many years. Before I joined the Freemasons I had researched Freemasonry for about 4 years. I had several hundred hours put in to studying the craft.

When I started to make discoveries before I was a Mason of what I felt was some pretty important information veiled deep in Masonic symbols. I went to some family members and revealed some what I had found.

Guess What??

They rejected it!! Why? They were not ready! I quickly realized that it is wrong to try to influence others that are not at a right point spiritually to understand and actually could have negative consequences to them spiritually. The Masonic oaths we take to NOT reveal the secrets are because of this!

So many people want to know what our secrets are, but the ironic thing is....when you actually reveal the deeper Masonic Secrets to someone it doesn't do any good for most people because they will just reject them anyway!

My understanding now is that Free Will is a universal law. The information is encoded for a good reason. Its to protect the Free Will of those that are not yet ready!
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Most who come to GLP and look at my posts from this thread will feel I have revealed nothing and wasted their time. Because people want to have everything easy and handed to them without working for it. But there maybe a few here on GLP that realize i am offering a bit more.

Easy is baking a cake or going to fast food restaurant. We are in a society where we now place such high value on convenience that people now sometimes go to drive through weddings! But if you do that hasn't some of the real meaning of getting married been lost?

This also is not how real spiritual progress is made. Its not meant to be easy. Its made a the individual who goes through a progression to reach new understandings. Each person has to do the work.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Ok, I'll bite... as a Celt (spirituality) and somewhat ecclectic, I'm open minded enough to read between the lines. I actually thought about trying to join the masons to find out the real truth...good or bad...however, as a woman, I feel it would be rather pointless to bother...nonetheless, I have researched symols and other matters of the occult for years. I'm not an expert, but I know enough to find my way. So, what can a supposed mason offer to someone like me, if it goes against free will to tell the secrets?
 Quoting: Celt 8973564


Their exclusivity negates their truth. It has a sole male hierarchy dominating initiate all male fraternity which utilizes scientific facts in order to manipulate through an all male created,fabricated doctrine steeped in ridiculous ceremony utilized to stultify and exact even more control over ,you guessed it, only men.

All paths may indeed lead to source, but some take a dubious and misogynist route.

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