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The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!

 
AAONMS (OP)
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"Freemasonry is NOT Luciferian. "

yes it is. Doesn't matter how you paint it.

but I agree with you that Luciferianism != satanism. Satanism is actually an offshoot of Luciferianism, which is more advanced overall.
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I am not painting Freemasonry. If you really want to learn you must be committed to do the research necessary. You have not done nearly enough and your dogma is showing. cool2
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I have done the research and freemasonry is a religion that supports the Light-bearer which is Lucifer.

And if you have not been told the truth yet in your lodge then YOU have not been deemed a worthy sage to know and deserve to be mislead as your own organization states.
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I see.....I couldnt possibly know something that you dont. Not possible, right?? Your absolutely certain that you understand the information you have researched??

I am just not at high enough degree to understand yet, right??

Wow...I bow down to you oh great all knowing one. Your viewpoint hasn't veiled the secrets. I lay my sword down at your feet. yeahsure
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its just all those societies that HIDE KNOWLEDGE - they do it since they exist

and HUMANITY IS IN SHIT RIGHT NOW - BECAUSE OF THOSE HIDING THE KNOWLEDGE..


there are sooo many things about nature & so on NOT written in ANY book that's ''oficial'' schools, unis, academies, whatever...
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I repeat - obviously - by your posts above - you didnt red everything I wrote

this is the latest masterpiece ;DD

now tell me...
 Quoting: WuDStefoto


There is nothing hidden in symbol or allegory in Masonry that cannot be uncovered by you! But you have to be determined enough open minded enough and also possibly look at things in new ways.
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


WHO IS TALKING ABOUT SYMBOLS ?? man wtf


IM SPEAKING ABOUT HIDING KNOWLEDGE FROM THE REST OF THE PEOPLE

UCZ TRUST ME ''THE UNIVERSE"" AS A THREAD TO YOUR MASTER IS LIKE BREAKFAST IN A HURRY.... we both know it well.. wtf is wrong with you ??

you still have time - true - but REPENTING ON GLP isnt the way dude...
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And just where do you think the knowledge is hidden??? :)
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"Freemasonry is NOT Luciferian. "

yes it is. Doesn't matter how you paint it.

but I agree with you that Luciferianism != satanism. Satanism is actually an offshoot of Luciferianism, which is more advanced overall.
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I am not painting Freemasonry. If you really want to learn you must be committed to do the research necessary. You have not done nearly enough and your dogma is showing. cool2
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I have done the research and freemasonry is a religion that supports the Light-bearer which is Lucifer.

And if you have not been told the truth yet in your lodge then YOU have not been deemed a worthy sage to know and deserve to be mislead as your own organization states.
 Quoting: Merci


I see.....I couldnt possibly know something that you dont. Not possible, right?? Your absolutely certain that you understand the information you have researched??

I am just not at high enough degree to understand yet, right??

Wow...I bow down to you oh great all knowing one. Your viewpoint hasn't veiled the secrets. I lay my sword down at your feet. yeahsure
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Just a daughter of a hard working worthy traveler that has been informed the truth of the society.

Read what your own past leaders have said if you dont believe me.

You fail in the first place by not recognizing the fact that your lodge keeps christ locked outside the front door.

I bet you think your a Christian too?

So yes, apparently I do know more than you do.

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"Freemasonry is NOT Luciferian. "

yes it is. Doesn't matter how you paint it.

but I agree with you that Luciferianism != satanism. Satanism is actually an offshoot of Luciferianism, which is more advanced overall.
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Exactly, same concept as Black And White Witches, Anton LaVey himself laughed at the fact that people tried to differentiate between the two. As they are both magic, and both serving evil.

Which happens to also be the same concept behind most occult teachings. Kaballah, Freemasonry, Hindu religions, Gnosticism, we could go on for days about teachings from Babylonia originally. All the same concepts wrapped in different packaging. Fucking read people, and not just from here, the dots are there to be connected.

If people take the time to do the research themselves instead of relying on others opinions on these subjects, one will be much more informed on the belief systems that are shared amongst these "brotherhoods"
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Babylon->Greece->Egypt->Rome->Templars & Jesuits->Freemasons

From Babylon to the Roman Catholic Church: 666 and The Mark
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[link to www.archive.org]
Comparison of symbols used in ancient paganism and current Christianity. Over 900 photographs from museums and cathedrals around the world. History of the religion of the Roman Empire from Babylon to present. Reveals who the "Beast" of the Apocalypse is.
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I am not painting Freemasonry. If you really want to learn you must be committed to do the research necessary. You have not done nearly enough and your dogma is showing. cool2
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


I have done the research and freemasonry is a religion that supports the Light-bearer which is Lucifer.

And if you have not been told the truth yet in your lodge then YOU have not been deemed a worthy sage to know and deserve to be mislead as your own organization states.
 Quoting: Merci


I see.....I couldnt possibly know something that you dont. Not possible, right?? Your absolutely certain that you understand the information you have researched??

I am just not at high enough degree to understand yet, right??

Wow...I bow down to you oh great all knowing one. Your viewpoint hasn't veiled the secrets. I lay my sword down at your feet. yeahsure
 Quoting: AAONMS 1282493


Just a daughter of a hard working worthy traveler that has been informed the truth of the society.

Read what your own past leaders have said if you dont believe me.

You fail in the first place by not recognizing the fact that your lodge keeps christ locked outside the front door.

I bet you think your a Christian too?

So yes, apparently I do know more than you do.
 Quoting: Merci


Really?? How did a copy of the Holy Bible get on the alter of each and every lodge of Freemasonry? How is that possible? Someone must have snuck it into every lodge of Freemasonry. It must have been a coordinated effort I guess to get past our guarded doors. cool2

So because your the daughter of a Mason that automatically makes you and your father have deep understanding of the secrets of masonry? Your right!! Someone that gave him information couldn't have been wrong.

Your right you know more than me. It must be true. There are no other possible explanations.
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"Freemasonry is NOT Luciferian. "

yes it is. Doesn't matter how you paint it.

but I agree with you that Luciferianism != satanism. Satanism is actually an offshoot of Luciferianism, which is more advanced overall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15469024


Exactly, same concept as Black And White Witches, Anton LaVey himself laughed at the fact that people tried to differentiate between the two. As they are both magic, and both serving evil.

Which happens to also be the same concept behind most occult teachings. Kaballah, Freemasonry, Hindu religions, Gnosticism, we could go on for days about teachings from Babylonia originally. All the same concepts wrapped in different packaging. Fucking read people, and not just from here, the dots are there to be connected.

If people take the time to do the research themselves instead of relying on others opinions on these subjects, one will be much more informed on the belief systems that are shared amongst these "brotherhoods"
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Its so good of you to go on a "save the world" campaign from us evil Freemasons. Keep plugging away. Its noble work your doing.
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Hey brother. I appreciate what you started sharing on the thread but it has just become overrun with close minded individuals. They're thoughts and minds are made up that we stand for negativity and ours is the other way around. We have conflicting views. Lets allow the crowd whine and have their opinions - there's nothing we could do to change them. You never start to see until your eyes are open. And when you think your eyes are open and your seeing reality, darkness has never listed its veil.
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The deeper secrets of Freemasonry are NOT Satanic or Devil worship. Several sites believe that those are the real secrets of Freemasonry and that is an EPIC FAIL!
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Are you of the 33rd degree. You will accept a Luciferian indoctrination upon reaching the 33rd degree. This has been well known for 40+ years now.
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I am an IGH and I beg to differ. An IGH has met God. PERIOD.
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OP is telling the absolute truth in this thread. This year is an important one and the secrets are free to all (they always were but we are free to lead folks to them).

God made this world confusing for a reason. When you die, you are asked a question--something like a test question. If Our Father had not encoded the proofs of his existence and the nature of reality, then we would have no "free will". Yes, I have died and returned.

The truth: God is real and he is ALL "gods". He created our world and all time. From His dimension, he can see it all laid out from beginning to end. It is like a painting. We are like brushtrokes that are drying. That is the explanation that reconciles Free Will with Divine Plan. Think about it before you start flaming.

Also, please see my thread entitled: The True and Fully-Verifiable Meaning of As Above, So Below. (His do a search). It is the key--yes, seriously. If you fully comprehend the meaning, you may "die", though. LOL. But then you'll see for yourself.

Our Father loves each and every one of us like a father loves a newborn baby. Cry and crap and vomit as it may, it is PERFECT in the eyes of its dad. Praise God.

Sorry about the rambling in this post. I wasn't really expecting to see this thread on GLP today.
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You are forgetting duality, the expression of God as a male force is the antithesis of what you seem to be aware of and describing. Which is a farce fabricated by men and perpetuated by most. Aggravating......
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Aggravating is when people take metaphor literally. You have a repectable agenda. Just leave me out of your man-bashing.
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I do believe sir, had you spent a lifetime as a female of the human persuasion,hearing God continually referred to as a man, you might be inclined to point out the hypocrisy when encountered. It is often a valid and beneficial practice to stand in ones shoes, even if they may be high heals, to gain empathy and perspective for their views.

After all, all men were women at one time, at least in utero.......
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Indeed, I have spent lives as females and I am quite in touch with them. Please stop trying to make me out as a sexist. God introduced Himself to me as My Father. He/She may introduce "Shimself" to you as Your Mother. Who knows OR CARES. Get over it. I have.

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its just all those societies that HIDE KNOWLEDGE - they do it since they exist

and HUMANITY IS IN SHIT RIGHT NOW - BECAUSE OF THOSE HIDING THE KNOWLEDGE..


there are sooo many things about nature & so on NOT written in ANY book that's ''oficial'' schools, unis, academies, whatever...
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so lets get back to the question...
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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The problem with freemasonry is that it's basically a gentleman spiritual club, with all the cons it entails:

- Exaggerated importance of the social status and power/wealth of the members
- Quest for fancy titles instead of wisdom (you can pay for mason "crash course" where you will be ordained in a very short time, so you can say "I'm a mason"! It's getting very commercial today)
- Fascination for the occult and other dangerous spiritual practices
- Personal use of the networking achieved in lodge to influence political and corporate powers, or even personal interests (conflict of interest)

I'm not saying religions are better. Just that masons who so love to criticize organized religions are as bad in their own ways.
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Also masons overvalue the human intellect (calling him the light-bringer) while all ancient civilization clearly pointed at the danger of hubris.

Knowledge is not an end, it's just a tool. A tool can kill or heal. You don't worship a tool. But masons worship knowledge and intellect, leading some to their own fall after they stumble on hubris.

They see ignorance as a tare, but is an ignorant child "lower" than an educated mason? For a big ego, yes, for a true believer of God, no, as all is sacred.

Lucifer (enlightened/ing mind), Prometheus, Cain, etc are symbols of the human hubris, the human science that brought us the atom bomb and the biological weapons.

That is also the face of Lucifer/Prometheus, and masons see it (like war) as a "necessary evil".

I see it like it is, like the wise Greek called it:

hubris.
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Finally, masons have a terrible habit of reinterpreting history in order to help deal with their frustration:

They accept for the love of God to be nothing more than a secret society that has been around for a few centuries.

They HAVE to invent stories to trace their lineage back to the masons or even to Judaic roots (because they are obsessed about Salomon and the Kaballah) while all evidence point to the contrary. For example, the fate of the templars is very well know as after their disbanding they joined various Christian orders, military or not. They continued to exist there, and you can even find their symbol all around the world on the sails of the Portuguese ships of the XVth century.

But the anglo-saxons masons can't stand to have no ancient roots and NEED to appropriate that Templar and Judaic history, up to a ridiculous point of being unable to separate the truth from THEIR wishful thinking. How ironic for a group claiming the intellect is supreme above all :)
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Finally, masons have a terrible habit of reinterpreting history in order to help dealing with their frustration:

They can't accept for the love of God to be nothing more than a secret society that has been around for a few centuries.

They HAVE to invent stories to trace their lineage back to the Templars or even to Judaic roots (because they are obsessed about Salomon and the Kaballah) while all evidence point to the contrary. For example, the fate of the Templars is very well know as after their disbanding they joined various Christian orders, military or not. They continued to exist there, and you can even find their symbol all around the world on the sails of the Portuguese ships of the XVth century.

But the anglo-saxons masons can't stand to have no ancient roots and NEED to appropriate that Templar and Judaic history, up to a ridiculous point of being unable to separate the truth from THEIR wishful thinking. How ironic for a group claiming the intellect is supreme above all :)
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Corrected because shit no edit mode :)
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I have ALLOT left to learn and will spend my life time doing so. I don't know everything nor do I claim to. Nor do I claim to be at the highest level of knowledge. A person could spend a lifetime diligently learning Masonry and hardly know anything. I know there are many with much more knowledge that I have. But I try to help people the best I can with what I know, and at the same time not breaking my oaths.
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And (which is more important) you pay your dues, don't you ever forget it.
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As who gives a damn what you learn in the process of giving your hard earned money to hierarchy.
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Freemasons are not allowed to give out "secrets".
If you were a "real" freemason you would know this.
Lying motherfucker.
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Freemasons are not allowed to give out "secrets".
If you were a "real" freemason you would know this.
Lying motherfucker.
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he gave shit

he's just trying to convice they are ''good guys'' ..

Im keep asking WHY HIDING INFO - if you are good guys

so far - 3 times and NO answer.. ^_^
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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This is were the masons are forked into there own delusion.

SECRETS ARE KEEPED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ON THERE OWN SPIRITUAL PATH..THERE NOT SPIRITUALLY READY.

That's a load of garbage.

Were all spiritual beings...the path is only blocked by certain hidden factions through our history.

Everyone is ready if given the chance.

The reason some people are more pronanced than the rest of humanity is...

Certain people..what ever number that would be...were initiated into the mystery schools in our ancient past.

What this does through there energy patterns through there life times...is...There consciousness is not as entailed into a certain frequency through reality.
In other words they are able to be more spiritually advanved than the rest.

There energy vibrations are imprinted from there past undertaking of there initiation of the mystery schools into the corridors of energy.

Now...think about how there are different levels of people who know certain things about spirituality.


Not everyone has delved into these corridors through our history and that's why there are divisions in our knowledge.


There are certain reasons why some did. You can see divisions in our reality and divisions in knowledge of what is termed spirituality.
I'll leave that to another day.
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the movie THEY LIVE 1988 ..

expalins it and shows it good - I even wonder - how they let it to be officially released, but then again .. in 1988 .. who wouldda thought .. ^^


[link to www.imdb.com]
These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)
-> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <-
is the only way youths listen to
the Prophets !!!


PROOF -> CAN YOU CATCH iT???

[link to www.youtube.com]

rememba: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH

LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D

peace2daUNIVERSE
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This is were the masons are forked into there own delusion.

SECRETS ARE KEEPED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ON THERE OWN SPIRITUAL PATH..THERE NOT SPIRITUALLY READY.

That's a load of garbage.

Were all spiritual beings...the path is only blocked by certain hidden factions through our history.

Everyone is ready if given the chance.

The reason some people are more pronanced than the rest of humanity is...

Certain people..what ever number that would be...were initiated into the mystery schools in our ancient past.

What this does through there energy patterns through there life times...is...There consciousness is not as entailed into a certain frequency through reality.
In other words they are able to be more spiritually advanved than the rest.

There energy vibrations are imprinted from there past undertaking of there initiation of the mystery schools into the corridors of energy.

Now...think about how there are different levels of people who know certain things about spirituality.


Not everyone has delved into these corridors through our history and that's why there are divisions in our knowledge.


There are certain reasons why some did. You can see divisions in our reality and divisions in knowledge of what is termed spirituality.
I'll leave that to another day.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


You are right

Freemasonry today is but a shiny ego-trap for those looking for knowledge. Think about it, all the cool titles, the shiny medals, the "secret" knowledge, doesn't it all stimulate the ego? Humans are attracted by what is forbidden or secret. The creators of freemasonry knew it very well.

It's not to "protect" anyone, more like to "attract" the uninitiated :) All the "secrets" have been in the open for decades and the world is not harmed by it. At best, if you share your "secret" truths with those who are not ready to hear them, they will simply laugh at you or not believe you.

Saying the worlds needs to be "protected" from these secret until ready or initiation is condescending and from the ego - again.

Masons know about the presence of God in all things and people, and yet they keep this old traditional structure that allows for better control of the members, as well a really condescending attitude to those who are not masons.

Like most spiritual people who fall for the ego-trap, they think THEY have the only correct interpreting of the Truth, and that they are better than religions or simply wise people to teach about spirituality.

Yeah, sure :p
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This is were the masons are forked into there own delusion.

SECRETS ARE KEEPED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ON THERE OWN SPIRITUAL PATH..THERE NOT SPIRITUALLY READY.

That's a load of garbage.

Were all spiritual beings...the path is only blocked by certain hidden factions through our history.

Everyone is ready if given the chance.

The reason some people are more pronanced than the rest of humanity is...

Certain people..what ever number that would be...were initiated into the mystery schools in our ancient past.

What this does through there energy patterns through there life times...is...There consciousness is not as entailed into a certain frequency through reality.
In other words they are able to be more spiritually advanved than the rest.

There energy vibrations are imprinted from there past undertaking of there initiation of the mystery schools into the corridors of energy.

Now...think about how there are different levels of people who know certain things about spirituality.


Not everyone has delved into these corridors through our history and that's why there are divisions in our knowledge.


There are certain reasons why some did. You can see divisions in our reality and divisions in knowledge of what is termed spirituality.
I'll leave that to another day.
 Quoting: mysterynomore


You are right

Freemasonry today is but a shiny ego-trap for those looking for knowledge. Think about it, all the cool titles, the shiny medals, the "secret" knowledge, doesn't it all stimulate the ego? Humans are attracted by what is forbidden or secret. The creators of freemasonry knew it very well.

It's not to "protect" anyone, more like to "attract" the uninitiated :) All the "secrets" have been in the open for decades and the world is not harmed by it. At best, if you share your "secret" truths with those who are not ready to hear them, they will simply laugh at you or not believe you.

Saying the worlds needs to be "protected" from these secret until ready or initiation is condescending and from the ego - again.

Masons know about the presence of God in all things and people, and yet they keep this old traditional structure that allows for better control of the members, as well a really condescending attitude to those who are not masons.

Like most spiritual people who fall for the ego-trap, they think THEY have the only correct interpreting of the Truth, and that they are better than religions or simply wise people to teach about spirituality.

Yeah, sure :p
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That's correct.
Even in there ranks there are divisions in knowledge...it permeates through the whole system of society.
Jobs rank in divisions..the whole system is built to divide and conquer.
So is the secret knowledge that is keeped from the masses.
It's been decimated through history and keeped for the selected few.
That's why they use the term your not ready for spiritual growth.
Biggest load of garbage and lies under the sun.
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The deeper secrets of Freemasonry are NOT Satanic or Devil worship. Several sites believe that those are the real secrets of Freemasonry and that is an EPIC FAIL!
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What I get a kick out of, is the handbook rumor. That which they speak of is NOT sanctioned by the Masons. It's NOT allowed and there is NO handbook sanctioned by Masons.

EVERYTHING in Masons, is kept in the brain. NOTHING gets written down.
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The deeper secrets of Freemasonry are NOT Satanic or Devil worship. Several sites believe that those are the real secrets of Freemasonry and that is an EPIC FAIL!
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What I get a kick out of, is the handbook rumor. That which they speak of is NOT sanctioned by the Masons. It's NOT allowed and there is NO handbook sanctioned by Masons.

EVERYTHING in Masons, is kept in the brain. NOTHING gets written down.
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Not true.

It's even available everywhere on the net today thanks to all these masons who broke their oaths :) You can't control EVERYONE :p

[link to www.ephesians5-11.org]

[link to www.ephesians5-11.org]

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This is were the masons are forked into there own delusion.

SECRETS ARE KEEPED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ON THERE OWN SPIRITUAL PATH..THERE NOT SPIRITUALLY READY.

That's a load of garbage.

Were all spiritual beings...the path is only blocked by certain hidden factions through our history.

Everyone is ready if given the chance.

The reason some people are more pronanced than the rest of humanity is...

Certain people..what ever number that would be...were initiated into the mystery schools in our ancient past.

What this does through there energy patterns through there life times...is...There consciousness is not as entailed into a certain frequency through reality.
In other words they are able to be more spiritually advanved than the rest.

There energy vibrations are imprinted from there past undertaking of there initiation of the mystery schools into the corridors of energy.

Now...think about how there are different levels of people who know certain things about spirituality.


Not everyone has delved into these corridors through our history and that's why there are divisions in our knowledge.


There are certain reasons why some did. You can see divisions in our reality and divisions in knowledge of what is termed spirituality.
I'll leave that to another day.
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Anyone can obtain the information in Masonry. You dont need to join Masonry or any mystery school to obtain the knowledge. I obtained the vast majority of what I know before I ever joined Masons.

The knowledge in Masonry is veiled in symbol and allegory, but you can also easily find it outside of masonry. The information is encoded in the symbols sometimes many many layers deep.

I have said before that Progression is not just obtaining knowledge but also the journey taken to get there and the experience gained is equally if not more important.

Ask yourself. Why would Freemasonry allow those from ALL Religions? We are just trying to sucker people in through the door, right? That way we got them before than find out how evil we are so we can trap them inside. Yeah that must be it!!cool2

Or Could it be because the individual spiritual path one chooses doesn't matter as much as the journey one takes and the spiritual progression made therein? So then all spiritual paths are then essentially correct? hmmmm

Knowledge isn't just information..its also experience gained! So the encoded information in Masonry gives you a potential journey to take. A person following that path will get much more out of it then by just being given the same information.

Also, before I was a Mason I did attempt to reveal what I felt was some very important information that I had uncovered to several people that I am close to. They rejected it because they were not ready to hear it. If you dont want to believe I am telling the truth about this....its your choice.
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The problem with freemasonry is that it's basically a gentleman spiritual club, with all the cons it entails:

- Exaggerated importance of the social status and power/wealth of the members
- Quest for fancy titles instead of wisdom (you can pay for mason "crash course" where you will be ordained in a very short time, so you can say "I'm a mason"! It's getting very commercial today)
- Fascination for the occult and other dangerous spiritual practices
- Personal use of the networking achieved in lodge to influence political and corporate powers, or even personal interests (conflict of interest)

I'm not saying religions are better. Just that masons who so love to criticize organized religions are as bad in their own ways.
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Bump for OP opinion about my critics.
Not trying to bash, it's just constructive criticism and I hope the brothers are open to it.


Thanks hf
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Finally, masons have a terrible habit of reinterpreting history in order to help deal with their frustration:

They accept for the love of God to be nothing more than a secret society that has been around for a few centuries.

They HAVE to invent stories to trace their lineage back to the masons or even to Judaic roots (because they are obsessed about Salomon and the Kaballah) while all evidence point to the contrary. For example, the fate of the templars is very well know as after their disbanding they joined various Christian orders, military or not. They continued to exist there, and you can even find their symbol all around the world on the sails of the Portuguese ships of the XVth century.

But the anglo-saxons masons can't stand to have no ancient roots and NEED to appropriate that Templar and Judaic history, up to a ridiculous point of being unable to separate the truth from THEIR wishful thinking. How ironic for a group claiming the intellect is supreme above all :)
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Finally, masons have a terrible habit of reinterpreting history in order to help dealing with their frustration:

They can't accept for the love of God to be nothing more than a secret society that has been around for a few centuries.

They HAVE to invent stories to trace their lineage back to the Templars or even to Judaic roots (because they are obsessed about Salomon and the Kaballah) while all evidence point to the contrary. For example, the fate of the Templars is very well know as after their disbanding they joined various Christian orders, military or not. They continued to exist there, and you can even find their symbol all around the world on the sails of the Portuguese ships of the XVth century.

But the anglo-saxons masons can't stand to have no ancient roots and NEED to appropriate that Templar and Judaic history, up to a ridiculous point of being unable to separate the truth from THEIR wishful thinking. How ironic for a group claiming the intellect is supreme above all :)
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Also masons overvalue the human intellect (calling him the light-bringer) while all ancient civilization clearly pointed at the danger of hubris.

Knowledge is not an end, it's just a tool. A tool can kill or heal. You don't worship a tool. But masons worship knowledge and intellect, leading some to their own fall after they stumble on hubris.

They see ignorance as a tare, but is an ignorant child "lower" than an educated mason? For a big ego, yes, for a true believer of God, no, as all is sacred.

Lucifer (enlightened/ing mind), Prometheus, Cain, etc are symbols of the human hubris, the human science that brought us the atom bomb and the biological weapons.

That is also the face of Lucifer/Prometheus, and masons see it (like war) as a "necessary evil".

I see it like it is, like the wise Greek called it:

hubris.
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Oops, messed the quotes. here #2

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