The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!

You didn't understand what I said.

I talked about the ancients...the masons are nothing in the scheme of things..what they learned was from the ancient egyptians.
A lot of there symbolism reflects the symbolism from that era.

I was talking in general terms on the state of play with our reality.

William Schnoebelen did 33 degree Scottish rite and 90th degree rite of Memphis, and he has even published his certification including being made a knight templar. He is very qualified to explain the light behind freemasonry:

Oh and one last that pisses me off about high-level American masons is that they believe they have to fulfil a prophecy from Merlin, and that the US are the new spiritual Atlantis that will one day rule the world and usher a golden age.

that's the problem when you get too deep in occultism, you start to believe some crazy things without noticing.

I'm not kidding at all, what I say comes from real high-level masons insiders, and the whole symbolism in the US seals indicate the forefathers knew very well what they had in mind for the future of the US.

To me, it shows how huge the egos of these people are if they believe they have a duty to fulfil one prophecy that suits them fine (because there are other prophecies who are not so in favor of the US, so why THAT one?). Because those who follow the quest of knowledge (Lucifer) usually engage on a quest for power and try to shape the world to their view, which is like the sign of an ego the size of the moon.

The modern US are still ruled to fulfil that old prophecy, and the state of the world is bad partly because of that crazy dream of world dominance.

The truth is...When a person is at the right spiritual point they do not need for someone to reveal this information to them. They can and will be able to find this information and uncover it. If they have enough diligence and will to do so. So in the end it truly is their own Free Will Choice. Which IMHO is universal law.

So If what I say is true about the valuable knowledge contained within the journey and that anyone who is ready and can find it if they are determined enough...why should one who posses this information reveal it to everyone? There would be no point of doing so, right?

OP, can you answer my posts please?

He maybe qualified, but he is very much idiot!! LOL He doesn't understand anything about masonry. A person can go through all the degrees in Masonry and not understand anything about the deeper secrets of Masonry and this guy takes the cake. He went the wrong direction on everything and is truly lost.

You actually have to put in the time to do the work required to have any kind of understanding which in my case was hundreds of hours of research.

The idiot is the one who thinks they can have any kind of understanding of Masonry and spirituality without putting in necessary work.

William Schnoebelen = IDIOT

OP, why do you ignore me? Do my post bother you?

Can you at least tell me if you are not going to answer me so I know I'm losing my time here?

That would be kind :)

The only secrets I keep are for the general well-being of all they involve. I daresay the Masons may claim more positive confirmation of continuing great works by me than any other select group of seemingly entitled individuals. That is all to say that while their abuses of power and privilege may draw the ire of outsiders, they are nonetheless sheltering of their own detractors, and those less fortunate than themselves. Whatever our differences, I can respect this.

"Aude, Vide Tace.."
Nuff said...


Any Brother will tell you that.
If people want to know, ask to join a lodge.

Can any mason tell me this is paranoid BS? Because that would be nice.

I don't imagine well a future where the US consider themselves a shining beacon of wisdom and democracy and make everything to bring them to all others nations.

Oh? It's already happening? OK :p

That goes for any of the mystery schools as well.

Things are "hidden in plain sight" because theirs no need to hide them. Those ready will understand and those not will dismiss.

I probably know more of the "secrets" of masons than most masons and I'm not one.

The cherboard floor, the pillars of mercy and severity (jacob and boaz) Jacobs Ladder between them.... etc..

But I'm a Rosicrucian :)

We have lots of masons in my bunch The Golden Dawn. Their all good friends.

If you like the more esoteric side of things OP, check us out :)

Frater

Not true. I have a great love for God as I believe most masons do. The more understanding I obtain about our Creator the more in awwwww of the awesome nature God truly possesses. Each Mason must state a belief in God to become one so I believe most have a great love and respect for God.

The Masons have a history that goes waaaaay beyond and waaay farther back than most people think. Recorded history only goes so far. But as far as the original Templars go...there are VERY strong links an strong evidence that they were not totally wiped out but most went underground into total secrecy for fear of their lives in early 1300's but remained active! There is evidence they continued operating underground till finally merging with the stone masons in the 1700's who they did work closely with back in the 1300's and created close ties to.

Research "The Order of Cistercians" It was Bernard of Clairvaux the leader of the Cistercians who actually Founded the original "Poor knights of Christ and Temple of Solomon" which dispensation was granted by the pope and became the "Knights Templar"
The Knights Templar was originally formed to protect the building of all the beautiful Gothic stone churches being built at that time by several different guilds of stone masons.

One particular stone mason guild was I think known as "The Sons of Solomon Stonemasons" This particular guild it is believed worked very closely with the Cistercians and Bernard of Clairvaux and Templars and both were there given knowledge from them and it is believed by some that its that same knowledge that exists in Freemasonry to this day.

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The masons have found proof of the existence of god and of the world we cannot see. God left proof in symbols that masons consider sacred. If you follow the symbols you can greatly improve your understanding of God, your spirituality, and the universe we live in.

Masons do you have secrets, but when they tell you there are no secrets that is also true because they can be found from anyone that wants to find them. The secrets are veiled behind symbols and in some cases MANY layers deep! They are secrets only because you have to be determined enough to dig through the layers. The layers are meant to keep out those that are not meant or ready to see. If you’re not ready you won’t get through all the layers.

Masons will not tell you what they know because they may not know themselves and the ones that do know realize that everyone is on their own spiritual path and it is wrong to influence those that are not spiritually ready. The path is not easy because it takes allot of diligence and work, but if you really want to find the truth you can find it! I don’t know everything, but I have studied enough to have a fair understanding.

One key aspect that most people get hung up on when trying to decode the symbols of Freemasonry is Duality. You will find sites all over the net believing that have successfully decoded our symbols revealing the deeper secrets of Freemasonry, but almost all of them have failed!!

Why? Because their own religious dogma has prevented them from reaching understanding. They will not be able to go further because their own religious viewpoint is keeping them from doing so. They are not ready to see so they cannot!


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You make sense, but your lack of logic and reason tells me, you 'think' you know the truth..

Rosicrucians, rosicrucians... Oh, those who call themselves illuminatis ;)

Yep, same crazy prophetic American dream :)

"just as soon as these things come to pass, then shall the Eagle soar over all things, and America will be the mistress of the world, though she will not rule through arms and politics, but by love and wisdom"

Page 14 of the report of their 68th Convcation

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alongside cool things like lectures on "eugenics", "scientific child cultures" and "the second coming of the christ".

LoL, you try to teach a Belgian about Templar history? Godefroid the Bouillon, does that ring a bell?

The Templars were entrusted originally with the protection of the pilgrims to Jerusalem. They were a military order.

Later they became a political and financial order, which pissed off a certain king who ordered them to be disbanded.

But they did not went underground, they joined other Christian military orders. Did you read what I posted before?

What you say is a fairy tale because the masons can't imagine having no roots.

There is no link between the Templars and the Masons.

Masons did not "resurfaced" later, they were created in a time were it was popular to be in an esoteric secret society, like the rosicrucians or the illuminati.

*Godefroid de Bouillon

Anyone?

Silence gives consent I guess.

Do you guys really know everything about your orders?

Or just what is told generation after generation to further reinforce the glorious mythos of these organizations?

Just like people are never perfect, these orders too are far from perfect and have a few shadowy figures hiding in the corners of their history.

What is the political and worldwide agendas of the masons and rosicrucians and other secret societies? Do yo agree with it? Or there is none and it's only paranoia?

Or maybe you are just not in the confidence?

Otherwise, how to explain official document like this:
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clearly stating the ultimate political and social goal of these secret societies?

OP, what does a "real freemason" have to say about this?

HUBRIS

Frigging HUBRIS

he's either a low-ranked mason who have started to realize

or just - as I think it is - a test - to see what GLP would spit about that shit

well ... SHIT : D

LoL, I bet his mind will automatically close to these info, as it hates to be challenged about it's own beliefs.

Just like when you are in a sect for long enough, no matter what info is presented to you to prove you its purpose is to exploit you and your money, the person's mind will simply shut to any contradicting info.

The mind hates to challenge its own belief and to admit he was maybe wrong all the time.

I'm not saying masons are evil, just mislead by their hierarchy (who can become truly nut from the over-exposition to occult and esoteric lore).

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Ok...we are not out to fulfill the Merlin prophecy. We are also NOT the NWO which many associate us with.

I can tell you though who "THEY" are. IMHO "THEY" are the International Bankers which have setup a central bank in almost every western country which has stolen the wealth of the world and built up in insurmountable deficits and potentially bankrupting the system with a legal ponzi scheme and has corrupted the Governmenets of the same to help achieve the agenda's they have.

Unfortunately the economic system of the world is now in trouble and the system is on the verge of collapse because of all this.

Are some Masons part of the International Banker Groups? Probably, as a number of Masons are in positions of power and its those that shed a negative light on the Freemasons because a few bad apples had to spoil the bunch and make a very good organization look bad by association. Its sad really.

That's only your belief.

"just as soon as these things come to pass, then shall the Eagle soar over all things, and America will be the mistress of the world, though she will not rule through arms and politics, but by love and wisdom"

Page 14 of this Rosicrucian Manifesto.

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And I know from a high-level American mason that that belief is shared in these circles. The coming of a new age ushered by the US.

But it's truly typically Anglo-saxon, the other masons from other countries think this new-age is just global. Americans tends to have particularly patriotic interpretations of spiritual matters, just like American Christianity is very different from the rest of the world.

It's because the whole American culture is based on patriotism, hence the resulting imperialism.

I don't what they told you, but the masonic and prophetical agenda behind the creation of the US by the masons forefathers is well known in esoteric circles.

Way before all this NWO talk, the American seal contains their mark and the trace of their spiritual/political masonic agenda for the world.

Maybe you don't want to see it but it's useless to divert the attention to the bankers.

The bankers are allowed to do what they do today because the politicians let them do. And the politicians are much more tied to the masons.

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