The Real Freemason Secrets from a Real Freemason!

Yea, in Scotland the Templar SinClair founded Freemasons and was the first Grand Master. That is the link. In Portugal the Templars became the Knights of Christ. The pope absolved the Templars.

To say the Masons are older than the Templars is only tracing their history back thru Rome who is Babylonian and created the military order.

you people still dont get..

MASONS, TEMPLARS, KINGS, QUEENS, SLAVES, ALIENS - whatever it is - IF ITS HIDING KNOWLEDGE FROM HUMANITY - IT IS OUR ENEMY... .............................

Im spreading knowledge

like this - lost who knows since when...

Thread: Sun gazing - Calling only spiritual GLPers

TO THA MASONS, SNAKES, FAKES and all - WHY NOBODY WROTE THAT IN MY BOOKS IN SCHOOL aaaa ?????????


think about it

Of course! The information comes from many sources. Its vast collective of material of which is all out in open from sources such as Egypt, Babylon, Greece...etc The Masons didnt invent it!

I actually agree with most of your original post. I was just focusing in the first couple points of your post previously that I had an issue with. And I was trying to make a point that the secrets in Masonry aren't really secrets at all because anyone can find them. So we really arent keeping anything from anyone. Its a matter of perspective here.

People naturally evolve and progress through process of time. When they are ready for the knowledge they will naturally go and find it and its not hard to find its all out there. They just need to have an open mind and diligence to put in the work for understanding. You have to be at a certain point for certain things to make sense to you and make the connections. But the truth is everyone will get there eventually in their own natural progression as long as its within their will to do so.

The Masons and other mystery schools are not holding humanity back, they are just trying to help the ones that are ready along if they need it.

the information comes FROM ONE SOURCE

and stop ignoring my questions ..

I mean - I got first here ^_^

I know its incovinient for you to answer - but ask YOUR-HIGHER SELF - if there is one


WHY OTHERS HAVE NO RIGHT TO KNOW THE SAME AS YOU KNOW ???

aaa ?? tell me

and WHO decided ''who is ready'' READY??

READY FOR WHAT??? TO TELEPORT YA ASS OUT OF THIS UNIVERSE - YES I AM READY

The ultimate source of the information is of course God. God left clues in symbol like have stated earlier in this thread.

WuDStefoto: I have answered this several times. Its just not an answer you like. When you are ready you will search out the information for yourself. Yes the knowledge is encoded in the masonic symbols, but all the information can be found outside of Masonry already. Its out in the open you just have to look around for it.

But you really want to try to learn. You can follow the Masonic symbols for information will they will help guide you. You don't need to be a Mason. You can start by researching each of the symbols that Masonry has. Research the history, uses and information found with each one. The most important is the main symbol of the Compass and Square. Ask your self questions like: why would masons consider a the compass & square so important? Use the steps for researching the symbols that I layed out earlier in this thread and form progressions with each one. One thing leads to another..etc.etc.

But then also research the symbols for each of the degrees in Masonry. Every degree in Masonry has a symbol and thats important.

Start researching the 3 degrees of the blue lodge and research the symbols of the degrees of both the york rite and the Scottish rite.

If you can also study the allegories for each degree as they are also symbolic carrying deep meaning. You will need to do an exhaustive search of each symbol. Helps to be Mason when researching the allegories because what is listed in books isnt necessarily complete. Even small things done in our rituals carry important symbolism. But you can still find most of the info needed.

After you have done research for several symbols. Look to try to find the connection each symbol has to each other. When you find the answer to that question and sometimes there several you are now getting to the base line knowledge contained in the symbol.

Eventually all symbols will begin to connect to each other at a certain point and the symbolism of the allegories of masonry also fits in and adds important information.

The more searching you do the more knowledge you will attain and things will begin to make sense to you.

I cant understand why you keep pushing me your bulshit like you're'recruitin'' WTF IS WRONG WITH U ? are you human at all???????

Im startin to doubt that something left (if ever had)

you tellin me "" The ultimate source of the information is of course God. God left clues in symbol like have stated earlier in this thread. ""



GET OFF THAT PILLS DRUGS OR WHATEVER



GOD DWELLS IN EACH HUMAN, each living thing-each thing!! - true - (who didnt SOLD HIS SOUL).. if ever had one...
so GOD HASNT GONE ANYWHERE

AND RATS ARE GONNA FRY THIS YEAR

OMLETS ^_^

So I think I need to clarify something here.

I think I was a bit hasty in judging your posts. And didn't take the time to consider them from another point of view as should of and so I am sorry for that and being judgmental. I was dealing with allot of negative posts yesterday.

If you meant that Freemasonry supports the MALE fallen Angel "Lucifer"..Then the answer is NO.

However if meant that Freemasonry supports "A Lucifer" meaning the planet Venus which is what its referred to when it rises before the sun and represents a Goddess such as Aphrodite?? Then YES..Of course!!!

Freemasons revere the GODDESS that is Venus as she shines brightly in the sky and is very beautiful and divine. She is the TRUE COMPANION to the SUN as they travel together as a pair from E. to W. each day. Together they create much light.

Well said, Brother.

I DONT WANT YOU TO TELL ME SHIT

I JUST WANT YOU TO LEAVE THE ONLY PLACE AT LEAST YOU ONLY WATCH -0 NOT INTERFERED - BUT ARE SO DESPERATE AND PATETHIC - THAT YOU WILL BRING ALL UR SERVANTS ONLINE

SO SAD

I agree, GAOTU, the morning star, venus, all are Lucifer and that is for whom they "revere", chant incantations, perform sacred rituals including blood oaths, and walk calling to the four corners of the earth for Loosh while traveling their worthy path to resurrection.

a no ??? ^^

Hahahaha......funny line, there fella.
King of the castle stuff eh?
Grow up sonny.!

This is were your wrong about people seeking out this information.
The masonic knowledge that you have learned and what's out there is superficial in it's context.
There are departments in any secret society...whoever that entails.

If you look through the ages..you'll find a certain part of humanity has seeked and remembered that knowledge through there incarnations on earth.
The rest don't know about it at all.

There are a few reasons for this.

The main two secret society's that are pronanced in our world today are the masons and illuminati.

The two of them have sections that are segregated through there systems that others have no knowledge about.

Don't say that they don't, because I know that they do.
These two are not the TPTP.

To give you an explanation on how things work in the system.

Things are left to fluorish on there own accord with no interference.
Because of the energy that's permeated through our history...which I've written about on one of my threads.

Our awareness has created a need to hide behind a viel of silence when it comes to certain knowledge about the unseen.


These secret society's sprang up from a certain manipulation in our history.
They basically took there own course and growth up until now.

What knowledge is known and seen through humanity from these secret society's is flimsy at best.

The die was cast when they sprang up in our ancient past.

In our history before these two sercret society's...there were many mystery schools through most of the ancient cultures.

These schools were put in place for the inception of what has happened in today's world.


you can read about the rest in my threads...

the history of the elite
the primal grid..tha ancient missing link of humanity.

I've just expanded some of the history here but there is more to it.



Even the religious institutions are not them..that includes the black pope.

All of the set up is left to run on it's own device..in humanity you will have people that are put in these society's...they reach a certain powerful position in that society and they get drunk on power.

This is how the state of things work.


Lets say for an example...originally there were a select few who went down this path...they must of been very knowledgeable to put everything together.
And I mean very inteligent.

Now...once a set up is put in place...it flourishes on it's own accord...it doesn't need these people to dictate things.

There are many factions that operate through this system...by having all these factions...they divide and scatter all information into a huge web like puzzle.

It makes things more confusing..so if you look at the bigger picture, you can see what I'm getting at.

When you set up goverments to rule..you set up division and conquer.
This has occured right through history.

It doesn't need the select few to run this system...now do you get the picture.

There are no TPTP...NOT LIKE PEOPLE THINK.

What would happen to me if I dressed up like a zombie freemason for halloween this year?

You'd be ignored.

ahahah at least I think they've heard me ..

hope so - cuz I will attack''em everywhere I see them fakz

You kidding me? Since when do the devil worshipers do charity?
You're trying to hard to seem "good", it doesn't suit you.
Most likely you're just a poor soul deceived by Satanists.
My advice to you is: GET OUT while you still can! Why should you die? Find SDA christians, they have the TRUTH which Satan hates. Don't believe me? Ask your high priest about SDA and what does "the master" think of them...

Whether or not the Freemasons worship 'Satan' might well be debatable but it is easy to see why people would believe this considering we have quotes by the man whose writings single-handedly revived the dying tradition of the Scottish Rite after the 'Morgan Affair' that rocked the order in America. Albert Pike said things like:

"That which we must say to the crowd is - We worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition.
To you Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees - The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine....Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay is also God."

"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!" (Morals and Dogma, p.321)

So yes, it is arguable whether masons worship "Satan" but this is an argument of semantics. Lucifer is the creature that rebelled against God according to the Holy Bible, he is also referred to as Satan in his current fallen condition. And here's the thing, non-masons have been accused on this thread as being confounded by their own religious dogmas when trying to understand freemasonry, but freemasonry itself is rife with it's own confounding dogmas. These dogmas induce a Mason to deny the God of the Bible, but Masons believe that their membership to masonry and religion are mutually compatible. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Masonry is for all intents and purposes a religion, defined as: The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods. Details of belief as taught or discussed (or moral teaching). Freemasonry requires the belief in a super-human creator and claims to be a 'system of morality'. What is the difference? Again this is argument of semantics as freemasonry does fulfill the definition of a religion.

Masonry is a religion "Every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." (Morals and Dogma, p.213. The instructions of this religion requires one to be anti-religious and anti-God. Take the oaths for example...a requirement of membership - it asks men to swear an oath by God that they will have their flesh cut if they reveal the secrets of the degrees. Firstly the very act of swearing an oath, especially a blood curdling oath, contradicts the prohibition on swearing oaths in the Bible. "Swear no oaths, not even to me." Secondly, if a man joins up, but doesn't fully appreciate what he's getting involved with, maybe he's joining to make business connections, further his career or to get away from the wife for a couple of hours a week, he might swear this oath on his lips but not mean it in his heart, he might be doing it vainly just to get in. If so the mason is taking the lords name in vein creating a catch-22 situation where the new initiate is bound, one way or the other, to go against the teachings of the bible and this is just the tip of the ice-berg.

Biblical references are rife in Freemasonry throughout the world. The rebuilding of the temple of Solomon, the refernce to biblical characters like Hiram Abiff, the Juwes and the requirement of 32nd degree (Scottish Rite) and Knights Templar degree (York Rite)rituals to take holy communion from a human skull swearing that they will take upon them all their own sins and the sins of the skull, not to mention the requirement for members to be christian to enter the Knights Templar degree, one has to ask...why all the warped biblical references?

If masons truly have proof in the existence of God than why not share it with the world without requiring blood oaths and ritual initiation ceremonies. Could it be that the proof they have is simply for the 'god of this world'; aka Lucifer, and that the initial requirement of the belief in a 'supreme creator' is gradually molded and changed in the mind of the mason as he progresses through the degrees - shaped and manipulated until such time that the mason is ready to accept the 'truth', as the OP said 'If you’re not ready you won’t get through all the layers', only those deemed to be acceptable candidates will be made initiates to these secrets. One must be prepared gradually to accept what then appears to be a logical conclusion; that the 'god' you believed in all along is in fact Lucifer..."doubt it not". You see you can't just come out and say that, you need to do it in such a meticulous manner that the initiate will accept the statement as being logically true, hence the initiations into higher knowledge and deeper understanding. No matter what your religious beliefs are it's clear the Masons have them and that they're geared up toward denying the Bible...this causes an inquisitive mind like me to ask why?

The whole thing with Lucifer in the bible was that he challenged the sovereignty and supremacy of the Creator and that he continued this war after he was cast down by trying to win mans worship and their souls. One thing is obvious though, he is a created being and as such never can be greater than his Creator because a thing cannot have greater power than that from which its power is derived. Could it be that Masons, a lot of them good decent people, have been deceived into worship of Lucifer the light bearer?

It is not me who says that Freemasons “...worship a God, but it is the God that one adores without superstition. To you Sovereign Grand Inspectors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees - The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine.... " (Occult Theocrasy, p.220-221) or that "The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry" (Morals and Dogma, p.819) but the most revered and respected Albert Pike. Himself referred to as a ‘Sovereign Grand Inspector General’. Why is it that this man is so highly regarded by masons if not for the fact that real masons ‘in the know’; the sort that wouldn’t be bothered with internet forums, know that what Pike preaches is the true teachings of Freemasonry. There’s a 50ft statue of him in Washington and he was a leader in the confederate army for crying out loud!?! Think about this.

"Albert Pike remains today an inspiration for Masons everywhere. His great book Morals and Dogma endures as the most complete exposition of Scottish Rite philosophy. He will always be remembered and revered as the Master Builder of the Scottish Rite." (The House of the Temple of the Supreme Council 1988)

If you disagree you are disagreeing with Pike himself and will need to provide better citations from a Mason with higher credentials than he had. You could try Aleister Crowley who was said to have thousands of medals and mastered many degrees. He was an out and out Satanist who happened to believe in the letter of the Bible; although clearly associating himself with the Beast of Revelation so he might not be the best reference.

Lets be clear here; it is wrong to say that all masons are evil just by being members. But it is also a fallacy to say that Freemasonry is good simply because you know good people who happen to be members or that its obviously good because its charitable (the Rothschilds are charitable too, it’s a front so people can say exactly what has been said on this forum: they must be good because they wouldn’t give to charity otherwise). To understand the secret agenda you need to think like they think, not like good honest people think. Yes it is wrong to say that all masons are evil but is it wrong to consider Freemasonry as an organisation that deceives good men? Perhaps even some reading this post.

I know that this will be difficult for some masons to believe or accept as no one wants to accept they have been deceived let alone admit it. This post might be met with resistance and conflict (I do hope it does not create anger in any Freemason readers) but we cannot ignore the obvious in light of the evidence. Yes the freemasons do have secrets and they have been coming to light over many years – today the internet allows us to access information that was previously reserved for the higher initiates and all the information indicates that Freemasonry, behind the veil, is concerned with the worship of Lucifer and all that entails.

1. First problem is you think you understand the bible when in fact you do not. The bible is a highly encoded piece of work which can provide a great understanding of the universe but you don't do it justice!! You seem to think that its just a book of morality.

2. The information is only hidden because of the religious dogma you find yourself in. Your dogma blinds you and keeps you from understanding.

Idolatry in symbols.. Worshipping symbols and a Worshipful Master who is just a man>? God is going to chicken-fry you boyz.. Try SPF 1,000,000.

The Freemasons' God is Lucifer himself. Lucifer is Corrupt. Therefore Lucifer is very bad. Not all Dragons are Corrupt nor evil, just as not all Humans are Corrupt and or evil.

Your lord also said to go pray in your closet, yet this is where we find the homosexual perverts when not in the cloak of priest or government.

Man can look under any rock and find God, he does not need to destroy half the world and murder the rest to point out what is apparent.

Op, you full of bs, or seriously been lied to.

Worshipful Master is simply one worthy of respect. Pfft

Wrong...That's for playing!!

If you quote bible verses to me you only make yourself look stupid. The bible was never meant to be in the hands of the profane as they would never understand it. Its unfortunate but true.

Also we do not worship symbols WE LEARN FROM THEM...sheesh

They are simply the protestant arm of the catholic church.

The vatican controls all sides because the game was rigged from the start.