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Pasteurized, Homogenized Milk from the San Francisco Bay Area with Best By Date of 12/29/2011

Cs-134: 0.068 Becquerels/liter (Bq/l) ±0.011 [MDA=0.044]
Cs-137: 0.075 Bq/l ±0.015 [MDA=0.052]
Total cesium is .143 Bq/l, or 3.87 picocuries/l (pCi/l) (1 Bq = 27.1 pCi).

The EPA Maximum Contaminant Level for radioactive cesium in milk is 3 pCi/l:

“EPA lumps these gamma and beta emitters together under one collective MCL [Maximum Contaminant Level], so if you’re seeing cesium-137 in your milk or water, the MCL is 3.0 picocuries per liter; if you’re seeing iodine-131, the MCL is 3.0; if you’re seeing cesium-137 and iodine-131, the MCL is still 3.0.” -Forbes.com

Current levels are about 40% higher than what was detected 6 months ago:

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]
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The data from Berkley shows a spike in March and it has gone down ever since and is back down to normal levels.

These are very small levels of radiation we are talking about. If you leaned against a granite wall for a while you'd get more radiation exposure.

But whatever, keep on listening to retards on some random website who have no idea what they are talking about.
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
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Thread: **RADIATION PROTECTION**- non prescription list, revised and updated.


In My Opinion....


- stay out of the rain if you can

Don't eat.

- mushrooms

- seafood

- seaweed

- garden produce

- meat from grazers(including wild game)

Look for canned or dry food produced before March.

Cesium mimcs potassium. Last summer's gardens are contaminated. Turn your soil before spring planting. As deep as you can.
Hydroponics if you can for fresh vegetables.
You can grow mushrooms in your basement or a closet in a plastic bag full of straw.

Rabbits can be a food supply. Keep them penned and feed only old(before 3.11.11) grain food.
Chickens, same.
Calf, same.
Pigs, same.

Take care of the children.

Good luck.

~
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Fear monger much?
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8548676


Oh and if anyone dare call me a "shill" or a "troll" or whatever you like to call them...look at yourself in the mirror. You think what you want and don't understand the facts..and if it is not DOOM then we are automatically "shills"? Give me a fucking break and learn science
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
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Oh and if anyone dare call me a "shill" or a "troll" or whatever you like to call them...look at yourself in the mirror. You think what you want and don't understand the facts..and if it is not DOOM then we are automatically "shills"? Give me a fucking break and learn science
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
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know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8548676


know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


No not a whole lot and I don't pretend to. Just saying I trust my family who works in a nuclear plant then anyone other. The exams and tests they have to take to work in a place like this is unreal. Basically perfect or nothing.
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8548676


know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8548676


know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
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5a

Well said!
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Pasteurized, Homogenized Milk from the San Francisco Bay Area with Best By Date of 12/29/2011

Cs-134: 0.068 Becquerels/liter (Bq/l) ±0.011 [MDA=0.044]
Cs-137: 0.075 Bq/l ±0.015 [MDA=0.052]
Total cesium is .143 Bq/l, or 3.87 picocuries/l (pCi/l) (1 Bq = 27.1 pCi).

The EPA Maximum Contaminant Level for radioactive cesium in milk is 3 pCi/l:

“EPA lumps these gamma and beta emitters together under one collective MCL [Maximum Contaminant Level], so if you’re seeing cesium-137 in your milk or water, the MCL is 3.0 picocuries per liter; if you’re seeing iodine-131, the MCL is 3.0; if you’re seeing cesium-137 and iodine-131, the MCL is still 3.0.” -Forbes.com

Current levels are about 40% higher than what was detected 6 months ago:

[link to www.nuc.berkeley.edu]
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Id say this is why all the wierd herbivore mutilations recently, their checking out how much we're going to glow.
If normality is the measure of how well adjusted one is to a profoundly sick society,
then i dont ever want to be normal.
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I know that it is in our water..We have water osmosis, but our cows are drinking it..
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
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I don't think I would stress the word impossible. Yes, some radionuclides have short half lives, others do not. Under normal operations I doubt it would be a problem....BUT, and BIG BUT at that, these reactors were blown to hell. There is NO prior history to base data on so neither you, nor your brother in law, can possibly tell us what the affects are.
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Thread: **RADIATION PROTECTION**- non prescription list, revised and updated.


In My Opinion....


- stay out of the rain if you can

Don't eat.

- mushrooms

- seafood

- seaweed

- garden produce

- meat from grazers(including wild game)

Look for canned or dry food produced before March.

Cesium mimcs potassium. Last summer's gardens are contaminated. Turn your soil before spring planting. As deep as you can.
Hydroponics if you can for fresh vegetables.
You can grow mushrooms in your basement or a closet in a plastic bag full of straw.

Rabbits can be a food supply. Keep them penned and feed only old(before 3.11.11) grain food.
Chickens, same.
Calf, same.
Pigs, same.

Take care of the children.

Good luck.

~
bug
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I REFUSE TO DEFEND MYSELF. FROM THIS DAY FORWARD I WILL EAT MUSHROOMS, SEAFOOD, SEAWEED, GARDEN PRODUCE, MEAT FROM GRAZERS INCLUDING WILD GAME AND WASH IT DOWN WITH MILKhorn
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8548676


I don't think I would stress the word impossible. Yes, some radionuclides have short half lives, others do not. Under normal operations I doubt it would be a problem....BUT, and BIG BUT at that, these reactors were blown to hell. There is NO prior history to base data on so neither you, nor your brother in law, can possibly tell us what the affects are.
 Quoting: Southern OR


Am-241 - 432.2 years
Am-242 - 16.02 hours
Am-242m - 152 years
Am-243 - 7380 years
Ca-41 - 1.3E5 years
Ca-47 - 4.53 days
C-11 - 20.38 minutes
C-14 - 5730 years
Cs-134 - 2.062 years
Cs-134m - 2.90 hours
Cs-135 - 2.3E6 years
Cs-136 - 13.1 days
Cs-137 - 30.0 years
Cs-138 - 32.2 minutes
I-123 - 13.2 hours
I-125 - 60.14 days
I-129 - 1.57E7 years
I-130 - 12.36 hours
I-131 - 8.04 days
I-132 - 2.30 hours
I-133 - 20.8 hours
I-134 - 52.6 minutes
I-135 - 6.61 hours
U-232 - 72 years
U-233 - 1.59E5 years
U-234 - 2.445E5 years
U-235 - 7.03E8 years
U-236 - 2.34E7 years
U-237 - 6.75 days
U-238 - 4.47E9 years
U-240 - 14.1 hours
etc etc etc

tepco are just not sharing all of them... and they lie... they can measure them, and they know the breakdown cycles from one element to the next...

[link to www.iem-inc.com]

and an interesting lesson-plan on half-life...
[link to www.esrl.noaa.gov]

Last Edited by Citizenperth on 01/16/2012 11:22 PM
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They can't handle the truth.
Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Go to sleep little sheepy.

Oh well. There are strange noises going on. That is much more important. How about a good fart thread. That will get you a pin.

I so hope I'm wrong about all this. But I just don't think I am.
Where are all the dang shills? They should be all over this.

Bio-accumulation. It's what's for dinner.

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we're already fucked. everyone knows it, but nobody cares.
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8548676


know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
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There is nothing in the natural environment that causes cancer. In ancient times before coal smoke stacks were spewing off uranium, cancer was unheard of. You're right we all haven't die of cancer, but many people have ever since the industrial age. You can't prove small amounts of radiation over a prolonged period are harmless. Of course Fukushima isn't going to kill everyone, but to suggest it will have zero impact at all on anything is absurd.
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Time for LOVE CANAL type of lawsuit.


US Citizens Class Action Lawsuit vs TEPCO


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They also tested on San Fran in the past...it is obviously a test city. Anyway remember during the holocaust they murdered gays too...they are probably getting rid of the liberal and gays in that town as they can't stray from future establishment. They will obviously keep testing that hippie, gay, liberal city as shown they have done in the past. I'm sure LA, FL, CA and more are getting tested on like they did at Galvenston Tx.
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for fucks sakes people! It is NOT the radiation. My brother in law works at a nuclear power plant up here in Canada. It is IMPOSSIBLE for radiation to travel through air this far from Japan to North America. Radiation breaks up by halves every so often so by the time it would reach the States or Canada..it will be all but dispersed.

PLEASE stop whining and crying about some radiation from a country that is across the ocean, it does not affect us in the least.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8548676


know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8954905


There is nothing in the natural environment that causes cancer. In ancient times before coal smoke stacks were spewing off uranium, cancer was unheard of. You're right we all haven't die of cancer, but many people have ever since the industrial age. You can't prove small amounts of radiation over a prolonged period are harmless. Of course Fukushima isn't going to kill everyone, but to suggest it will have zero impact at all on anything is absurd.
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There are plenty of things in the environment that cause cancer. Prolonged and excessive solar radiation, HPV and other viruses, and most importantly - living a long time.

Cancer was "unheard of" just like HIV and numerous other diseases were "unheard of" - people hadn't discovered them yet. When people lived to be 30 years old they aren't going to die from cancer.

Hell, untreated it will take years for cancer to kill you.

Substances like uranium and plutonium are biologically inert - they pass right through you - they do not "bio-accumulate."

Life evolved under radiation from every source. You have it in your bones from potassium and from carbon-14 throughout your body. There is zero evidence that low-level radiation causes cancer. In fact, the opposite is likely true since the cancer rates in the country tend to be the lowest in the areas with the highest background radiation.

If you think cancer didn't exist before the industrial revolution, you know the thing that has greatly extended your lifespan and provides you with numerous comforts, then you are an idiot who has been brainwashed into being scared of his own shadow.
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They can't handle the truth.
Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Go to sleep little sheepy.

Oh well. There are strange noises going on. That is much more important. How about a good fart thread. That will get you a pin.

I so hope I'm wrong about all this. But I just don't think I am.
Where are all the dang shills? They should be all over this.

Bio-accumulation. It's what's for dinner.

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bug
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we're already fucked. everyone knows it, but nobody cares.
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@AC8883938 thanks for the pick up...


@bug...

they got too busy on my two other "news" threads to notice this one obviously.... silly bastards think i'm an easy target ;)... they love me.... maybe the shills are making a pro-nuke thread or a fart one.... or i'm from tepco... ask me a question thread....

maybe they're to scared to jerk off the US.....

see if i can bait them....

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Radiation is so harmless that technicians giving X-rays don't need their lead aprons.

Space capsules are not shielded. Waste of money.

Nuclear reactors are not triple-contained. What for? The products of fission are all safe for human consumption.

Sunburns are harmless. Sunblock is for sissies.

Radioisotope particulate is not being deposited world-wide by atmospheric transport. That is impossible.

Plutonium passes right through you. No worries.

Suck it up. Take a deep breath.

It's all good. They said so.

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EPA doesn't regulate milk, FDA does.

FDA's limit is 33000 pCi/l, or about 132,000 pCi/gallon.

[link to www.fda.gov]

Make of it what you will.
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You tell them, bug !

Are you the ' water bug ' from last April, May, etc. posting on radiation threads ?

Sheeple are TOO LAZY to take any action, UNTIL they have one or MORE of the symptoms of CUMULATIVE radiation poisoning, which MOST have been experiencing since September. However, many are like/mimic OTHER helth problems, so they do NOTHING !

When 10 - 20 percent of these same people have various gland problems, because the MASTER GLAND that controls them by secretions, NO LONGER functions properly, then OFF to the doctors to be soothed/lied too/put off till it's MUCH TOO LATE.

But by then, other 2012 woes will probably have kicked in and they will spend their dying days " envying the dead !"

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Yep. Downsized to bug.

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know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
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There is nothing in the natural environment that causes cancer. In ancient times before coal smoke stacks were spewing off uranium, cancer was unheard of. You're right we all haven't die of cancer, but many people have ever since the industrial age. You can't prove small amounts of radiation over a prolonged period are harmless. Of course Fukushima isn't going to kill everyone, but to suggest it will have zero impact at all on anything is absurd.
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There are plenty of things in the environment that cause cancer. Prolonged and excessive solar radiation, HPV and other viruses, and most importantly - living a long time.

Cancer was "unheard of" just like HIV and numerous other diseases were "unheard of" - people hadn't discovered them yet. When people lived to be 30 years old they aren't going to die from cancer.

Hell, untreated it will take years for cancer to kill you.

Substances like uranium and plutonium are biologically inert - they pass right through you - they do not "bio-accumulate."

Life evolved under radiation from every source. You have it in your bones from potassium and from carbon-14 throughout your body. There is zero evidence that low-level radiation causes cancer. In fact, the opposite is likely true since the cancer rates in the country tend to be the lowest in the areas with the highest background radiation.

If you think cancer didn't exist before the industrial revolution, you know the thing that has greatly extended your lifespan and provides you with numerous comforts, then you are an idiot who has been brainwashed into being scared of his own shadow.
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Tell that shit to this guy...

Cancer-Riddled Wind River Reservation Fights EPA Over Uranium Contamination

Read more: [link to indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com] [link to indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com]

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Kenny Slattery has lived on the Wind River Reservation for 51 years, and just across the street from the old Susquehanna-Western uranium mill tailings pile for that entire period of time. “They say there’s a cancer cluster in this area,” says Slattery. “I don’t know, but my mother died of lung cancer, and my father died of prostate cancer. My cousin’s husband died of esophageal cancer just a half-mile from here, and other people have died from cancer around this area too. Dogs have died of cancer. It’s strange.”

Read more: [link to indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com] [link to indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com]

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So now that you people are starting to realize you have been murdered by the Rockefellar family, How are you going to pay for the funerals of you and your families?
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know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8954905


There is nothing in the natural environment that causes cancer. In ancient times before coal smoke stacks were spewing off uranium, cancer was unheard of. You're right we all haven't die of cancer, but many people have ever since the industrial age. You can't prove small amounts of radiation over a prolonged period are harmless. Of course Fukushima isn't going to kill everyone, but to suggest it will have zero impact at all on anything is absurd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296906


There are plenty of things in the environment that cause cancer. Prolonged and excessive solar radiation, HPV and other viruses, and most importantly - living a long time.

Cancer was "unheard of" just like HIV and numerous other diseases were "unheard of" - people hadn't discovered them yet. When people lived to be 30 years old they aren't going to die from cancer.

Hell, untreated it will take years for cancer to kill you.

Substances like uranium and plutonium are biologically inert - they pass right through you - they do not "bio-accumulate."

Life evolved under radiation from every source. You have it in your bones from potassium and from carbon-14 throughout your body. There is zero evidence that low-level radiation causes cancer. In fact, the opposite is likely true since the cancer rates in the country tend to be the lowest in the areas with the highest background radiation.

If you think cancer didn't exist before the industrial revolution, you know the thing that has greatly extended your lifespan and provides you with numerous comforts, then you are an idiot who has been brainwashed into being scared of his own shadow.
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Learn the difference between NORMs (naturally occurring radioactive materials) and man made radiation please. Quit trying to downplay something you obviously know little to nothing about.

And if you think that cancer rates haven't risen exponentially since the the 1800s, then you have lost the ability to reason. Ask any renowned health care expert and they will tell you that the BIGGEST concern for the health care industry today is environmental toxicity.


Oh, and by the way -- viruses are not natural.
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know much about radiation? don't think so... look up the half lives of ALL of the elements, not just iodine and cesium....

it has been recorded in the mass media as well, not just on conspiracy sites....
 Quoting: citizenperth


How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8954905


There is nothing in the natural environment that causes cancer. In ancient times before coal smoke stacks were spewing off uranium, cancer was unheard of. You're right we all haven't die of cancer, but many people have ever since the industrial age. You can't prove small amounts of radiation over a prolonged period are harmless. Of course Fukushima isn't going to kill everyone, but to suggest it will have zero impact at all on anything is absurd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296906


There are plenty of things in the environment that cause cancer. Prolonged and excessive solar radiation, HPV and other viruses, and most importantly - living a long time.

Cancer was "unheard of" just like HIV and numerous other diseases were "unheard of" - people hadn't discovered them yet. When people lived to be 30 years old they aren't going to die from cancer.

Hell, untreated it will take years for cancer to kill you.

Substances like uranium and plutonium are biologically inert - they pass right through you - they do not "bio-accumulate."

Life evolved under radiation from every source. You have it in your bones from potassium and from carbon-14 throughout your body. There is zero evidence that low-level radiation causes cancer. In fact, the opposite is likely true since the cancer rates in the country tend to be the lowest in the areas with the highest background radiation.

If you think cancer didn't exist before the industrial revolution, you know the thing that has greatly extended your lifespan and provides you with numerous comforts, then you are an idiot who has been brainwashed into being scared of his own shadow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8954905



Learn the difference between NORMs (naturally occurring radioactive materials) and man made radiation please. Quit trying to downplay something you obviously know little to nothing about.

And if you think that cancer rates haven't risen exponentially since the the 1800s, then you have lost the ability to reason. Ask any renowned health care expert and they will tell you that the BIGGEST concern for the health care industry today is environmental toxicity.


Oh, and by the way -- viruses are not natural.
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How cares about half-lives? Let's talk about diffusion. You think I should be worried about a little bit of cesium smoking out of a plant on the other side of the planet?

The coal plants in the US emit TONS (you know, 2000 pounds per ton) of uranium and other radioactive elements into the atmosphere every year and have been doing it for decades.

We haven't we all died of cancer? This crap simply isn't that harmful and the atmosphere is very VERY big, you have no idea how big it is and how much these elements get diluted.

Telling me to worry about Fukushima is just retarded. We put more radioactive particles into the air locally in one day than Fukushima has put out - much less reached us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8954905


There is nothing in the natural environment that causes cancer. In ancient times before coal smoke stacks were spewing off uranium, cancer was unheard of. You're right we all haven't die of cancer, but many people have ever since the industrial age. You can't prove small amounts of radiation over a prolonged period are harmless. Of course Fukushima isn't going to kill everyone, but to suggest it will have zero impact at all on anything is absurd.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296906


There are plenty of things in the environment that cause cancer. Prolonged and excessive solar radiation, HPV and other viruses, and most importantly - living a long time.

Cancer was "unheard of" just like HIV and numerous other diseases were "unheard of" - people hadn't discovered them yet. When people lived to be 30 years old they aren't going to die from cancer.

Hell, untreated it will take years for cancer to kill you.

Substances like uranium and plutonium are biologically inert - they pass right through you - they do not "bio-accumulate."

Life evolved under radiation from every source. You have it in your bones from potassium and from carbon-14 throughout your body. There is zero evidence that low-level radiation causes cancer. In fact, the opposite is likely true since the cancer rates in the country tend to be the lowest in the areas with the highest background radiation.

If you think cancer didn't exist before the industrial revolution, you know the thing that has greatly extended your lifespan and provides you with numerous comforts, then you are an idiot who has been brainwashed into being scared of his own shadow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8954905



Learn the difference between NORMs (naturally occurring radioactive materials) and man made radiation please. Quit trying to downplay something you obviously know little to nothing about.

And if you think that cancer rates haven't risen exponentially since the the 1800s, then you have lost the ability to reason. Ask any renowned health care expert and they will tell you that the BIGGEST concern for the health care industry today is environmental toxicity.


Oh, and by the way -- viruses are not natural.
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No cancer history in previous recent generations and yet, my father , my three uncles,my sister, two aunts, two grandmothers, all dead from cancer. Five of them within 3 years of each other. My three living siblings with cancer. None of whom lived near a nuclear power plant or munitions facility. But all who at one time or another lived in California near San Francisco in the shadows of the Berkeley Labs and Livermore Labs and Stanford University.

They say the labs have been contaminating the area since the fifties and that the water in the bay has had significant readings for decades.
The military used to dismantle the nuclear Navy vessels at various locations throughout the bay which would clearly have contributed.
They also used the Farrallon Islands as a nuclear waste facility for and extended period of time. They still do above air testing at Livermore labs in Tracy of depleted uranium.

And it is also entirely possible that the military and it's above ground testing in nearby Nevada for decades contaminated the air as well as soil in this region. The ocean, it's tributaries, as well as sea life is compromised by radiation, the soil in which the beautiful foods and wines of the the Napa and Sonoma valley is compromised, the entire area has been a receptacle of nuclear waste since it's inception.

And my family , like so many others, has been decimated by the scourge of this heinous science of a few men, who decided for the rest of humanity how it was all going to play out.

The governing bodies of this country have been obscuring the truth about radiation dangers from day one . Do you really think they plan on changing the long held policy now?

My sage wisdom, wrought from profound loss, is absolutely not.......

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