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IMPORTANT! - Fluoride Linked to #1 Cause of Death in New Research

 
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oh its ShillAirlines. Our thread has too much truth in it !!!
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oh its ShillAirlines. Our thread has too much truth in it !!!
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It does now that I posted the original study...

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oh its ShillAirlines. Our thread has too much truth in it !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309513


It does now that I posted the original study...

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"And after you found out all this, would it surprise you that federal health agencies have known these facts for years, but have been controlled by the political interests of the nuclear arms, aluminum, and phosphate manufacturers to keep it a secret?

Why would they do that? So that a toxic industrial waste could be passed off on the public as a nutrient with necessary health benefits, to the tune of $10 billion a year or more going in the pockets of these industries rather then they having to spend that amount to dispose of it properly as a toxic waste."
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oh its ShillAirlines. Our thread has too much truth in it !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309513


It does now that I posted the original study...

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 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


"And after you found out all this, would it surprise you that federal health agencies have known these facts for years, but have been controlled by the political interests of the nuclear arms, aluminum, and phosphate manufacturers to keep it a secret?

Why would they do that? So that a toxic industrial waste could be passed off on the public as a nutrient with necessary health benefits, to the tune of $10 billion a year or more going in the pockets of these industries rather then they having to spend that amount to dispose of it properly as a toxic waste."
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Better stop drinking bottled 'Spring Water', because most deep well water has more naturally occurring fluoride (as 'fluorine') than the public water supplies you are complaining about...

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oh its ShillAirlines. Our thread has too much truth in it !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309513


It does now that I posted the original study...

laugh
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


"And after you found out all this, would it surprise you that federal health agencies have known these facts for years, but have been controlled by the political interests of the nuclear arms, aluminum, and phosphate manufacturers to keep it a secret?

Why would they do that? So that a toxic industrial waste could be passed off on the public as a nutrient with necessary health benefits, to the tune of $10 billion a year or more going in the pockets of these industries rather then they having to spend that amount to dispose of it properly as a toxic waste."
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I've heard this said before. twisted people, the lot of them.
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I've heard this said before.
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Ma hearn it at the Drugstore, and I hearn it down at the barber, so then it MUST be true...

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oh its ShillAirlines. Our thread has too much truth in it !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309513


It does now that I posted the original study...

laugh
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


"And after you found out all this, would it surprise you that federal health agencies have known these facts for years, but have been controlled by the political interests of the nuclear arms, aluminum, and phosphate manufacturers to keep it a secret?

Why would they do that? So that a toxic industrial waste could be passed off on the public as a nutrient with necessary health benefits, to the tune of $10 billion a year or more going in the pockets of these industries rather then they having to spend that amount to dispose of it properly as a toxic waste."
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Better stop drinking bottled 'Spring Water', because most deep well water has more naturally occurring fluoride (as 'fluorine') than the public water supplies you are complaining about...

popcorn
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Silly, I was just responding to the shill aspect of it. Then why not just mine the flourine then? Seems kinda round about to derive it as an industrial waste from the above industries. Oh right. I forgot. We don’t mine it directly here in the States because of regulations.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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And the info just keeps on coming...
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"And this bizarre story begins at phosphate mining companies. Phosphate is an important mineral used in fertilizers. It's mined from natural rock deposits scattered across the world, and the phosphate rock is then refined to produce phosphoric acid. If that name sounds familiar, that's because it's one of the main ingredients in carbonated sodas such as Coke and Pepsi. Phosphoric acid is often compared to battery acid. It's a highly acidic liquid that is believed to be the primary reason why drinking sodas can result in kidney stones and a loss of bone mineral density.

Phosphate rock is also used to create fertilizers. The problem is, phosphate is often contaminated with high levels of fluoride -- as much as 40,000 parts per million, or up to 4% of the raw ore. To remove the fluoride, sulfuric acid is added to a wet slurry of phosphate and water. This causes the fluoride to vaporize, creating highly toxic gaseous compounds such as hydrogen fluoride and silicon tetrafluoride.

These toxic fluoride chemicals used to be released directly from the smokestacks of phosphate mining operations, but the nearby farms suffered devastating losses of cattle and food crops which withered away and died due to... guess what? Fluoride poisoning.

In order to stop this environmental destruction, the phosphate mining industry put in place a way to capture the toxic fluoride chemical vapors so that they wouldn't be released into the air and kill the surrounding livestock and vegetation. This was accomplished by installing "wet scrubbers" that captured the toxic fluoride chemicals, preventing them from being released into the environment and killing the plant and animal life living nearby.

It is from these wet scrubbers that toxic fluoride chemicals are now harvested. They're collected, re-packaged, shipped to your local city, then dumped into the municipal water supply. So instead of these toxic fluoride chemicals being released by the phosphate mining smokestacks, they are instead captured, and then released into the water supply of large cities where the chemicals then contaminate the water of millions of people at a time.

This is called water fluoridation."
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Just so where it really comes from does’t get lost on the other page.
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"Hydrogen fluoride is a hazardous air pollutant that is a highly corrosive and systemic poison that causes severe and sometimes delayed health effects due to deep tissue penetration. Absorption of substantial amounts of hydrogen fluoride by any route may be fatal.

One of the hydraulic fracturing companies used 67 222 gallons of two products containing hydrogen fluoride in 2008 and 2009."
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Sorry didn’t mean to exclude the ‘natural’ gas industry.
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So long story short. We are well beyond our teeth or FDA non approved drug comas or the newest study on the health issues of it, the version we get it from is an industrial waste and controlled by big interest. Though I still do brush with baking soda if anyone wants to know that.

Last Edited by Metanoia on 01/17/2012 04:26 PM
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Then why not just mine the flourine then? Seems kinda round about to derive it as an industrial waste from the above industries. Oh right. I forgot. We don’t mine it directly here in the States because of regulations.
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Can you show me these 'regulations'?

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oh its ShillAirlines. Our thread has too much truth in it !!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309513


It does now that I posted the original study...

laugh
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


"And after you found out all this, would it surprise you that federal health agencies have known these facts for years, but have been controlled by the political interests of the nuclear arms, aluminum, and phosphate manufacturers to keep it a secret?

Why would they do that? So that a toxic industrial waste could be passed off on the public as a nutrient with necessary health benefits, to the tune of $10 billion a year or more going in the pockets of these industries rather then they having to spend that amount to dispose of it properly as a toxic waste."
 Quoting: A Muse Me



Better stop drinking bottled 'Spring Water', because most deep well water has more naturally occurring fluoride (as 'fluorine') than the public water supplies you are complaining about...

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


What Miss shill breath fails to account for is that fluorine occurs in trace amounts, as do most all other chemicals on the first 2/3 of the periodic table, in spring water, and is not only harmless, but actually plays a positive role.

Whereas the fluoride (IDE) compounds such as sodium fluoride and their various permutations found as effluent in industrial processes have all the hideous effects on the body which have been well documented, and even been reluctantly noted by his butt-buddies at the ADA.

Of course this Shill-tard is forced by ignorance (and likely a pay check) to make the weak diversionary attempt he did.

Let us consider her weak entry into this foray, wherein she wrote:

This study was done in order to determine if Sodium Fluoride could be used as an indicator in TESTS to look for risk factors in atherosclerosis...

Conclusion

Our study demonstrates that vascular calcification and fluoride uptake are significantly correlated in the same arterial territory, although not necessarily overlapping in the same anatomic locations. An increased fluoride uptake in coronary arteries may be associated with an increased cardiovascular risk. Combined anatomic and metabolic imaging with sodium [18F]fluoride PET/CT offers a promising, noninvasive method to evaluate atherosclerosis.

[link to journals.lww.com]

This point is a red herring. This study was intended, as Shill airlines indicates to determine whether NAFL should be used in testing. Yet it is the RESULTS OF THE STUDY that inadvertently point to yet another danger of the inhalation/ingestion of NAFL. Dumb ass.

[link to www.greenmedinfo.com]

RESULTS: Fluoride uptake in vascular walls was demonstrated in 361 sites of 54 (96%) patients, whereas calcification was observed in 317 sites of 49 (88%) patients. Significant correlation between fluoride uptake and calcification was observed in most of the arterial walls, except in those of the abdominal aorta. Fluoride uptake in coronary arteries was demonstrated in 28 (46%) patients and coronary calcifications were observed in 34 (56%) patients. There was significant correlation between history of cardiovascular events and presence of fluoride uptake in coronary arteries. The coronary fluoride uptake value in patients with cardiovascular events was significantly higher than in patients without cardiovascular events.
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Nice tips on making your own!

I've bene trying to find out how much fluoride is contained in bottled water. It seems that they all have at least some in it.
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if you are worried about fluoride and not worried about the plastic that contains bottled water, you have missed some important info. AVOID BOTTLED WATER -- it is tap water, or if you are "lucky" it is stolen water from communities that receive 0 compensation. PLUS it contains many chemicals they do not have to tell you about. watch "Blue Gold" for more info.
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Hexafluorosilicic acid

Hexafluorosilicic acid is the inorganic compound with the formula H2SiF6. It is a product of the production of hydrogen fluoride and the production of phosphate fertilizers. The majority of the hexafluorosilicic acid is used for the production of aluminium metal. Hexafluorosilicic acid is also commonly used for water fluoridation.

This is some nasty stuff! Read the risks:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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"Hydrogen fluoride is a hazardous air pollutant that is a highly corrosive and systemic poison that causes severe and sometimes delayed health effects due to deep tissue penetration. Absorption of substantial amounts of hydrogen fluoride by any route may be fatal.

One of the hydraulic fracturing companies used 67 222 gallons of two products containing hydrogen fluoride in 2008 and 2009."
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hf
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Then why not just mine the flourine then? Seems kinda round about to derive it as an industrial waste from the above industries. Oh right. I forgot. We don’t mine it directly here in the States because of regulations.
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Can you show me these 'regulations'?

popcorn
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Good catch. I didn’t realize we were mining fluorspar again? Wow. I do thank you for pointing me into that direction. Do you happen to have the amendment to the Clean Air Act that changed that handy?
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Then why not just mine the flourine then? Seems kinda round about to derive it as an industrial waste from the above industries. Oh right. I forgot. We don’t mine it directly here in the States because of regulations.
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Can you show me these 'regulations'?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Good catch. I didn’t realize we were mining fluorspar again? Wow. I do thank you for pointing me into that direction. Do you happen to have the amendment to the Clean Air Act that changed that handy?
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We are well beyond teeth et al here if we are mining it again plus getting it from industrial waste. What are they going to do with the chlorine atoms from mining? The reason we stopped mining it in the first place.
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I saw one of those 'unsolved mystery' type shows on TV once, the ones with the re-enactments and all the bad acting where they actually interview the investigators and all. This particular episode was about a deranged husband that for some reason had it out for his wife.

She apparently became quite ill and with time grew increasingly sicker. She was always nauseous and was having severe pains. So she finally contacted law-enforcement or perhaps the FBI and told them about her sickness and the harsh arguments she had been having with her husband.

Long story short, they set up a sting at her house. When he came over, she went into the next room while he mixed the usual drink. The cops were in the next room with a camera. After receiving the drink she went to the restroom where she swapped glasses. The glass and drink were later tested and were found positive for arsenic/cyanide/or something along those lines (they had him on hidden camera in the kitchen)

The man was arrersted, tried, and found guilty of atttempted murder. My point is how is this any different than them poisoning our water supply a little each day. This is a crime against humanity and the number of perpetrators is outstanding. From state and local legislators to the the workers at your regional water treatment center and the actual product suppliers.

How many of your legislators do you think are licensed physicians?

How many do you suppose haven taken the time to set up laboratories in their garages in order to perform long-term field studies on the subject?

Think about it.
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Not going to read 7 pages of anti-fluoride idiocy. I read the original research paper. They were studying the effectiveness of using a fluoride tracer with a CAT scan in order to image atherosclerosis.

But whatever, some moronic website misreads a research paper, puts out a flat out incorrect headline and you morons eat it up.
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Brilliant article on fluoride:

[link to www.doesntevenmakesense.com]
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This is going to be the biggest class action lawsuit in history of Law
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Groundbreaking new research has linked sodium fluoride to cardiovascular disease, the leading cause of death worldwide. Researchers found that fluoride consumption directly stimulates the hardening of your arteries, a condition known as atherosclerosis that is highly correlated with the #1 killer.

Sodium fluoride is currently added to the water supply of many cities worldwide, despite extreme opposition from health professionals and previous studies linking it to decreased IQ and infertility.

Government Admits Dangers Yet Continues to Pump Fluoride Into Your Water Supply

Over 24 other studies have unanimously concluded that fluoride negatively impacts cognitive function. In addition to these 24 studies focusing on cognition, over 100 animal studies have linked fluoride to an increase in male infertility, diabetes, and a whole host of other health problems.

In the latest study on cognition, it was found that that 28% of the children who lived in an area where fluoride levels were low achieved the highest test scores.

Source and Full report: [link to naturalsociety.com]

Further evidence:



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So I was right all along; They really are trying to kill you.
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Congrats. OP. You got a pin!
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They say a little knowledge is dangerous...

This research DOES NOT link Floride to cardiovascular disease, it is being used to find calcium deposits in imaging. see in the original abstract the reference to PET-CT? thats Positron Emission Tomography - Computed Tomography, and the research is to use Sodium Floride to bind to the Calcium deposits, to higlight them. Think Barium meal.
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Make your own toothpaste
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Any suggestions about the water supply?
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Reverse osmosis ..filtered water do it
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natural fluoride is calcium fluoride i believe....different than man made sodium fluoride.
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1 Tbsp baking soda, 1/2 Tbsp salt, 1/2 tsp ground cloves.

Homemade toothpaste. Get to it.
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Yes, my hippy parents made homemade tooth paste same as yours, uckk! I hated it then but now its more and more appealing. I also remember my Italian grandfather picking sage leaves in his garden and using them as a kind of brush and antiseptic by rubbing the leaf on his teeth.
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Congrats. OP. You got a pin!
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