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All Eyes on Lake Vostok...To Be Breached Today!!!

 
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I hadn't heard of that Possum. Well, I'm quite sure they won't wait until February.

Maybe they are trying to time it to the CME coming in tomorrow. From the NASA site:

An earth-directed coronal mass ejection was associated with the solar flare. NASA's Space Weather Services estimates that it is traveling at over 630 miles per second and will reach Earth some time on Saturday, January 21, when strong geomagnetic storms are possible...
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Go post your bullshit somewhere else...Your posts have nothing to do with this thread.
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Wow, why such nastiness OP?
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I hadn't heard of that Possum. Well, I'm quite sure they won't wait until February.

Maybe they are trying to time it to the CME coming in tomorrow. From the NASA site:

An earth-directed coronal mass ejection was associated with the solar flare. NASA's Space Weather Services estimates that it is traveling at over 630 miles per second and will reach Earth some time on Saturday, January 21, when strong geomagnetic storms are possible...
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Go post your bullshit somewhere else...Your posts have nothing to do with this thread.
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Wow, why such nastiness OP?
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No nastiness intended, you both talking chinese new year.

What does that have to do with this thread?
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Op when am i going to see some new life? or at least some Russians swimming in untouched water?
Vide Et Fortitudine
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The CME poster was only pointing out a coincidence. Is this not a conspiracy theory site? The russians are about the breach this iced over lake and interestingly we will be bombarded with the material from the huge CME of the 19th. there could be something here. Perhaps the neutrinos that have been iced over for millions of years will mutate from the CME material that will now be able to enter the lake due to the hole the Russians have made.
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Op when am i going to see some new life? or at least some Russians swimming in untouched water?
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Well, I don't know. I'll tell ya what though, I'm gonna dream of a virgin lake infested with gorgeous woman and I don't care if they speak Russian or Portuguese.

That's my kinda lake!


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gnight!
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The CME poster was only pointing out a coincidence. Is this not a conspiracy theory site? The russians are about the breach this iced over lake and interestingly we will be bombarded with the material from the huge CME of the 19th. there could be something here. Perhaps the neutrinos that have been iced over for millions of years will mutate from the CME material that will now be able to enter the lake due to the hole the Russians have made.
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I have no words for that theory.

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microbiologists? Is like when they were excited because they found germs on Mars? Or are they looking for something bigger I wonder. And, while were at it, just as Adam was created "old" so was the earth. That is how we are the seeming discrepancy between what science says and the bible. Whatever is there is no older than man at the most. popeyawn
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There looking for the metal disc that's down there.
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Any news...????
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a little analysis on the news story

"Visit the international delegation at the station. Vostok (Antarctica)
January 18 Vostok Station in agreement with Roshydromet
“ROSHYDROMET seems to be Russia's version of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), or perhaps NOAA's National Weather Service; but ROSHYDROMET also seems to perform functions that in the U.S. would be performed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and perhaps other U.S. agencies. Their mission statement is described here, and they are described in a Russian-language Wikipedia entry.

[link to legendofpineridge.blogspot.com]
and RAE team visited
Foreign guests who flew with the French-Italian station Concordia (Dome "C")
(interesting coincidence??(cruise liner helps detour google searches???))

on an airplane Twin Otter. The group included: Frederic Paulsen (Sweden, the owner
international publishing houses Paulsen)
now is he this guy??
[link to marsgradsuk.posterous.com]
[link to www.yatedo.com]
notice the Mars Inc? anyway moving on
, Laurent Mayet (France, adviser to Mr.
Michel Rocard - a special ambassador for the polar regions of the European Department
Foreign Affairs)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to sagaxexpeditions.blogspot.com]
“April 16 – On our way back from Barneo, meeting a few friends at Longyearbyen airport, waiting for their turn to go to the North Pole (they will take the same Antonov plane we landed with): Michel Rocard, ex-Prime Minister of France and now Ambassador for the Poles (he was signatory of the Antarctic Treaty and is a key player in the protection of the Arctic), Laurent Mayet (his advisor), both invited to the North Pole by the Russians. Also got a chance to chat with Jean-Bernard Schmidt (fellow venture capitalist and adventurer - at right on photo), who could not be part of our earlier expedition but will now join Ben, our guide extraordinaire, in Barneo for his own turn at reaching the pole (with friend Patrick de Giovanni).”
Nothing much on Mayet
, Christian de Marliave (France, the editor of the French branch
publishing house Paulsen)
“Christian de Marliave
53 years old :
As a scientific coordinator and consultant for several polar missions, he has over 20 years of experience in the Arctic and the Antarctic. The knowledge and database he has acquired make him one of the prime specialists in this field. He has participated in many published works and is currently developing a series on Polar Regions. He and the program's partners are the scientific, educational and technical interface.

[link to arctic.taraexpeditions.org]


, Mike McDowell (Austria, the polar explorer, a private
entrepreneur),
We have one from Ireland
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
not much more, though
Igor Petrenko (Russia, a specialist in atmospheric physics, wintering
Concordia station),
Only find an actor. Not much help.
Scan Hudson (UK) and three Canadian pilot. Mr.
Michel Rocard, also plans to visit the Vostok station, but was forced to abandon
from the flight due…"

maybe the clue to what is going on is in who is down there

dr
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bump for new info.
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no news yet?

they gotta be moving inches per hour

dr
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more like cm/h... Either they did break through, and something's up, and not letting any info out, or there all dead. (from the radiation, new alien bacteria, or the disc took them.)
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01/23/2012 04:27 PM
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no news yet?

they gotta be moving inches per hour

dr
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Got to be getting close. The way they are doing it is good. [link to www.popsci.com]
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Tommyknocker, tommyknocker....
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more like cm/h... Either they did break through, and something's up, and not letting any info out, or there all dead. (from the radiation, new alien bacteria, or the disc took them.)
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why does the chaos from any of "the thing" movies come to mind
jeff goldbloom: "Oohh, Aahh, that's how all of this starts, but then later there's the running and screaming"

jurasic park
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a little analysis on the news story

"Visit the international delegation at the station. Vostok (Antarctica)
January 18 Vostok Station in agreement with Roshydromet
“ROSHYDROMET seems to be Russia's version of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), or perhaps NOAA's National Weather Service; but ROSHYDROMET also seems to perform functions that in the U.S. would be performed by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and perhaps other U.S. agencies. Their mission statement is described here, and they are described in a Russian-language Wikipedia entry.

[link to legendofpineridge.blogspot.com]
and RAE team visited
Foreign guests who flew with the French-Italian station Concordia (Dome "C")
(interesting coincidence??(cruise liner helps detour google searches???))

on an airplane Twin Otter. The group included: Frederic Paulsen (Sweden, the owner
international publishing houses Paulsen)
now is he this guy??
[link to marsgradsuk.posterous.com]
[link to www.yatedo.com]
notice the Mars Inc? anyway moving on
, Laurent Mayet (France, adviser to Mr.
Michel Rocard - a special ambassador for the polar regions of the European Department
Foreign Affairs)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to sagaxexpeditions.blogspot.com]
“April 16 – On our way back from Barneo, meeting a few friends at Longyearbyen airport, waiting for their turn to go to the North Pole (they will take the same Antonov plane we landed with): Michel Rocard, ex-Prime Minister of France and now Ambassador for the Poles (he was signatory of the Antarctic Treaty and is a key player in the protection of the Arctic), Laurent Mayet (his advisor), both invited to the North Pole by the Russians. Also got a chance to chat with Jean-Bernard Schmidt (fellow venture capitalist and adventurer - at right on photo), who could not be part of our earlier expedition but will now join Ben, our guide extraordinaire, in Barneo for his own turn at reaching the pole (with friend Patrick de Giovanni).”
Nothing much on Mayet
, Christian de Marliave (France, the editor of the French branch
publishing house Paulsen)
“Christian de Marliave
53 years old :
As a scientific coordinator and consultant for several polar missions, he has over 20 years of experience in the Arctic and the Antarctic. The knowledge and database he has acquired make him one of the prime specialists in this field. He has participated in many published works and is currently developing a series on Polar Regions. He and the program's partners are the scientific, educational and technical interface.

[link to arctic.taraexpeditions.org]


, Mike McDowell (Austria, the polar explorer, a private
entrepreneur),
We have one from Ireland
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
not much more, though
Igor Petrenko (Russia, a specialist in atmospheric physics, wintering
Concordia station),
Only find an actor. Not much help.
Scan Hudson (UK) and three Canadian pilot. Mr.
Michel Rocard, also plans to visit the Vostok station, but was forced to abandon
from the flight due…"

maybe the clue to what is going on is in who is down there

dr
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thanks for posting....interesting......but provokes more questions than it answers....cool2
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Thanks dr for taking the time to look into that.
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Update!

I sent an email to Professor John Priscu at the Department of Land Resources & Environmental Sciences.

He wrote one of the articles that I had read about Lake Vostok.

Here is my email with his reply:

From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:39 PM
To: Priscu, John
Subject: Lake Vostok



What a magnificent lake it is! I have had a keen interest in this lake for a long time.



I read your piece on Lake Vostok and wanted to clarify what the procedure will be once they breach Lake Vostok.



From what I read they will attempt to breach the lake this week, let it freeze, and then gather samples next year.



Is this correct?



And also, why are they waiting a year to collect ice samples. Why the wait?



How close are they, many articles , but no updates.



Your time in this subject and reply is greatly appreciated.



Regards,


XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX



His Reply:

XXXXX,



The Russian program is now making detailed measurements of the borehole and should enter the lake within the next few weeks—they are moving very cautiously, as you may expect. Their borehole measurements will tell them exactly how close to the lake they are—but based on past data, they should be around 20-30 m from the water.



You are correct, they plan to let lake water rise up the borehole and freeze in overwinter. They will then go back the following season and take cores of the lake ice that entered the borehole the previous season—they have to wait a year to allow the lake water to freeze.





John C. Priscu

Professor

Department of Land Resources & Environmental Sciences

Montana State University

Bozeman, MT 59717 U.S.A.

Website: [link to www.montana.edu]


So, with that, it's going to be a year before we know whats in there.
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The black goo from the X Files must have got them.
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The black goo from the X Files must have got them.
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hidb
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microbiologists? Is like when they were excited because they found germs on Mars? Or are they looking for something bigger I wonder. And, while were at it, just as Adam was created "old" so was the earth. That is how we are the seeming discrepancy between what science says and the bible. Whatever is there is no older than man at the most. popeyawn
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I keep reading different theories about how old the ice shelves are. From 4th century BC on up to 15 million years.

I dunno...scratching
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Interesting little article here.

[link to www.scoop.co.nz]

"The United States and the Russian Federation will send a joint team to inspect foreign stations, installations and equipment in Antarctica from January 23 to January 28, 2012. The inspection will be conducted pursuant to the Antarctic Treaty of 1959 and its Environmental Protocol. The State Department and the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs will co-lead the inspection, which is the first joint inspection conducted by either country."



I think the US wants a peek at how things may be going in Vostok. This is the first time they have done this and coupled with the fact that the Russians are going to breach the lake very soon. Not a coincidence.

I've read some very scary scenario's...if there is more pressure than they handle once they breach Vostok.
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Interesting little article here.

[link to www.scoop.co.nz]

"The United States and the Russian Federation will send a joint team to inspect foreign stations, installations and equipment in Antarctica from January 23 to January 28, 2012. The inspection will be conducted pursuant to the Antarctic Treaty of 1959 and its Environmental Protocol. The State Department and the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs will co-lead the inspection, which is the first joint inspection conducted by either country."



I think the US wants a peek at how things may be going in Vostok. This is the first time they have done this and coupled with the fact that the Russians are going to breach the lake very soon. Not a coincidence.

I've read some very scary scenario's...if there is more pressure than they handle once they breach Vostok.
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Any new news???? We are just left hanging?
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Is this not a conspiracy theory site? The russians are about the breach this iced over lake and interestingly we will be bombarded with the material from the huge CME of the 19th. there could be something here. Perhaps the neutrinos that have been iced over for millions of years will mutate from the CME material that will now be able to enter the lake due to the hole the Russians have made.
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Or perhaps, you are a barking fucking loonbat nutjob. This is a conspiracy site, but that doesn't mean that you should post every single batshit loony idea that pops into your pea sized brain. I think I lost a few brain cells reading this theory of yours.
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"they have to wait a year to let the lake water freeze in the bore hole".......what a crock of stewed bullshit!!!

that lake water should be frozen solid in 20-30 minutes
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"they have to wait a year to let the lake water freeze in the bore hole".......what a crock of stewed bullshit!!!

that lake water should be frozen solid in 20-30 minutes
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I kinda thought the same thing..

What they meant to say was.. "We will take a lot of samples & let it freeze over, go back to the lab, analyze them and then come back next year and take some more." Fix it for them.
we're here to go
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Interesting little article here. [link to www.scoop.co.nz]

"The United States and the Russian Federation will send a joint team to inspect foreign stations, installations and equipment in Antarctica from January 23 to January 28, 2012. The inspection will be conducted pursuant to the Antarctic Treaty of 1959 and its Environmental Protocol. The State Department and the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs will co-lead the inspection, which is the first joint inspection conducted by either country."
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The State Department?! That's Hillary!

LOL, now this is getting very interesting. Where Hillary goes, corruption, screwups, violations, depravity, theft, destruction and things that completely outrage all of humanity are sure to be found. Which means of course, that they've already broken through the ice, taken samples, violated everything possible to violate, insulted and ravaged some ETs, gotten into several firefights, had their asses blown away, pissed off a Galactic entourage, polluted the lake, and brought humanity to the brink of interstellar war. And now the idiot is part of a joint mission to try to smooth things over before humanity gets vaporized.

In other word, the usual.
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They are going to find evidence of many wars and natural disasters !

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