All Eyes on Lake Vostok...To Be Breached Today!!! | |
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| AlcoholicRunner I run and drink at the same time. User ID: 6956382 01/18/2012 06:18 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() This is incredible news! For 14 millian years it has been sealed under the ice. If life exists in Lake Vostok it will further the evidence that life can exist elsewhere in the cosmos, such as Jupiter's moon Europa and beyond. 14 million years my hairy arse! I can't believe no one else here challenged this assertion. The scientific consensus is the ice sheet has covered Antartica for 15 million years. That's a good question for the live chat tomorrow. Lol. Not according to this map - [link to www.ancientdestructions.com.au] |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1378340 01/18/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() This is incredible news! For 14 millian years it has been sealed under the ice. If life exists in Lake Vostok it will further the evidence that life can exist elsewhere in the cosmos, such as Jupiter's moon Europa and beyond. 14 million years my hairy arse! I can't believe no one else here challenged this assertion. I was wondering the same thing. Doesn't the Piri Reis Map show the subglacial topography of Antarctica? I'm not stating that it's been covered for 14 million years. I just quoted the article. Science has been proven wrong time and again. The Piri Reis Map is a serious challenge to the facts. How could anyone map the topography of Antarctica if it was still covered in ice? Thanks for bringing that up. |
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| Kori User ID: 3722011 01/18/2012 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story seems weird to me. I don't pretend to know anything about drilling at those depths but why does it take 24 hours to drill down just 2 meters in ice? I guess I could see if it were solid rock or something like that but ice? Heck my little ice auger can cut an 8" hole through 24 inches of ice in under a minute. Also, at those depths, why wouldn't the water pressure break the remaining ice at the bottom of the hole? Quoting: Hawgzilla Anyone know the answers to these questions? The water pressure will eventually help break the ice remaining at the bottom. In fact, the pressure being released has been discussed amongst the scientist who are working on this and other drillings happening in antarctica. They have hypthosiezed that pressure being released could throw off the balance of the ice sheet creating "unknown damage." Lake Vostok is not an isolated lake. There is a massive network of subterranean lakes including Vostok. But anyway.. at the end of Lake Vostok is what’s known as a gigantic masscon—a mass concentration of metal, very similar to the masscons they discovered on the Moon — a gigantic, circular-shaped, metallic object deep under the ice at the end of Lake Vostok. So between the "unknown damage" this could create and the masscon there has been quite a few delays in the prusuit of this objective. -- But it is our opinion that what they are doing now, right now, is rushed. The objectives a few are prusuing may have direct consequences to the many. |
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| Captain Spaulding User ID: 9093764 01/18/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow-Tang+modern earth bacteria=WTF are they thinking? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1385390 what did HP Lovecraft know? read AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS creepy as hell! Read it years ago. And the Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos, "Notebook found in a Deserted House" while I was alone in a cabin in Wisconsin. Oh man...Cool stuff. They need to leave well (no pun) enough alone. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1402694 01/18/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story seems weird to me. I don't pretend to know anything about drilling at those depths but why does it take 24 hours to drill down just 2 meters in ice? I guess I could see if it were solid rock or something like that but ice? Heck my little ice auger can cut an 8" hole through 24 inches of ice in under a minute. Quoting: Hawgzilla It is not just drilling a hole in the ice. They try to drill out ice samples in best possible condition. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1378340 01/18/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | K+ for you OP, totally intriguing. Quoting: Arnie Men shouldn't be digging so deep into the earth, look what they did in the Gulf of Mexico......there are probably some bizarre creepy demon-things living down there..... :afm: Thanks! That's what is so cool about this story. Nobody knows what the hell is really there. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1308649 01/18/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | was there a scene in the movie 2012 which someone could compare to the ice drill ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9088227 No, but there was a scene from a station somewhere where it was cold as hell. They were monitoring the buoys, I attributed it to Antarctica. Their power went out and they all died. Wasn't that Day After Tomorrow? Shit, your right. Thanks 2012 Ice Age movie, a glacier breaks off, causing rapid ice age. 30 Days of Night The Thing [link to www.youtube.com] Remake again: The Thing [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1343684 01/18/2012 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story seems weird to me. I don't pretend to know anything about drilling at those depths but why does it take 24 hours to drill down just 2 meters in ice? I guess I could see if it were solid rock or something like that but ice? Heck my little ice auger can cut an 8" hole through 24 inches of ice in under a minute. Also, at those depths, why wouldn't the water pressure break the remaining ice at the bottom of the hole? Quoting: Hawgzilla Anyone know the answers to these questions? The water pressure will eventually help break the ice remaining at the bottom. In fact, the pressure being released has been discussed amongst the scientist who are working on this and other drillings happening in antarctica. They have hypthosiezed that pressure being released could throw off the balance of the ice sheet creating "unknown damage." Lake Vostok is not an isolated lake. There is a massive network of subterranean lakes including Vostok. But anyway.. at the end of Lake Vostok is what’s known as a gigantic masscon—a mass concentration of metal, very similar to the masscons they discovered on the Moon — a gigantic, circular-shaped, metallic object deep under the ice at the end of Lake Vostok. So between the "unknown damage" this could create and the masscon there has been quite a few delays in the prusuit of this objective. -- But it is our opinion that what they are doing now, right now, is rushed. The objectives a few are prusuing may have direct consequences to the many. For those, like me, who want to know what the hell a Mascon is, see the link. Basically, its an impact crater. [link to www.universetoday.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1378340 01/18/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story seems weird to me. I don't pretend to know anything about drilling at those depths but why does it take 24 hours to drill down just 2 meters in ice? I guess I could see if it were solid rock or something like that but ice? Heck my little ice auger can cut an 8" hole through 24 inches of ice in under a minute. Quoting: Hawgzilla They are using old tech as usual. The Americans are going to be drilling into another lake in Antarctica later in the year using hot water drilling. Much more efficient. Take them a few days. I was wrong, It's the British. The British team will return to Lake Ellsworth in November 2012, and will drill down to the lake over the course of three days. Once the drill pierces the ice all the way through, "we'll get the samples back in 24 hours," Siegert said. "We'll get a pretty good understanding straight away whether there's life in the lake." [link to news.yahoo.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1378340 01/18/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story seems weird to me. I don't pretend to know anything about drilling at those depths but why does it take 24 hours to drill down just 2 meters in ice? I guess I could see if it were solid rock or something like that but ice? Heck my little ice auger can cut an 8" hole through 24 inches of ice in under a minute. Also, at those depths, why wouldn't the water pressure break the remaining ice at the bottom of the hole? Quoting: Hawgzilla Anyone know the answers to these questions? The water pressure will eventually help break the ice remaining at the bottom. In fact, the pressure being released has been discussed amongst the scientist who are working on this and other drillings happening in antarctica. They have hypthosiezed that pressure being released could throw off the balance of the ice sheet creating "unknown damage." Lake Vostok is not an isolated lake. There is a massive network of subterranean lakes including Vostok. But anyway.. at the end of Lake Vostok is what’s known as a gigantic masscon—a mass concentration of metal, very similar to the masscons they discovered on the Moon — a gigantic, circular-shaped, metallic object deep under the ice at the end of Lake Vostok. So between the "unknown damage" this could create and the masscon there has been quite a few delays in the prusuit of this objective. -- But it is our opinion that what they are doing now, right now, is rushed. The objectives a few are prusuing may have direct consequences to the many. For those, like me, who want to know what the hell a Mascon is, see the link. Basically, its an impact crater. [link to www.universetoday.com] Thanks for the link. This thing is massive in scale though...65 by 46 square miles. WTF??? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1343684 01/18/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story seems weird to me. I don't pretend to know anything about drilling at those depths but why does it take 24 hours to drill down just 2 meters in ice? I guess I could see if it were solid rock or something like that but ice? Heck my little ice auger can cut an 8" hole through 24 inches of ice in under a minute. Quoting: Hawgzilla It is not just drilling a hole in the ice. They try to drill out ice samples in best possible condition. Not to mention the enormous pressure they have to contain. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1378340 01/18/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how the massive pressure change in the lake will affect any life down there? Quoting: Borday There is a lot of talk about what will happen to pressurization down there once they breach. Stupid Russians doing it the old tech way may have more than they can deal with if something goes wrong. The British on the other hand using newer tech(hot water drilling)say the hole drilled by them will freeze over in a short period of time, thus sealing it up quickly. Forgot to add..The Russian hole will be permanent or until they choose to seal it. Apparently they like their hole readily available. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1343684 01/18/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1308649 Go and find the original "THING", with James Arness, it is veryy appropriate to what is going on down there. It was also a movie that I will never forget, because as a very young child, it scared the living shit out of me. I will never, forget the hand, the severed hand.... |
| Fire & Ice User ID: 1343684 01/18/2012 06:50 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story seems weird to me. I don't pretend to know anything about drilling at those depths but why does it take 24 hours to drill down just 2 meters in ice? I guess I could see if it were solid rock or something like that but ice? Heck my little ice auger can cut an 8" hole through 24 inches of ice in under a minute. Also, at those depths, why wouldn't the water pressure break the remaining ice at the bottom of the hole? Quoting: Hawgzilla Anyone know the answers to these questions? The water pressure will eventually help break the ice remaining at the bottom. In fact, the pressure being released has been discussed amongst the scientist who are working on this and other drillings happening in antarctica. They have hypthosiezed that pressure being released could throw off the balance of the ice sheet creating "unknown damage." Lake Vostok is not an isolated lake. There is a massive network of subterranean lakes including Vostok. But anyway.. at the end of Lake Vostok is what’s known as a gigantic masscon—a mass concentration of metal, very similar to the masscons they discovered on the Moon — a gigantic, circular-shaped, metallic object deep under the ice at the end of Lake Vostok. So between the "unknown damage" this could create and the masscon there has been quite a few delays in the prusuit of this objective. -- But it is our opinion that what they are doing now, right now, is rushed. The objectives a few are prusuing may have direct consequences to the many. For those, like me, who want to know what the hell a Mascon is, see the link. Basically, its an impact crater. [link to www.universetoday.com] Thanks for the link. This thing is massive in scale though...65 by 46 square miles. WTF??? You're welcome. Great thread BTW, I even dusted off my AV for this one... The only constant is change The winds of anger, blows out the candle of intelligence "Slowly, like moisture entering the dying tree trunk, slowly filling and rotting it, so did the world and inertia creep into Siddhartha's soul; it slowly filled his soul, made it heavy, made it tired, sent it to sleep" "One must find the source within one's own Self, one must possess it" Siddhartha |