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Lake Vostok and Rainbow City are in the same location!!!!!

 
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heres the thread with the on line interview

Thread: Antarctica and its Volcanism and Vostok (Page 4)

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great thread OP.

what day were they expected to drill through?
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The 18th ish. Maybe the Russians miscalculated how much further they had to go and don't want to admit defeat. It is just so odd that no word has come yet on what they are doing.
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No the drilling has stopped because they are unsure the results of their drilling. They dont have a clue as to how large this circuit of rivers is nor do they know what 5 million years of isolated pressure build up will cause once broken through.

There are too many variables.. Curitousity killed the cat.
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I don't know if this as been posted.


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I don't know if this as been posted.


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Thanks for the link. I just finished watching it and enjoyed the progress the various scientists had made up to that time (five years ago?). I was disappointed no mention was made of the magnetic anomaly or the huge air bubbles found in some areas of the ice. Maybe these features weren't well known at the time this BBC documentary was produced.
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Thanks for the link. I just finished watching it and enjoyed the progress the various scientists had made up to that time (five years ago?). I was disappointed no mention was made of the magnetic anomaly or the huge air bubbles found in some areas of the ice. Maybe these features weren't well known at the time this BBC documentary was produced.
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I haven't watched the whole thing yet. I think I will be watching with my morning coffee. Like you said maybe the air bubbles are a new find.
Glad you enjoyed it.
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Thread: South Pole Insanity..video...what is this? (Page 2)

just for interest because its in the same area...please watch all the vid before slamming it...i found it curious.
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Thread: South Pole Insanity..video...what is this? (Page 2)

just for interest because its in the same area...please watch all the vid before slamming it...i found it curious.
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Thank you - that is most interesting! Several videos are posted on the thread; I thought the best one was the first embedded by the OP (can start viewing around 2:30 min.). It was taken from webcam shots at a south polar station on January 17 2012, exactly the time frame we are discussing.

It looks like a high tech amphibious ship/plane to me. How can anyone explain the clear dome on top of this object?
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I don't know much about the magnetosphere. We are told it protects us from the damaging rays of the sun. Do we really know if this is true?

The geomagnetic south pole is believed to be involved in the propagation of these magnetic lines. Vostok area is the location of the geomagnetic south pole. A massive magnetic anomaly is known to exist under the Antarctic ice in the warm waters of Lake Vostok.

Here's some wild speculation. I wonder if this metal mass is actually technology from an ancient time and is generating the matrix that imprisons our DNA (i.e. magnetosphere equals matrix).

Perhaps TPTB (descendents of the ancient priests/scientists/rulers) were aware that their technology would expire soon.

With the drilling project, they somehow re-powered the technology and the Google doodle let insiders know the energy field (giant snowflake) was intact.

Of course that doesn't explain why they've not released news (even fake news) about the ice breach that was imminent on January 18.

There was also that strange object found floating on an iceberg near the south pole last year - another message?
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?? You got a link for that??
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Regarding Hollow earth theory.I would like to bring up a nuclear test conducted over the north pole, only two years later, the radioactive isotopes to this specific explosion was identified at the south pole, but nowhere in between...
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again....Link?
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Thread: South Pole Insanity..video...what is this? (Page 2)

just for interest because its in the same area...please watch all the vid before slamming it...i found it curious.
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Thank you - that is most interesting! Several videos are posted on the thread; I thought the best one was the first embedded by the OP (can start viewing around 2:30 min.). It was taken from webcam shots at a south polar station on January 17 2012, exactly the time frame we are discussing.

It looks like a high tech amphibious ship/plane to me. How can anyone explain the clear dome on top of this object?
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your welcome, and yes the same questions are nagging at me..even tho its 10sec"steps"it morphs way to quick to be an iceberg turning whilst floating/moving, the dome is another oddity...as well as another poster mentioned the fact it does not appear to be touching the ice in the last few "steps" and casts a shadow too.I agree the orignal vid posted is best to watch.
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From the photo on Wikipedia, the drilling rigs are just a stone's throw from the Vostok station facilities. Approximately 25 personnel are on site during the short summer.

If an accident has happened, the station may be gone. I really hope not.
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I'm still thinking the research station is likely gone. They can't hide it for long because 25 families will be asking about their loved ones.

Timeline:

Jan. 18 2012 - news of immanent drill through the last 20 meters of ice into Lake Vostok waters

Jan. 20 2012 - massive, freak electrical storm in Perth, Australia (closest populated area to this part of Antarctica), with thousands of dead fish showing up in the river shortly after

Jan. 21 2012 - announcement that a joint team (U.S. and Russian) is being sent to inspect foreign stations, installations and equipment in Antarctica from January 23 to January 28, 2012 [link to www.scoop.co.nz]

Combine with knowledge that the geomagnetic south pole is near Vostok station. The geomagnetic south pole is involved in the creation of earth's magnetosphere. A unknown, massive magnetic object is submerged under the ice in Lake Vostok.
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Just to make it clear the magnetic object or massacon is simply a theory developed to understand the magnetic anonmaly they have found while looking at antartica from space and measurements from sattelites.

They have also compared antarctica to a few of the spots on the moon where satellites have been thrown off orbit as they pass over these spots. They are not sure what they heck is going on. Thats why news is not really coming from the site. THey don't know what to do because this is much more than drilling to collect water. That is simply the cover up. There so much more to this.
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Are you sure it's a theory? I read somewhere that they determined the massacon was a round-shaped object (from the radar and imaging).

Can you share a little more on "there so much more to this"; many of us are super curious! What do you think is happening or has happened at the drilling site?
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O yes I am sure, there has never been a massacon found or uncovered before, the term was introduced probably around 2008, and they havent broken through the ice and confirmed it being there. So, the theory is that there may be one, but it isnt fact.

What is fact is that there has been discovered "blood falls." Blood falls has a mighty amount of iron in it giving it its' red color. Iron of course is magnetic, what may be there instead of a solid metalic object that some consider an UFO, is a bed or sheet of land that is highly infused with iron. This of course better aligns with the facts that we do have.

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I don't know much about the magnetosphere. We are told it protects us from the damaging rays of the sun. Do we really know if this is true?

The geomagnetic south pole is believed to be involved in the propagation of these magnetic lines. Vostok area is the location of the geomagnetic south pole. A massive magnetic anomaly is known to exist under the Antarctic ice in the warm waters of Lake Vostok.

Here's some wild speculation. I wonder if this metal mass is actually technology from an ancient time and is generating the matrix that imprisons our DNA (i.e. magnetosphere equals matrix).

Perhaps TPTB (descendents of the ancient priests/scientists/rulers) were aware that their technology would expire soon.

With the drilling project, they somehow re-powered the technology and the Google doodle let insiders know the energy field (giant snowflake) was intact.

Of course that doesn't explain why they've not released news (even fake news) about the ice breach that was imminent on January 18.

There was also that strange object found floating on an iceberg near the south pole last year - another message?
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?? You got a link for that??
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Yes, here is the link [link to blogs.abc.net.au] I see the story was published Jan. 24, 2011, so if they found it a few days prior .... would make it almost exactly a year from this year's anticipated breach at Vostok.

Various internet photo "experts" at the time thought it might be metal, not wood. Again, seems like it could be a message for those "in the know".
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I don't know much about the magnetosphere. We are told it protects us from the damaging rays of the sun. Do we really know if this is true?

The geomagnetic south pole is believed to be involved in the propagation of these magnetic lines. Vostok area is the location of the geomagnetic south pole. A massive magnetic anomaly is known to exist under the Antarctic ice in the warm waters of Lake Vostok.

Here's some wild speculation. I wonder if this metal mass is actually technology from an ancient time and is generating the matrix that imprisons our DNA (i.e. magnetosphere equals matrix).

Perhaps TPTB (descendents of the ancient priests/scientists/rulers) were aware that their technology would expire soon.

With the drilling project, they somehow re-powered the technology and the Google doodle let insiders know the energy field (giant snowflake) was intact.

Of course that doesn't explain why they've not released news (even fake news) about the ice breach that was imminent on January 18.

There was also that strange object found floating on an iceberg near the south pole last year - another message?
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?? You got a link for that??
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Yes, here is the link [link to blogs.abc.net.au] I see the story was published Jan. 24, 2011, so if they found it a few days prior .... would make it almost exactly a year from this year's anticipated breach at Vostok.

Various internet photo "experts" at the time thought it might be metal, not wood. Again, seems like it could be a message for those "in the know".
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"webpage cannot be found.."
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Let's try that again: [link to blogs.abc.net.au] A chip off the old block

There is also this link: [link to spiced_chai_latte.com] mysterious block of wood discovered on iceberg at magnetic south pole
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I don't know why my links are getting scrambled or changed to something else. Here is that second news link again:
[link to spiced_chai_latte.com] Mysterious Block of Wood Discovered on Iceberg at Magnetic South Pole
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I give up - you'll have do a search on the wording to read about the story.
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Let's try that again: [link to blogs.abc.net.au] A chip off the old block

This one works, interesting..........

There is also this link: [link to spiced_chai_latte.com] mysterious block of wood discovered on iceberg at magnetic south pole This one doesnt...
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but all good, im sure people can find the material themselves....i think alot is going on here...great thread, lets see where this rabbit hole takes us....

Also, the 'bleeding' ice is interesting, WTF

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[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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could anyone figure out when this article was posted??
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could anyone figure out when this article was posted??
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today
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I don't know much about the magnetosphere. We are told it protects us from the damaging rays of the sun. Do we really know if this is true?

The geomagnetic south pole is believed to be involved in the propagation of these magnetic lines. Vostok area is the location of the geomagnetic south pole. A massive magnetic anomaly is known to exist under the Antarctic ice in the warm waters of Lake Vostok.

Here's some wild speculation. I wonder if this metal mass is actually technology from an ancient time and is generating the matrix that imprisons our DNA (i.e. magnetosphere equals matrix).

Perhaps TPTB (descendents of the ancient priests/scientists/rulers) were aware that their technology would expire soon.

With the drilling project, they somehow re-powered the technology and the Google doodle let insiders know the energy field (giant snowflake) was intact.

Of course that doesn't explain why they've not released news (even fake news) about the ice breach that was imminent on January 18.

There was also that strange object found floating on an iceberg near the south pole last year - another message?
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What was this object any ideas?
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snip

Of course that doesn't explain why they've not released news (even fake news) about the ice breach that was imminent on January 18.

There was also that strange object found floating on an iceberg near the south pole last year - another message?
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What was this object any ideas?
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At the time, the photo generated much discussion on conspiracy forums. GLP had several threads - this is one: Thread: Mysterious Block of Wood Discovered on Iceberg at Magnetic South Pole
I haven't had time to re-read any of it but I think the story may be relevant because it took place almost exactly one year ago and the location was the magnetic south pole. The iceberg was a triangle, the object a rectangle - too perfect a picture to be accidental. I don't know if anyone suggested it could be a powerful magnet but that's what comes to my mind now.
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could anyone figure out when this article was posted??
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today
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Well, well... seems they are starting to put together a cover story for the masses.

"Priscu said Russian scientists on the scene e-mailed him last week to say they had stopped drilling about 40 feet from the expected waterline to measure the pressure levels.."

"If the Russians break through as planned within the next week..."

"He said the doomsday scenario for the Russian breakthrough would be if the suddenly released water pushed its way past machinery to block it and shot up the borehole, which is six to eight inches in diameter at the top. The result, he said, could be an enormous geyser that could empty a quarter of the lake. Priscu said he didn’t expect that to happen, but if it did, the sudden addition of substantial water vapor to the antarctic atmosphere could change the continent’s weather in unpredictable ways."


Funny they seem to have plenty of time this year, whereas last year, they were flown out on February 6, the last flight before the Antarctic winter set in.

My guess is they drilled through on January 19/20 and the process accidentally (or perhaps deliberately) created an explosion.
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More thoughts on this article published Jan. 31, 2012. They seem to be setting up the Russians with numerous references to their old equipment and questionable drilling techniques:

"The Russian team also ran into delays caused by financial strains and by efforts to address international worries about their drilling operation"

"the Russian effort has drawn criticism for its extensive use of kerosene, Freon and other chemicals"

"Organizations ... have spoken against the drilling methods used by the Russians."

"director of the coalition’s secretariat.... said, “They have responded to some concerns but are not drilling to the highest standards available.”

"Researchers such as Robin Bell.....She, too, has concerns about contamination and equipment failures but said the Russians see their Vostok work as a high-profile symbol"

"American researchers ... and the British will drill into the much deeper Lake Ellsworth... Both are using techniques more consistent with best drilling practices than the Russians are doing at Vostok"

"[researcher, Priscu] “I could imagine an international team going back to Vostok and starting a project to drill much further into the lake with a higher level of technology and innovation.""
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More thoughts on this article published Jan. 31, 2012. They seem to be setting up the Russians with numerous references to their old equipment and questionable drilling techniques:

"The Russian team also ran into delays caused by financial strains and by efforts to address international worries about their drilling operation"

"the Russian effort has drawn criticism for its extensive use of kerosene, Freon and other chemicals"

"Organizations ... have spoken against the drilling methods used by the Russians."

"director of the coalition’s secretariat.... said, “They have responded to some concerns but are not drilling to the highest standards available.”

"Researchers such as Robin Bell.....She, too, has concerns about contamination and equipment failures but said the Russians see their Vostok work as a high-profile symbol"

"American researchers ... and the British will drill into the much deeper Lake Ellsworth... Both are using techniques more consistent with best drilling practices than the Russians are doing at Vostok"

"[researcher, Priscu] “I could imagine an international team going back to Vostok and starting a project to drill much further into the lake with a higher level of technology and innovation.""

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yeah, noticed that....i have been watching for EQ's in the area over the past few days...nothing new yet, but i have a bad feeling about when they tap through....

we'll see (or not)
Peace
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latest news items [link to news.sky.com] Vostok: Time Running Out To Reach Hidden Lake
1:14am UK, Thursday February 02, 2012

Nothing new but they admit the team has to leave very soon.
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Another news item: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Frozen in time: Russian scientists on verge of drilling into Antarctic lake hidden under ice for 20MILLION years

Last updated at 12:16 AM on 2nd February 2012

After hearing nothing for almost two weeks, suddenly the stories are appearing. They say the breach is imminent AGAIN.
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latest news items [link to news.sky.com] Vostok: Time Running Out To Reach Hidden Lake
1:14am UK, Thursday February 02, 2012

Nothing new but they admit the team has to leave very soon.
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"Glaciologists believe the ice cap insulates the lake, allowing the water to stay warm enough to remain unfrozen"

Hmmmm?
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Another news item: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Frozen in time: Russian scientists on verge of drilling into Antarctic lake hidden under ice for 20MILLION years

Last updated at 12:16 AM on 2nd February 2012

After hearing nothing for almost two weeks, suddenly the stories are appearing. They say the breach is imminent AGAIN.
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"The team also face the risk of an explosion with oxygen and nitrogen trapped below. They are trying to make sure only a small amount of air can escape to avert the risk"

"The worst possible scenario could be the water suddenly shooting up through the hole when the breakthrough is made.
Up to a quarter of the lake's water could shoot out of the hole, John Priscu said, if the worst fears are realised"

Will they push harder to complete the job before others, and risk the contamination? good chance....

Peace
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Another news item: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
Frozen in time: Russian scientists on verge of drilling into Antarctic lake hidden under ice for 20MILLION years

Last updated at 12:16 AM on 2nd February 2012

After hearing nothing for almost two weeks, suddenly the stories are appearing. They say the breach is imminent AGAIN.
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"The team also face the risk of an explosion with oxygen and nitrogen trapped below. They are trying to make sure only a small amount of air can escape to avert the risk"

"The worst possible scenario could be the water suddenly shooting up through the hole when the breakthrough is made.
Up to a quarter of the lake's water could shoot out of the hole, John Priscu said, if the worst fears are realised"

Will they push harder to complete the job before others, and risk the contamination? good chance....

Peace
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Or could this mean something else?

When they announce the "unfortunate Vostok accident" in the next few days, all the excuses will be in place: shoddy equipment, unsound drilling methods, and carelessness in a rush to win the race. Those darn Russians.

I really, really hope I'm wrong. I guess we'll see within the week; the temperatures are dropping daily.





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