Lake Vostok and Rainbow City are in the same location!!!!!

I'm not sure I believe that.

Branson and a few others headed there...
interesting fact...
follow Branson's blog... [link to www.virgin.com]

Peace

Or maybe the americans don't want the russians to find out whats in that lake first. All these stories making the russians look bad and highliting the risks might be just to apply pressure on the russians to stop for the year. Maybe the americans have a plan to go in there and finish the job once the ruskies pull out for the season.
Remember they did just bring a complete drilling operation down there and left it stashed in containers for a project next year......who knows.

There are several more news stories out today but just regurgitating what's been said.

As for the Branson/Gore trip, I think, since they left from Argentina, they are touring the coast of the west side of Antarctic. The Vostok station is located far inland, at an extremely high altitude, in east Antartica. It is supposed to be the coldest spot in the world. You never know, though, if we are getting the truth. I've been wondering about the photos of the Russian station. Are they up-to-date or were they shot in the 60's or 70's, or at another location altogether, perhaps in Siberia?

Regarding the other comment about the Americans persuading the Russians to abandon the effort this year so they can secretly reach the waters first - that's plausible.

With a number of mysterious deaths/disappearances at Antarctic research stations over the years, we know something is not right..

They work together, Americans and Russians, at the station so one beating the other is not the case.

Its the variables you mentioned before. They simply can't do enough math to understand the consequences of this event.

Eventually though they will drill and then come out with new discoveries that will distract.

Numbers aren't making sense. From the news item above:

"The scientists have been drilling 24-hours a day in three shifts as they race to break through before winter descends.

John Priscu, a Montana State University researcher, told the Washington Post the Russian scientists told him [last day or two?] they were just 40ft from where the waterline is thought to lie."

Then there is this original news story from January 18 2012:
[link to news.sciencemag.org]

"After drilling 3720 meters last February [2011], time ran out for the team and the project was stymied just 29.5 meters from its destination as winter set in."

"As of 13 January [2012], they had reached a depth of 3737.5 meters, about 15 meters away from liquid water. With three teams drilling around the clock and making progress at an average of 2 meters per day"


Remember three teams around the clock. An ice fisherman on another thread commented this "drilling 2 meters a day" was ludicrous.

I forgot to add 40 feet = 12 meters.

In two weeks (since Jan. 13), they've only drilled down 3 meters (15 down to 12).

LOL...good observations mate, i thought it BS that it hasnt been breached already...it doesnt take Bruce Willis to drill 40 feet in 2 months ffs.

waiting for answers
Peace

yeah, i think Jason Mraz is on it too....
But there is a canadian couple that are camping on the ice for a few days i think...wonder if we can get them to take a gander...? (jokes)



Last Edited by nerdrage88sasr on 02/02/2012 07:18 PM

Where did you hear that the Americans are working with the Russians at the lake Vostock base???
Link?


Methane hydrates could also be a problem.....remember BP's gulf fiasco?

do I note an air of freindly competition between the yanks, the limey's and the russkies?

"Anywho, it’s always good to see our science in the news! A friend noted that it makes it seem like the be-all-end-all (end-all-be-all? who knows.) of Antarctic exploration. Well with three massive collaborations all trying to drill a subglacial lake (the three being WISSARD at Whillans, the Russians at Vostok, and the UK at Ellsworth), it kinda is. Not to pat ourselves on the back, but to me at least, it has a bit of “space race” feel to it.

And a side note: I don’t agree with the characterization of Vostok as the “crown jewel” of Antarctic science. Where’s the Whillans love, guys??"
[link to scrippsonice.wordpress.com]

Where did you hear that the Americans are working with the Russians at the lake Vostock base???
Link?


Methane hydrates could also be a problem.....remember BP's gulf fiasco?


Imagine the amount of Methane Hydrates compressed and formed beneath the ice cap down there....must be HUGE amounts.

i read somewhere that the pressure under that ice is equivelent to 13 atmospheres? thats massive, playing around with this amount of pressure, as well as the energy trapped under the ice in the form of methane....recipe for DOOM!

im hoping nothing goes wrong, and we can get some interesting insight into what, if any, lifeforms may have survived down there for a million years or so.

Peace

Last Edited by nerdrage88sasr on 02/02/2012 08:45 PM

[link to www.foxnews.com]

another thread- Thread: contact lost with Antarctic lake Vostok Ice drilling team

[link to www.theage.com.au]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to www.usnews.com]

Last Edited by nerdrage88sasr on 02/04/2012 03:28 AM

There are those humans who understand all to well what lies under the ice down there. It was not time to find out and apparently the Russians could not take a hint.

"Please sir can we have some more?"

Are you one of those humans? if so, please let us in on this info, would truly appreciate it.
Peace

2800 yr old bacteria, different lake...

[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

that was only under 19m? of ice...imagine how old the bacteria could be under 2 miles?

Peace

[link to news.google.com]

[link to ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com]

Last Edited by nerdrage88sasr on 02/05/2012 01:12 AM

I liked reading that old news article from 2003. Almost the same words are being used in the news stories of today and obfuscation specialist, John Priscu, was spouting off back then, too. I had to chuckle when I heard a few days ago, Priscu claimed they (U.S. researchers) hadn't heard from the Russian team and were getting worried, then had to backtrack and rephrase the next day. I guess TPTB still don't know what story to float.

yep, interesting aint it...we lost contact...erm derp, i mean i never said that...erm..which way did he go george, which way did he go...?

still no believable info yet...starting to think that a team will be left behind to guard/watch/continue work when others leave as a cover story...damn i wish i could get the use of a satellite and check out the site myself....

It sounds like they can't drill in the extreme cold, so staying for that purpose is out. It will soon (day or two) be too cold for a transport to land so they can't keep fudging about the state of the operation and the personnel involved.

I still think an incident happened weeks ago and the station no longer has personnel to pick up by plane. Nothing I've heard has changed my mind so far.

I just can't figure out the role of the billionaires on the boat further west in Antarctica. I think their last day is today (Sunday). "Credible witnesses" comes to mind. Are they going to see something and tell the world? They'll be believed because they are rich and well-known. We'll find out soon enough, I guess.

yep, interesting aint it...we lost contact...erm derp, i mean i never said that...erm..which way did he go george, which way did he go...?

still no believable info yet...starting to think that a team will be left behind to guard/watch/continue work when others leave as a cover story...damn i wish i could get the use of a satellite and check out the site myself....


It sounds like they can't drill in the extreme cold, so staying for that purpose is out. It will soon (day or two) be too cold for a transport to land so they can't keep fudging about the state of the operation and the personnel involved.

I still think an incident happened weeks ago and the station no longer has personnel to pick up by plane. Nothing I've heard has changed my mind so far.

I just can't figure out the role of the billionaires on the boat further west in Antarctica. I think their last day is today (Sunday). "Credible witnesses" comes to mind. Are they going to see something and tell the world? They'll be believed because they are rich and well-known. We'll find out soon enough, I guess.


Well they have a nice selection of witnesses, even Jason Mraz is there....im thinking that there has been no explosion or obviously disasterous event...otherwise these 'witnesses' would have seen some sign of the results...i.e. plume of water gushing into the sky, smoking heap..something...

im thinking that they have found something...the scariest result for me would be the release of ancient bacteria..then these witnesses get it...would be a good selection of people to spread this bacteria due to the amount of contact they will have with people on their return....maybe something with a few week incubation period?

^^that would be my worst fear...
all we can do is to keep watching.
Peace

I just read an infosheet on the Deepflight Challenger submersible that was posted on today's Steve Fossett thread. The machine looks awfully similar to the one in the video: [link to deepflight.com]

Wikipedia says the submersible's inaugural dive was delayed from mid 2011 to early 2012.

February 6 is the day. It is early morning at Halley on the Weddell Sea (general location of boys in the boat) and late morning at Vostok station. Gore's group is leaving today. One report stated February 6 is also the last day for the Russian crew to leave.

When I was viewing the Antarctic time zone map ( [link to www.worldtimezone.com] I noticed how close the USA McMurdo station is to Vostok. McMurdo is the Antarctic station closest to Christchurch, NZ. On another thread, a poster left a link that indicated all flights within Antarctica used the McMurdo base. If a transport goes to Vostok today, it will leave and return to the American base.

With this in mind, I think it would be difficult for countries to keep secrets from each other. Hopefully, accurate news will be revealed soon.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Same "no news" news story from Feb. 6, but does anyone have ideas on the last photo in the article. It shows a supply plane delivering food and equipment to Vostok station in 1967. The underside of the plane is prominent in the photo and it is painted with a huge, red pentagram. Anybody know what airline that might be? I checked Aeroflot and it doesn't use that symbol. The old photo seems out of place in the story.

Here you go

[link to www.airliners.net]

[link to www.airliners.net]

Thank you! It seems to be the plane, though they don't show an angle that shows the star. I thought it might mean something, but I guess not.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]