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I want OFF this planet!

 
AttackOfTheKreel

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Yes they will i hope you like satanism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9191485


Satanism?

I am not a satanist. You are not a satanist.

Why are you so afraid of a very small percentage of the human population?

Much more, why so afraid of people who believe differently--you do not think they are human? Are you somehow better than them?

Is that why you are running away from them? Because you're better?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


We are not running away - it's just that our time here is over. While we are here we will do what we can, I promise - but once we are free we really want to go home and be with our real families...is that too much to ask?

And no, we are not any better than humans - we are just different.
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


Right, you're from somewhere else that;s better and waiting on those people to come help you and take you home.

But you don't claim to be better than humans, just different. Yet, as a human you can't help the planet, and neither can we--our only hope is from your people, from another planet.

Okay.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I was saying us on this planet won't be able to do much - there's powers in numbers and freedom, and there is a whole host of my kind coming this way to help.

Analogy: Think of it as prisoners helping prisoners at a POW camp - it's only moderately effective ...but when the army rolls up from the outside, freeing the prisoners AND bringing supplies, so much more good can be achieved!
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Yes they will i hope you like satanism
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9191485


Satanism?

I am not a satanist. You are not a satanist.

Why are you so afraid of a very small percentage of the human population?

Much more, why so afraid of people who believe differently--you do not think they are human? Are you somehow better than them?

Is that why you are running away from them? Because you're better?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I Definately dont mean for this to come off wrong but do you get this mad when people die? Sweetheart human beings live everyday and do nothing to better the planet or community or even think twice about it. There soul moves on to where they are meant to be. THIS IS EXACTLY what i am talking about right now. Souls move on, we are meant to. Now i dont know if ill be taking my body with me..but if so, who cares..its just flesh and blood. My soul is what counts ..i count it, god counts it. I am a energy source..we all are. Our bodies are shells and nothing more. they give way eventually. You seem very attached to the physical.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


Why do you think I am mad?

If only you knew how calmly I type this.

I am simply direct.

Are you mad?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Not in the least and as a matter of fact i admire your passion. Its a beautiful thing to have. Hold on to that.
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I never said you shouldn't stay until the end to help others, I said Idon'tfeelhome. You arevery right about the physical aspect andI like what ou said about the soul, but this planet is becoming more and more unhabitable.
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You said you want off.

Isn't that staying until the end?

If humans lived harmoniously and in balance with nature, you wouldn't wish to run away then.

If it was nice and lovely you'd be just fine.

But since it isn't you wish for an alien savior to come rescue you and whisk you away to a better place.

You do not think it possible to correct the mistakes of humanity, and yet you are human.

What's worse, you would infect others with this same cowardice.

Waiting for your savior.

Waiting..

Waiting..

Dying..

Running..
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Satanism?

I am not a satanist. You are not a satanist.

Why are you so afraid of a very small percentage of the human population?

Much more, why so afraid of people who believe differently--you do not think they are human? Are you somehow better than them?

Is that why you are running away from them? Because you're better?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I Definately dont mean for this to come off wrong but do you get this mad when people die? Sweetheart human beings live everyday and do nothing to better the planet or community or even think twice about it. There soul moves on to where they are meant to be. THIS IS EXACTLY what i am talking about right now. Souls move on, we are meant to. Now i dont know if ill be taking my body with me..but if so, who cares..its just flesh and blood. My soul is what counts ..i count it, god counts it. I am a energy source..we all are. Our bodies are shells and nothing more. they give way eventually. You seem very attached to the physical.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


Why do you think I am mad?

If only you knew how calmly I type this.

I am simply direct.

Are you mad?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Not in the least and as a matter of fact i admire your passion. Its a beautiful thing to have. Hold on to that.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


I am not attached to the physical, I am attached to the moment.

People who attach to the physical are afraid of it. They run away.
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I Definately dont mean for this to come off wrong but do you get this mad when people die? Sweetheart human beings live everyday and do nothing to better the planet or community or even think twice about it. There soul moves on to where they are meant to be. THIS IS EXACTLY what i am talking about right now. Souls move on, we are meant to. Now i dont know if ill be taking my body with me..but if so, who cares..its just flesh and blood. My soul is what counts ..i count it, god counts it. I am a energy source..we all are. Our bodies are shells and nothing more. they give way eventually. You seem very attached to the physical.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


Why do you think I am mad?

If only you knew how calmly I type this.

I am simply direct.

Are you mad?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Not in the least and as a matter of fact i admire your passion. Its a beautiful thing to have. Hold on to that.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


I am not attached to the physical, I am attached to the moment.

People who attach to the physical are afraid of it. They run away.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You say people who are attached to the physical are afraid of it and run from it. Well in this instance id have to say i believe you are attached to it afraid to lose it and refuse to move on from it. There is more to being and more to living then this little earth. You win some you lose some. But if you dont move forward you will gain nothing.
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...If humans lived harmoniously and in balance with nature, you wouldn't wish to run away then.

If it was nice and lovely you'd be just fine.

But since it isn't you wish for an alien savior to come rescue you and whisk you away to a better place....
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Even if it was nice and lovely, we would still want to leave simply because this is not out home. We've been here a very long time, reincarnation after reincarnation, doing all we can to help make it better here - now that our time has come, we simply want to be reunited with our loved ones...we haven't seen them in centuries...is that really so hard to ask? We promise that your planet will be restored to perfection - if you want, I will even see to it that you help oversee the process.

It may even be that our families are coming along too, meaning we don't have to leave and therefore can help your planet all the more. I for one wish to see the waves crash upon the shores of my home planet in this lifetime...but if my family arrives with the rest I may stay and help the restoration.

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It's not cowardice - it's simply homesickness. With homesickness comes apathy for the current environment...I'm not criticizing you, I'm just asking you to understand...
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


Homesickness?

This is your home, you were born here. This planet and this sun have sustained you.

The blood of our ancestors is here.

Our children are here.

Your sense of hopelessness is selfish.

And cowardly.

Sorry.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Your ancestors, perhaps...abduct Not ours. I understand where you are coming from, but this world is not worth it, trust me - there are better places in this universe than Earth.
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


So you don't have any dead grandparents or great-grandparents or great-great grandparents?

Something tells me you are either full of shit or delusional--a result of cowardice.

You can keep your "grass is greener" syndrome.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


I side with this...it sucks, but it's our home for the moment. When we die, we will hopefully move on to better.

Earth is beautiful, it would be paradise if there wasn't evil...
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
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Why do you think I am mad?

If only you knew how calmly I type this.

I am simply direct.

Are you mad?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Not in the least and as a matter of fact i admire your passion. Its a beautiful thing to have. Hold on to that.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


I am not attached to the physical, I am attached to the moment.

People who attach to the physical are afraid of it. They run away.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You say people who are attached to the physical are afraid of it and run from it. Well in this instance id have to say i believe you are attached to it afraid to lose it and refuse to move on from it. There is more to being and more to living then this little earth. You win some you lose some. But if you dont move forward you will gain nothing.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


You speak of moving forward yet you confess that you must wait in order to do so.

I think it is possible to change humanity without waiting.

I am not afraid to die on this planet, like some people are. I will gladly go the way of my ancestors, but I want something better for our children. If I have to die here in order to strive to that end, then so be it.

Whyever would I wait when I have this life and its time, and I am already dying each moment of it? Our children will outlive us and inherit what we leave behind, just as we inherited from generations past.

No, I am not the one who is afraid. I neither wait nor run.

You would do both.
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


Kreel, remind yourself of who you are and what you stand for and represent. Shield yourself.
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...If humans lived harmoniously and in balance with nature, you wouldn't wish to run away then.

If it was nice and lovely you'd be just fine.

But since it isn't you wish for an alien savior to come rescue you and whisk you away to a better place....
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Even if it was nice and lovely, we would still want to leave simply because this is not out home. We've been here a very long time, reincarnation after reincarnation, doing all we can to help make it better here - now that our time has come, we simply want to be reunited with our loved ones...we haven't seen them in centuries...is that really so hard to ask? We promise that your planet will be restored to perfection - if you want, I will even see to it that you help oversee the process.

It may even be that our families are coming along too, meaning we don't have to leave and therefore can help your planet all the more. I for one wish to see the waves crash upon the shores of my home planet in this lifetime...but if my family arrives with the rest I may stay and help the restoration.
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


Let me get this straight. you've been here for reincarnation after reincarnation helping us?

Take a look around you, while you prepare all these carnations later to run away.

How have you helped us?

You do think you are better, but you do not admit it because you are also human.

Yet you think we are incapable and must wait on an alien savior--your fantastic people--to come save us all.

But you have been here for reincarnations, helping us along.

Do you not see the senselessness in this?
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


Kreel, remind yourself of who you are and what you stand for and represent. Shield yourself.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


Nicely said Phoenixfire.
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
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Well, I am no coward, believe me - I died defending freedom on the shores of Normandy in one of my earlier incarnations. flag waver

I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
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Not in the least and as a matter of fact i admire your passion. Its a beautiful thing to have. Hold on to that.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


I am not attached to the physical, I am attached to the moment.

People who attach to the physical are afraid of it. They run away.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You say people who are attached to the physical are afraid of it and run from it. Well in this instance id have to say i believe you are attached to it afraid to lose it and refuse to move on from it. There is more to being and more to living then this little earth. You win some you lose some. But if you dont move forward you will gain nothing.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


You speak of moving forward yet you confess that you must wait in order to do so.

I think it is possible to change humanity without waiting.

I am not afraid to die on this planet, like some people are. I will gladly go the way of my ancestors, but I want something better for our children. If I have to die here in order to strive to that end, then so be it.

Whyever would I wait when I have this life and its time, and I am already dying each moment of it? Our children will outlive us and inherit what we leave behind, just as we inherited from generations past.

No, I am not the one who is afraid. I neither wait nor run.

You would do both.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


The earth is in the process of recyling itself as i type this. It has done it before and it will do it again..and again as need be. People have abused and misused her. that will get corrected. God has his hands on the situation.
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


Well, I am no coward, believe me - I died defending freedom on the shores of Normandy in one of my earlier incarnations. flag waver

I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


Oh, so wait.

You've been here forever helping us, but now that things are worse then ever (you call that help?) it's time for your badass people to come and save us from ourselves.

You should leave without a second glance--you don't deserve this beautiful planet, or the power you wield as a human being.

And your "help" has certainly been useless considering that the measurement of success is the result and effectiveness thereof.

You look around you and are despondent at the results, you would say we should give up and run away. You anticipate your saviour ships.

I do wish you the best, even if you are a coward.

I'm sorry. I call it as I see it.

You wish to abandon the problems facing humanity and our planet.
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
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Well, I am no coward, believe me - I died defending freedom on the shores of Normandy in one of my earlier incarnations. flag waver

I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


funny, one of mine i was a native american indian. actually christmas day i had flash backs..they had a hard time killing me lol. oh and for the record and there really is no need to set this straight but out of amusement i will. i am I REPEAT am FEMALE :D no one feel bad though i have quite a bit of male energy. so my typing tone and energy gets mistaken often over the internet. Not a problem though. call me what you will..i have no problem.
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


Well, I am no coward, believe me - I died defending freedom on the shores of Normandy in one of my earlier incarnations. flag waver

I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


Oh, so wait.

You've been here forever helping us, but now that things are worse then ever (you call that help?) it's time for your badass people to come and save us from ourselves.

You should leave without a second glance--you don't deserve this beautiful planet, or the power you wield as a human being.

And your "help" has certainly been useless considering that the measurement of success is the result and effectiveness thereof.

You look around you and are despondent at the results, you would say we should give up and run away. You anticipate your saviour ships.

I do wish you the best, even if you are a coward.

I'm sorry. I call it as I see it.

You wish to abandon the problems facing humanity and our planet.
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"our" planet? no, your planet. I got stationed here. this is not my home.
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Whos with me and how are we going to do it? None of us know gow much time we have left but jeez I wish I could just contine living somewhere not on eaeth. In a happy, stable environment where people respect each other and there is no negativity. I know its out there. Its home. But this.planet hasent gone to hell as far as im concerned it is hell. Its a PRISON! How do we pull a planetary (shawshank redemption?) Thoughts.ideas?
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me too me too me too me too me too me too

I want to go to heaven.
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AttackOfTheKreel, she got you with the word coward, she sensed that and is hammering you knowing that you will react. No matter what you say/explain she just press the button 'coward' and you react. Question is, why is she so pissed that you want to leave the planet, when seven billions will continue to be here? I sense/appreciate that you are open and sincere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


Well, I am no coward, believe me - I died defending freedom on the shores of Normandy in one of my earlier incarnations. flag waver

I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


Oh, so wait.

You've been here forever helping us, but now that things are worse then ever (you call that help?) it's time for your badass people to come and save us from ourselves.

You should leave without a second glance--you don't deserve this beautiful planet, or the power you wield as a human being.

And your "help" has certainly been useless considering that the measurement of success is the result and effectiveness thereof.

You look around you and are despondent at the results, you would say we should give up and run away. You anticipate your saviour ships.

I do wish you the best, even if you are a coward.

I'm sorry. I call it as I see it.

You wish to abandon the problems facing humanity and our planet.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


"our" planet? no, your planet. I got stationed here. this is not my home.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


lol

You're saying that you are an uninvited occupying force of foreigners on my planet pretending to be human?

And you're here to help us and have been here for lifetimes, yet things are worse than ever?

Now you have done all you can and must abandon the project, waiting to be brought home by your people from an invading race?

Where have I heard this before?
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Well, I am no coward, believe me - I died defending freedom on the shores of Normandy in one of my earlier incarnations. flag waver

I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel


Oh, so wait.

You've been here forever helping us, but now that things are worse then ever (you call that help?) it's time for your badass people to come and save us from ourselves.

You should leave without a second glance--you don't deserve this beautiful planet, or the power you wield as a human being.

And your "help" has certainly been useless considering that the measurement of success is the result and effectiveness thereof.

You look around you and are despondent at the results, you would say we should give up and run away. You anticipate your saviour ships.

I do wish you the best, even if you are a coward.

I'm sorry. I call it as I see it.

You wish to abandon the problems facing humanity and our planet.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


"our" planet? no, your planet. I got stationed here. this is not my home.
 Quoting: phoenixfire25


lol

You're saying that you are an uninvited occupying force of foreigners on my planet pretending to be human?

And you're here to help us and have been here for lifetimes, yet things are worse than ever?

Now you have done all you can and must abandon the project, waiting to be brought home by your people from an invading race?

Where have I heard this before?
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


Nope, what i am saying is this is not my planet. I dont know the details..but i do know this is not my planet. I will now head to bed. Goodnight to you all.
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I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel

Actually is more simple: she wants to make you feel guilty, for your desire to leave the planet.
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Goodnight hf

I too must retire for the night. :)

And please know that I was not trying to argue - we just want to see our loved ones again and are very excited to get the opportunity. luv

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I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
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Actually is more simple: she wants to make you feel guilty, for your desire to leave the planet.
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Bingo! ;)
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I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
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Actually is more simple: she wants to make you feel guilty, for your desire to leave the planet.
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I don't want you to do or feel anything. That is for you to determine.

I am simply pointing out the cowardice of running away from the problems of humanity into the arms of alien saviors from another planet.

Afterall, the thread title is "I want OFF this planet", not to make it better or improve it, but to get OFF of it.
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I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel

Actually is more simple: she wants to make you feel guilty, for your desire to leave the planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


I don't want you to do or feel anything. That is for you to determine.

I am simply pointing out the cowardice of running away from the problems of humanity into the arms of alien saviors from another planet.

Afterall, the thread title is "I want OFF this planet", not to make it better or improve it, but to get OFF of it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You know no one got mad when the dolphines said " So long and thanks for all the fish" Cant you just say something on a positive note instead of trying to guilt trip?
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Re: I want OFF this planet!


chuckle 1dpanic
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01/20/2012 02:10 AM
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Re: I want OFF this planet!
I believe she thinks we will abandon this planet without a second glance back - leaving it to decay and ruin. NOTHING could be further from the truth. hf
 Quoting: AttackOfTheKreel

Actually is more simple: she wants to make you feel guilty, for your desire to leave the planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1601759


I don't want you to do or feel anything. That is for you to determine.

I am simply pointing out the cowardice of running away from the problems of humanity into the arms of alien saviors from another planet.

Afterall, the thread title is "I want OFF this planet", not to make it better or improve it, but to get OFF of it.
 Quoting: SecondPrecession


You know no one got mad when the dolphines said " So long and thanks for all the fish" Cant you just say something on a positive note instead of trying to guilt trip?
 Quoting: phoenixfire25




I already said that I think we are capable of solving the problems that face humanity.

Today, and now. Without waiting and without intercession from aliens.

hf
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01/20/2012 02:11 AM

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I don't believe our planets problems are survivable. I don't believe it's worth it to redeem our social system.
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01/20/2012 02:13 AM
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Anyone who can afford it might think about getting out of the USA. 4 more years of this clown and the destruction will be complete....
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01/20/2012 02:13 AM
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I don't believe our planets problems are survivable. I don't believe it's worth it to redeem our social system.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


Are we worth creating a new one?

I think our planet will outlast us all. That doesn't mean we must kill ourselves off, or that we have to.

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