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The Government is coming to take our guns away!!!!!!!!!

 
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at the beginning of the video the newscaster's boobs flash.... I shit you not.... watch
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Talk about subliminal messaging!!
...And taking people's minds off the subject at hand.
Wow
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at the beginning of the video the newscaster's boobs flash.... I shit you not.... watch
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Talk about subliminal messaging!!
...And taking people's minds off the subject at hand.
Wow
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She was showing her conceiled puppins.
It's easy to find something worth dying for. Do you have anything worth living for?
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They're gonna take our guns away......

[link to www.cnn.com]


If you cant get through with link let me know......
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facists papers
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It's a part from the agenda.. nothing amazing here..
In these times of information, ignorance is a choice !
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at the beginning of the video the newscaster's boobs flash.... I shit you not.... watch
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1486841


Talk about subliminal messaging!!
...And taking people's minds off the subject at hand.
Wow
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i thought she was wearing some kind of body armor (or booby armor) so nobody can scan her...

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A study published in 2010 and conducted by Boian S. Alexandrov and colleagues at the Center for Nonlinear Studies at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico performed mathematical models how terahertz radiation interact with double-stranded DNA, showing that, even though involved forces seem to be tiny, nonlinear resonances (although much less likely to form than less-powerful common resonances) could allow terahertz waves to "unzip double-stranded DNA, creating bubbles in the double strand that could significantly interfere with processes such as gene expression and DNA replication".

Yes, that IS one sentence......

Be afraid of your future.
Normal people scare me... But not nearly as much as I scare them.
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For every action of surveillance the gov takes against you...
You are free to use whatever counter measure to ensure your privacy.
Just buy lead lined clothes.
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Supreme Court Justices On
The Fourth Amendment
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"This provision (the 4th Amendment) speaks for itself. Its plain object is to secure the perfect enjoyment of that great right of the common law, that a man's house shall be his own castle, privileged against all civil and military intrusion." -- Justice Joseph Story (1779-1845) US Supreme Court Justice 1833
[link to quotes.liberty-tree.ca]


"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury... nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, nor shall be compelled in any Criminal Case to be a witness against himself, not be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law, nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." -- Constitution of the United States Source: Bill of Rights, Fifth Amendment, 1791 [link to quotes.liberty-tree.ca] Constitution.of.the.United.States.Quote.38E3


"The 4th Amendment and the personal rights it secures have a long history. At the very core stands the right of a man to retreat into his own home and there be free from unreasonable governmental intrusion." -- Justice Potter Stewart (1915-1985), U. S. Supreme Court Justice Source: Bartkus v. Illinois, 5 March 1961 [link to quotes.liberty-tree.ca]
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Please read all of these folks!

* Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. – James Madison

* The Constitution shall never be construed … to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. – Samuel Adams

* A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand. – Lucius Annaeus Seneca, c. 4BC - 65AD.

* Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest. – Mahatma Gandhi, in Gandhi, An Autobiography, p. 446

* The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner. – Report of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, 97th Congress, Second Session (February 1982)

* The usual road to slavery is that first they take away your guns, then they take away your property, then last of all they tell you to shut up and say you are enjoying it. – James A. Donald

* They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here? – Paul Harvey 8/31/94

* After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. – William S. Burroughs

* The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. – Alexander Hamilton

* When they took the 4th Amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs.
When they took the 6th Amendment, I was quiet because I am innocent.
When they took the 2nd Amendment, I was quiet because I don't own a gun.
Now they have taken the 1st Amendment, and I can only be quiet.
– Lyle Myhr

* Armed people are free. No state can control those who have the machinery and the will to resist, no mob can take their liberty and property. And no 220-pound thug can threaten the well-being or dignity of a 110-pound woman who has two pounds of iron to even things out … People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically right. Guns ended that, and a social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work. – L. Neil Smith (from The Probability Broach)

* The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, bows, spears, firearms or other types of arms. The possession of these elements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues, and tends to permit uprising. – Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Japanese Shogun, August 29, 1558

* When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually...I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor... - George Mason, Virginia Constitution Convention

* The police can't stop an intruder, mugger, or stalker from hurting you. They can pursue him only after he has hurt or killed you. Protecting yourself from harm is your responsibility, and you are far less likely to be hurt in a neighborhood of gun owners than in one of disarmed citizens – even if you don't own a gun yourself. – Harry Browne

* A strong body makes a strong mind. As to the species of exercise I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks. – Thomas Jefferson

* Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I'll pull the trigger. We'll see who wins. – Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, whose testimony convicted John Gotti

* To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them. – Richard Henry Lee 1788

* I say that the Second Amendment doesn't allow for exceptions – or else it would have read that the right "to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless Congress chooses otherwise." And because there are no exceptions, I disagree with my fellow panelists who say the existing gun laws should be enforced. Those laws are unconstitutional [and] wrong – because they put you at a disadvantage to armed criminals, to whom the laws are no inconvenience. – Harry Browne, meetings with NRA's EVP, Wayne LaPierre and other panelists at a gun rights rally in Hot Springs, AR, 8/8/2000

* An armed society is a polite society. – Robert A. Heinlein

* “A well-crafted pepperoni pizza, being necessary to the preservation of a diverse menu, the right of the people to keep and cook tomatoes, shall not be infringed.” I would ask you to try to argue that this statement says that only pepperoni pizzas can keep and cook tomatoes, and only well-crafted ones at that. This is basically what the so-called states rights people argue with respect to the well-regulated militia, vs. the right to keep and bear arms. – Bruce Tiemann

* Switzerland is a land where crime is virtually unknown, yet most Swiss males are required by law to keep in their homes what amounts to a portable, personal machine gun. –Tom Clancy

* To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them. – George Mason

* Gun bans don't disarm criminals, gun bans attract them. – Walter Mondale

* Try to halt violence by restricting gun ownership and you won't halt violence. But you will create entire classes of new criminals – people who make paperwork errors, violate technical specification of the law, or rebel against the new restrictions. And you'll create new bureaus, new enforcement arms, new prisons to punish them. You'll make hordes of lawyers and bureaucrats very happy. Organized criminals will be grateful to the naive moral crusaders ("useful idiots") as they profit by selling an illegal product. And ordinary street criminals will bless fools, legislators, and "leaders" for making their job so much safer. – JPFO's "Bill of Rights Sentinel", Fall 2001.

* This country was founded by religious nuts with guns. – P.J. O'Rourke

* Those who beat their swords into plough shares shall plough for those who don't. – Anonymous

* The Second Amendment is the Equal Rights Amendment. – Jannalee Tobias

* Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom. – John F. Kennedy

* Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. - Thomas Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

* Criminals obey "gun control" laws in the same manner politicians follow their oaths of office. – Anonymous

* Suppose the Second amendment said "A well-educated electorate being necessary for self-governance in a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed." Is there anyone who would suggest that means only registered voters have a right to read? – Robert Levy, Georgetown University professor

* Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands? - Patrick Henry

* ...arms...discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. ...Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them. -- Thomas Paine

* "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson

* We should not forget that the spark which ignited the American Revolution was caused by the British attempt to confiscate the firearms of the colonists. - Patrick Henry
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Just wrap the gun in aluminum foil to distort it's shape... Oh that's just a sandwich wrapped in aluminum foil he's carrying in his pack..or whatever shape the person wants to make it into.
 Quoting: Generation Doom


THIS^^^^
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Yeah cause that's convenient, your robbed or attacked,,....OK wait let me UNWRAP my sandwich shaped gun!!!!!!

I know when I conceal carry I always think, DAMN, I should wrap this up in some foil for easy access!
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if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it."
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True patriots!



I hear by Captn Wm Riley news that makes me very Sorry for he Says you proved a Grand Coward when the fight was at Bunkers hill.. .. If you are afraid pray own the truth & come home & take care of our Children & I will be Glad to Come & take your place, & never will be Called a Coward, neither will I throw away one Cartridge but exert myself bravely in so good a Cause.

—Abigail Grant to her husband

August 19, 1776

BETWEEN 1775 AND 1799. .. 1775: Patrick Henry attempts to persuade Virginia to arm its militia against the British, declaring: "I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death." The first shots of the Revolutionary War are fired at Lexington and Concord.



Why we stand free today!
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If everyone were to become a rifleman, they'd forget the whole idea.

You can count on Obama signing some sort of executive order making firearms illegal to own shortly after the election.
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The answer is easy....fucking leave new york and never look back.
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If everyone were to become a rifleman, they'd forget the whole idea.

You can count on Obama signing some sort of executive order making firearms illegal to own shortly after the election.
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Let me tell ya something...I can't remember the last time our congress stood up to him and said no. Hell, I'm wondering if we have one at this point!

They are obliged as our representatives to uphold the Constitution of the United States...They have failed us miserably.

Term limits is and should be a important subject of this election.

Just as you stated will happen unless we stand up to our rights given to us to protect us from this socialism.

There will be plenty of problems if they mess with the 2nd!
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yeah? with the help of what 100,000,000 man army?

stupid
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Yea but if it comes down to that....they have an advantage already...they know what you have....takes the element of surprise away from you...
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM


Records are purged for long guns after 10 days.

Records on handguns stay 25 years + I believe.

This will change in two years in California though.

80million estimated gun owners in the country 200+ million guns estimated in the country probibly a lot more.

Not to mention C&R weapons have no paperwork trail.
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Care to elaborate?
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For anyone looking to purchase a firearm, don't wait. On black friday they sold almost 130,000 guns. Sales have been strong ever since. The day is coming when the public will figure out what is going on and they will bum rush the gun stores. And prices will go vertical.
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Just wrap the gun in aluminum foil to distort it's shape... Oh that's just a sandwich wrapped in aluminum foil he's carrying in his pack..or whatever shape the person wants to make it into.
 Quoting: Generation Doom




Your a criminal... but i love it.........


But really its the point but not...the point goes more towards the invasion of privacy....the scanning the prying...
 Quoting: DOOM-N-GLOOM



The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


I guess they're just ignoring the 4th amendment now... There's no probable cause for this.
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The National Defense and Authorization Act just nullified the Fourth Amendment.
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What bothers me the most is they are using terrahertz waves to detect the weapon.

Terrahertz frequencies have not been explored as to what kind of damage they can do to DNA or other things like cellular integrity.

These scientists just found one application and let the engineers run with the projects.

What's next? Terrahertz rectum scans for ballistic shit?
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The very first lawsuits will involve parents with deformed children. Just watch and see.
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Obama just approved the long awaited
importation of left over M1's
from South Korea.
Should be tens of thousands of them for
sale at your local gun store within the
year.

Obama allows import of 86000 M1 rifles from Korea
Washington has agreed to allow the importation of M1 Garand rifles from Seoul, reversing its earlier decision to ban the shipping of the weapon used by South Korean and U.S. soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War, a senior defense official said Wednesday.
[link to www.koreatimes.co.kr]
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Obama just approved the long awaited
importation of left over M1's
from South Korea.
Should be tens of thousands of them for
sale at your local gun store within the
year.

Obama allows import of 86000 M1 rifles from Korea
Washington has agreed to allow the importation of M1 Garand rifles from Seoul, reversing its earlier decision to ban the shipping of the weapon used by South Korean and U.S. soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War, a senior defense official said Wednesday.
[link to www.koreatimes.co.kr]
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should be interesting to see what kind of retail price gets slapped on these...
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Obama just approved the long awaited
importation of left over M1's
from South Korea.
Should be tens of thousands of them for
sale at your local gun store within the
year.

Obama allows import of 86000 M1 rifles from Korea
Washington has agreed to allow the importation of M1 Garand rifles from Seoul, reversing its earlier decision to ban the shipping of the weapon used by South Korean and U.S. soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War, a senior defense official said Wednesday.
[link to www.koreatimes.co.kr]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9214840


Looks like most of us won't be able to buy them:

The historic firearms are expected to be sold to American Korean War veterans and their families in time for the 62nd anniversary of the Korean War, which falls on June 25 this year.”
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M1's will blow your whole torso off.
My relationship with death hasnt changed......I am strongly against it.
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They may try.
They better have a nationwide metal detector to find mine.
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Misleading thread title.... Does NYC allow for concealed carry? NO..... How do these scanners imply they are going to take away the guns from legal gun owners? It doesn't....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


It's pretty simple in my book, empower the state against the people without them sheeple ever knowing it.

It empowers them! Why do they need it? Fight crime? Armed citizens is the best deterrent.

Think about that...if you are a criminal and carry was legal, wouldn't you think twice about robbing a person that could be armed vs...carry is illegal and the perpetrator knowing 100% that you are unarmed.

Common sense shit our founders of the constitution thought about and made law.
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You're missing the point... There is no concealed carry allowed in NYC... These scanners aren't doing anything to take guns away from legal gun owners (WHO ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY IN PUBLIC).... Wake me up when they start showing up at peoples' doors and confiscating legal and registered firearms.

Now if there was concealed carry permitted in this jurisdiction. And these scanners were being utilized to harass and infringe on the rights of legal gun owners exercising their rights, THEN, I would have a problem with this.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC



Hey Paid Account SHILL, IT IS EVERYONES GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!! The Constitution just reiterates that pre existing natural right. NO KING BUT KING JESUS!!!
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will NEVER happen
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I don't know you from Adam, but I like your style

keep up the good work

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Misleading thread title.... Does NYC allow for concealed carry? NO..... How do these scanners imply they are going to take away the guns from legal gun owners? It doesn't....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


It's pretty simple in my book, empower the state against the people without them sheeple ever knowing it.

It empowers them! Why do they need it? Fight crime? Armed citizens is the best deterrent.

Think about that...if you are a criminal and carry was legal, wouldn't you think twice about robbing a person that could be armed vs...carry is illegal and the perpetrator knowing 100% that you are unarmed.

Common sense shit our founders of the constitution thought about and made law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378340


You're missing the point... There is no concealed carry allowed in NYC... These scanners aren't doing anything to take guns away from legal gun owners (WHO ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY IN PUBLIC).... Wake me up when they start showing up at peoples' doors and confiscating legal and registered firearms.

Now if there was concealed carry permitted in this jurisdiction. And these scanners were being utilized to harass and infringe on the rights of legal gun owners exercising their rights, THEN, I would have a problem with this.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC



Hey Paid Account SHILL, IT IS EVERYONES GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!! The Constitution just reiterates that pre existing natural right. NO KING BUT KING JESUS!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8930306


1) I don't have a paid account. Notice how it says "offer upgrade"???

2) I'm a registered gun owner. Don't preach to me about people having a right to defend themselves.

If you were able to follow along (which you weren't), you'd acknowledge that these scanners are not infringing on the rights of registered gun owners... There is no open/concealed carry in NY.

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If everyone were to become a rifleman, they'd forget the whole idea.

You can count on Obama signing some sort of executive order making firearms illegal to own shortly after the election.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765


Let me tell ya something...I can't remember the last time our congress stood up to him and said no. Hell, I'm wondering if we have one at this point!

They are obliged as our representatives to uphold the Constitution of the United States...They have failed us miserably.

Term limits is and should be a important subject of this election.

Just as you stated will happen unless we stand up to our rights given to us to protect us from this socialism.

There will be plenty of problems if they mess with the 2nd!
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Valid birth certificates should be required too, oh yeah they are required.
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