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"Chemtrails" in 1979

 
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I am old enough to remember exactly what it looked like coming out of the planes. It looked like chemicals coming out of the back of the planes.

 Quoting: soulJAH


Exactly...

And contrails don't form till almost a wingspan behind the engines...

Thanks for proving my point...

And if you were really in country, thanks for your service...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


You can obfuscate my point, as is your right.

Either way, chemicals were being sprayed out of the back of planes, no matter the altitude - chemicals sprayed - chemtrails. Whether it is 2012 or 1969 - the same scenario is being played out 'secretly' in plain sight. Chemicals are being sprayed out of the back of planes.

hi
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I am old enough to remember exactly what it looked like coming out of the planes. It looked like chemicals coming out of the back of the planes.

 Quoting: soulJAH


Exactly...

And contrails don't form till almost a wingspan behind the engines...

Thanks for proving my point...

And if you were really in country, thanks for your service...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


You can obfuscate my point, as is your right.

Either way, chemicals were being sprayed out of the back of planes, no matter the altitude - chemicals sprayed - chemtrails. Whether it is 2012 or 1969 - the same scenario is being played out 'secretly' in plain sight. Chemicals are being sprayed out of the back of planes.

hi
 Quoting: soulJAH


Right...as with everything we do...which creates aerosols. But, the trails we see are STILL contrails...and no one has shown that there is any "mission" or "operation" underway to purposely put anything into the air, secretly...or as part of any intentional geoengineering "program".
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Not the way it works...

Do you have any evidence that there is a massive secret 'spraying operation'?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Hey Snake -

What about Agent Orange during the Vietnam War?

What were the people on the ground - soldiers and civilians alike seeing coming from the planes spraying Agent Oraange - 'contrails' or 'chemical trails"?

During that war it took time before "a massive secret spraying operation" was in fact taking place.

hi
 Quoting: soulJAH


When agent orange was released...it looked nothing like the trails we see in the sky.

And so what...what makes that any kind of evidence for what MAY BE happening now?!

Oh, the old..."They did it before...they MUST be doing it now" brand of evidence?!?
 Quoting: Noble


Your right - each "chemical" mixture will produce different results in the atmosphere.

The point remains that people in Vietnam witnessed chemicals being sprayed from airplanes - i.e "chemtrails".

The premise remains the same - the chemical compounds and how they manifest in the sky and on the ground is the only thing which has changed.

And yes, the government secretly sprayed chemicals on soldiers and civilians alike, then derailed any sort of help for the soldiers who were sprayed - secretly.
 Quoting: soulJAH


Just because you people label the release of agent orange as a "chemtrail"...doesn't mean it was a "chemtrail". You are making up a word to describe a past event...then you are using the same word to describe contrails...to suggest that contrails are as nefarious and intentional as agent orange. Sorry, the only thing these things haver in common is "airplanes".

Not good enough...
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Re: "Chemtrails" in 1979
actually it goes back to at least 1974.

[link to www.sunshine-project.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9298027


That's cloud seeding. Did you read the paper? It describes dropping stuff into the tops of clouds that already exist. That wouldn't make a trail.
 Quoting: The Guy


how do you "seed" a cloud that already exists, If you are using the word in the same context as you are implying it should be called cloud spraying.


cloud seeding would imply one is planting the seeds of clouds

The seed of clouds would be heat and water evaporation combined with atmospheric pressure.
So which part of the cloud seed is being sprayed?

Last Edited by RollinSoLo on 01/30/2012 12:52 PM
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Re: "Chemtrails" in 1979
I am old enough to remember exactly what it looked like coming out of the planes. It looked like chemicals coming out of the back of the planes.

 Quoting: soulJAH


Exactly...

And contrails don't form till almost a wingspan behind the engines...

Thanks for proving my point...

And if you were really in country, thanks for your service...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


You can obfuscate my point, as is your right.

Either way, chemicals were being sprayed out of the back of planes, no matter the altitude - chemicals sprayed - chemtrails. Whether it is 2012 or 1969 - the same scenario is being played out 'secretly' in plain sight. Chemicals are being sprayed out of the back of planes.

hi
 Quoting: soulJAH


Right...as with everything we do...which creates aerosols. But, the trails we see are STILL contrails...and no one has shown that there is any "mission" or "operation" underway to purposely put anything into the air, secretly...or as part of any intentional geoengineering "program".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027


"Government and industry cover-ups on Agent Orange are nothing new, though. They have been going on since before the herbicide was introduced in the jungles of Vietnam in the early 1960s. "

Unknown to the tens of thousands of American soldiers and Vietnamese civilians who were living, eating and bathing in a virtual omnipresent mist of the rainbow herbicides, the makers of these chemicals were well aware of their long-term toxic effects, but sought to suppress the information from the government and the public, fearing negative backlash.

Of particular concern to the chemical companies was Agent Orange, which contained dioxin. Publicly, the chemical companies said dioxin occurred naturally in the environment and was not harmful to humans.

Privately, they knew otherwise."

<snip>
A February 22, 1965 Dow Chemical Corporation internal memorandum provided a summary of a meeting in which 13 executives discussed the potential hazards of dioxin in 2,4,5-T. Following that meeting, Dow officials decided to meet with other makers of the chemical and formulate a stance on Agent Orange and dioxin."

"After minimal experimentation in 1961, a variety of chemical agents was shipped to Vietnam to aid in anti-guerilla efforts. The chemicals were to be used to destroy food sources and eliminate foliage that concealed enemy troop movements. "

"In 1962, 15,000 gallons of herbicide were sprayed throughout Vietnam. The following year that amount nearly quadrupled, as 59,000 gallons of chemicals were poured into the forests and streams. The amounts increased significantly after that: 175,000 gallons in 1964, 621,000 gallons in 1965 and 2.28 million gallons in 1966. "

THE U.S. VETERAN DISPATCH
[link to www.usvetdsp.com]


The only difference between now and then is that the Government is well aware of the spraying as no one would be allowed to spray in U.S sovereign airspace without the permission of the Government.
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Either way, chemicals were being sprayed out of the back of planes, no matter the altitude - chemicals sprayed - chemtrails.

No one said chemicals were not being sprayed out the back of planes in Viet Nam...Crop dusters do it every day, as do cloud seeding flares on planes...Just because you feel the need to make up a name for something that already has a name does not make a sow's ear into a silk purse, just cuz you want to call it one...

Whether it is 2012 or 1969 - the same scenario is being played out 'secretly' in plain sight. Chemicals are being sprayed out of the back of planes.

Again...Agent orange was not a secret from anyone...

 Quoting: soulJAH

"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Re: "Chemtrails" in 1979
actually it goes back to at least 1974.

[link to www.sunshine-project.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9298027


That's cloud seeding. Did you read the paper? It describes dropping stuff into the tops of clouds that already exist. That wouldn't make a trail.
 Quoting: The Guy


how do you "seed" a cloud that already exists, If you are using the word in the same context as you are implying it should be called cloud spraying.


cloud seeding would imply one is planting the seeds of clouds

The seed of clouds would be heat and water evaporation combined with atmospheric pressure.
So which part of the cloud seed is being sprayed?
 Quoting: RollinSoLo


Try Google...

pick
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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"Government and industry cover-ups on Agent Orange are nothing new, though. They have been going on since before the herbicide was introduced in the jungles of Vietnam in the early 1960s. "

Unknown to the tens of thousands of American soldiers and Vietnamese civilians who were living, eating and bathing in a virtual omnipresent mist of the rainbow herbicides, the makers of these chemicals were well aware of their long-term toxic effects, but sought to suppress the information from the government and the public, fearing negative backlash.

Of particular concern to the chemical companies was Agent Orange, which contained dioxin. Publicly, the chemical companies said dioxin occurred naturally in the environment and was not harmful to humans.

Privately, they knew otherwise."

<snip>
A February 22, 1965 Dow Chemical Corporation internal memorandum provided a summary of a meeting in which 13 executives discussed the potential hazards of dioxin in 2,4,5-T. Following that meeting, Dow officials decided to meet with other makers of the chemical and formulate a stance on Agent Orange and dioxin."

"After minimal experimentation in 1961, a variety of chemical agents was shipped to Vietnam to aid in anti-guerilla efforts. The chemicals were to be used to destroy food sources and eliminate foliage that concealed enemy troop movements. "

"In 1962, 15,000 gallons of herbicide were sprayed throughout Vietnam. The following year that amount nearly quadrupled, as 59,000 gallons of chemicals were poured into the forests and streams. The amounts increased significantly after that: 175,000 gallons in 1964, 621,000 gallons in 1965 and 2.28 million gallons in 1966. "

THE U.S. VETERAN DISPATCH
[link to www.usvetdsp.com]


The only difference between now and then is that the Government is well aware of the spraying as no one would be allowed to spray in U.S sovereign airspace without the permission of the Government.
 Quoting: soulJAH


As I said...Everyone knew they were being exposed to chemicals...

Thanks for proving my point yet again!

You are one very accommodating chemmie...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Re: "Chemtrails" in 1979
actually it goes back to at least 1974.

[link to www.sunshine-project.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9298027


That's cloud seeding. Did you read the paper? It describes dropping stuff into the tops of clouds that already exist. That wouldn't make a trail.
 Quoting: The Guy


how do you "seed" a cloud that already exists, If you are using the word in the same context as you are implying it should be called cloud spraying.


cloud seeding would imply one is planting the seeds of clouds

The seed of clouds would be heat and water evaporation combined with atmospheric pressure.
So which part of the cloud seed is being sprayed?
 Quoting: RollinSoLo


Cloud seeding is meant to cause rain. Rainmaking, as it was called, predates the airplane. In the 1890s General Dryenforth launched ballons with explosives into clouds to make rain. The general thought is cloud seeding material, either silver iodide or dry ice, is a nucleation site for a water drop to form.
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Either way, chemicals were being sprayed out of the back of planes, no matter the altitude - chemicals sprayed - chemtrails.

No one said chemicals were not being sprayed out the back of planes in Viet Nam...Crop dusters do it every day, as do cloud seeding flares on planes...Just because you feel the need to make up a name for something that already has a name does not make a sow's ear into a silk purse, just cuz you want to call it one...

Whether it is 2012 or 1969 - the same scenario is being played out 'secretly' in plain sight. Chemicals are being sprayed out of the back of planes.

Again...Agent orange was not a secret from anyone...

 Quoting: soulJAH

 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Again - you are playing with words Snake. It was a secret mission at first, then it was exposed, and yet both the company making the chemicals and the Government denied it had any ill effects upon the population.

"In Vietnam the US had conducted the
"largest chemical warfare campaign in history."

The Forgotten Story of Agent Orange
[link to www.vetshome.com]

Hidden in plain sight. Same type of psy-ops claiming their is nothing to worry about.
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Well do you have any evidence to prove otherwise?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9861563


Not the way it works...

Do you have any evidence that there is a massive secret 'spraying operation'?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9861563


As I clearly stated, and most sane people understand...

You want me to prove a negative...

Maybe this is easier for you...

When did you stop beating your wife?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Still waiting for you to prove that "they" whoever they maybe are not using high sulfur content fuel to create persistent contrails.
popcorn
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Either way, chemicals were being sprayed out of the back of planes, no matter the altitude - chemicals sprayed - chemtrails.

No one said chemicals were not being sprayed out the back of planes in Viet Nam...Crop dusters do it every day, as do cloud seeding flares on planes...Just because you feel the need to make up a name for something that already has a name does not make a sow's ear into a silk purse, just cuz you want to call it one...

Whether it is 2012 or 1969 - the same scenario is being played out 'secretly' in plain sight. Chemicals are being sprayed out of the back of planes.

Again...Agent orange was not a secret from anyone...

 Quoting: soulJAH

 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Again - you are playing with words Snake. It was a secret mission at first, then it was exposed, and yet both the company making the chemicals and the Government denied it had any ill effects upon the population.

"In Vietnam the US had conducted the
"largest chemical warfare campaign in history."

The Forgotten Story of Agent Orange
[link to www.vetshome.com]

Hidden in plain sight. Same type of psy-ops claiming their is nothing to worry about.
 Quoting: soulJAH


+1 bump
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Exactly...

And contrails don't form till almost a wingspan behind the engines...

Thanks for proving my point...

And if you were really in country, thanks for your service...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


You can obfuscate my point, as is your right.

Either way, chemicals were being sprayed out of the back of planes, no matter the altitude - chemicals sprayed - chemtrails. Whether it is 2012 or 1969 - the same scenario is being played out 'secretly' in plain sight. Chemicals are being sprayed out of the back of planes.

hi
 Quoting: soulJAH


Right...as with everything we do...which creates aerosols. But, the trails we see are STILL contrails...and no one has shown that there is any "mission" or "operation" underway to purposely put anything into the air, secretly...or as part of any intentional geoengineering "program".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027


"Government and industry cover-ups on Agent Orange are nothing new, though. They have been going on since before the herbicide was introduced in the jungles of Vietnam in the early 1960s. "

Unknown to the tens of thousands of American soldiers and Vietnamese civilians who were living, eating and bathing in a virtual omnipresent mist of the rainbow herbicides, the makers of these chemicals were well aware of their long-term toxic effects, but sought to suppress the information from the government and the public, fearing negative backlash.

Of particular concern to the chemical companies was Agent Orange, which contained dioxin. Publicly, the chemical companies said dioxin occurred naturally in the environment and was not harmful to humans.

Privately, they knew otherwise."

<snip>
A February 22, 1965 Dow Chemical Corporation internal memorandum provided a summary of a meeting in which 13 executives discussed the potential hazards of dioxin in 2,4,5-T. Following that meeting, Dow officials decided to meet with other makers of the chemical and formulate a stance on Agent Orange and dioxin."

"After minimal experimentation in 1961, a variety of chemical agents was shipped to Vietnam to aid in anti-guerilla efforts. The chemicals were to be used to destroy food sources and eliminate foliage that concealed enemy troop movements. "

"In 1962, 15,000 gallons of herbicide were sprayed throughout Vietnam. The following year that amount nearly quadrupled, as 59,000 gallons of chemicals were poured into the forests and streams. The amounts increased significantly after that: 175,000 gallons in 1964, 621,000 gallons in 1965 and 2.28 million gallons in 1966. "

THE U.S. VETERAN DISPATCH
[link to www.usvetdsp.com]


The only difference between now and then is that the Government is well aware of the spraying as no one would be allowed to spray in U.S sovereign airspace without the permission of the Government.
 Quoting: soulJAH


You are making ludicrous parallels and paranoid assumptions.

That's not evidence that anything is being sprayed on us on a large scale as part of any program...sorry!
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No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

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Re: "Chemtrails" in 1979
actually it goes back to at least 1974.

[link to www.sunshine-project.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9298027


That's cloud seeding. Did you read the paper? It describes dropping stuff into the tops of clouds that already exist. That wouldn't make a trail.
 Quoting: The Guy


how do you "seed" a cloud that already exists, If you are using the word in the same context as you are implying it should be called cloud spraying.


cloud seeding would imply one is planting the seeds of clouds

The seed of clouds would be heat and water evaporation combined with atmospheric pressure.
So which part of the cloud seed is being sprayed?
 Quoting: RollinSoLo


OMG...MORE evidence that chemtards are just fucking clueless!~

That's not what cloud seeding is...at all!

Not even close!

See what I mean...nothing but stupid assumptions and ignorance...

typical chemtard
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Not the way it works...

Do you have any evidence that there is a massive secret 'spraying operation'?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9861563


As I clearly stated, and most sane people understand...

You want me to prove a negative...

Maybe this is easier for you...

When did you stop beating your wife?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Still waiting for you to prove that "they" whoever they maybe are not using high sulfur content fuel to create persistent contrails.
popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873425


That is called a burden or proof fallacy. The burden of proof is being placed on the wrong party. Those claiming the existence of chemtrails have to provide the evidence suppoting their claim. No one has to prove that they don't exist anymore they you have to prove there isn't a pink elephant in your living room.
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Do you have any evidence to the contrary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9861563


As I clearly stated, and most sane people understand...

You want me to prove a negative...

Maybe this is easier for you...

When did you stop beating your wife?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Still waiting for you to prove that "they" whoever they maybe are not using high sulfur content fuel to create persistent contrails.
popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873425


That is called a burden or proof fallacy. The burden of proof is being placed on the wrong party. Those claiming the existence of chemtrails have to provide the evidence suppoting their claim. No one has to prove that they don't exist anymore they you have to prove there isn't a pink elephant in your living room.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674622


Again, I have never mentioned chemtrails, I am asking the debunkers here to prove that jet fuel does not contain high content sulfur fuel which given the right atmospheric conditions creates persistent contrails and that the high content sulfur fuel is not being used for a geoengineering program.
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As I clearly stated, and most sane people understand...

You want me to prove a negative...

Maybe this is easier for you...

When did you stop beating your wife?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Still waiting for you to prove that "they" whoever they maybe are not using high sulfur content fuel to create persistent contrails.
popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873425


That is called a burden or proof fallacy. The burden of proof is being placed on the wrong party. Those claiming the existence of chemtrails have to provide the evidence suppoting their claim. No one has to prove that they don't exist anymore they you have to prove there isn't a pink elephant in your living room.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674622


Again, I have never mentioned chemtrails, I am asking the debunkers here to prove that jet fuel does not contain high content sulfur fuel which given the right atmospheric conditions creates persistent contrails and that the high content sulfur fuel is not being used for a geoengineering program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9875599


Still burden of proof fallacy. Jet-A fuel can have sulfur content up to 3000ppm but according to a document by Chevron, the worldwide average for sulfur content is between 500 and 1000 ppm. That is known. There are currently no regulations to lower the standard but that is being discussed. At this point, YOU have to provide the evidence that high sulfur content fuel IS being used for a geoengineering program.
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As I clearly stated, and most sane people understand...

You want me to prove a negative...

Maybe this is easier for you...

When did you stop beating your wife?

popcorn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Still waiting for you to prove that "they" whoever they maybe are not using high sulfur content fuel to create persistent contrails.
popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873425


That is called a burden or proof fallacy. The burden of proof is being placed on the wrong party. Those claiming the existence of chemtrails have to provide the evidence suppoting their claim. No one has to prove that they don't exist anymore they you have to prove there isn't a pink elephant in your living room.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674622


Again, I have never mentioned chemtrails, I am asking the debunkers here to prove that jet fuel does not contain high content sulfur fuel which given the right atmospheric conditions creates persistent contrails and that the high content sulfur fuel is not being used for a geoengineering program.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9875599


ALL fuel will create contrails in the right conditions.


And it's up to you to prove that any added sulfur is in place for that purpose.

It's up to YOU to show evidence that anyone has added sulfur to fuel for that purpose.

There is ZERO evidence that anyone is participating in any "geoengineering program" of any kind.

Last Edited by Noble on 01/30/2012 01:57 PM
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

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Again - you are playing with words Snake. It was a secret mission at first, then it was exposed, and yet both the company making the chemicals and the Government denied it had any ill effects upon the population.

 Quoting: soulJAH


Ranch Hand was a 'secret' till the planes flew in 62...

DOW and other companies did indeed keep the ultimate toxicity of dioxin under wraps, but everyone, and their brother knew about the spraying...

You're talking out your ass...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Still waiting for you to prove that "they" whoever they maybe are not using high sulfur content fuel to create persistent contrails.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9873425


It's your fantasy, George...

Show us any evidence it is true...

popcorndeer2
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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I really don't believe in chemtrails seems too far fetched to be true.

However, holly fucking shit... I'm so sick of seeing Snaketard, and Nobletard in EVERY chemtrail theread with the same shit over and over and over and over. Why the fuck do you two care so much about chemtrails and proving them false? Why don't you two asslickers just find something else to do... It really means that much two you??

At least George is somewhat civil until he is attacked by you two fucktards. You basement dwellers are always trying to put everybody down... what the fuck is up with that??
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I really don't believe in chemtrails seems too far fetched to be true.

However, holly fucking shit... I'm so sick of seeing Snaketard, and Nobletard in EVERY chemtrail theread
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Then don't click on them...

Problem solved...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Again - you are playing with words Snake. It was a secret mission at first, then it was exposed, and yet both the company making the chemicals and the Government denied it had any ill effects upon the population.

 Quoting: soulJAH


Ranch Hand was a 'secret' till the planes flew in 62...

DOW and other companies did indeed keep the ultimate toxicity of dioxin under wraps, but everyone, and their brother knew about the spraying...

You're talking out your ass...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I noticed that both you and Noble resort to name calling and abusive behaviour to make your points.

Such behaviour negates authority and validity.

Be well my friend - it is a well known fact that anger is a cover for 'fear'... what are you afraid of that your anger seems to pour forth, sometimes viciously, when it comes to discussions involving chemtrails?

It is my opinion that level of anger is disproportionate to the discussion.

hi grouphug hi
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Still waiting for you to prove that "they" whoever they maybe are not using high sulfur content fuel to create persistent contrails.
popcorn
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That is called a burden or proof fallacy. The burden of proof is being placed on the wrong party. Those claiming the existence of chemtrails have to provide the evidence suppoting their claim. No one has to prove that they don't exist anymore they you have to prove there isn't a pink elephant in your living room.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2674622


Again, I have never mentioned chemtrails, I am asking the debunkers here to prove that jet fuel does not contain high content sulfur fuel which given the right atmospheric conditions creates persistent contrails and that the high content sulfur fuel is not being used for a geoengineering program.
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Still burden of proof fallacy. Jet-A fuel can have sulfur content up to 3000ppm but according to a document by Chevron, the worldwide average for sulfur content is between 500 and 1000 ppm. That is known. There are currently no regulations to lower the standard but that is being discussed. At this point, YOU have to provide the evidence that high sulfur content fuel IS being used for a geoengineering program.
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To prove that there isn't anything out of the ordinary going on which maybe a secret program hidden from the public which uses high content sulfur fuel, then the burden of proof falls to the debunkers and until you and they can do that then the numbers you provided above are meaningless.
Posting the document by Chevron would be a good start, but still wouldn't really be proof if a geoengineering program was being kept from the public.
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Re: "Chemtrails" in 1979
Again - you are playing with words Snake. It was a secret mission at first, then it was exposed, and yet both the company making the chemicals and the Government denied it had any ill effects upon the population.

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Ranch Hand was a 'secret' till the planes flew in 62...

DOW and other companies did indeed keep the ultimate toxicity of dioxin under wraps, but everyone, and their brother knew about the spraying...

You're talking out your ass...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


I noticed that both you and Noble resort to name calling and abusive behaviour to make your points.

Such behaviour negates authority and validity.

Be well my friend - it is a well known fact that anger is a cover for 'fear'... what are you afraid of that your anger seems to pour forth, sometimes viciously, when it comes to discussions involving chemtrails?

It is my opinion that level of anger is disproportionate to the discussion.

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Stop talking out your ass, and I will stop telling you that you are talking out your ass...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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To prove that there isn't anything out of the ordinary going on which maybe a secret program hidden from the public which uses high content sulfur fuel, then the burden of proof falls to the debunkers and until you and they can do that then the numbers you provided above are meaningless.
Posting the document by Chevron would be a good start, but still wouldn't really be proof if a geoengineering program was being kept from the public.
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So you're saying that you haven't stopped beating your Wife?

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I really don't believe in chemtrails seems too far fetched to be true.

However, holly fucking shit... I'm so sick of seeing Snaketard, and Nobletard in EVERY chemtrail theread
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Then don't click on them...

Problem solved...
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Seriously, why the fuck do you two care about this shit so much...? You or NobleTard never answer that question; I've asked it before.

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I really don't believe in chemtrails seems too far fetched to be true.

However, holly fucking shit... I'm so sick of seeing Snaketard, and Nobletard in EVERY chemtrail theread
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Then don't click on them...

Problem solved...
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Seriously, why the fuck do you two care about this shit so much...? You or NobleTard never answer that question; I've asked it before.

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I like laughing at chemmies...

Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

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To prove that there isn't anything out of the ordinary going on which maybe a secret program hidden from the public which uses high content sulfur fuel, then the burden of proof falls to the debunkers and until you and they can do that then the numbers you provided above are meaningless.
Posting the document by Chevron would be a good start, but still wouldn't really be proof if a geoengineering program was being kept from the public.
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So you're saying that you haven't stopped beating your Wife?

popcorn
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I don't have a wife, I'm shagging yours and when I'm not somebody else is while you spend all your time on GLP. sideways
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I don't have a wife, I'm shagging yours and when I'm not somebody else is while you spend all your time on GLP. sideways
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lmao

At least you have a sense of humor...
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