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Mormons are not doom oriented. We are taught to be prepared and to take care of our own families and neighbors, instead of relying on the government to do this for us.
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Boy, Apollo. You shoot all around the target, but never quite seem to hit the bullseye.
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Thats how Ive been trained in the secret societies, Its up to the people to hit the bullseye. I cant reveal it for them.
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JW are biblical on many subjects not so on others.

Mormons are a cult.

I wouldn't join with either. Mormons are the worse of the two without a doubt.
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Boy, Apollo. You shoot all around the target, but never quite seem to hit the bullseye.
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Thats how Ive been trained in the secret societies, Its up to the people to hit the bullseye. I cant reveal it for them.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI



Why do you refer to religions as "secret societies" when information on them is open to the public via the internet. Good thing they are "hiding out"!
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Best gift you give your children or future children, Is the gift of free will and independant thinking. Any adult that brings children into a religious cult basically hands their kids over.

Its better to raise children who are not enslaved to anyone or anything, but blissfully free to forge and create their own life. Their mind and thoughts and free will being their own.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


I concur, Being raised in the catholic church as a young kid I would present Mum with some questions about the church. The answers quickly turned aggressive and angry. I remember many delusional people in our church, they were awsomely narrow minded, no room for debate and quickly get riled. I remember as a kid questioning babptism. If a baby isn't baptised it's soul will not go to heaven but hell instead, The adults, couldn't answer because they didn't know how to. Then to present another statement as a kid...I don't get anything out of church, seems like a social event. Well watch out it became physical. Lots of beatings as a kid. The adults had weekly envangical meetings crazy statements were made by speakers that the bible was the only book to ever be refered to. Fanatic families having difficult lives, financialy for years and years "the lord provides" Cancer and death at a young age, and these were the "best of Christians". Building large heavy crosses and dragging them around town on their backs doing Gods work.
 Quoting: stinky1


Wow, I feel so sad for you growing up like that. So what made you consider trading one for the other? You should study Catholicism again in its true origins, Its origins are Roman and Greek Mythology, The Sun God is Jesus and his story is repeated in Mithras, another Sun God story and virgin birth long before the Bible. This doesnt mean Jesus didnt exist, But that he feel into the energies thats been played out for many years before him. Joseph Campbell wrote about this in the Heroes Journey.


I also encourage all Christians to study original Judaism as well. The original jewish people never believed in Hellfire nor the devil. Satan was just another angel

Investigate the story of Mormonism . Joseph Smith enraged many and was tarred and feathered and hated for his practice of polygamy, He said it was the highest way to heaven and exhaltation and claims that he was chosen by God as a recipient of truth. An angry mob killed him after he was arrested.

Today its simply carried on in the cover of wealth and money and people never think about the origins of their own faith or they ignore it or cover it up. And the Book of Mormon has to be considered as holy doctrine alongside the Bible when you convert.

Its always best to study origins on you own then you see the full picture.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI



I can imagine alot of Chrisitian kids had it the same years ago and of many religious fanatic familes have not evolved from these old disiplined behaviors.

I have experienced Catholism, but am now curious of any organization that talks about the end of days frequently. I would like to observe people and be apart of something when everything lets lose. I don't feel I need support. Just curious about ending an 8yr self alienation, too busy preppin. I agree with your statements that most of us do not study the origins of our faiths, most of are lazy and just attend to get that sense of security. We may find more satisfaction studying on our own, outside of a church. Study several different beliefs. Maybe in the next lifetime or in the bunker when yellow stone is going off. I have
a lot of respect for people who are well versed in all faiths and not ignorant to the others than their own
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I know youre scared of the days to come, But if you follow your true heart, You will get a way out. A solution, I promise you this. You have to stop trusting in men and trust God. This doesnt mean inaction either. Simply ask for truth and get busy.
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Who says I am scared?
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Boy, Apollo. You shoot all around the target, but never quite seem to hit the bullseye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


Thats how Ive been trained in the secret societies, Its up to the people to hit the bullseye. I cant reveal it for them.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI



Why do you refer to religions as "secret societies" when information on them is open to the public via the internet. Good thing they are "hiding out"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


Oh, Im sorry for lack of clarification, After I got out of the "religious" public cults

God found me. or I found God. And a Order "secret society " "which is not public" came to me and taught me.

They focus on the person advancing within and not relying on pulpit preachers to teach them.

The religions are just store fronts

The real stuff are private and not in the public eye.
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JW are biblical on many subjects not so on others.

Mormons are a cult.

I wouldn't join with either. Mormons are the worse of the two without a doubt.
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Why do you say we are a cult?
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Boy, Apollo. You shoot all around the target, but never quite seem to hit the bullseye.
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Thats how Ive been trained in the secret societies, Its up to the people to hit the bullseye. I cant reveal it for them.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI



Why do you refer to religions as "secret societies" when information on them is open to the public via the internet. Good thing they are "hiding out"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


Oh, Im sorry for lack of clarification, After I got out of the "religious" public cults

God found me. or I found God. And a Order "which is not public" came to me and taught me.

They focus on the person advancing within and not relying on pulpit preachers to teach them.

The religions are just store fronts

The real stuff are private and not in the public eye.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


If you were really a Mormon once, you would know we do not have "pulpit preachers."
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The church of Atheist is making more converts every day thanks to them.

Keep up the good work and keep the 10% for your own preps.
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what he said. hmmmmm


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 Quoting: stinky1


Best gift you give your children or future children, Is the gift of free will and independant thinking. Any adult that brings children into a religious cult basically hands their kids over.

Its better to raise children who are not enslaved to anyone or anything, but blissfully free to forge and create their own life. Their mind and thoughts and free will being their own.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


I concur, Being raised in the catholic church as a young kid I would present Mum with some questions about the church. The answers quickly turned aggressive and angry. I remember many delusional people in our church, they were awsomely narrow minded, no room for debate and quickly get riled. I remember as a kid questioning babptism. If a baby isn't baptised it's soul will not go to heaven but hell instead, The adults, couldn't answer because they didn't know how to. Then to present another statement as a kid...I don't get anything out of church, seems like a social event. Well watch out it became physical. Lots of beatings as a kid. The adults had weekly envangical meetings crazy statements were made by speakers that the bible was the only book to ever be refered to. Fanatic families having difficult lives, financialy for years and years "the lord provides" Cancer and death at a young age, and these were the "best of Christians". Building large heavy crosses and dragging them around town on their backs doing Gods work.
 Quoting: stinky1


Wow, I feel so sad for you growing up like that. So what made you consider trading one for the other? You should study Catholicism again in its true origins, Its origins are Roman and Greek Mythology, The Sun God is Jesus and his story is repeated in Mithras, another Sun God story and virgin birth long before the Bible. This doesnt mean Jesus didnt exist, But that he feel into the energies thats been played out for many years before him. Joseph Campbell wrote about this in the Heroes Journey.

I also encourage all Christians to study original Judaism as well. The original jewish people never believed in Hellfire nor the devil. Satan was just another angel

Investigate the story of Mormonism . Joseph Smith enraged many and was tarred and feathered and hated for his practice of polygamy, He said it was the highest way to heaven and exhaltation and claims that he was chosen by God as a recipient of truth. An angry mob killed him after he was arrested.

Today its simply carried on in the cover of wealth and money and people never think about the origins of their own faith or they ignore it or cover it up. And the Book of Mormon has to be considered as holy doctrine alongside the Bible when you convert.

Its always best to study origins on you own then you see the full picture.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


Joseph Smith and those who followed after him.. were also known pedophiles well into the 1900's .. I wouldn't feel sad for someone growing up like that, although I am sure mormon based family without options could be no fun .. but I am sure there is a lesson in that in itself ..

Also with the book of mormon .. the pearl of great price .. and another .. and the bible also ..which basically gets tossed once they baptize you ..

I am really interested in your catholic belief system .. something I never heard of a true catholic (no offense) speaking these kind of beliefs, I have heard seperatly with greek and pagan religions .. again no offense .. I find everything you said intriguing .. and would love to know more .. thread links maybe??

Thanks a bunch .. cool theories I would like to follow on ..
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The church of Atheist is making more converts every day thanks to them.

Keep up the good work and keep the 10% for your own preps.
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Church of Athiest? Not sure what this means, exactly.

We give 10% because that is what the Lord wants us to do. We are blessed because we do this, which is also stated in the Bible.
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Joseph Smith was not a pedophile. He only had one wife.
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Thats how Ive been trained in the secret societies, Its up to the people to hit the bullseye. I cant reveal it for them.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI



Why do you refer to religions as "secret societies" when information on them is open to the public via the internet. Good thing they are "hiding out"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


Oh, Im sorry for lack of clarification, After I got out of the "religious" public cults

God found me. or I found God. And a Order "which is not public" came to me and taught me.

They focus on the person advancing within and not relying on pulpit preachers to teach them.

The religions are just store fronts

The real stuff are private and not in the public eye.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


If you were really a Mormon once, you would know we do not have "pulpit preachers."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


I was talking to all of Christianity in "general"

Im mixing up my terms so people will not know which group I was affiliated with, but I had a high position.

I know this post is about Mormons and JWs in particular, But all churches, all religions today they are guilty.
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What do you mean by "Mormon based family without options"?
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Why do you refer to religions as "secret societies" when information on them is open to the public via the internet. Good thing they are "hiding out"!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


Oh, Im sorry for lack of clarification, After I got out of the "religious" public cults

God found me. or I found God. And a Order "which is not public" came to me and taught me.

They focus on the person advancing within and not relying on pulpit preachers to teach them.

The religions are just store fronts

The real stuff are private and not in the public eye.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


If you were really a Mormon once, you would know we do not have "pulpit preachers."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


I was talking to all of Christianity in "general"

Im mixing up my terms so people will not know which group I was affiliated with, but I had a high position.

I know this post is about Mormons and JWs in particular, But all churches, all religions today they are guilty.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


So, then, you are NOT a Mormon and have never been a Mormon... Am I reading your post correctly? If this is correct, how can you then presume to tell everyone what we believe?
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You can glean information from different things, but buy all means stay as far away as you possibly can from ALL mainstream religious movements.

I am NOT saying to NOT talk to mormons or jws, because I have had some great conversations with both. Both have some truth and good information, but on the other hand both are also off on a lot as well.

If you are seeking truth, then I suggest you cry out to the Creator Himself.

If you read the ancient writings, such as TaNaKh or Ketuvim Netzarim, ask the Ruach/Spirit to guide you and open your eyes and heart to the truth. Basically read in CONTEXT, do not add, do not take away, and do not make it say what it does not.

I left the system back in 2005, and will NEVER go back.

Shalom,
Eliyah
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JW are biblical on many subjects not so on others.

Mormons are a cult.

I wouldn't join with either. Mormons are the worse of the two without a doubt.
 Quoting: SGT 9175077


Why do you say we are a cult?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


Cult means you practice unusual rituals, if you are a true mormon, I won't be rude and put it out there .. but I think you know what I mean .. and don't act so much of a social norm .. but .. I have to throw in my two cents .. and when I left the church .. without asking permission .. I was stalked badly from families to the elders to the head of the womens group .. I am talking multiple visits a day .. it got to the point my very reserved 80 year old grandfather who served in WW2 had to tell them to get the "fuck" off his property .. and I have never heard him swear or get loud in his life .. they were getting extremely pushy as if I owed them something .. and today I am still on the "list"..
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Joseph Smith was not a pedophile. He only had one wife.
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But he had 63 women sealed to him......
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Oh, Im sorry for lack of clarification, After I got out of the "religious" public cults

God found me. or I found God. And a Order "which is not public" came to me and taught me.

They focus on the person advancing within and not relying on pulpit preachers to teach them.

The religions are just store fronts

The real stuff are private and not in the public eye.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


If you were really a Mormon once, you would know we do not have "pulpit preachers."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


I was talking to all of Christianity in "general"

Im mixing up my terms so people will not know which group I was affiliated with, but I had a high position.

I know this post is about Mormons and JWs in particular, But all churches, all religions today they are guilty.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


So, then, you are NOT a Mormon and have never been a Mormon... Am I reading your post correctly? If this is correct, how can you then presume to tell everyone what we believe?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


Cause I was in a Mega powerful worldwide group very similiar that run on the same cult like brainwashing and money obsession.

I didnt tell anyone what to believe, I told them to believe in themselves.

You believe in your Mormon elders, and your church, I only answer now to myself and God !
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I was raised Mormon.

be Mormon if you have to choose between the two, I remember making 72 hour kits for family home evening, good bug out bag.
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I was raised Mormon.

be Mormon if you have to choose between the two, I remember making 72 hour kits for family home evening, good bug out bag.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1590916


So was it like any other church? Or does something bizzar take place behind closed doors? Both seem mysterious to me.Do they know something the rest of us don't. Enlightened?
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The truly bizarre stuff happens at the temple, church is pretty standard especially if you aren't priesthood, just sacrament meeting which consists of a few songs and talks, with sacrament.
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You can glean information from different things, but buy all means stay as far away as you possibly can from ALL mainstream religious movements.

I am NOT saying to NOT talk to mormons or jws, because I have had some great conversations with both. Both have some truth and good information, but on the other hand both are also off on a lot as well.

If you are seeking truth, then I suggest you cry out to the Creator Himself.

If you read the ancient writings, such as TaNaKh or Ketuvim Netzarim, ask the Ruach/Spirit to guide you and open your eyes and heart to the truth. Basically read in CONTEXT, do not add, do not take away, and do not make it say what it does not.

I left the system back in 2005, and will NEVER go back.

Shalom,
Eliyah
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Shalom my Brother, The ruach spirit and the Ain Soph Aur will guide them,

To the Tikkum Olam !
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Most religious cults undergo brainwashing and hypnosis. Its very hard to undo if you ever decide to leave.

If youre willing to be a guinea pig and change your brain wave patterns and more permanently than go ahead and join.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


Such as the secret society cults. They say stuff like:
Wow, I feel so sad for you growing up like that. So what made you consider trading one for the other? You should study Catholicism again in its true origins, Its origins are Roman and Greek Mythology, The Sun God is Jesus and his story is repeated in Mithras, another Sun God story and virgin birth long before the Bible. This doesnt mean Jesus didnt exist, But that he feel into the energies thats been played out for many years before him. Joseph Campbell wrote about this in the Heroes Journey.

I also encourage all Christians to study original Judaism as well. The original jewish people never believed in Hellfire nor the devil. Satan was just another angel

Investigate the story of Mormonism . Joseph Smith enraged many and was tarred and feathered and hated for his practice of polygamy, He said it was the highest way to heaven and exhaltation and claims that he was chosen by God as a recipient of truth. An angry mob killed him after he was arrested.

Today its simply carried on in the cover of wealth and money and people never think about the origins of their own faith or they ignore it or cover it up. And the Book of Mormon has to be considered as holy doctrine alongside the Bible when you convert.

Its always best to study origins on you own then you see the full picture.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


First you need to come to grips with the fact your own masonic cult was founded by the Jesuits and other Templars of the Roman Church to serve the pope in Rome!

Then maybe you could study the history of mother/child worship all the way back to Babylon and discover NONE were virgins. The virgin stories arose only AFTER Jesus.

The Virgin Mary and traditions of Rome do come from Mithraism but Catholicism is not biblical or Christian.

Yes, but what about Gods approval and Grace? I wouldnt place my soul where God did not grace his spirit. Mormons would be polygamous today , just like their Founder whom no Christians back then trusted. But since Monogamy was required to be a part of the statehood,they had to comply

How would God bless a arrangement like that? Treating women as property and multiple sex partners
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


Exactly why you're not really qualified to give advice about Christianity. You should stick with your own New Age cult.

While it is true the guy was hunted and killed the REASON was because Mormons are a masonic cult similar as you belong.
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Who says I am scared?
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You won't be "scared" until you try to leave the Church, then the fear will hit you.....:(
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Best gift you give your children or future children, Is the gift of free will and independant thinking. Any adult that brings children into a religious cult basically hands their kids over.

Its better to raise children who are not enslaved to anyone or anything, but blissfully free to forge and create their own life. Their mind and thoughts and free will being their own.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


I concur, Being raised in the catholic church as a young kid I would present Mum with some questions about the church. The answers quickly turned aggressive and angry. I remember many delusional people in our church, they were awsomely narrow minded, no room for debate and quickly get riled. I remember as a kid questioning babptism. If a baby isn't baptised it's soul will not go to heaven but hell instead, The adults, couldn't answer because they didn't know how to. Then to present another statement as a kid...I don't get anything out of church, seems like a social event. Well watch out it became physical. Lots of beatings as a kid. The adults had weekly envangical meetings crazy statements were made by speakers that the bible was the only book to ever be refered to. Fanatic families having difficult lives, financialy for years and years "the lord provides" Cancer and death at a young age, and these were the "best of Christians". Building large heavy crosses and dragging them around town on their backs doing Gods work.
 Quoting: stinky1


Wow, I feel so sad for you growing up like that. So what made you consider trading one for the other? You should study Catholicism again in its true origins, Its origins are Roman and Greek Mythology, The Sun God is Jesus and his story is repeated in Mithras, another Sun God story and virgin birth long before the Bible. This doesnt mean Jesus didnt exist, But that he feel into the energies thats been played out for many years before him. Joseph Campbell wrote about this in the Heroes Journey.

I also encourage all Christians to study original Judaism as well. The original jewish people never believed in Hellfire nor the devil. Satan was just another angel

Investigate the story of Mormonism . Joseph Smith enraged many and was tarred and feathered and hated for his practice of polygamy, He said it was the highest way to heaven and exhaltation and claims that he was chosen by God as a recipient of truth. An angry mob killed him after he was arrested.

Today its simply carried on in the cover of wealth and money and people never think about the origins of their own faith or they ignore it or cover it up. And the Book of Mormon has to be considered as holy doctrine alongside the Bible when you convert.

Its always best to study origins on you own then you see the full picture.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


Joseph Smith and those who followed after him.. were also known pedophiles well into the 1900's .. I wouldn't feel sad for someone growing up like that, although I am sure mormon based family without options could be no fun .. but I am sure there is a lesson in that in itself ..

Also with the book of mormon .. the pearl of great price .. and another .. and the bible also ..which basically gets tossed once they baptize you ..

I am really interested in your catholic belief system .. something I never heard of a true catholic (no offense) speaking these kind of beliefs, I have heard seperatly with greek and pagan religions .. again no offense .. I find everything you said intriguing .. and would love to know more .. thread links maybe??

Thanks a bunch .. cool theories I would like to follow on ..
 Quoting: rosie80


Rosie, good start is here, Gnosticism.
One of the beliefs of Gnosis is that the temple is you and you and God can communicate

All faiths have a original source

Mary and Jesus were married, cause in the eyes of the universe, Marriage is not wrong.

The Gnosis of the Catholic faith is spiritual ecstasy with God . This is what impregnates you in the immaculate conception

Here is some great books, to give you an idea

[link to www.gnosis.org]
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You can glean information from different things, but buy all means stay as far away as you possibly can from ALL mainstream religious movements.

I am NOT saying to NOT talk to mormons or jws, because I have had some great conversations with both. Both have some truth and good information, but on the other hand both are also off on a lot as well.

If you are seeking truth, then I suggest you cry out to the Creator Himself.

If you read the ancient writings, such as TaNaKh or Ketuvim Netzarim, ask the Ruach/Spirit to guide you and open your eyes and heart to the truth. Basically read in CONTEXT, do not add, do not take away, and do not make it say what it does not.

I left the system back in 2005, and will NEVER go back.

Shalom,
Eliyah
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Shalom my Brother, The ruach spirit and the Ain Soph Aur will guide them,

To the Tikkum Olam !
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


Shalom Ahki!

I only hope more awaken as the Day draws near.

Eliyah
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We give 10% because that is what the Lord wants us to do. We are blessed because we do this, which is also stated in the Bible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252

Yes, your Church pulls in hundreds of millions of dollars a month on donations........and yet this money doesn't go to God, but to the Church Headquarters!

And are they accountable to anybody in your membership for where they spend that money? No, you have no idea where it's really going do you!?!

You're not supposed to put your faith in the "arm of flesh"........and yet you do! :(

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Re: Mormon or Jehovas?
Joseph Smith was not a pedophile. He only had one wife.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9318252


.. he was .. maybe in those days it was ok to date a girl at 9, 10, 11 .. but women were not respected in those days, and had no rights .. currently at that time being worked on by susan b anthony actually ..

Just because someone doesn't legally marry multiple women doesn't mean he isn't a polygamist, pedophile, .. someone that should not be worthy of being spoken to (if there is) a higher power..
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You can glean information from different things, but buy all means stay as far away as you possibly can from ALL mainstream religious movements.

I am NOT saying to NOT talk to mormons or jws, because I have had some great conversations with both. Both have some truth and good information, but on the other hand both are also off on a lot as well.

If you are seeking truth, then I suggest you cry out to the Creator Himself.

If you read the ancient writings, such as TaNaKh or Ketuvim Netzarim, ask the Ruach/Spirit to guide you and open your eyes and heart to the truth. Basically read in CONTEXT, do not add, do not take away, and do not make it say what it does not.

I left the system back in 2005, and will NEVER go back.

Shalom,
Eliyah
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I appreciate your words of wisdom. We believe all religions have good in them. Your religious choice fits your needs and I am sure contains many wise teachings. Our religion does the same. I have studied many religions, and my opinion is that we have much more in common than most like to see/omit. I would prefer everyone focus on our similarities rather than our differences. To me, it's like we are all trying to get one particular city, but there are many, many roads leading to that destination. We are all on different roads yet heading for the same desired destination. We never attack other religions, yet many feel compelled to attack us with false accusations over and over again.

I recently went to Salt Lake City for our General Conference in October. Protestors were yelling at us for not using the Bible and holding up the King James version yelling for us to use it. WE DO! There are so many false ideas about what we believe. That is what is really scary to me. That people would get ugly and vicious over lies, without checking out their arguments first. It is sad, and we pray that they will one day learn the truth of what we believe.

I recommend if you want to know what we believe, go to www.lds.org and read for yourself. Do not read a book written by a Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, etc. You would not read a book written by a Mormon to learn what the Catholics believe, for example.
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We give 10% because that is what the Lord wants us to do. We are blessed because we do this, which is also stated in the Bible.
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Yes, your Church pulls in hundreds of millions of dollars a month on donations........and yet this money doesn't go to God, but to the Church Headquarters!

And are they accountable to anybody in your membership for where they spend that money? No, you have no idea where it's really going do you!?!
 Quoting: ObeWayneKenobe


A lot of christian religion sects run of a tier business .. like one of those bad infomercials!
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