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Misandry -Why Men Don't Exist

 
Sandi_T

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Again.

Innuendo, I simply pointed out men and women are different. Yet.... you really want to argue a point they we are all the same?
 Quoting: Sivaro


What innuendo? You stated very clearly that you believe women are stupid and weak. No such thing as innuendo when you state it bluntly, old chap.

Feminism is not about = rights, It cannot be. Otherwise feminist would be flooding the courts in support of mens rights.

Yet that IS NOT happening. Seriously. You are beyond any rationality or logic.
 Quoting: Sivaro


Feminism is about equal rights for women.

This is not a hard concept. Feminism was about getting equal rights FOR WOMEN.

Just as black people are not campaigning for equal rights for white people.

You are really stupid. Gay people don't campaign for the rights of straight people. Blacks don't campaign for the rights of white people. This is not surprising, and no one runs around like a retard claiming that they then don't want equal rights or they would campaign for everyone else instead of themselves.

Get your own rights, you lazy asshole. We have had to. If you're losing your rights, how about you don't leave it to women to fight for them?

The only thing you see is Women good. Men bad... Its all you preach. I see nothing in your writing or style that leads me to believe you have the moral high ground over me.
 Quoting: Sivaro


You really, really, really have a reading comprehension problem. I feel sorry for you.

In point of fact, it has repeatedly been ME who has brought up the RIGHTS ISSUES that men are facing these days. Not you. Not teschen. Not 363... none of you men even give half a fuck about men's rights.

At least I try and remain honest, I give both sides equal consideration. Yet... You.... NEVER....
 Quoting: Sivaro


No, you don't. Not even a little bit. You say women aren't deserving of the same rights because we're weak and stupid.

All I see is hate and selfishness. If you are proud of yourself, thats your anchor. I see you cant be helped.
 Quoting: Sivaro


Well, again, it's nice that you're honest. Yes, that is all you can see. That's not all that's there, it's simply all that you can see. You see your own hatred.

As far as proud of myself... that's pretty irrelevant. But I'm sure that somewhere in your vaunted "male logic" portion of your almighty brain, it relates somehow to misandry.

Misandry is real, feminism is certainly NOT for mens rights. Never met a feminist yet that would donate to mens causes that were righteous.... Keep on hating, and keep on thinking in your circular logic. I think it is clear you are deranged.
 Quoting: Sivaro


Nobody said it was for men's rights. It was to get equal rights FOR WOMEN because they didn't have them. And in a lot of ways, still do not.

In various areas, the parity is huge. Here women have won their rights, there they haven't... Here blacks have won their rights, there they haven't... so they do the best they can to gain rights in those areas.

Stop waiting for the FEMINIST movement to start taking care of your rights. As a white woman, I'm not sitting on my ass expecting black men to take up for mine... why the fuck are you accusing me of "circular logic" [which apparently is another phrase that you totally invented your own personal meaning for], when you're waiting on women to get you your rights??

And then you and your little henchmen whine about us calling you lazy.

Lazy, I don't know. But you're certainly a dumbass.
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SAVE THE MALES!


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How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women

February 1, 2007
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Feminism is an excellent example of how the Rockefeller mega cartel uses the awesome power of the mass media (i.e. propaganda.) to control society.

In 40 short years, many women have lost touch with their natural loving instincts.

Most women have not lost touch with their loving instincts. . . their natural "male mate" has become vapid and lost their touch with sensitivity and incapable of true love.

Males are the lesser/weaker gender and do not have the capacity to operate on "both" sides of their brain. The first to lose their souls to the devil are this weaker sex.

They are weaker and easier to mind control. The right brain has the connection to the "Source/Creator". Which is only about LOVE. Not, of course, the left brained males - money, power. Surely, not saying that there are not some males who have neurons firing in the right brain.

There are a chosen few. Special, but very much a minority. God knows the special names of these select few males.
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Not all Feminists are bad but MOST are.

Obviously Sandi has an agenda, because women have had equal rights for a long time now. Sandi would be perfectly content if someone said that women were BETTER than men.

Stop acting like you can't vote of get a job like the rest of us. This isn't the sixties.

On that note, if you can't see how men have been pussified, enjoy how many WILL be deadbeat dads when all they have been taught is how to be a pussy by the generation growing up right now.

Maybe we would be more manly if many women didn't treat us like garbage.

You know, at this point I'd be a proud Misogynist, but that's unfortunately the plan all along. Depopulation.

And it is sad, because Men arn't perfect. Neither are women.

The fact that the genders are amused by taking turns backstabbing each other left and right.

We should check and see if the charts on Misogyny and Misandry & homosexuality have a correlation. Now THAT would be an interesting phenomenon.
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Good for you Sandi, YOU ARE CORRECT. The men on this thread are terrified of feminism. They pretend that this is about men being hated but that is bunkum.

As I said earlier in the thread

"Feminism was a necessary movement to undo the unjust oppression of women by men based on wrong religious teachings and a distorted and discriminatory male logic.

I lost nothing through the feminist movement and neither did other men.

I think we men actually gained because that movement started to return the gender in balance in most things back into balance.

The fact that so many men are so scared of women getting close to equal rights and equal opportunity is embarrassing.

Please man up a little, you all sound like school kids!"


I can't believe they are whining about being suppressed as males and it's all those mean feminists fault...1rof1

Even the title of this thread is wrong

Misandry - and then relating it to why men don't exist is laughable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Yawn.
Women weren't oppressed. they just had different priorities. Then technology enabled us to have lots, and lots of new shiny things shoved down our throats. Men can't buy their shit if they have to buy their women's shit, too. So, women needed to get jobs. Then the children could be run buy the state and men and women could both be turned into vacuous consumers with no sense of responsibility for anything that it means to be human. This new breed of human only looks out for their best interests, works and buys, and works and buys. And the kid is trained to be a consumer from birth.

I lost respect for people through the feminist movement, but not solely due to the feminist movement. The title of the thread is fitting, the video points out how the term 'men' doesn't exist in the media.
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You should try to stay awake... You are wrong so sleeping through it won't help you learn anything. 1rof1

Your response here lowers the perceived IQ of many men to it's correct level...lol

The reason that it points out that the word "men" doesn't appear in the media is because the pieces referenced were hand chosen because they don't.

Come on guys please man up a little and stop being so precious.

You are acting like spoilt princesses.
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Sandi T,

I tried to stay away from this thread but my curiosity got the better of me...You have presented some excellent responses to several here. I admire your tenacity. I agree completely with you.

Boys, (and I mean that)

I don't hate men. Admittedly, there have been some I have disliked, just as there have been women I haven't liked. It has nothing to do with their sexuality and everything to do with preference and just plain personality clashes. You want to blame women for your unhappy lot in life....you are giving women a lot of power by doing that. If you want to change your situation then stop blaming and pointing fingers and start taking responsibility for yourself.

Sandi T is correct. The femminist movement is about equal rights for women and not about men. There are Feminists that take it to the extreme and use it to bash men out of their own hatred. But I see you lumping most women into that category and that is incorrect. There are shallow women who will use you but that doesnt make her a man hater. It makes her shallow. If you don't like how the media portrays you, start objecting to the media. Don't BE what you are objecting to. Stop making women responsible for your lot in life.
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Feminism was about getting equal rights FOR WOMEN.
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Sandi,

See, here you nailed it and probably don't realize it. "Was" is the key word here.

Yes, the feminist movement was once a noble and worthwhile undertaking.

However, it's time has passed. Just like EVERY "equal rights" movement for "minorities" (clarification: "Minorities" is defined as "not a white male under the age of 65" by most everyone these days).

Blacks have equal rights now, have for many years. Women have equal rights now, have for many years.

ANY "support groups" that stand for the "advancement" of a race, gender or creed that is ALREADY at a point of EQUALITY, well, they're supremacist organizations. Pure and simple. To ADVANCE from EQUAL means to become SUPERIOR.

In closing, it seems that nearly EVERY post you've made on this thread accuses anyone that disagrees with you of wanting to abolish equality. Frankly, I've not seen it happen except from a few asshats. Why you feel the need to constantly reword what other people say into what you THINK they are saying is not very appropriate in a discussion, love.

Why/how is it that if someone other than a group you fall into says they want "equality", that means they want to take it from you? Is there only a limited amount of equality to go around and for others to have it, it must be taken from others?

I think not.
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I don't understand why people are affraid to register. Of course the gov agencies
are monitoring such websites, but do you really think they're affraid of what
less than 1% of population think? They know that 99% know nothing, and even when
they do know, they don't care. And even when they do care, they do nothing about it.

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I was registered for awhile a few years back.

To tell the truth, I rarely read the site anymore and I comment even less. This just happens to be a topic I feel strongly about.

But there are too many SandiT's on GLP. Their negativity can affect your mood in real life if you're not very careful. They're like attack dogs foaming at the mouth; no matter what is said to them they just attack, attack, attack! Their psychic energy is like wallowing in an open sewer.

Ever run into a guy calling himself Winged Lion? He's a great example of what I'm talking about.

Hateful, dogmatic, unable to engage in adult give and take debate. Foul mouthed. Personally insulting. In complete spiritual darkness.

I avoid people like that like the Black Death in real life. I have better things to do with my time as a rule than serve as a punching bag for people with such obvious psychological problems.

You seem OK though. But what if I told you I'm black? cool2
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Take a look at her post just above yours, half the words are swear words, I never saw anything like it, even from guys.
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Sandi T,

I tried to stay away from this thread but my curiosity got the better of me...You have presented some excellent responses to several here. I admire your tenacity. I agree completely with you.

Boys, (and I mean that)

I don't hate men. Admittedly, there have been some I have disliked, just as there have been women I haven't liked. It has nothing to do with their sexuality and everything to do with preference and just plain personality clashes. You want to blame women for your unhappy lot in life....you are giving women a lot of power by doing that. If you want to change your situation then stop blaming and pointing fingers and start taking responsibility for yourself.

Sandi T is correct. The femminist movement is about equal rights for women and not about men. There are Feminists that take it to the extreme and use it to bash men out of their own hatred. But I see you lumping most women into that category and that is incorrect. There are shallow women who will use you but that doesnt make her a man hater. It makes her shallow. If you don't like how the media portrays you, start objecting to the media. Don't BE what you are objecting to. Stop making women responsible for your lot in life.
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Translation: We women are a bunch of self centered, parasitic cunts. Deal with it men.
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Sandi T,

I tried to stay away from this thread but my curiosity got the better of me...You have presented some excellent responses to several here. I admire your tenacity. I agree completely with you.

Boys, (and I mean that)

I don't hate men. Admittedly, there have been some I have disliked, just as there have been women I haven't liked. It has nothing to do with their sexuality and everything to do with preference and just plain personality clashes. You want to blame women for your unhappy lot in life....you are giving women a lot of power by doing that. If you want to change your situation then stop blaming and pointing fingers and start taking responsibility for yourself.

Sandi T is correct. The femminist movement is about equal rights for women and not about men. There are Feminists that take it to the extreme and use it to bash men out of their own hatred. But I see you lumping most women into that category and that is incorrect. There are shallow women who will use you but that doesnt make her a man hater. It makes her shallow. If you don't like how the media portrays you, start objecting to the media. Don't BE what you are objecting to. Stop making women responsible for your lot in life.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Translation: We women are a bunch of self centered, parasitic cunts. Deal with it men.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9857789


You always say the most profound things! You are just proving what a neanderthal you are. Grow up.
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Sandi T,

I tried to stay away from this thread but my curiosity got the better of me...You have presented some excellent responses to several here. I admire your tenacity. I agree completely with you.

Boys, (and I mean that)

I don't hate men. Admittedly, there have been some I have disliked, just as there have been women I haven't liked. It has nothing to do with their sexuality and everything to do with preference and just plain personality clashes. You want to blame women for your unhappy lot in life....you are giving women a lot of power by doing that. If you want to change your situation then stop blaming and pointing fingers and start taking responsibility for yourself.

Sandi T is correct. The femminist movement is about equal rights for women and not about men. There are Feminists that take it to the extreme and use it to bash men out of their own hatred. But I see you lumping most women into that category and that is incorrect. There are shallow women who will use you but that doesnt make her a man hater. It makes her shallow. If you don't like how the media portrays you, start objecting to the media. Don't BE what you are objecting to. Stop making women responsible for your lot in life.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Translation: We women are a bunch of self centered, parasitic cunts. Deal with it men.
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You always say the most profound things! You are just proving what a neanderthal you are. Grow up.
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Thanks! I love you too, bitch!hf
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Sandi T,

I tried to stay away from this thread but my curiosity got the better of me...You have presented some excellent responses to several here. I admire your tenacity. I agree completely with you.

Boys, (and I mean that)

I don't hate men. Admittedly, there have been some I have disliked, just as there have been women I haven't liked. It has nothing to do with their sexuality and everything to do with preference and just plain personality clashes. You want to blame women for your unhappy lot in life....you are giving women a lot of power by doing that. If you want to change your situation then stop blaming and pointing fingers and start taking responsibility for yourself.

Sandi T is correct. The femminist movement is about equal rights for women and not about men. There are Feminists that take it to the extreme and use it to bash men out of their own hatred. But I see you lumping most women into that category and that is incorrect. There are shallow women who will use you but that doesnt make her a man hater. It makes her shallow. If you don't like how the media portrays you, start objecting to the media. Don't BE what you are objecting to. Stop making women responsible for your lot in life.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Translation: We women are a bunch of self centered, parasitic cunts. Deal with it men.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9857789


You always say the most profound things! You are just proving what a neanderthal you are. Grow up.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Thanks! I love you too, bitch!hf
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pphtt
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But there are too many SandiT's on GLP. Their negativity can affect your mood in real life if you're not very careful. They're like attack dogs foaming at the mouth; no matter what is said to them they just attack, attack, attack! Their psychic energy is like wallowing in an open sewer.

Hateful, dogmatic, unable to engage in adult give and take debate. Foul mouthed. Personally insulting. In complete spiritual darkness.

I avoid people like that like the Black Death in real life. I have better things to do with my time as a rule than serve as a punching bag for people with such obvious psychological problems.

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Take a look at her post just above yours, half the words are swear words, I never saw anything like it, even from guys.


I know. I said it before: she is obviously deranged. It is pointless to talk to her. I stopped reading any of her posts several pages ago. When I see the Horsie avatar I simply skip everything in that block.

People think that you are trying to insult them because this is GLP, and that is what people do here. They insult one another. But I am not insulting this person; I am saying that from where I sit she appears memntally unbalanced.

Then, through her behavior and hateful harangues, she demonstrates to other people the validity of what I say.

I advise you to do as I do and skip the mental and verbal diarhhea she smears on the walls of GLP. Taking to her is a exercise in the purest futility.

I will say this again, gentlemen==it is pointless to debate with Feminists. They are lost. It's like arguing with small children. No matter what is said to them they stick their fingers in their ears and chant LALALALALALA! And all with that insufferably smug attitude that basically tells men they can like the current paradigm or they can lump it..

(NOTE: For a working definition of Smug, see SandiT's co-traveller, Zephyr, and her condescending remarks, all of which are sandwiched between her utterly unconvincing protestations that she doesn't hate men.)

Recognize that Feminists will always use Shaming Language to try to shut you up. They will accuse you of whining; they will accuse you of being 'boys' i.e. children, a popular and especially ironic assertion given the child-like quality of the Feminist worldview), they will say that you are a bitter loser who cannot get sex, otherwise you would never complain about the institutionalized sexism and rampant hatred of women nowadays.

But see, don't let it bother you! Would you be insulted if the residents of an insane asylum took a vote and agreed that they didn't like your shoes?

I believe my very first post on this thread was to advise men to simply start ignoring these hatemongers. Let 'em say whatever nonsense it is they're saying this week.

Let's focus our energies on helping more sensible women wake up to the truth of what is going on. They do exist; a couple of them have posted here.

Misandry is a lot like the fish in water analogy; it is so all=pervasive that many women do not notice it until it is pointed out to them.

We need the reasonable women on our side if we are to heal the rift between the sexes. These screaming feminist banshees are beyond hope.

So let us abandon them to their own devices.
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You always say the most profound things! You are just proving what a neanderthal you are. Grow up.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Here is a great example of what I am talking about.

Name calling and infantile one-upmanship.

This is the nonsense you hear from children when they are about 12.

Why waste time on anyone so incapable of an adult conversation?

Don't even waste your time, fellas. Leave her to her sense of superiority and move on.
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You always say the most profound things! You are just proving what a neanderthal you are. Grow up.
 Quoting: Zephyr2


Here is a great example of what I am talking about.

Name calling and infantile one-upmanship.

This is the nonsense you hear from children when they are about 12.

Why waste time on anyone so incapable of an adult conversation?

Don't even waste your time, fellas. Leave her to her sense of superiority and move on.
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Ummmmm...excuse me but this neanderthal is constantly posting "Cunts, bitches, die bitches...etc." I would say he is doing some major name calling. You guys are so blinded by your own agenda you can't see the forest for the trees. Most of you look like complete imbeciles.
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Feminism was about getting equal rights FOR WOMEN.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sandi,

See, here you nailed it and probably don't realize it. "Was" is the key word here.

Yes, the feminist movement was once a noble and worthwhile undertaking.

However, it's time has passed. Just like EVERY "equal rights" movement for "minorities" (clarification: "Minorities" is defined as "not a white male under the age of 65" by most everyone these days).

Blacks have equal rights now, have for many years. Women have equal rights now, have for many years.

ANY "support groups" that stand for the "advancement" of a race, gender or creed that is ALREADY at a point of EQUALITY, well, they're supremacist organizations. Pure and simple. To ADVANCE from EQUAL means to become SUPERIOR.

In closing, it seems that nearly EVERY post you've made on this thread accuses anyone that disagrees with you of wanting to abolish equality. Frankly, I've not seen it happen except from a few asshats. Why you feel the need to constantly reword what other people say into what you THINK they are saying is not very appropriate in a discussion, love.

Why/how is it that if someone other than a group you fall into says they want "equality", that means they want to take it from you? Is there only a limited amount of equality to go around and for others to have it, it must be taken from others?

I think not.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


Spot on.

Where are the Civil Rights marchers today? Where are the Union marchers today? Where are the Abolitionists today?

Those groups have all disappeared. And why?

Because once their aims were realized they melted back into the population. No need to continue to advocate for change once those changes had been made.

So the question is: when will Feminists melt back into the general population the way the Civil Rights advocates have?

At what point will they say, OK, we've accomplished our goals?

There may be a handful of women alive today who were still suckling the teat back when women got the vote. But for 99 and 9/10% of women today, you have never even lived under the Oppression you insist womyn were subjected to. NEVER.

So what are their goals? They claim it's about equality, but you cannot name a single area of life where womyn have not been granted entry.

Yet they still rant against the Patriarchy!

Sir P is correct: Feminism is a supremacist movement.
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Feminism was about getting equal rights FOR WOMEN.
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Sandi,

See, here you nailed it and probably don't realize it. "Was" is the key word here.

Yes, the feminist movement was once a noble and worthwhile undertaking.

However, it's time has passed. Just like EVERY "equal rights" movement for "minorities" (clarification: "Minorities" is defined as "not a white male under the age of 65" by most everyone these days).

Blacks have equal rights now, have for many years. Women have equal rights now, have for many years.

ANY "support groups" that stand for the "advancement" of a race, gender or creed that is ALREADY at a point of EQUALITY, well, they're supremacist organizations. Pure and simple. To ADVANCE from EQUAL means to become SUPERIOR.

In closing, it seems that nearly EVERY post you've made on this thread accuses anyone that disagrees with you of wanting to abolish equality. Frankly, I've not seen it happen except from a few asshats. Why you feel the need to constantly reword what other people say into what you THINK they are saying is not very appropriate in a discussion, love.

Why/how is it that if someone other than a group you fall into says they want "equality", that means they want to take it from you? Is there only a limited amount of equality to go around and for others to have it, it must be taken from others?

I think not.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


OMG I couldn't go to sleep someone is wrong on the internet and that is Sir P.

Are you talking about the Notion of Equal Rights under law or actual equal rights?

Women have notional equal rights but they isn't the real facts.

Let's look at disparity in wages.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

From my experience having employed many people over the years women are far better workers than men, yet they are generally paid less for the same job with better outcomes.

This has to be discriminatory.

So even though you men want feminism to go away... It still has much more to achieve.

You'd better learn the difference between notional equality and true equality.

As for Sandi swearing... So she is so frustrated by the stupidity of the arguments men are putting forward that she swears. Is that only acceptable for males to do?

BIG DEAL!
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Feminism was about getting equal rights FOR WOMEN.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sandi,

See, here you nailed it and probably don't realize it. "Was" is the key word here.

Yes, the feminist movement was once a noble and worthwhile undertaking.

However, it's time has passed. Just like EVERY "equal rights" movement for "minorities" (clarification: "Minorities" is defined as "not a white male under the age of 65" by most everyone these days).

Blacks have equal rights now, have for many years. Women have equal rights now, have for many years.
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I stated 'was' because we have nearly achieved equal rights. But you are being dishonest in saying that we have fully achieved it. We certainly have not.

The same for black people.

There are areas in which prejudice has a powerful hold still, for all of the groups mentioned, and others as well.

That you claim otherwise is proof that we still are not treated equally (and notice that I use the word equal, not the words THE SAME). People can be equal without being the same.

ANY "support groups" that stand for the "advancement" of a race, gender or creed that is ALREADY at a point of EQUALITY, well, they're supremacist organizations. Pure and simple. To ADVANCE from EQUAL means to become SUPERIOR.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


So, since white men are still at the top of the food chain over-all, we should all just stop advocating for them in the areas where they aren't? Because once they have their rights in every single area, they will be even more superior to every other group.

Some women make more money now, but the average woman of middle or lower class, if not married, tends to have to work multiple jobs and still barely manages to make ends meet. I see it all the time... whereas guys in the same situations tend to do fine with one job and ridicule the women who can't or carry on about how it's their own fault.

In closing, it seems that nearly EVERY post you've made on this thread accuses anyone that disagrees with you of wanting to abolish equality. Frankly, I've not seen it happen except from a few asshats. Why you feel the need to constantly reword what other people say into what you THINK they are saying is not very appropriate in a discussion, love.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


That's because in nearly every man's post in here, they are trying to directly connect feminism--seeking EQUAL RIGHTS FOR WOMEN--with man hating.

When they cease to claim that feminazism is synonymous entirely with the struggle for equal rights, then I will cease to point out what they are doing.

Even you sit here denying that women still struggle and you equate the feminazis with all feminists.

If you argued alone that there are women (fembos, feminazis, whatever you want to call them) that are strongly advocating for the oppression of men, then you'd have me on your side in a heartbeat. But you do not, rather you argue that the feminist movement--including anyone who continues to advocate for the rights of women--are all trying to oppress men.

But many women are quietly trying to correct a lot of these wrongs, even while we fight for our own rights.

You know well, I believe, my view of adoption. What you may not know is that even now I fight hard against these laws in nearly every state that make it simple for a woman to give away a man's child without his consent. This issue is one in which ALL of us have no rights. The child has no rights, the woman relinquishing isn't protected, and the man isn't protected.

But in large part, this is an area in which the vast majority of men just simply don't give a shit. The people most aggressively pursuing RIGHTS in the area of adoption are adoptees, THE MAJORITY WOMEN. We, together, fight hard for equal rights. Rights for adoptees, rights for so-called 'birth' mothers, AND rights for so-called 'birth' fathers.

There are many areas in which all of us have had our rights stolen by the government. There is still tremendous prejudice in the average workplace against women. The funny thing is that all of these studies that show so much progress for women are done in high end workplaces, not typical ones. Upper middle class, not lower middle and poverty level classes. That's on purpose, because there's little traction in the lower classes for women.

Why/how is it that if someone other than a group you fall into says they want "equality", that means they want to take it from you? Is there only a limited amount of equality to go around and for others to have it, it must be taken from others?

I think not.
 Quoting: Sir Phydeau


Because THESE GUYS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY DO.

They state that they don't, but then they carry on about how men and women are not the same, how women are stupid (and they try to cite studies they claim 'prove' it), how women are weak... and make it very clear that not only aren't they equal to men, but that if they didn't have rights, "man hate" wouldn't exist anymore... and it is this 'man hate' that makes nations fall apart.

OP finally admitted as much quite openly. The others have admitted it less directly, but just as certainly. Women, the assert, do not DESERVE rights, because we aren't men and aren't like men.

They want to dehumanize us, in order to blame women for their troubles.

But even in the court cases I've mentioned, it's usually MEN who make these decisions. It's usually MEN who legislate against men.

Because of GREED and IMPERIAL CAPITALISM.

The worst perpetrators of these anti-human laws are corporations and church corporations... If you want to find the ones who made the laws that make it so easy to steal babies from women without the father even knowing, look no further than the MONEY.

In court cases where men aren't awarded custody without the judge even bothering to look fairly at it, it is MALE judges. But still, the fault of women for having fought for rights, in the minds of these idiot assholes on this thread.



Guys like these do nothing to help the cause of men. Because they are NOT discussing how to help the cause of men. They only want to talk about how dreadful feminism is. When called on it, then they pretend that they really only meant extremist feminism. But then you point out that the OP and many of the others strongly claim that the fight for equal rights for women destroys nations... and they realize they're backed into a corner and finally admit the truth, just as OP has done.

Now you tell me how screaming that women getting equal rights (when they're actually not equal, but instead stupid and weak according to teschen and the OP and 363) is the BEGINNING OF THE END for any nation... is NOT saying that they want to reverse it??

You are being dishonest, and so are they.

YOU might be here to discuss inequality for men. They are only here to discuss how women have ruined everything by fighting for the same rights as men.

Standard "it's all women's fault" bullshit all over this thread, and these woman-hating pricks flock to it like flies to the same old shit.

Where's all their discussion about these inequalities? Nowhere. Too busy trying to "make the point" about how women should never have been given equal rights because it only ever leads to 'man hate' and 'destruction of the nation'.

Why on Earth you are throwing your lot in with them when they have nearly all agreed that FEMINISM DESTROYS NATIONS, AS SOON AS IT IS BEGUN, not only if it is taken too far... I have no idea.

But you carry right on. On the up side, I won't be giving up on trying to help get the basic human right to make the choice about your children for EVERYONE. I will continue to advocate for the right of children to be with the BEST parent--man or woman.


And I will continue to call men, men. I will continue to call women, women. I will not fall into the dehumanizing 'male/female' trap. I will still stand up for oppressed men who were bamboozled into signing contracts that stripped them of their parental rights.

In spite of the FACT that the most vocal of the men in this thread would do anything they could to strip my rights from me because I am "weak and stupid" only by virtue of a vagina instead of a penis.

It is NOT the assertion of the OP or his supporters that feminism has been taken too far by disgusting, vile, hate-filled radicals. That is MY position, not theirs.

Their position is that when women try to get EQUAL RIGHTS for themselves, from the very beginning, THAT is the destroyer of nations. Women should be kept from EVER trying to get their rights in the first place. That is the assertion of the VERY FIRST POST, and OP can't deny it outright because it's the truth.

So try, try again. You are lying when you say they don't wish they could take them away. They do wish so. They wish we'd never gotten them so that their 'nation' would be 'safe' from the horrible, evil women's rights.

Huzzah.
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But there are too many SandiT's on GLP. Their negativity can affect your mood in real life if you're not very careful. They're like attack dogs foaming at the mouth; no matter what is said to them they just attack, attack, attack! Their psychic energy is like wallowing in an open sewer.

Hateful, dogmatic, unable to engage in adult give and take debate. Foul mouthed. Personally insulting. In complete spiritual darkness.

I avoid people like that like the Black Death in real life. I have better things to do with my time as a rule than serve as a punching bag for people with such obvious psychological problems.

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Take a look at her post just above yours, half the words are swear words, I never saw anything like it, even from guys.
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I know. I said it before: she is obviously deranged. It is pointless to talk to her. I stopped reading any of her posts several pages ago. When I see the Horsie avatar I simply skip everything in that block.

People think that you are trying to insult them because this is GLP, and that is what people do here. They insult one another. But I am not insulting this person; I am saying that from where I sit she appears memntally unbalanced.

Then, through her behavior and hateful harangues, she demonstrates to other people the validity of what I say.

I advise you to do as I do and skip the mental and verbal diarhhea she smears on the walls of GLP. Taking to her is a exercise in the purest futility.

I will say this again, gentlemen==it is pointless to debate with Feminists. They are lost. It's like arguing with small children. No matter what is said to them they stick their fingers in their ears and chant LALALALALALA! And all with that insufferably smug attitude that basically tells men they can like the current paradigm or they can lump it..

(NOTE: For a working definition of Smug, see SandiT's co-traveller, Zephyr, and her condescending remarks, all of which are sandwiched between her utterly unconvincing protestations that she doesn't hate men.)

Recognize that Feminists will always use Shaming Language to try to shut you up. They will accuse you of whining; they will accuse you of being 'boys' i.e. children, a popular and especially ironic assertion given the child-like quality of the Feminist worldview), they will say that you are a bitter loser who cannot get sex, otherwise you would never complain about the institutionalized sexism and rampant hatred of women nowadays.

But see, don't let it bother you! Would you be insulted if the residents of an insane asylum took a vote and agreed that they didn't like your shoes?

I believe my very first post on this thread was to advise men to simply start ignoring these hatemongers. Let 'em say whatever nonsense it is they're saying this week.

Let's focus our energies on helping more sensible women wake up to the truth of what is going on. They do exist; a couple of them have posted here.

Misandry is a lot like the fish in water analogy; it is so all=pervasive that many women do not notice it until it is pointed out to them.

We need the reasonable women on our side if we are to heal the rift between the sexes. These screaming feminist banshees are beyond hope.

So let us abandon them to their own devices.


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Bravo Sivaro, I see you've finally learned to recognize a hopeless case. Saves a lot of time.
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To some other posters talking about government. Govern-ment is from greek, it means control-mind
-> Mind Control. In that sense, TV, movies, press etc is much more a government than the
politicans will ever be. Those who run these are responsible for feminism. By feminism I mean
not the right to study and work, but the right to spit men in the face and laugh.

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So no direct answers.


As a women, You have a son,... a handsome and intelligent young man.

Would you or would you not want him to marry a feminist?

You KNOW you would not, and therein lies the fallacy in your arguments.Most of the women in this thread simply ignore Misandry, but would never want their Sons to Marry a Feminist.

This is proof that women can be irrational. I would suggest women take a good long hard look at what they have become.
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I would suggest you take a long hard look at what you have become.
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I stated 'was' because we have nearly achieved equal rights. But you are being dishonest in saying that we have fully achieved it. We certainly have not.

The same for black people.

There are areas in which prejudice has a powerful hold still, for all of the groups mentioned, and others as well.

That you claim otherwise is proof that we still are not treated equally (and notice that I use the word equal, not the words THE SAME). People can be equal without being the same.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Wait wait ... hold up a second ... did you dare to just tell me "Since you don't agree with me, you're proof that we're not treated equally"?

Jesus, you're on a tirade, dear ... I'm afraid that even a FRIEND will be seen as your enemy on this topic.

Yes, I call bullshit. Please define the areas where women are still oppressed by the big, bad, evil white men. ANY example you provide (other than you bringing up the fact that some ass-backward extremists like certain muslim groups do, indeed oppress women.

If you insist that we men need to tolerate the "Men are stupid and women are superior" bullshit we see EVERY day until such time as there is not a single oppressed woman on the face of the entire planet ... well, if that's the case, then you're being absolutely unreasonable.

So, since white men are still at the top of the food chain over-all, we should all just stop advocating for them in the areas where they aren't? Because once they have their rights in every single area, they will be even more superior to every other group.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I'm afraid that even after 10 solid minutes of re-reading this bit over and over, I can't figure out what you're saying for certain. To me, it sounds like here you're saying: "So, since white men aren't knocked down a few pegs I'll keep screaming "EQUALITY!!!", At least until such time as women are superior."

Fuck superiority. For ANYONE.

Some women make more money now, but the average woman of middle or lower class, if not married, tends to have to work multiple jobs and still barely manages to make ends meet. I see it all the time... whereas guys in the same situations tend to do fine with one job and ridicule the women who can't or carry on about how it's their own fault.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


This is complete and utter bullshit. Read the statistics. I worked 3 jobs so that I could raise my own two biological children as well as a 3rd girl that was not my biological product. I never collected a single dime of child support from my ex. Despite over 2 years of going to the Atty Gen's office once a month. Only to be told that "Your case has been closed due to us not being able to find the mother."

Funny, we worked across the hall from the AG's office. I was my ex's boss and handed them her employee file, home address, telephone number and even offered to walk them across the hall and introduce them to her. Ironic that at the EXACT same job, they found me JUST fine. Managed to take 50% of EVERY dime I've earned for over 15 years now.

But hey, that's ok, right? SOME women make less than SOME men. Until such time as EVERY woman earns more for doing the exact same job ... then my ass is free game to the system, right?

I currently earn $6.50 an hour. Not even minimum wage. Wanna know what my last check was after taxes and the AG's pound of flesh? For 2 weeks, 50 hours each week, I netted a whopping $317.


That's because in nearly every man's post in here, they are trying to directly connect feminism--seeking EQUAL RIGHTS FOR WOMEN--with man hating.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I, indeed equate "feminism" with "man-hating cunts". Why? Because about the ONLY women that scream "FEMINISM!!!" are the absolute worst examples of the women on this planet.

You'll stop being offended if you'd stop editing people's words in your own mind and replacing every instance of "feminism" in their posts to read "equal rights".

This is YOUR problem, not any one else's. Sorry, but these are the facts, love. You're going into a full on tantrum at ANYONE that dares post "I don't like how the world is at the moment."

When they cease to claim that feminazism is synonymous entirely with the struggle for equal rights, then I will cease to point out what they are doing.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sorry, then you need to talk to your "sisters" about the image the portray. Afterall, this is an OPINION. An opinion based on the factual examples many of us men are force fed daily.

Even you sit here denying that women still struggle and you equate the feminazis with all feminists.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


So? So I choose to equate word "feminism" with "man-hating, ball-busting, butt-ugly honorary man wannabe". It's my right to do so, just like it's minority's right to re-define "racist" as "ANYTHING I DON'T LIKE COMMITTED BY A WHITE PERSON."

You sit here denying that men have to tolerate any bias, or bullshit. You sit here denying that women have made any advancement at all. You make it sound like this is still exactly like it was in the 40s. Sorry your life is that hard. Perhaps you should relocate to a new area where it's not like Saudi Arabia.

If you argued alone that there are women (fembos, feminazis, whatever you want to call them) that are strongly advocating for the oppression of men, then you'd have me on your side in a heartbeat. But you do not, rather you argue that the feminist movement--including anyone who continues to advocate for the rights of women--are all trying to oppress men.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


No ma'am. Please show me a direct quote where I've said this. Again, you're reading what you think I'm saying and not what I'm saying at all.

But many women are quietly trying to correct a lot of these wrongs, even while we fight for our own rights.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I seriously doubt any of these supposed "noble women fighting for the real equality of all" allow themselves to be labeled "a feminist". While I'm sure there's a FEW. I guarantee you, it is merely a handful. Frankly, I could give two shits. I can fight my own battle. I can do so without the need to put my hostile shit right in everyone's face like a 4 year old with a stubbed toe.

You know well, I believe, my view of adoption. What you may not know is that even now I fight hard against these laws in nearly every state that make it simple for a woman to give away a man's child without his consent. This issue is one in which ALL of us have no rights. The child has no rights, the woman relinquishing isn't protected, and the man isn't protected.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Yes, I'm familiar. And that's great! I mean that with all the sincerity I can muster. It still doesn't change the fact that I DESPISE the word "feminism". It doesn't change the fact that it's my RIGHT to despise that word.

But in large part, this is an area in which the vast majority of men just simply don't give a shit. The people most aggressively pursuing RIGHTS in the area of adoption are adoptees, THE MAJORITY WOMEN. We, together, fight hard for equal rights. Rights for adoptees, rights for so-called 'birth' mothers, AND rights for so-called 'birth' fathers.

There are many areas in which all of us have had our rights stolen by the government. There is still tremendous prejudice in the average workplace against women. The funny thing is that all of these studies that show so much progress for women are done in high end workplaces, not typical ones. Upper middle class, not lower middle and poverty level classes. That's on purpose, because there's little traction in the lower classes for women.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Nearly EVERY boss I've ever had was female. I believe you are mistaken here. The women make the same minimum wage I make. (Hell, I don't even earn minimum wage, while two of my female co-workers earn $7.25 an hour doing the exact same job.


Because THESE GUYS HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY DO.

They state that they don't, but then they carry on about how men and women are not the same, how women are stupid (and they try to cite studies they claim 'prove' it), how women are weak... and make it very clear that not only aren't they equal to men, but that if they didn't have rights, "man hate" wouldn't exist anymore... and it is this 'man hate' that makes nations fall apart.

OP finally admitted as much quite openly. The others have admitted it less directly, but just as certainly. Women, the assert, do not DESERVE rights, because we aren't men and aren't like men.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I've not seen a single person say, "Women need to be oppressed and deserve no rights at all." Not once. But I've seen you reply as if they had nearly EVERY time. You're even starting to spin in that direction with ME.

They want to dehumanize us, in order to blame women for their troubles.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I've not seen this stated by anyone other than yourself (at least not from anyone that's actually participating in the discussion. I'm discounting the trolls.)

But even in the court cases I've mentioned, it's usually MEN who make these decisions. It's usually MEN who legislate against men.

Because of GREED and IMPERIAL CAPITALISM.

The worst perpetrators of these anti-human laws are corporations and church corporations... If you want to find the ones who made the laws that make it so easy to steal babies from women without the father even knowing, look no further than the MONEY.

In court cases where men aren't awarded custody without the judge even bothering to look fairly at it, it is MALE judges. But still, the fault of women for having fought for rights, in the minds of these idiot assholes on this thread.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I agree with this whole bit until you hit the end. By women TAKING ADVANTAGE of this system ... they are condoning it. It's really that simple. It's the EXACT SAME LOGIC you're using, Angel.

Guys like these do nothing to help the cause of men. Because they are NOT discussing how to help the cause of men. They only want to talk about how dreadful feminism is. When called on it, then they pretend that they really only meant extremist feminism. But then you point out that the OP and many of the others strongly claim that the fight for equal rights for women destroys nations... and they realize they're backed into a corner and finally admit the truth, just as OP has done.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


White nationalists have to deal with the same thing. Any time a white person states, "This has gone too far, this needs to stop!" ... they're called "White Supremacists". I fail to see your point. It seems to me that you're more concerned with people's personal views on the word "feminist" than anything else.

Now you tell me how screaming that women getting equal rights (when they're actually not equal, but instead stupid and weak according to teschen and the OP and 363) is the BEGINNING OF THE END for any nation... is NOT saying that they want to reverse it??
 Quoting: Sandi_T


I finally can see the point you're driving at. Perhaps it's time for you to consider other people's points as well.

You are being dishonest, and so are they.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


The fuck I am!

YOU might be here to discuss inequality for men. They are only here to discuss how women have ruined everything by fighting for the same rights as men.

Standard "it's all women's fault" bullshit all over this thread, and these woman-hating pricks flock to it like flies to the same old shit.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Actually, I'm on this thread because I enjoy seeing alternate views on polarized subjects. It's the only way my poor, inept, testosterone ridden, sub-human male brain can process other views.

Where's all their discussion about these inequalities? Nowhere. Too busy trying to "make the point" about how women should never have been given equal rights because it only ever leads to 'man hate' and 'destruction of the nation'.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


You think it's possible that you're not seeing much of it because the posters are spending their time defending themselves from your venomous anger than being allowed to discuss it? Just a thought.

Why on Earth you are throwing your lot in with them when they have nearly all agreed that FEMINISM DESTROYS NATIONS, AS SOON AS IT IS BEGUN, not only if it is taken too far... I have no idea.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Just because I'm not agreeing with you 100% does not mean I agree with your detractors. There ARE other choices than "if you're not with me, you're against me.".

But you carry right on. On the up side, I won't be giving up on trying to help get the basic human right to make the choice about your children for EVERYONE. I will continue to advocate for the right of children to be with the BEST parent--man or woman.
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I "carry right on" doing what, exactly? Having a discussion with YOU in an attempt to clarify yours, mine and other's positions as I'm interpreting them? That's what *I* feel *I'm* doing.

And I will continue to call men, men. I will continue to call women, women. I will not fall into the dehumanizing 'male/female' trap. I will still stand up for oppressed men who were bamboozled into signing contracts that stripped them of their parental rights.

In spite of the FACT that the most vocal of the men in this thread would do anything they could to strip my rights from me because I am "weak and stupid" only by virtue of a vagina instead of a penis.
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The most vocal of the feminist movement are FAR worse than the posts I've seen in this thread.

It is NOT the assertion of the OP or his supporters that feminism has been taken too far by disgusting, vile, hate-filled radicals. That is MY position, not theirs.

Their position is that when women try to get EQUAL RIGHTS for themselves, from the very beginning, THAT is the destroyer of nations. Women should be kept from EVER trying to get their rights in the first place. That is the assertion of the VERY FIRST POST, and OP can't deny it outright because it's the truth.

So try, try again. You are lying when you say they don't wish they could take them away. They do wish so. They wish we'd never gotten them so that their 'nation' would be 'safe' from the horrible, evil women's rights.

Huzzah.
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I personally couldn't give two shits what "they" think. I'm here enjoying a discussion with a friend on a topic that I feel QUITE strongly about.
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This thread ended so predictably.

Feminist came on board, turned the argument into Misogyny, missing the point entirely.

And demonized men all at the same time.


Thread kill, The FemiNazis have sung

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This thread ended so predictably.

Feminist came on board, turned the argument into Misogyny, missing the point entirely.

And demonized men all at the same time.


Thread kill, The FemiNazis have sung

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I'd say it got stampeded by a herd of horses.
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Where's all their discussion about these inequalities? Nowhere. Too busy trying to "make the point" about how women should never have been given equal rights because it only ever leads to 'man hate' and 'destruction of the nation'.
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You think it's possible that you're not seeing much of it because the posters are spending their time defending themselves from your venomous anger than being allowed to discuss it? Just a thought.


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DING DING DING!!! The mystifying link between Feminism and [Misandry is, at long last, revealed!

No discussion can take place as long as any attempt to discuss it is met with gales of hateful accusations and the kind of character assassination one normally associates with The Ministry of Truth in.
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Reached any conclusion yet? cruise
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This thread ended so predictably.

Feminist came on board, turned the argument into Misogyny, missing the point entirely.

And demonized men all at the same time.


Thread kill, The FemiNazis have sung

fatlady
 Quoting: Sivaro


Actually, this thread should have been most instructive for men.

It is high time for men to recognize that Feminists must be barred from the conversation entirely. We must cease acknowledging them by word, thought, or deed. It is a waste of energy to debate with a sexist and a zealot. The only productive reply is total silence.

It is far past time to refuse to have any conversation with them at all. Men must reach a point where they can no longer be baited into defending themselves against the accusations of sexists who, by their very definition, are incapable of being fair minded or open to a modification of their views. You can't convince someone of the morality of your position unless that person is actually interested in getting at the Truth, as opposed to BEING RIGHT at any cost to justice and logic.

Who are these women to tell you what the quality of your life's experience has been? Who are they to wag their fingers and tell you that you must agree with them and their opinions or you are a smelly, woman-hating Beast! The arrogance is just mind blowing.


Men must simply rise above them. You cannot fight with an enemy who simply laughs and ignores you. There is nothing to be gained by trafficking with sexist filth. This will require self discipline and focus, two qualities which men excel at provided they can be made to understand the purpose in what they do. Men must let go of their need to be right and focus on SOLUTIONS, i.e. ending the sexist-fueled Gender Wars by making common cause with decent, reasonable women.

If there is ever to be any progress men must seize the moral high ground. This is not a matter to be argued into existence; men have got to take the moral high ground by actually being ethically superior.

What does that mean? No more profanity. No more name calling. No more leveling accusations against women as a class. Bear in mind that there are also men who self-identify as Feminists. While they must be dismissed from our consciousness along with their sexist female counterparts, it is important to realize that feminism is a disease of the mind and spirit that gender has no bearing upon.

We need reasonable women to recognize the rightness of what we say. That cannot happen as long as men give way to their baser nature and allow themselves to become childishly out of control with regard to their emotions.

This is the tactic of the sexists who oppose real equality, and men must avoid it entirely so that reasonable women can immediately see for themselves the unfair nature of these blanket attacks and character assassination by all-out nuclear attack.

also, men must do more to create a visible, undeniable divide between themselves and the misogynists who also make upa percentage of our population. Nut jobs, cranks and trolls of every race, gender and creed will be with us always, but unless men find a way to distance themselves from these nut jobs the sexists will continue to use the existence of the statistically small number of genuine misogynists as a wedge to keep decent women alienated from men who desire social justice and an end to the Feminst war, frequently mis-named as The War Between The sexes.

To recap, gentlemen: Begin to practice the aloof self control that will allow you to simply ignore the ranting screeds and unfair character assassinations of Feminists.

Become better human beings by refraining from profanity, from coarseness, from visible anger.

Focus our efforts on healing the gap between decent men and decent women by focusing on them rather than wasting one more millisecond on arguing with fools and sexists.

I welcome your input, gentlemen[/].
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This thread ended so predictably.

Feminist came on board, turned the argument into Misogyny, missing the point entirely.

And demonized men all at the same time.


Thread kill, The FemiNazis have sung

fatlady
 Quoting: Sivaro


Actually, this thread should have been most instructive for men.

It is high time for men to recognize that Feminists must be barred from the conversation entirely. We must cease acknowledging them by word, thought, or deed. It is a waste of energy to debate with a sexist and a zealot. The only productive reply is total silence.

It is far past time to refuse to have any conversation with them at all. Men must reach a point where they can no longer be baited into defending themselves against the accusations of sexists who, by their very definition, are incapable of being fair minded or open to a modification of their views. You can't convince someone of the morality of your position unless that person is actually interested in getting at the Truth, as opposed to BEING RIGHT at any cost to justice and logic.

Who are these women to tell you what the quality of your life's experience has been? Who are they to wag their fingers and tell you that you must agree with them and their opinions or you are a smelly, woman-hating Beast! The arrogance is just mind blowing.


Men must simply rise above them. You cannot fight with an enemy who simply laughs and ignores you. There is nothing to be gained by trafficking with sexist filth. This will require self discipline and focus, two qualities which men excel at provided they can be made to understand the purpose in what they do. Men must let go of their need to be right and focus on SOLUTIONS, i.e. ending the sexist-fueled Gender Wars by making common cause with decent, reasonable women.

If there is ever to be any progress men must seize the moral high ground. This is not a matter to be argued into existence; men have got to take the moral high ground by actually being ethically superior.

What does that mean? No more profanity. No more name calling. No more leveling accusations against women as a class. Bear in mind that there are also men who self-identify as Feminists. While they must be dismissed from our consciousness along with their sexist female counterparts, it is important to realize that feminism is a disease of the mind and spirit that gender has no bearing upon.

We need reasonable women to recognize the rightness of what we say. That cannot happen as long as men give way to their baser nature and allow themselves to become childishly out of control with regard to their emotions.

This is the tactic of the sexists who oppose real equality, and men must avoid it entirely so that reasonable women can immediately see for themselves the unfair nature of these blanket attacks and character assassination by all-out nuclear attack.

also, men must do more to create a visible, undeniable divide between themselves and the misogynists who also make upa percentage of our population. Nut jobs, cranks and trolls of every race, gender and creed will be with us always, but unless men find a way to distance themselves from these nut jobs the sexists will continue to use the existence of the statistically small number of genuine misogynists as a wedge to keep decent women alienated from men who desire social justice and an end to the Feminst war, frequently mis-named as The War Between The sexes.

To recap, gentlemen: Begin to practice the aloof self control that will allow you to simply ignore the ranting screeds and unfair character assassinations of Feminists.

Become better human beings by refraining from profanity, from coarseness, from visible anger.

Focus our efforts on healing the gap between decent men and decent women by focusing on them rather than wasting one more millisecond on arguing with fools and sexists.

I welcome your input, gentlemen[/].
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Another fantastic post.

There is not much input I can add to it. It is well said and well thought out.

All I can do is say thanks for the wisdom.
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Actually, this thread should have been most instructive for men.

It is high time for men to recognize that Feminists must be barred from the conversation entirely. We must cease acknowledging them by word, thought, or deed. It is a waste of energy to debate with a sexist and a zealot. The only productive reply is total silence.

It is far past time to refuse to have any conversation with them at all. Men must reach a point where they can no longer be baited into defending themselves against the accusations of sexists who, by their very definition, are incapable of being fair minded or open to a modification of their views. You can't convince someone of the morality of your position unless that person is actually interested in getting at the Truth, as opposed to BEING RIGHT at any cost to justice and logic.




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So, what I am hearing is that I don't have any intelligent input in any conversation at all and should be ignored? I have simply answered questions that were put out there for a woman to answer. I gave my honest opinion. I also listened to the man's point of view.
I recall some men asking the women to help get the word out. Hmmm, are we to keep silent, or help defend men?
I still don't get where feminism has anything to do with the topic of why men don't exist.
All I have seen as well as the women is the men belittling the women and telling them where their place is. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Another fantastic post.

There is not much input I can add to it. It is well said and well thought out.

All I can do is say thanks for the wisdom.


Thank you.

I have decided to start a new thread on this subject with an explicit disclaimer that hostile feminists are not welcome to comment.

Interested parties may join me here:

Thread: End Misandry Now! A Thread For Men
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This thread ended so predictably.

Feminist came on board, turned the argument into Misogyny, missing the point entirely.

And demonized men all at the same time.


Thread kill, The FemiNazis have sung

fatlady
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This is an example of what...pwned?

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