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Misandry -Why Men Don't Exist

 
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman and having something or someone else to blame it on.

I do think roles have changed in this world, but woman have been forced into being the bread-maker as well as the man. Not that I agree with it, but they have to do what they have to do in order to care for the children since the men like to get them pregnant, screw around, and leave them alone to raise them.

Not all woman should be put into a certain class either, just as men should not be. We are not all alike.

OP you sound like you would be better off not ever getting involved with woman. Glad you learned your lesson early. They might be better off without you
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman and having something or someone else to blame it on.

I do think roles have changed in this world, but woman have been forced into being the bread-maker as well as the man. Not that I agree with it, but they have to do what they have to do in order to care for the children since the men like to get them pregnant, screw around, and leave them alone to raise them.

Not all woman should be put into a certain class either, just as men should not be. We are not all alike.

OP you sound like you would be better off not ever getting involved with woman. Glad you learned your lesson early. They might be better off without you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8361466


LOL

Of course women would be better off alone. Tis best if women simply stop raising children and being a partner to a man whom they cant trust.

Good for you, you have missed the point entirely.

I just hope the man you take advantage of and abuse for your selfish needs and financial gain, can somehow carry on without you sucking his life out, and using his children as a weapon. Lord willing, the man that walks away from you will hopefully get a chance to find a good women and raise a real family.


Of course, you could ask yourself ... why have men changed? Could it possibly have something to do with the unreal expectations women have?

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Of course, Feminism is a well known destroyer of Nations







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Excellent thread, OP. The double standard is amazing.

UK tv shows and commercials are even worse for their non-stop portrayal of men. Almost every UK tv commercial shows men as idiots, bumbling and effeminate.

The woman is always shown as smart, hip and all knowing.

The man (always a white man) is shown in the worst light possible.

And their fetish for dressing men in womens clothes is really astounding, but it all plays into this topic.
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Far better than a misery filled, financial time bomb that marriage has become.

What the hell do you expect men to do? Might as well check out, they dont count anyway.

This thread is not meant to denigrate women, but help men understand what happened. And why. And how and why it was wrong. They have been dehumanized. It is plain as day to all who can see.
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You have to be a naive fuckin sucker to sign that contract of financial ruin. I'm not very well versed on it but even the bible says somewhere it's better for a man to live alone in the wilderness than marry one of these types.
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman
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That has nothing to do with what the video showed.

466 is the type that refuse to look at the evidence presented and reconsider her attitude.

She would rather consider herself right no matter what the situation is. A sign of immaturity, and the the social conditioning has worked completely on her.

There is no turning back for her.
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman
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That has nothing to do with what the video showed.

466 is the type that refuse to look at the evidence presented and reconsider her attitude.

She would rather consider herself right no matter what the situation is. A sign of immaturity, and the the social conditioning has worked completely on her.

There is no turning back for her.
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Bingo:

Brought the thread right back were it should be. thanks
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman and having something or someone else to blame it on.
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I don't think so. I'm sure some of it is that, but there are a lot of frustrated men. It is very easy for most guys to find a woman these days, just not one worth keeping. If you go through enough of those looking for a good one, you'll soon lose respect for the lot of them. I think its inevitable. And unless someone comes along that changes your mind, your mind won't change. Men that have been raised by strong women don't want to date some useless, bitchy thing. That's the problem, our mothers' generation were good women. Things have changed a lot since then.
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman and having something or someone else to blame it on.

I do think roles have changed in this world, but woman have been forced into being the bread-maker as well as the man. Not that I agree with it, but they have to do what they have to do in order to care for the children since the men like to get them pregnant, screw around, and leave them alone to raise them.

Not all woman should be put into a certain class either, just as men should not be. We are not all alike.

OP you sound like you would be better off not ever getting involved with woman. Glad you learned your lesson early. They might be better off without you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8361466


LOL

Of course women would be better off alone. Tis best if women simply stop raising children and being a partner to a man whom they cant trust.

Good for you, you got the point.

I just hope the man you take advantage of and abuse for your selfish needs and financial gain, can somehow carry on without you sucking his life out, and using his children as a weapon. Lord willing, the man that walks away from you will hopefully get a chance to find a good women and raise a real family.


Of course, you could ask yourself ... why have men changed? Could it possibly have something to do with the unreal expectations women have?
 Quoting: Sivaro


I don't recall saying women would be better off alone. I am all for a union of 2 people that can work together and raise a family. that was my point.

Men have changed as well, they think a woman can do it all now. Work, raise a family still have dinner on the table etc. So the woman ( a good woman ) will go and work herself to death to keep up with the NEW expectations of men.
I don't have children yet, I am still young enough to wait until I am secure in a relationship to know that he is willing to go the distance with me :)

You sound like a deeply distraught person, who has had bad luck in finding a woman. Perhaps you are not looking for a good one, but one that is bad because you think you don't deserve it?

Best of luck to you!

Just remember woman have changed because they have been expected to pick up the slack where the men have left off.
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman and having something or someone else to blame it on.

I do think roles have changed in this world, but woman have been forced into being the bread-maker as well as the man. Not that I agree with it, but they have to do what they have to do in order to care for the children since the men like to get them pregnant, screw around, and leave them alone to raise them.

Not all woman should be put into a certain class either, just as men should not be. We are not all alike.

OP you sound like you would be better off not ever getting involved with woman. Glad you learned your lesson early. They might be better off without you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8361466


LOL

Of course women would be better off alone. Tis best if women simply stop raising children and being a partner to a man whom they cant trust.

Good for you, you got the point.

I just hope the man you take advantage of and abuse for your selfish needs and financial gain, can somehow carry on without you sucking his life out, and using his children as a weapon. Lord willing, the man that walks away from you will hopefully get a chance to find a good women and raise a real family.


Of course, you could ask yourself ... why have men changed? Could it possibly have something to do with the unreal expectations women have?
 Quoting: Sivaro


I don't recall saying women would be better off alone. I am all for a union of 2 people that can work together and raise a family. that was my point.

Men have changed as well, they think a woman can do it all now. Work, raise a family still have dinner on the table etc. So the woman ( a good woman ) will go and work herself to death to keep up with the NEW expectations of men.
I don't have children yet, I am still young enough to wait until I am secure in a relationship to know that he is willing to go the distance with me :)

You sound like a deeply distraught person, who has had bad luck in finding a woman. Perhaps you are not looking for a good one, but one that is bad because you think you don't deserve it?

Best of luck to you!

Just remember woman have changed because they have been expected to pick up the slack where the men have left off.
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At my job it's always the females slacking off. I understand they are physically weaker but they take twice as many bathroom breaks and ruin twice more product than males. Usually because they can't keep up. Your argument is blatantly wrong and anybody who has ever had a job knows it.
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Men have changed as well, they think a woman can do it all now. Work, raise a family still have dinner on the table etc. So the woman ( a good woman ) will go and work herself to death to keep up with the NEW expectations of men.
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I think you just don't get it. You were raised in a system that was a farce. These expectations are only 'new', in any way, because there are more shiny, pretty things for women to obsess over and a man is just not going to pay for that shit for a woman that doesn't save herself for him. The expectations are no different. If anything, less is expected. A woman now is basically expected to be a whore. That's pretty low expectations to live up to, and anything better would be super. But, sadly, most don't realize and have nothing more to offer. Women changed, natural law doesn't bend too much at this point. The backlash must be expected. It's been brewing for more years than you've been alive, likely. Its not your fault, its just the way it is.
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They got just what they wanted: all the money, respect (with threat of being sued),so crude and loud the men don't want them. End of America.
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Well actually I take that back women ruins more like 5 times more product. Especially on the assembly lines. They shouldn't be doing those kinds of jobs. They distract the males and flirt with the supervisors even though they are married to some sucker.
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Of course, Feminism is a well known destroyer of Nations







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very subtle - anti women
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This all sounds like men not being able to keep a woman and having something or someone else to blame it on.

I do think roles have changed in this world, but woman have been forced into being the bread-maker as well as the man. Not that I agree with it, but they have to do what they have to do in order to care for the children since the men like to get them pregnant, screw around, and leave them alone to raise them.

Not all woman should be put into a certain class either, just as men should not be. We are not all alike.

OP you sound like you would be better off not ever getting involved with woman. Glad you learned your lesson early. They might be better off without you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8361466


LOL

Of course women would be better off alone. Tis best if women simply stop raising children and being a partner to a man whom they cant trust.

Good for you, you got the point.

I just hope the man you take advantage of and abuse for your selfish needs and financial gain, can somehow carry on without you sucking his life out, and using his children as a weapon. Lord willing, the man that walks away from you will hopefully get a chance to find a good women and raise a real family.


Of course, you could ask yourself ... why have men changed? Could it possibly have something to do with the unreal expectations women have?
 Quoting: Sivaro


I don't recall saying women would be better off alone. I am all for a union of 2 people that can work together and raise a family. that was my point.

Men have changed as well, they think a woman can do it all now. Work, raise a family still have dinner on the table etc. So the woman ( a good woman ) will go and work herself to death to keep up with the NEW expectations of men.
I don't have children yet, I am still young enough to wait until I am secure in a relationship to know that he is willing to go the distance with me :)

You sound like a deeply distraught person, who has had bad luck in finding a woman. Perhaps you are not looking for a good one, but one that is bad because you think you don't deserve it?

Best of luck to you!

Just remember woman have changed because they have been expected to pick up the slack where the men have left off.
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Men, this is the classic example of a woman, who, when presented with irrefutable evidence of the OP's position, will then go on the attack.

It's known as "hsyteria". Look up the connotation between the word Hysteria and females, and the connection to HYSTERectomy, etc.

It's a female trait. She cannot logically discuss the video presented, so she will attack the messenger as "distraught", (projection?). Sort of like the old Soviet tendency to portray anyone who disagreed with the system as in need of re-education in a mental institution.

Know what you are dealing with when you see this type of behavior.

Red Flags to see and avoid.
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"Hysteria"..(fixed)
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Of course, Feminism is a well known destroyer of Nations







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Very interesting, particularly the part about reporting on the actions of men, bad actions using the word man and good actions not mentioning man or women.
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I just don't understand men who want submissive, "self-sacrificing" women to worship and pander them.

I'm a happily married man. In the 30 years I've run my own technical consulting business, I've watched with pride as my wife has built her own career. She's a strong-willed, sharp-tongued and intelligent woman - a real warrior who doesn't take crap from me or anyone else.

I'm damn smart. I consult R&D companies on advanced alloys, nanotubes and other exotic materials, but she's at least my equal. Sometimes her keen mind and ability to see through bullshit scares me, but most of the time it just makes me love her even more.

If I want a meal after 10 hours at work, I don't expect her to cater me. I'm a grown man - I can feed myself or survive a day without food. But when she does cook, I know it's out of love and not because of sense of duty.

When I'm down and feeling like I'm collapsing under stress and work, she's there for me, because she knows what it is like. Instead of telling me frivolous nonsense like how she'll love me even if I fail, she rallies me: "On your feet soldier! Failure is not an option, you know."

In a similar fashion, she doesn't expect me to cook or clean for her. We are equals and serve and support each other out of love, not out of duty.

There's nothing better in life than being married to a woman who's your equal. I don't see how there can be true respect and love in a marriage where one is expected to serve the other out of duty.
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I believe it is all the baby boomers fault... Think about it this way. They were the hippies of the 60-70's free love & all that crap, the women burnt their bras, and universities became uni-sex. They then went on to be the Yuppies of the 80's and gave birth to all the Gen Y's. Us Gen X's who came inbetween the BB's & GY's, were brainwashed to believe that a woman can do anything.
Well guess what they were WRONG. We can't do it all, and frankly I don't want to either!

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instead of being a man or woman...

why dont you just be YOURSELF


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Men versus women equals thought versus emotion. It worked for a long, productive time when both parties involved took pride in their natural roles and created a harmonious symbiotic relationship. Or something like that, at least. There was no oppression, they just tricked a whole gender that a job was something to desirable. It's part of the brainwashing. Then technology made a bunch of shit accessible and online shopping made it so easy to buy which didn't help those of feeble mind. All of a sudden a job was a necessary thing because things became so very important. Both genders are guilty, but women spend more to advertise themselves.
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Men versus women equals thought versus emotion. It worked for a long, productive time when both parties involved took pride in their natural roles and created a harmonious symbiotic relationship. Or something like that, at least. There was no oppression, they just tricked a whole gender that a job was something to desirable. It's part of the brainwashing. Then technology made a bunch of shit accessible and online shopping made it so easy to buy which didn't help those of feeble mind. All of a sudden a job was a necessary thing because things became so very important. Both genders are guilty, but women spend more to advertise themselves.
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I take that last sentence back because as soon as I hit send I thought of all those douchebags that buy Porsches.
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Pinned? Mods are drunk again.
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It is a very well kept secret, the video will open your eyes and you may see and notice things you did not before.
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Hi OP, I didn't see the video. But, this is a man's world ?
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instead of being a man or woman...

why dont you just be YOURSELF


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Because the male members among TPTB don't want woman to be able to be themselves they require that woman fulfill their caregiver role.

Otherwise they become a threat to them maintaining power.

How do you think Men have been able to maintain power for so long.

It's not because of luck or freedom of choice. It's through strategic methods of control operating mostly covertly in society.
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My belief is that women give more to society per calorie than men do.. its like with lions .. the females do all the work hunting, but the male lion rules, is quite lazy, and guards the territory. Of course it would be an illusion to say that the male or female lions are more useful - both live cruel existences inherent in their own natures.

As for my own personal choice of charity, if I sponsor a female child I am convinced statistically that everything they are schooled in will be taught to their children and to generations - as opposed to teaching a male child and having it go no further than their own work-life... hence my sexist bias in charity...

As for as males go, i remember reading a book by Sam Keen when I was a teenager called "Fire in the Belly" [link to books.google.ca] I used to quote the following to a lot of downtrodden males in the gutters of civilization with no father figures to look up, if not to follow this epitaph myself:

"A man is not someone who dominates other people in society, through relationships of domination and subordination. A man is someone who is a pillar in their community, who gives, and provides for all." (paraphrase; Supra)

My own personal views on men, albeit, is that statistically they are mostly cheap, selfish, self-loathers, high on rock'n roll barbituate tranquilizers... and if you forgive the irony of my words, maybe that's just how society socially constructed them with the half glazed look...

& I'm not saying their aren't any plastic barbie girl personalities that aren't equally as flawed. I'm not saying women are better. But i am saying that statistically I believe they give a lot more to our overall well-being, even when woman on average earn less money..

On the other hand, I think men are vital and important to society. But I think its up to men themselves to put a price on their own heads and prove their worth, way beyond their greater earning potential....

Besides the last thing i want to do in addressing an adult is to be so gullible and infantile to as reduce them to a categorical imperative of male or female. I think we can hopefully be so much more than that, in transcending what a penis or a vagina can dictate for an adult personality. It only shocks me that so little do..

I find reducing people to sexual categories is like insultingly reducing people to black and white prejudices - its sexual apartheid. Just be your own person!

Live and be free! Male and female sex stereotypical roles are just the Churches & the States way of keeping you all as reproductive slaves..

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I saw a friend that was getting married soon. He asked me what I thought of marriage. I replied:

"Find a women that hates your fukin guts and buy her a house. Just get it over with...quickly. Don't waste your life being married."

I feel sorry for married men...especially fathers; in this new state run world. They are treated like shit.





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