Misandry -Why Men Don't Exist

You watch "The View" nuff said.

I understand what is going on. But to label it misandry and to blame the feminist movement is equally wrong.

I agree that what the women did was wrong, there is nothing funny about such things.

I don't feel hated "one little bit", but if you choose to let fools get to you then so be it!

Ah yes. I'm sure there are many, many men who have ground their teeth when presented with the tired old refrain, where have all the good men gone?

Shallowness reigns supreme. Got a good sense of humor? have a steady job? Drive a regular car? Well, you can forget about it, buddy!

Those who do not match the bad Boys on the Telescreen need not apply.

This is an exaggeration. But not by very much.

I don't choose to give fools much of my time, as a rule.

And that is why this conversation is over.

If you cannot see what's going on then there's no hope for you.

Cool raise the surrender flag, and blame feminism for it!

Funny how men want to 'protect' women from everything except their own selfish desire to force all women into the specific role of being a man's servant just so they can find one.

The same guys who want to 'protect' women, also want there to be something from which to have to protect them... Let's let all the criminals out of jail so that we can feel important and women can be raped and be forced to turn to us for protection... sterling idea.

Gentlemen, I ask you--can there be any reasoning with a mind this irrational and filled with hatred?

How unbalanced and unfair does your world view need to be before you start accusing people of desiring to inflict rape on women?

Does this strike you as a fair and balanced mind that can see the inherent humanity in half the world's population?

Welcome to modern America.

Sometimes I feel like I'm actually living a Twilight Zone episode. A place where people's minds have been so hijacked and programmed that they can make insane accusations like the one above and nobody says anything.

It makes your skin crawl.

Just as an intellectual exercise, re-read the post replacing the word 'men' with 'black men', or 'Canadians' or 'Muslims'.

It isn't any less irrational to say the same things about men as a whole.

Several of you guys cheered this fellow on...

Talk about making your skin crawl. This guy said it in so many words... he wants a "free" and "violent" world so that he will be important and "valiant"!

And he got cheers and pats on the back for it...

So the next time that your skin crawls, maybe it should crawl because A MAN SAID IT and MORE MEN CHEERED IT.

I didn't make this shit up. It's right on this thread, and IN STEREOTYPICAL FASHION, you try to blame it on me. But it was a man that said it, and men that cheered it on.

Idiot.


Funny how you showed no outrage at all when a MAN said it. But when I reflected it, you suddenly had 'crawling skin'. Hypocrite.

Last Edited by Sandi_T on 01/28/2012 10:20 AM

I have noticed a thing.

when the subject of misandry is raised people find it impossible to stay on topic. If I say, "I think it's going to rain today," and you say, "Your oranges are getting moldy," there is no conversation going on.

Now consider this thread, as well as numerous other threads just like it. Men are saying, "The pendulum has swung too far; men are portrayed and treated as second class citizens." None of the detractors on the thread have made any attempt at all to disprove this using facts or examples or logic. I have yet to see any serious attempt to reconcile the double standard of the Man haters on The View joking about male sexual mutilation with the alleged desire for equality on the part of feminists and their male apologists.

Instead they regurgitate the same tired propaganda they have been brainwashed with. They are robots. They cannot hear what you say; they can only repeat their conditioning and hurl insults and accusations, hoping that something will stick and that they can irritate you sufficiently to drag you down to their level.

What can we learn from this?

Gentlemen, Feminism is a cult. Think about it. Have you ever tried to get a Jehova's Witness to see your point of view? Or a Scientologist? Ever debated with a Mormon? Or a fundamentalist Christian?

Each of these displays complete, dogmatic certainty. They have a set of beliefs and nothing--no reason, no arguments, no appeals to fairness or common sense--nothing, as I say, will break them out of their utter certainty.

It's the same with the modern Feminist. They can't hear you; they can't see what you see. Their minds have been co-opted. If you say, "I see evidence of misandry and here is a list of specific examples," they will say--

"Your oranges are moldy! ANDyou hate women!

I would like to point out another fascinating thing about this subject and this thread.

If I say to you, "I think the prices at K Mart are too high," do you assume that I bear hatred or ill will towards the employees of K Mart?

If I say to you, "The Income Tax is an un-Constitutional theft of my property!", do you assume that I bear hatred or ill will towards the employees of H & R Block?

If I say to you, "I think movie ticket prices are a real rip-off!", do you assume that I bear hatred or ill will towards the employees of Fox Studios?

In each case I am objecting to a perceived imbalance or unsatisfactory state of affairs. No reasonable person would make the torturous leap that I am waging a vendetta against clerks, tax accountants or movie moguls based on what I have stated.

And yet, if I say, "I think men are bdeing treated unfairly in this society, " INEVITABLY I am shouted down and insulted as if I were making remarks or comments about WOMEN.

As far as I'm concerned, nothing screams "I'm a brainwashed puppet!" louder than this inability to separate what I am actually saying from what they perceive as a threat to their programmed belief system.

9255363 as always.

But don't forget that those who disagree with you are 10x more likely
to post 'you're shit', than those who agree with you to post 'you're great'.

That's probably good, because if all the people started posting one-liners
'good on you mate' and such, the thread would be even more unreadable than
it is now.

The thread has 4 stars, with 43 votes - it means at least, that most people
agree with what's being said in here.

Btw nice quote I saw today:

If one were to take "white" and "male" out of science, the whole
human race would still be living in mud huts. [Dr. Frank Ellis]

perhaps some women do that because this is just the start of the men's movement as it were.
when women started 'getting uppity' and complaining about the lack of rights, it was taken as criticism against men.

adding to active threads for later viewing.

And hamsters working the wheels

Why should any of us try to refute it? Most of us agree with it. The problem, which in your following drivel, you never once bother to mention... is that the men in this thread want to correct the pendulum not by balance, but by pushing women back down "into their place".



Yeah, yeah, yeah. Except that OP said, "It's raining and it's all women's fault and when women have rights it destroys entire nations!" Then you want everyone to stick to the "subject" which ostensibly is misandry... but is actually, and I quote the OP VERBATIM:



So if you want to discuss misandry, keep it to that, rather than "feminism destroys nations" without any PROOF.

You are a disgusting person to demand PROOF and proper discussion when the OP deliberately opens with some shit like "feminism is a well known destroyer of nations".

War destroys nations. Men make war, women aren't even allowed in it. So MEN destroy nations... that's just fact.

If you want to discuss misandry, then the vast majority of women on this forum will be ALL for the discussion. AND agree 100% that the pendulum has swung too far.

But that's not what OP wanted to discuss. What OP wanted to discuss was how women must be owned by men again because feminism destroys nations (a foolish and unproven statement in and of itself--so much for vaunted "male logic").

You are full of shit. So is OP.

You have a nice day, now.

WRONG..

Sandi T.....

Feminism as most people know it from the 60's revolution was a purposeful evil act behind the scenes to destroy the *NUCLEAR FAMILY*

To Destroy the Role of Father and Destroy the Role of Mother by piting each one of them agaisnt another so there would be division, strife and seperation..(NO FAULT DIVORCE)

Most want you to believe that Women of the 50's wanted out of there Boring Mundane Lives at wives and mother's

That is TOTAL B.S

Sure there were exceptions where Physical Abuse was involved or alcoholism, but many of the Women of the 50's came out of the GREAT DEPRESSION they knew what is was like to be hungry, stand in bread lines, they knew what is was like to be children of World War 2 and see Father's leave and to go through Air Raid Drills at school, to be scared if they were going to be killed in Wartime

So after the War they wanted HOME and Hearth
A Home that they could bring up there children with enough food on the table, a nice warm bed to sleep in and to live in a Era of PEACE...They wanted the White Picket Fence and a Home of thier own..


Most MEN took there job as HUSBAND and FATHER seriously, they did not think of abandoning the FAMILY to shack up with the latest TROLLOP and leave there kids to go hungry.


The DRUG INDUCED 60's was the COLLAPSE of the NUCLEAR FAMILY and FEMINISM WAS ONE GREAT CAUSE OF IT...


And look at what we have today...

SHAMEFUL!

Good point! YOU are not supposed to be shouted down because YOU are NOT insulting WOMEN. OTHERS, however, ARE indeed insulting women as a complement of their complains. Your point cannot be used as an umbrella to defend those other guys. Clear?

Baby Boomers- As I am one...Still saw the Nuclear Family intact with trickles of seeing more divorces starting to prop up..Mother's still home raising the kids...

Baby Boomers create Generation X and kids found themselves as *Latch Key*

“latchkey kid” refers to unsupervised youngsters who care for themselves before or after school, on weekends, and during holidays while their parents work. They commonly carry house keys to let themselves in and out of their homes.”

GENERATION Y-age-group is often called the “eighties babies” generation, in reference to the fact that they were born between January 1, 1980 and December 31, 1989..

This SELF ABSORBED generation comes from Gen X who resented being Left Alone and started to create the *Entitlement Generation*

Millenials- Children born to Gen X and Gen Y an ERA of the VIOLENT CHILD, the ERA of a GENDER CONFUSED CHILD, And ERA of CHILDREN GROWINUP WITHOUT FAITH AND DIRECTION


Thanks Feminism! YOU DID A GREAT JOB!

I'm much better off alone than I ever was the any man.

I'm not defending anyone. I was making an observation. And the observation is generally sound.

This thread is not the first time I have discussed misandry. Neither is it the first one I have read as an observer. I'm betting most of the men here could say the same thing.

This tendency on the part of women to accuse one of misogyny for simply stating the obvious is one with which we are quite familiar.

I find it interesting that you assume I am attempting to justify other people's attitudes or remarks. Especially since you began by agreeing with the point I was making.

I posted this a day or so ago in response to the above questions.

I want to talk a bit more about number 4. Assuming for the moment that the social structure of the last few hundred years reflected actual inequality (and this is a point I do not concede), once women began demanding more rights they found men generally supportive.

Men marched with the Suffragettes. Men wrote pamphlets and gave speeches in support of the cause of Women's Rights. Men enacted legislation to bring those rights into being.

(One of the more amusing gaps in Feminist dogma is that a Patriarchy allegedly Hell-bent on keeping women barefoot and pregnant somehow fell asleep at the switch long enough to give them all the rights they demanded, plus more. Patriarchy! Is it evil, stupid, or suffering from amnesia? But I digress.)

So, once men became aware of the concerns of their wives and daughters they were willing to lend their aid to bring about change.

Now it is men who are saying things have gotten out of whack. But women have no interest in changing the status quo. They seem content to let things drift along as they are. Can anyone name a single prominent (i.e. nationally heard) female voice crying out against misandry? Just one?

No, neither can I.

It's high time women began exerting themselves for the eradication of institutionalized sexism and male bashing. Don't you care about your brothers? Are you unconcerned about the world your sons must grow up in?

When will we see the decent women stand up and march with us?

I for one as happy that I was born after feminism has allowed me a life where I had more choice. I am glad that I did not have to stay married to a cruel alcoholic man who would lock up the cupboards so I couldn't feed myself or my kids. I am glad that I did not die in childbirth, having my 9th baby....probably because I was malnurished by my asshole husband. This happened to my great grandmother in Ireland. I for one am happy that I had a choice.

I agree with Sandi T's points raised.
Misandry and feminism are two separate topics.
Regardless of its origins, feminism has helped women regain their inner power.
Men need to band together too now, to regain their inner power.
They can do this, not by putting women down, but by defining themselves for who and what they are.
Take women out of the equation.
What do you want men?
Do you want to be treated fairly?
Do you want to be valued?
Do ou want to be listened to?
You can define what you want without disrespecting anyone else.

Your sense of history is out of whack. Perhaps some men were supportive, but not the majority, that is for sure. It took decades of work. And it will take decades for the men's movement too. But it is a worthy undertaking. And you should do it because it needs to be done....whether or not women stand with you now. You need to unite with other men now. Define yourselves now.

I agree with "keeping the pendulum in balance" because men and women should have equivalent human and civil rights. I also tend to agree with your stance which is actually far from the worst I see here and yes, the video seems to show misandry.

That said, since you have an hard time understanding why women are fed up in your country and tend to quickly accuse men of misogyny, I'm going to ask you and other USA men this example question: where were you when for more than 2 decades, rappers sang about bitches and hoes? Did you man up, protected the women from verbal abuse and told the rappers to STFU? No? Then, don't complain.

Are you under the impression that I control the recording industry? Do you labor under the delusion that I can tell citizens with the right of free expression what they may and may not say? I don't listen to that type of music; neither do I call woman those kinds of names.But spare me your self righteousness; if you have ever seen a rap video you may have noticed they are brimming with women and female hangers-on. Does it stop being objectionable when it becomes profitable?

As for 'complaining', I will express my views of the culture and the country I live in without the benefit of either your consent or approval.

It is past time that people are made aware just how insidiously anti-male thissocirty has become. Pointing out that misogyny also exists is moot; nobody denies it. If you read back thfrough the thread I have already mentioned that anger and misogyny will not help resolve the issue.

I say misandry exists. You counter by saying misogyny exists, and therefore I have no cause for complaint.

Congratulations. You just made an airtight case in the Supreme 6 Year Old Kiddie Kourt.

I see. So by 'some men' being supportive, do you refer to the male legislators who enacted the laws women were advocating for?

You have to admit, at least, that 'some men' is still a number higher than zero. Zero being the number of women advocating for men's rights.



And I think I speak for all of us when I say we don't need you telling us to
define ourselves'. We already know who we are. The uniting you speak of is already taking place. men are starting to figure out what has been going on for the past 40 years. Threads like this one are only going to become more common.

You are absolutely wrong, and outright lying by saying there are no women advocating for men's rights. I am even now working very hard to help a man regain custody of his son (or at least visits with him, for the love of god!). I have helped him begin to empower himself, and pointed out some laws that were violated in getting him to sign a coercive statement voiding his rights.

There are many women who are advocating for men's rights. Because YOU don't know them, doesn't negate them.

And as I've already pointed out, there are plenty of women willing and ready to admit the misandry that exists. The worst problem, though, is that there are far too many of your own counterparts--men--who want to take away the rights of women and blame women having rights for everything that's wrong with society as if society was perfect until women gained rights.

You are making yourself look like an asshole, and an idiot to boot, by claiming ZERO women advocate for men's rights. In large part, many of us women feel that things such as men having the right to be around their children is ALSO about children's rights. And we will fight for both, because IT IS RIGHT, despite how much absolute LOATHING and TOTAL SHIT we take from men on a daily basis.

So what? Women do not give a shit about male issues, so, why should men care about women issues? Grow some balls, you are just a castrated feminist slave. Men like you should be mass kiled.

So what? Women do not give a shit about male issues, so, why should men care about women issues? Grow some balls, you are just a castrated feminist slave. Men like you should be mass kiled.

Feminism is a destroyer of Nations. It holds up one gender over another. It denigrates half the population. ( men) It inherently means men are not giving up enough, it is saying that women must change the way they think because " men" have failed to give equal consideration to women, So these women have to take up a philosophy unto their own.

Feminism is the opposite of equal rights. Feminist promote the image that men are less than women.

I fail to see how you cant understand this. And yes... that attitude destroys families, cities and eventually nations. In my opinion, women are the ultimate losers in this thought process.

Last Edited by Sivaro on 01/28/2012 09:55 PM