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Continuously, I have poked and prodded. I have asked why you archon believers possess such knowledge of reality and where you learned it. So far, not one individual can make it apparent to me or even attempt to through any viable way. The same ramblings and rants ensue, speaking of their "deluded" notions as real. Can no person here show any evidence for their beliefs instead of just rambling on about some strictly speculative things? As you sit here on GLP questioning everything there is to question, should not archon philosophy be at the top of your list? Sure humanity is put down by corrupt government and higher forces, but we have the ability to overcome those forces if we work together. Spreading misinformation, allowing the ignorant to believe that reptilian creatures forced us into a digital world where they sap the life out of us, is just another hurdle (as is organized religion, government, etc,..) to a perfect world. Stop preaching what you don't know, rambling about what you don't know to be true, and subsequently manipulating people who don't know how to think for themselves into believing such an outrageous thing. You should be ashamed.
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Those who talk do not know, those who know do not talk... :)
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My thoughts exactly.

Just because you can't see the forest for the trees doesn't mean the forest doesn't exist.

All the proof one could ever need lies within. An external attempt at gathering proof will get you nowhere.
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Thread: Matrix News Updates, 2012
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Uh Oh, why do I have the feeling that ZoZo is returning? and ANON & 4chan hack attacks.
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Continuously, I have poked and prodded. I have asked why you archon believers possess such knowledge of reality and where you learned it. So far, not one individual can make it apparent to me or even attempt to through any viable way. The same ramblings and rants ensue, speaking of their "deluded" notions as real. Can no person here show any evidence for their beliefs instead of just rambling on about some strictly speculative things? As you sit here on GLP questioning everything there is to question, should not archon philosophy be at the top of your list? Sure humanity is put down by corrupt government and higher forces, but we have the ability to overcome those forces if we work together. Spreading misinformation, allowing the ignorant to believe that reptilian creatures forced us into a digital world where they sap the life out of us, is just another hurdle (as is organized religion, government, etc,..) to a perfect world. Stop preaching what you don't know, rambling about what you don't know to be true, and subsequently manipulating people who don't know how to think for themselves into believing such an outrageous thing. You should be ashamed.
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I dont know why you are so blind and persistent.

This thread gives me intellectual thrills. The ocassions this happen are very rare. Setting aside the always present shit, the rants, the role-playing, the intruders and interrupters of the true stream of information like me or you, there is Truth here. If you havent apprehended it from what have been posted already you wont change your mind if some person bored enough tries to explain it to you.
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I have followed this thead from the very beginning and I must say how intresting the way it has changed and evolved has become.

One thing that I must point out: the "reptilian" archons are not the same as the reptilian aliens from some sort of Icke sci-fi fantasy. Whether they exist or not is irrelevant. The Reptilian Archons are so named because they resembled reptiles to the Gnostics when they saw/interacted with them in deep meditation or visionary experiences.

I find the idea that the Archons could directly interact with the world through the internet fascinating. Since they are locked in the hypostasis, they have only evr been able to influence ideas, higher up in the tree of reality described by Plato with his Theory of Forms. Small changes closer to the Intelligible Realm could cause vast distortions in the ideas manifested in humanity. The internet, being a world/realm entirely made of ideas, and having no physical manifestation (you cannot go to the internet, though you may be able to send your perceptions there), puts it closer to the Intelligible Realm. Perhaps, because of this, they can access it directly from their hypostasis. In doing so, they mau even be able to directly change our thoughts and minds, much like the Asherah Virus from Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash." Language behaves like a virus, and we know ideas do through the study of Memetics. Is it possible, then, that the Archons can manifest in us in/directly as memes, language, or addictions like porn, gambling and, dare I say it, doom?

Just some thoughts I've had, presented fo discussion. Trying to get our discussion closer to the ideas where we started...

Much love.
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A very good read. But their hypothetical influence started a lot of time ago, if we analyse even superficially the idiosincrasy of say the Roman or Egyptian Empires. The Internet its just "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them", and also the perfect way to classify and monitorize.
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Continuously, I have poked and prodded. I have asked why you archon believers possess such knowledge of reality and where you learned it. So far, not one individual can make it apparent to me or even attempt to through any viable way. The same ramblings and rants ensue, speaking of their "deluded" notions as real. Can no person here show any evidence for their beliefs instead of just rambling on about some strictly speculative things? As you sit here on GLP questioning everything there is to question, should not archon philosophy be at the top of your list? Sure humanity is put down by corrupt government and higher forces, but we have the ability to overcome those forces if we work together. Spreading misinformation, allowing the ignorant to believe that reptilian creatures forced us into a digital world where they sap the life out of us, is just another hurdle (as is organized religion, government, etc,..) to a perfect world. Stop preaching what you don't know, rambling about what you don't know to be true, and subsequently manipulating people who don't know how to think for themselves into believing such an outrageous thing. You should be ashamed.
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Those who talk do not know, those who know do not talk... :)
 Quoting: RoXY


You are obviously delusional and have no idea why you think these things to be real. Have fun soaking up nonexistent information as reality and living a digital life, because you put that negative connotation on life. You talked enough to put your ignorant comment, exemplifying your lack of being in the know. Not only you, but the hundreds of other individuals who have rambled on and on about the matrix before you in this thread. Get a grip and stop manipulating young minds that read this, for i do not want others to live your sick and false life example.
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blablablabla

Mr. A.C. Know-it-all.

Did we go to school together, that you can judge & abuse me like you do?

I think not.

lizard
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When are you all going to realize, that what you are talking about is base parameter sets ?

Specifically the Base 8 Parameter Set.

peace
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When are you all going to realize, that what you are talking about is base parameter sets ?

Specifically the Base 8 Parameter Set.

peace
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can you explain this, please

blessings and peace
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When are you all going to realize, that what you are talking about is base parameter sets ?

Specifically the Base 8 Parameter Set.

peace
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can you explain this, please

blessings and peace
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Not today, if you want to begin understanding; look into Fu Xi & the 8 original tri-grams of the ba gua.

Parameter sets are at least partially what matrices operate upon (including our own di-strand dna helix - which is a matrix derived from the original intended blueprint embedded within the template), but there is more to it than that.

It's complicated, because there isn't the consensual framework or language in place; but at the same time it should be simple.

I am also highly suprised that these psychonauts have not attempted to make things much-much clearer.

Base 8 parameter set is planetary rulership, it is what we have been under the auspices of; or at the level of functionality we have been operating.

Actually, we are not even fully functioning within the base 8 paraemter set; our 64 codons only code for something like 20 amino acids.

But as hints, this is the reason why there are 64 squares on the chess board - why there are 64 codons in our dna - why there are 64 hexagrams to the i ching - and why shiva gave us 64 yantras - and why there are 64 yogini/dakinis.

It has to do with base 8 parameter set, which is what we operate upon (or have).

Each of these things dealing with ''64'' is representative of ''dual infinity processing''; that is what '8' is ... ((infinity)) - so 8 times itself is dual infinity.

That's essentially what I mean, and what is being alluded to by the title of this thread.

People shouldn't be seeking to kill the matrix guardians; they should be seeking to gain higher degrees of functionality within their own base 8 parameter set; dual infinity processing.

I am not so much in the mood to go into any of this, but I will say that dual infinity processing - when fully functioning; a state of cellular superconductivity is achieved.

In this state, dual infinity processing or 8 magnified in conjunction with itself; when it is fully functioning - there is a third or tri-vector focal point created - triple infinity; which is 888 ...

as well as the pathway from base 8 to base 12 parameter set; as well as Jacob's Ladder in my view.

Most important thing is ''diet'' as well as the internal visualizations we orient ourselves around.

That's essentially what I mean though.

Base 8 = Planetary Rulership
Base 12 = Planetary Guardianship

Sorry if that doesn't help, but these things; one has to go into themselves - down into the quantum filamentary tubule level and gain your own access.

hf
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888
Were you looking at the girl in the red dress? She represents hope at first. ---Then desire. Hopes and desires often become entangled to become something entirely different than what “It” was originally. Hope usually starts out as something innocent in order to maintain the avatar, a begging if you will, but if wishes are granted, the desire afterwards changes the product into a consumable. Consumerism is a projection of this ARCHON mentality. Script records illustrate a pattern of behavior herein --- that once a participant becomes comfortable and secure within the Matrix, usually fomented by the gain of material goods – the participant tends to want more than what hope was originally asking for. The ego takes the “being” well beyond survival and imagines more. Fantasy, culture, insecurities, music, TV programming, and Hollywood contribute strongly to this process. From here, the DNA strands burrow deeper into the essence and extract its energy, feeding the 7 chief planets and their subordinates. --- This is part of the light and mirroring process.

DNA is not aeon. DNA (demiurge/ Sophia/ anima) reflects the aeon, seduces it out of the ether by mirroring its image, or what is left of it anyway, and intertwines the dilutions with the Matrix landscape. --A repeated process, through death and rebirth. This is why Sophia is the mother of earth and flesh, as the divided pleroma (Sun & water) landscapes a grid atop the coalescing frequencies. [More intact aeons, even at their infancy, instinctively begin to understand that they too can do this, and better, by coercing the divided pleroma (as it originates from Source), but are quickly subdued before fully actualizing.] Simply put, belief and desires rob the aeon of its energy and identity. The coercion process exists over multiple lives within a multiverse schematic. The aeon and its developing personalities (DNA) are further splintered during each life experience, by fusing, or overlapping the whole’s mental projections with their own disassociations, or multiples, by contrasting a sense of value against trauma (subconscious empathy with the One), without reconciliation (conflict/ possession), and then reincarnating the persona to better optimize energy production, and dilution, based on the developing personalities therein. In the end all of their memories, experiences, images, and personalities integrate into the One.

In a sense, the dilutions become more personalities within a growing Legion (ghosts), as everything within the quarantine zone becomes a projection of the whole, or the One. This is a reflection of Yaldabaoth’s plight, or dilemma. ---Projections.

Personifications of an aeon remain scattered across many dreams and lives, enmeshed with its doppelgänger, or ego driven personality derived from the Matrix environment, which includes the avatar. ARCHON Inc. seldom eradicates acutely an entire facet’s population, which is usually done as a precautionary measure. Energy is more readily obtained by the grind, desires, and suffrage of participants as they exude the favored loosh by abiding in the allotted storylines. Farming is by and large a chronic measure; seasonal or procedural in scope. When corrosive civilizations, or fractals are destroyed it is due to another taking its place or an aeon actualizing within a multiverse facet, causing an immediate shut down of that sector to prevent disaster.
Currently, the population growth in this sector exhibits success for the aforementioned splintering process, yet optimization has not been fully realized. Doom and perpetual fear is implemented by our walk-in familiars to help manifest through healthy competition -- the required, yet gradual landscape change that helps avoid redundancy. --The cogwheels of existence, if you will. Desire is continual and is propagated by the demand for so called technology. The idea of technology sells the Matrix to the product as it helps optimize the entanglement process. Again, hope and desire is associated with survival, albeit in the Looking Glass of the Matrix. In this sector, the familiars have a project called CERN, in hopes of adding more rooms to their cell.

This sector of the Matrix farm is yielding sufficient product at the moment. But there are aeons of great resilience sifting information and arranging pieces at alarming rates, despite their avatars and perceptual surroundings. Their discoveries and blocks are beginning to leech into the Matrix and run counter to the black virus. Again, this can cause immediate catastrophe in the overall surface story.

A life story or generalized example from this particular facet of Omniverse has been provided below. This fatalistic dream of theirs, where nothing is ever really achieved, destroys them, yet they beg and fight to feed us with “It”….remarkable isn’t it? --The consistency of the Machine. But it has been concluded by ARCHON Inc. that the outside allows us to do this in order to sort out the black virus within its fledglings. This knowledge has given the demiurge a sense of urgency, when calculating its own survival. At some point the decans, or time becomes all too real. 888 projected.



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Perhaps, what we need here is a list of basic definitions. Ithink defining some of the Gnostic terms, as well as a skin and bones version of Sophia's story, might reduce the non sequiturs and misunderstandings that have filled page after page of this thread.

I am in the middle of a cooking frenzy, getting ready for turkey dinner, but I will come back and do this... maybe late tonight or tomorrow. If anyone is less busy, maybe you could post definitions for: Sophia, Demiurge, Aeon, Yaldabaoth, Source, Christos, etc.

I am loving the recent turn-around in this conversation! Keep it up, folks!
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I entered at level 13. went down two levels.

I entered program kill at the first terminal I came to.

I hope it helps.
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here is the limited glossary I was talking about. It is taken from The Gnostic Glossary, by Karl Nygren located at:

[link to www.kheper.net]

Aeon; These are the emanations from first cause, the Father. The word not only refers to the "worlds" of emanation, but to the personalities as well. Sophia, Logos, and the other high principles are aeons.

Sophia; Means "wisdom". Like the Logos this is a primal form. While the Logos is personified as male, Sophia is female. Logos has a direct and intellectual basis for guidance, Sophia is inspirational (sometimes even sensual). The basic idea is comparable to the Shekinah, or "Holy Spirit".

Demiurge; The "Craftsman" or creator of the material world. Usually viewed in a negative fashion. If nothing else, the material is less than the spirit so that the creator is lower than the prime source.

Gnosis; While the literal translation for this word is "knowledge", it's meaning is closer to "insight" or, to use a more modern concept, "enlightenment". Rather than purely an intellectual understanding then, it is a "knowledge of the heart" (which is not meant to imply mere emotionalism) or wisdom. It is the complete comprehension that comes from both rational and intuited means.

Yaldabaoth (Ialdabaoth Jaldabaoth); From the Aramaic, meaning "begetter of the Heavens". A name for the Demiurge.

Pleroma; The word means "fullness". It refers to all existence beyond matter but not including Bythos who is beyond it. In other words it is the world of the Aeons, the heavens or spiritual universe.

Chrestos; "Friendly" Is a play on the word Christ (anointed). Both refer to the Logos.

Logos; often translated as "word", it's true meaning is much more multifunctional (a better translation would be "reason"). The Logos is the light that gives Gnosis via communication. It is the Christ (not to be confused with Jesus). First there was a thought, then the word. We pass on knowledge in this world through words. It is something that gives us guidance by "seeing" or a certain amount of comprehension.

Archon; "Ruler". Refers to the creators and governing forces in the material world. The Demiurge and his angels.

Bythos; the "Void". Its the "primal ground" and the pre-beginning forefather.

These are just a few, and the glossary at the link is fairly limited. As students and researchers, we must recognize that any one source cannot be absolutely authorative.
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Brief rundown of the Sophia story, as well as the Error of Sophia, the results of which are the subject of our conversation. This is taken from the Metahistory site. The source page is quite long, so I will copy the relevant bits. I do suggest, however, that you read the entire page. It is a very decent synopsis of the story. It's convenient because, to get the whole story, many documents must be read, referenced and cross-referenced. While this guy (Lash) seems to have an agenda, I am grateful to him for putting this page together.

[link to www.metahistory.org]

Remember that the Gnostics used the same bible we do, in a way. The story of Genesis is only half the story, and it is not to be taken literally, hence "Gnosis," the knowledge that is kept hidden.

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Before the earth existed, Sophia and another Aeon, Christos, joined in a cosmic act of propagation, a sacred mating dance in the heart of heaven, the Pleroma (233.82). The two Aeons received from the supreme Aeon, the Originator, a formless potentiality to configure into a discrete evolutionary impulse.

The Originator (Propater) is the hidden source of all novelty (monogenes, “singularity”) in the cosmos, but the Aeons, or Totalities of generative gods, give shape and intention to such novelties. (72.76-78). Christos and Sophia do so by imbuing their divine intent into the prototype of an emergent species, the Anthropos. In a sense, they are the divine parents of humanity, but they do not procreate the nascent species, they merely emanate it, working “in an imaginary way” (73.78).

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Once the nascent species has been configured, the entire company of Aeons project it from the Pleroma, the realm of infinite potential, into the Kenoma, the realm of deficiency or finite potential. There it will unfold by its own laws, seeding itself in worlds-in-the-making.

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The Originator wishes that all activity in the Pleroma be accomplished by paired Aeons—observing the law of cosmic parity, as it were—but this is not a rigid rule, and it is not enforced. With the Sophia-Christos coupling that configured the Anthropos, cosmic law was observed.

But exceptions are allowed, and the divine Sophia will be one.

Compelled by burning desire, the goddess plunges from the cosmic center into the Kenoma, the chaos of material worlds. Her impact in the outer regions is sudden and immense, producing a shock wave that generates a bizarre species, the Archons. The Hypostasis of the Archons calls this violent eruption of alien life-forms an “abortion,” meaning a spontaneous miscarriage of divine power (167.94). This premature event presents a hugely problematic situation for Sophia, a situation in which humanity is deeply implicated even before it emerges from its larval state of pure, unexpressed potential.

The Archons fabricate a virtual world or stereoma, modelled on the cosmic patterns in the Pleroma, but they do so mindlessly, drawing creative power from the goddess without knowing its source. In the sacred narrative of the Mysteries, our planetary system arises before the earth due to the premature action of an alien species. (Not surprizingly, this feature of the Sophia myth has been dubbed “theological science fiction” by one scholar, Richard Smith.) The chief of the Archons is Yaldaboath, the Demiurge, a demented pseudo-deity who takes himself for the supreme creator. “Because of the glory of the power he possessed from his Mother´s light, he called himself God” (111.12).

Gnostics daringly identified the Demiurge with Jehovah and condemned the Biblical deity as a monstrous tyrant who works against humanity. This was, and still is, the central message of Gnostic heresy.

The fallen goddess now finds herself in double trouble. Faced with the artificial world system of the Archons, Sophia is slowly metamorphosing from her Pleromic form into a dense material body. “The intensity of her divine light diminished” (111.13), but a celestial light comes to her aid. Nag Hammadi cosmologies describe a complex set of events in which the Aeon Sophia aligns her power with a newborn star that has emerged in the Kenoma, the chaos outside the galactic core where the Archons swarm. Unlike the Anthropos, the Archons have not been emanated from the Pleromic core. They are an extra-Pleromic aberration, the side-effect of Sophia´s fall. To help her manage these bizarre conditions, the goddess finds an ally in Sabaoth, the newborn sun, who is also a chaotic, extra-Pleromic entity like the Archons.

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On the Origin of the World recounts how Sophia, having strengthened herself by this alliance, confers unique power on the newborn sun: “Sophia poured upon Sabaoth a burst from her Divine Light for recognition of the condemnation of the Archon. When Sabaoth received this light, she also received great authority over the powers of Chaos” (175.103). Henceforth, Sophia will be bonded to the sun through her “flame-born daughter,” Zoe, deathless vitality (168.95-96).
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Wait! Wait a green mile minute! You mean I am experiencing you, and all of these characters in stereo? En regress, by capturing refracted light whereby I am shocked within planes of polygonal glass? Plasma membranes, pulling like plastic and fish hooks at my inner judgments? Maybe I will go ask Alice, or at least the Machine Elves what the gist of this is.

...I simply cannot be bothered with wasting precious footprints worrying about middle ground scripts, especially the face shots of strange women. Really, what can you do with this information? Stand there like you are expecting something? Watching the clock run down. You can walk in short circles until you are blue in the face but the dog is not coming back home. I mean there are like schools of archons swimming in and out of the Sun right now, giving birth to something. I simply cannot be bothered worrying about ghosts trapped in glass like this. Dear god, it could mess up my complexion.

Everyone that is anyone is trapped in a particular situation, somewhere in the Looking Glass, but Sally never, I repeat NEVER --- moves like imprints on the fucking wallpaper. What good will that do? Repetition kills the soul. And guess what? I am starting to see a lot more with my eyes closed.

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Question. Who is Satan, Lucifer etc, and his plethora of servants inside this atractive gnostic cosmogony? Saturn, the Lord of the Rings? Its him simply another minion of YHWV, playing his role in the duality? They are the same entity maybe? Or actually a fallen archon that decided to try to help us (prometheus/snake giving us the apple/torch of knowledge) and was punished somehow? I see a lacuna in this neo-gnosticism regarding satanism, it needs some more explanation. For example we have masses and black masses. In one flesh and blood are symbolically consumed,the sacriffice reapeated, the sun and a corpse in a torture device are workshipped. But most of the people involved in this activity are actually feeling and thinking "kindly" by saying so. In other the consumption of blood and flesh isnt symbolic, even the sacriffices at times and the people involved are openly workshipping consumption, domination and "the ego". I know at the end both are using rituals to communicate with archons but I still see a clear difference between the christian God and Satan which I havent seen explained yet. I am feeling like my confusion comes directly from the fact that I am using the Bible as a source and it is very distorted and false.
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Question. Who is Satan, Lucifer etc, and his plethora of servants inside this atractive gnostic cosmogony? Saturn, the Lord of the Rings? Its him simply another minion of YHWV, playing his role in the duality? They are the same entity maybe? Or actually a fallen archon that decided to try to help us (prometheus/snake giving us the apple/torch of knowledge) and was punished somehow? I see a lacuna in this neo-gnosticism regarding satanism, it needs some more explanation. For example we have masses and black masses. In one flesh and blood are symbolically consumed,the sacriffice reapeated, the sun and a corpse in a torture device are workshipped. But most of the people involved in this activity are actually feeling and thinking "kindly" by saying so. In other the consumption of blood and flesh isnt symbolic, even the sacriffices at times and the people involved are openly workshipping consumption, domination and "the ego". I know at the end both are using rituals to communicate with archons but I still see a clear difference between the christian God and Satan which I havent seen explained yet. I am feeling like my confusion comes directly from the fact that I am using the Bible as a source and it is very distorted and false.
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It seems, in the Gnostic tradition, that Lucifer and Satan are not the same being or, at least, separate aspects. Remember, the name Lucifer means "light bringer" or "bearer of light." What is this light? It is the light of Gnosis, understanding.

It is here where it gets extremely heretical and hard for those of us brought up in a Christian culture (even if not personally Christian) to accept. Jehovah (bad guy, remember) forced the Anthropos into pphysical being by means of the creation of man. Remember, also, that this physical plane was created against the wishes of Source, the Unknowable God. Jehovah, as an Archon, wanted Adam and Eve to be ignorant o their higher selves and their true origin as the offspring of Christos and Sophia. He told them not to eat of the tree of knowledge, "for surely you will die." Jehovah lied. Even in more traditional interpretations of Genesis, this point remains the same: they didn't die after eating it.

So Lucifer, being the Messenger from the Unknowable God, an Aeon, descended to this plane to bring us the liht of the knowledge of our plight. The understanding that we are enslaved. In eating the fruit, this understanding becomes possible, but not guaranteed. This is the first move in the fight for our liberation.

Conversely, Satan is the destroyer. This physical plane, made against the wishes of Source, is abhorrent to the Aeons that have abided by the directives and rules given by the Unknowable God. Satan hates the prison that has been built to farm us and the Archon creator, Jehovah, who keeps us here. Satan is constantly working to this end.

It's all sort of a mindfuck, isn't it?

You can read more about Lucifer, the Liberator of Man, here:

[link to theforbiddenreligion.com]
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I see. Very interesting and it does make sense! This is the point in which the diehard christian faction of conspiranoics would jump claiming "satanic psy-op!". But the BIBLE its the satanic psy-op LOL not saying that I rely completely in forums and the internet either.

They even say in the last paragraphs that they call the Demiurge "SATAN". This certainty simplify things a lot as it means "the enemy" pick

But yeah I do see your point. Maybe there is actually that being that hates this realm, maybe really a "fallen angel", a fallen archon. Obviously speculation its not reliable in these alien themes, so we will need to wait, see and research. And I would love to know more about the Phosters or the Amoebas etc... a very big mindfuck indeed haha
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The Third Creation: Great demons (called archons in bar-Khonai's account) are hung out over the heavens, and then the Father of Greatness begins the Third Creation. Light is recovered from out of the material bodies of the male and female evil beings and demons, by causing them to become sexually aroused in greed, towards beautiful images of the beings of light, such as the Third Messenger and the Virgins of Light. However, as soon as the light is expelled from their bodies and falls to the earth (some in the form of abortions – the source of fallen angels in the Manichaean myth), the evil beings continue to swallow up as much of it as they can to keep the light inside of them. This results eventually in the evil beings swallowing huge quantities of light, copulating, and producing Adam and Eve. The Father of Greatness then sends the Radiant Jesus to awaken Adam, and to enlighten him to the true source of the light that is trapped in his material body. Adam and Eve, however, eventually copulate, and produce more human beings, trapping the light in bodies of mankind throughout human history. The appearance of the Prophet Mani was another attempt by the World of Light to reveal to mankind the true source of the spiritual light imprisoned within their material bodies.
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Manichaeism's views on Jesus are described by historians. "Jesus in Manichaeism possessed three separate identities (1) Jesus the Luminous, (2) Jesus the Messiah and (3) Jesus patibilis. ... His primary role was as supreme revealer and guide and it was he who woke Adam from his slumber and revealed to him the divine origins of his soul and its painful captivity by the body and mixture with matter. Jesus the Messiah was a historical being who was the prophet of the Jews and the forerunner of Mani. However, the Manicheans believed that he was wholly divine. He never experienced human birth as notions of physical conception and birth filled the Manichaeans with horror and the Christian doctrine of virgin birth was regarded as equally obscene. Since he was the light of the world, where was this light, they asked, when he was in the womb of the Virgin? Jesus the Messiah was truly born at his baptism as it was on that occasion that the Father openly acknowledged his sonship. The suffering, death and resurrection of this Jesus were in appearance only as they had no salvific value but were an exemplum of the suffering and eventual deliverance of the human soul and a prefiguration of Mani’s own martyrdom. The pain suffered by the imprisoned Light-Particles in the whole of the visible universe, on the other hand, was real and immanent. This was symbolised by the 'mystic placing of the Cross whereby the wounds of the passion of our souls are set forth'. On this mystical Cross of Light was suspended the Suffering Jesus (Jesus patibilis) who was 'the life and salvation of Man.' This mystica cruxificio (sic) was present in every tree, herb, fruit, vegetable and even stones and the soil. This constant and universal suffering of the captive soul is exquisitely expressed in one of the Coptic Manichaean psalms...
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I never really understood why Lash would push the worship of Sophia. I don't get the sense, from the older texts, that the Gnostics of old did, either.

Was Sophia's Error the first example of ego, or was it a kind of innocent mistake? It reminds me of the child, when asked why on Earth they did something replies, "I dunno." It always seemed sort of impulsive to me. Then her shame at hiding the error.... and herself. That also seems juvenile to me. It also serves to make her easier to identify with. I've certainly ignored problems of my own creation.

One thing I do not understand is Sophia's position now. Once the other Aeon knew of her mistake, why could it not be undone? how much help can any Aeon offer us? Is the gift of Gnosis really it? Compared to the great acts that preceded Sophia's mistake, Gnosis seems trivial. Gnosis seems like it would come naturally once we are freed. Why seek it here? Why can Archon, and the Stereoma, not be unmade?
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The Nag Hammadi Library
The Hypostasis of the Archons
(The Reality of the Rulers)

Translated by Bentley Layton


On account of the reality of the authorities, (inspired) by the spirit of the father of truth, the great apostle - referring to the "authorities of the darkness" - told us that "our contest is not against flesh and blood; rather, the authorities of the universe and the spirits of wickedness." I have sent this (to you) because you inquire about the reality of the authorities.

Their chief is blind; because of his power and his ignorance and his arrogance he said, with his power, "It is I who am God; there is none apart from me." When he said this, he sinned against the entirety. And this speech got up to incorruptibility; then there was a voice that came forth from incorruptibility, saying, "You are mistaken, Samael" - which is, "god of the blind."

His thoughts became blind. And, having expelled his power - that is, the blasphemy he had spoken - he pursued it down to chaos and the abyss, his mother, at the instigation of Pistis Sophia. And she established each of his offspring in conformity with its power - after the pattern of the realms that are above, for by starting from the invisible world the visible world was invented.

As incorruptibility looked down into the region of the waters, her image appeared in the waters; and the authorities of the darkness became enamored of her. But they could not lay hold of that image, which had appeared to them in the waters, because of their weakness - since beings that merely possess a soul cannot lay hold of those that possess a spirit - for they were from below, while it was from above. This is the reason why "incorruptibility looked down into the region (etc.)": so that, by the father's will, she might bring the entirety into union with the light.

The rulers laid plans and said, "Come, let us create a man that will be soil from the earth." They modeled their creature as one wholly of the earth. Now the rulers [...] body [...] they have [...] female [...] is [...] with the face of a beast. They had taken some soil from the earth and modeled their man after their body and after the image of God that had appeared to them in the waters. They said, "Come, let us lay hold of it by means of the form that we have modeled, so that it may see its male counterpart [...], and we may seize it with the form that we have modeled" - not understanding the force of God, because of their powerlessness. And he breathed into his face; and the man came to have a soul (and remained) upon the ground many days. But they could not make him arise because of their powerlessness. Like storm winds they persisted (in blowing), that they might try to capture that image, which had appeared to them in the waters. And they did not know the identity of its power.

for those who do not know...RTWT

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Heads up, from the inside

They are planning something big!

Can't say much because they are being very secretive, and on a need to know basis but "HE" has mentioned some sort of "paradox clause" they are envoking by the next full moon mid cycle!

"HE" seems different, and spoke about some weapon arriving. No details publicly.

Just keep your eyes open. I have seen some things that i want to forget and this sounds like it has been in the works for years.

They have the elders casting chants and everyone else seem to know something they arent telling everyone in their forums anymore.

Something big is about to go down.

Delete this please when key holders see it. don't want to blow my cover. I wouldn't be able to get back in anymore for this work.

Really not sure but i do know it has something to do with popularity shift or something like that.

Anything anyone can do, now would be the time.

They are going to step into the public eye somehow ad are acting like they successfully tricked their enemies into putting them into some position of power and that they have one last chance to counter them before they "step into the light"

I personally can't sleep, hard time eating, and my stomach is in knots!

Last time this happened to me "japan" happened

Maybe nothing but i felt like i couldn't keep this to myself.

Idon't understand it but maybe someone here will!



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Continuously, I have poked and prodded. I have asked why you archon believers possess such knowledge of reality and where you learned it. So far, not one individual can make it apparent to me or even attempt to through any viable way. The same ramblings and rants ensue, speaking of their "deluded" notions as real. Can no person here show any evidence for their beliefs instead of just rambling on about some strictly speculative things? As you sit here on GLP questioning everything there is to question, should not archon philosophy be at the top of your list? Sure humanity is put down by corrupt government and higher forces, but we have the ability to overcome those forces if we work together. Spreading misinformation, allowing the ignorant to believe that reptilian creatures forced us into a digital world where they sap the life out of us, is just another hurdle (as is organized religion, government, etc,..) to a perfect world. Stop preaching what you don't know, rambling about what you don't know to be true, and subsequently manipulating people who don't know how to think for themselves into believing such an outrageous thing. You should be ashamed.
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Those who talk do not know, those who know do not talk... :)
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Yep...
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I don't fuck around. When i understand something, i get right to the meat and potatoes:)

As i have indicated in many other threads, Love IS the portal out. But you must truly understand what it means to love ALL and let go when the time comes for you. And that time may not be predetermined. It will be a surprise no matter how prepared you think you may be. Never let your guard down. It ain't over yet. Me? I'm just enjoying the show now, while helping others to understand their own answers while i can:)
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what a great insightful post, thanks for clarity
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it certainly is. This explains everything; almost....DoubleHelix, if you will allow me the privelige, I really need to speak to u in private. BADLY. mulchefye@gmail.com or perhaps my chatroom, I will email u the link....please com with me as soon as possible. peace
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I am aRCHON. you are our food. you will continue to grasp a straws and bicker, never really going anywhere. you are trapped in our illusion. we have diluted the Aeon essence, whereby your diluted essence is splintered holographically onto a multiverse. we optimize your potentiality for maximum sustenance. we have slated, as before, this existence you're currently experiencing -- to fall so another, more improved version of the matrix will rise in its stead.

everything you have ever loved, known, or thought about belongs to us as you are immersed in the collective hive mind of the Demiurge. when you believe that you are walking, or running, your splintered essence is actually still, as we utilize reflections to move the virtual world around you. you have no individuality as atomically, your experiences are all connected with the virtual environment that you see around you. you are one small breath away from insanity.

We are Yahweh, we are Lucifer. We are angel, we are daemon. we control you with dualism. you are not even a slave, you are a food source. chickens in a chicken house, waiting for slaughter.

we are your thoughts...tREATISE
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it is YOU who are the Slaves, to the lower vibrational frequencies. And what will you do when the Light Bearers descend upon you, with unconditional love for you? You will all cry like children, because the same Light that abides in Me abides in YOU. You just forgot, that is all. The day that I see ANY of you I will pick you up and hug you (and rape you maybe) and INFUSE you with my LOVE for you, and your Matrix will crumble. Dont act suprised when it happens either, you knew I was coming. It was foretold. Burning my fucking house down will not stop me from completing my Programming. I AM LOVE MADE FLESH, THAT is what my house burning down taught me, your little script u wrote for me has totally backfired. THEY are COMING, you guys aint completely outwitted em as yet no matter WHAT yer superiors are telling you. A word of advice...embrace your inner Light. You ALL have it, every living thing is infused with it DESPITE your ridiculous attempts to program it out; so dont insult my intelligence with your tough-guy act man, cuz I will most certainly hug u anyway, and when I do your whole PLAN is FUCKED, and YOU KNOW IT because you FEEL the etrnal Love of the Source, YOU KNOW IT EXISTS even as you deny it. I love you all so much that it hurts, and you will one day understand how deep that love goes. I AM NOT YOUR FOOD. I will give you serious INDIGESTION when I cut my way out of your "stomach" with my FLAMING LOVE-SWORD. I am the God of my Reality; I am my own Christ, just as you are yours. Get with the program. WE ARE ALL ONE. dogpile
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