In your opinion, what withdrawal symptoms are the worst?

If I don't get 8" of hard cock at least 4x a week I get squirrely

Alcohol. Withdrawl from that is the only one that will kill more times than not

I would have to say Pussy.. I had the shakes, couldn't sleep, and damn it's all I could do not to get some.. But I finally gave in, now I'm a pussy addict again, getting it all the time.

What I have quit after moderate medium long term use in my 39 years
Adderall
Cocaine
Meth
paxil
xanax
Alcohol

What I cant quit ..cigs

Worst withdrawls
paxil
and xanax
Tied


The rest not that bad except first 4 days off meth and adderall
Day after coke cravings are annoying

But paxil omfg never again that was hell and I had no clue how nutty I would get post xanax


And it took much longer to feel better after paxil and xanax then all others combined


Cept for the flipping cigs ...i can not quit nicotine lol

Methadone, cold turkey. The diarrhea did not start until day 12, that is when it got REALLY bad.

I have since developed an herbal protocol for opiate and benzo withdrawal. Benzos still require MD supervision... that one CAN kill you. Nonetheless, the protocol has assisted two dozen or more people to get off and stay off.

anti-depressants. I would never take them.

worst for me was Abilify

Based on my personal experience I'd say Opioids/Opiates but based on first hand accounts from others I would say Alcohol/Benzodiazepines

I'm on my 7th month clean from Opioids (Oxycodone) and it was a living hell for two weeks. Fortunately after that it wasn't too bad as I was able to sleep but the anxiety, no energy and no ambition was tough (PAWS Symptoms)


But from what others have been through withdrawing from Alcohol/Benzos they actually went into seizures and couldn't maintain normal body functions for months.

In fact I lost a good friend to Alcohol withdrawal due to these very reasons

After methadone, the PAWS was awful. As an herbalist, my gardens were my livelihood. I just watched them die. I neglected everything around me as I just sat and hurt and cried and spaced out for seven months. My kids wondered what was wrong with me.... it was very hard to explain to them.

Folks should know that there are board certified Addictionologists out there. They understand how it works and don't give the hassles that a Methadone clinic does. Oddly, my addictionologist is a PAWS denier. I don't get his perspective, but the reductionist view of the body seems like a possible source of this thinking.

All in all, I believe withdrawal has a "spirit sickness" component as a root for PAWS. In the protocol I mention above, flower remedies (google bach flower remedies.... I have no idea how they work, but I use them in my practice because they do.... same with homeopathics) are central to the treatment of PAWS.

Alcohol and benzo withdrawal should ALWAYS be medically monitored. IT CAN KILL YOU. You hear folks say that it can't, but that is bullshit. You also hear folks say PAWS isn't real, but you can ask any long-term opiate user and they'll tell you the truth.

If anyone is interested, I will post the (mostly) herbal protocol I developed and use in my practice. It helps, a lot, but nothing can make symptoms go away completely.

Benzos/alcohol are the only ones that can kill you if you don't taper properly.

nicotine

benzos

Then you have never had an opiate withdrawal.

benzos are the worst. And the longer you are on them, even at a low dose, its better just to be maintained on them. benzo withdrawal should never be attempted at home. I you are on benzos for a couple months you will have some sort of siezure. beware that alcohol and benzo withdrawal have the highest incidence of death in withdrawal. moderation is the key. they told us back in the 1980's that xanax was way better than valium and was not addictive. so at the anxiety clinic the stupid shrinks(the dumbest doctors and psychiatry should not be a branch of medicine)would rx the stuff like candy. for example 8 1mg a day. I could not function even on 4. I took about 3 a day. after awhile xanax don't work that well for sleep. you just take them to keep you from going into convulsions. now i am on clonazepam. my shrink told me clonaz is to ativan, xanax, fast acting benzos, what methodone is to heroin. only intelligent thing i head from a shrink in my life and those goes back 30 years.

If you are millionaire or got 35,000$$$ the Waisman benzo detox is the best. this is telling: waisman anaethesia detox for opiates is one day. For benzos users its 5 f ing days of being under, and a week inpatient follow up.

what makes me mad about usa medicine is these f ing doctors can get a sole patent, propriatary on a procedure and thats why they are so expensive. would never happen in France or Norway. fact is many detox doctors tried the anaesthesia method for detox with success it was just this greedy scumbag WAisman got a patent on it. f him. f us business law and its tentacles withholding treatment for the 99%

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nicotine is hard but nothing compared to benzo and opiate withdrawal. the key to cigarrette or nicotine in another delivery form is to gradually exand the time between cigarettes. I got down to several at night. and can go several days without a cig. and even have quit for several years. but when things happen in life that cause stress then its so easy to start smoking again.


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I pray for the day that the US empire falls and that we become an equal, peaceful, non exploitative, contributory republic within the worlds family of nations

I'm on effexor and if I try to come off of it, I get flu symptoms really bad and my brain "jumps". I get so sick and I can't function at all. I haven't been off it in 16 years and hope not to be off of it ever. I am also on Geodon and Xanax. Hope not to be off of those either.

knowledge. When you are awakening and you are in a phase of feeling like you aren't making any progress and freak out a little. worst

nicotine is wildly addictive I'm absolutely losing
my god damned mind...

i just cant ever do it. gum whatever i cant do it.

I cant sleep i cant think i pace im filled with rage there
are no other thoughts in my mind there is only one thing
in the entire world that I need that will fix every problem ther
ever was and its SMOKES

oooooooh. I'm in the zone now. so utterly hungry
and transfixed and fixated and mindlessly repetatively
no spellcheckingly zero edit madness.

only one thought... must get nic.

omg.

It is

I'll agree. It has to be a pretty high tolerance and cold turkey though. The rest are weak. The physical problems can be dealt with in about a week with antihistamines. Then a good change in environment and you'll be fine, if you actually really want to quit that is.

Now, you can sleep off a good portion of the physical nicotine withdrawal the same way, but that's when the mental battle really begins. I used to flip my key ring around on my fingers whenever I got nervous or anxious FOR YEARS after I quit. Plus cigarettes are EVERYWHERE, relatively cheap, and people are often more than willing to lend you one if you ask. They should only be available with a prescription.