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"Suffer not a witch to live."

We've all heard it, we're all familiar with it. Christians primly say that they don't have to murder witches anymore--they've grown up now that the NT is around!

The Muslims primly say that they don't kill anyone at all, and never did because their religion is peaceful except for those 'nuts' that are all 'over there'.

The jewish people (the religion, as "jewish" is not a race) claim that they also have "grown up" and the killing of witches no longer happens anywhere, and hasn't in oh... centuries! Really!


Perhaps that is because the damage has been done and the so-called 'witches' are all either dead or afraid to admit that they have visions and experience preternatural events. From the very beginning, we instill in our children that anything supernatural they might experience is not real. They are to discount it, no matter the evidence, however strong it may be.

The pharma companies thrive because herbal lore has been systematically culled. Women who had it taught to them by generation after generation have been butchered, almost always in the most heinous ways possible in order to suppress this natural heritage.

And people who see visions of murders or other crimes are intentionally demonized as "diviners" or "witches". If they happen to be in one of the Abrahamic religions, they are demon-possessed and are treated "appropriately" according to that religion.

So far, I have met no one who 'gained' these kinds of abilities. Even people who use various 'tools' to augment their abilities have always had them. But it's dismissed as "very strong intuition" or other acceptable sorts of harmless things...

Yet all that I have met were born with it. And we are always persecuted for it. We are denigrated or outright demonized.

How does this serve the agenda of the Usurpers (these so-called 'elites')? Because they could be caught by a person who sees visions of them murdering.

They could be caught by a person who speaks with the dead. When the dead can speak and say who murdered them, and an investigation can be opened based on that (though it should never be considered evidence in a trial, only in opening an investigation, IMO)... then there is grave danger for the murderers and thieves that call themselves our government.

So there is benefit in killing the herbalists. Money, power, increased disease...

There is benefit in killing those who can See... power, secrecy...

I have spent a lifetime being demonized because of the abilities that I have. I have been "exorcised" and I have been called a witch and everything else. And yes, people have tried to exploit it and exploit me--the government, no less.... but when they failed to use me, they tried to destroy my mind and they ensured that I would be silenced from speaking of my abilities by torturing me with 'exorcisms'.

Being a person with these natural abilities is STILL, to this day, RISKY. It frightens people because they are trained to believe that anyone who has these NATURAL, INBORN, GOD GIVEN abilities is inherently evil in and of ourselves.

They used to kill us. Now they demonize us, make our abilities and our knowledge of herbs illegal, and otherwise persecute us in less overt ways so that people don't become outraged...

But it is no less effective. And there's no way to know how widespread these abilities are, because where the eugenics have failed, the propaganda has succeeded.

They have a vested interest in silencing herbalists, pychics, and mediums. They always have. And if you are one who sits there and claims that these god-given gifts are demonic, then you serve the elites.

I have pointed out repeatedly how christianity serves the elites, but even I have avoided discussing this one. We who have these gifts are still so powerfully demonized, and misunderstood, that speaking of it opens up that door to persecution.

I have been silenced over and over since childhood. I still find it extremely difficult to speak of it. I am weary of facing the things that I must face if I admit to these abilities even indirectly, much less if I try to reach out and use them for their intended purpose.

The killing of "witches and sorcerers" isn't holy or righteous. It's intended to steal from the world and oppress those who could stand in opposition to pharma and to the murderous Usurpers who steal our children and do violence to them in the name of 'science' and 'national security' and war.

The Big 3 Abrahamic religions have been the most religious (pun intended) in wiping out these so-called 'witches' and 'sorcerers'. Men and women alike, slaughtered, butchered, and tortured to warn off anyone else who dared share these inherent, inborn gifts or the wisdom of herbs and the natural gifts of the planet.

It continues now, just in different, more cunning ways. Make no mistake, the Usurpers do NOT want people who can oppose their powerful eugenics pharma programs. They do NOT want people who can See their murders. They do NOT want people who can bring peace into the hearts of the serfs and help them find harmony. The Usurpers need war, and peace and harmony does not serve that agenda.

That's why "witches" and "psychics" and "mediums" are evil... because they are humanity's friend and thus an enemy of the Usurpers!
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You make some valid points. It takes a lot of courage to speak out on such a sensitive subject. rose
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Additionally, if these abilities weren't so demonized, we could support, care for, and aid those who experience the more burdensome ones. Many suffer in silence and in fear because they See murders or they See terrible things that are going to happen... and not only do they know they won't be believed, but they also know perfectly well that they could become suspects themselves!

If a person sees visions of murders and reports it, they often become suspects. Rather than being able to aid in catching the true murderer, they are persecuted.

So they must live with the painful experience of seeing or even sometimes feeling the murders... and not be able to talk to anyone for comfort, tell anyone and help the families get closure and justice... nothing.

The person experiencing these visions becomes a victim of a system that labels them evil and demonic through no fault of their own. They suffer misery and grief and pain with no comfort or surcease at all. They cannot tell their friends or they will end up with no friends. They cannot tell their family or they will end up ostracized.

It is a lonely path of misery because it is considered inherently evil, through no fault of the person experiencing it. Comfortless and alone, many commit suicide to escape the persecution of those who 'love' them, or to escape the pain of knowing but being able to do nothing and tell no one.

When the 'wonderful' efforts to exorcise the non-existent demons fail, then they are told that it's because they don't WANT the "demon" to go away... so they are yet again demonized. Usually while wanting DESPERATELY for the ability to go away because thanks to society's loathing, it brings only pain!

So often even when directly murdering them is not practiced, they are driven to suicide anyway. In part due to lack of support or compassion from anyone at all in their life.
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The knowledge of herbs is another way in which the edict against 'witches' has served the Usurpers. By demonizing herbalists as 'witches', utilizing the mystery and the fact that many of them spent so much time alone in the woods (gathering herbs), they have managed to systematically divorce us from Earth.

The Earth produces massive amounts of herbs, many that are both dangerous, and yet healing... depending. For example, Lobelia has been strongly indicated in assisting with lung function for people with asthma. But if taken in too large a dose... death.

The American Indians used to have people with 'broken breath' smoke slight amounts of lobelia. They then never required the assistance of the pharma companies (to the tune of hundreds of dollars per year) in order to live normal lives. Their 'broken breath' did not get worse and require more and more and more over time, either...

The term 'witch' (sorcerer as well) is carefully loose and open-ended. Anyone who practices anything that the Usurpers consider intrusive to their agenda can be labeled as evil and thus easily demonized simply because of these nebulous terms... witch, diviner, sorcerer, heathen...

Beware nebulous terms. They are easy to use in manipulating you.
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Gang stalking = witch hunt.

Having said this the PTB/Nazites hire the real EVIL witches, black magicians and psychics to do their dirty work.

The ethical intuitives, visionary's and truth speakers often end up on gang stalking lists because we refuse to do their dirty work and join their side.

Simply put it's best to keep a very low profile if you have any of these types of skills and are ethical.


The Nazites will destroy you if they find you and you refuse to work for them. Just because you pose a threat to their Agenda.
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Gang stalking = witch hunt.

Having said this the PTB/Nazites hire the real EVIL witches, black magicians and psychics to do their dirty work.

The ethical intuitives, visionary's and truth speakers often end up on gang stalking lists because we refuse to do their dirty work and join their side.

Simply put it's best to keep a very low profile if you have any of these types of skills and are ethical.


The Nazites will destroy you if they find you and you refuse to work for them. Just because you pose a threat to their Agenda.
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Yes. When they are caught using these abilities in vile ways, they are quick to point out that they "aren't real". They use 'science' to say that claims of things like MKUltra and the rest cannot possibly be true because such claims are absurd.

Yet when it comes time to destroy those who could oppose them, suddenly they have the religious right to deal with these 'bad' people because they have a group that thinks it IS very real... AND very evil... But who still don't believe in the government utilizing it!

It's twisted how they use both "it's not real" and "it's very real" at the same time, just with different groups of people--to equal effect!
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The knowledge of herbs is another way in which the edict against 'witches' has served the Usurpers. By demonizing herbalists as 'witches', utilizing the mystery and the fact that many of them spent so much time alone in the woods (gathering herbs), they have managed to systematically divorce us from Earth.

The Earth produces massive amounts of herbs, many that are both dangerous, and yet healing... depending. For example, Lobelia has been strongly indicated in assisting with lung function for people with asthma. But if taken in too large a dose... death.

The American Indians used to have people with 'broken breath' smoke slight amounts of lobelia. They then never required the assistance of the pharma companies (to the tune of hundreds of dollars per year) in order to live normal lives. Their 'broken breath' did not get worse and require more and more and more over time, either...

The term 'witch' (sorcerer as well) is carefully loose and open-ended. Anyone who practices anything that the Usurpers consider intrusive to their agenda can be labeled as evil and thus easily demonized simply because of these nebulous terms... witch, diviner, sorcerer, heathen...

Beware nebulous terms. They are easy to use in manipulating you.
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It amazes me how the same ideology can be used both ways.
Herbs were mentioned in the Bible for use as healing and food. Then witches were burned at the stake for being "possessed". Then, Drs. used herbs in treatment and it was quite acceptable.

I have a Materia Medica from the late 1800's and herbs were used by Drs. They cured things with the use of herbs that are now considered incurable by "modern" standards.

Interesting.
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Link?
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You don't stop to think why they are no longer physically killed?

It was a shadow of the spiritual world - people who consult the dead, worship other Gods, cast spells etc are not of God. They are dead to Him.
What do you think the lesson was all about? Do it here on Earth and the eternal consequences is DEATH for the Spirit. None of these people will be in the Kingdom of God if they do not repent and seek the Lord. Period. Nada. None.

Your criticisms come from the view point of one who willingly chooses to dabble in this crap. You understand now what God means - the penalty is spiritual death. I choose to listen and obey God Almighty, you don't . So ranting all day about the unfairness of it all is rather pointless. You would rather believe the lying little demons instead of Almighty God who keeps you protected, warns you of the consequences, yet you cast Him as the "baddie" cause you wanna play with the demon world. Do you not see how the decision is on your head? And that all you are trying to do is shake the blame onto other people?
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It amazes me how the same ideology can be used both ways.
Herbs were mentioned in the Bible for use as healing and food. Then witches were burned at the stake for being "possessed". Then, Drs. used herbs in treatment and it was quite acceptable.

I have a Materia Medica from the late 1800's and herbs were used by Drs. They cured things with the use of herbs that are now considered incurable by "modern" standards.

Interesting.
 Quoting: Nine's


Yes, it has been slowly and carefully phased out. More and more we have been divorced from Earth.

Allopathic medicine has now fully replaced homeopathic medicine. However, most of these Usurpers (rockefeller, for example) use exclusively homeopaths while they sell their pharma drugs out of their other hand!!

They won't touch the stuff. They know it's poison. But funny how THEIR homeopaths aren't 'witches' and aren't charged with a felony for treating using 'evil' herbs and homeopathic remedies!
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You don't stop to think why they are no longer physically killed?

It was a shadow of the spiritual world - people who consult the dead, worship other Gods, cast spells etc are not of God. They are dead to Him.
What do you think the lesson was all about? Do it here on Earth and the eternal consequences is DEATH for the Spirit. None of these people will be in the Kingdom of God if they do not repent and seek the Lord. Period. Nada. None.

Your criticisms come from the view point of one who willingly chooses to dabble in this crap. You understand now what God means - the penalty is spiritual death. I choose to listen and obey God Almighty, you don't . So ranting all day about the unfairness of it all is rather pointless. You would rather believe the lying little demons instead of Almighty God who keeps you protected, warns you of the consequences, yet you cast Him as the "baddie" cause you wanna play with the demon world. Do you not see how the decision is on your head? And that all you are trying to do is shake the blame onto other people?
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Exactly. Here you see exactly what I am speaking of. I was born with these things. I was exorcised, I was christian and believed these same things... it had to be a "demon"!

Because I bought into this crap, I was suicidal for a long time. I was faced with trying to ignore it every day of my life because it was "evil" and "demonic".

I had no one to turn to in order to seek understanding, guidance, and help. Instead, I was told things like this. That my natural, god-given abilities were me 'consorting with demons' and that I was inherently evil and trying to "cling to the demon" and various other nonsensical things.

My criticisms come from the view point of a person who has faced persecution because of having GIFTS that I couldn't control or stop. I was entirely alone in them. I had no support, no one to help me understand or come to terms with it.

Instead, I was told that I was consorting with demons, willingly dabbling, etc. ad nauseum. Rather than help, I met walls of loathing such as this one. A perfect, stereotypical example!

Note that the poster doesn't even see that I speak of the religions, but instead says that I am "blaming the almighty" or whatever.

Do you not see, AC, that you are trying to place all the blame on me for having had a GIFT? That you make me out to be some kind of evil person only because I was born with abilities that frighten you?

There is no demon. There is only me. These things have been a part of ME since I was born. Your claims that they come from demons are wrong... but what can you do?

Only what you were taught. Demonize me, because you are fully indoctrinated to do so. It's that simple.

But these things are part of me. No amount of prayer or exorcisms ever got rid of them because they have NOTHING to do with demons at all! They never did.
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That's why "witches" and "psychics" and "mediums" are evil... because they are humanity's friend and thus an enemy of the Usurpers....

I'd rather be evil in the eyes of the Usurpers, than good(~).

btw: the abrahamic religions are Spiritual fraud(~).

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That's why "witches" and "psychics" and "mediums" are evil... because they are humanity's friend and thus an enemy of the Usurpers....

I'd rather be evil in the eyes of the Usurpers, than good(~).

btw: the abrahamic religions are Spiritual fraud(~).

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Yes, exactly! The times that I have used my gifts, they have always been out of genuine love for humanity. The purpose is to bring peace to the grieving and justice for those who have been harmed... because that brings closure and peace to the grieving, as well.

The very people we most long to reach out to, are often the ones most eager to destroy and demonize us, though.

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The Abrahamic ARChon virus spreads by two illusions simultaneously, patriARChy and linguistics, as they can and do overwrite the heart mind with a veil.

The universe swipes these archon viruses cyclically with electromagnetic radiation, which is what is happening now at the microcosmic and macrocosmic level.

Language as we know it is about to be annihilated as the corrupted data storage is swiped clean.

How will physical-soul interfaces fare that are unable to think/observe/create/be outside of the archons neuro-linguistic programs (numbers and words)?
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"Suffer not a witch to live."

We've all heard it, we're all familiar with it. Christians primly say that they don't have to murder witches anymore--they've grown up now that the NT is around!

The Muslims primly say that they don't kill anyone at all, and never did because their religion is peaceful except for those 'nuts' that are all 'over there'.

The jewish people (the religion, as "jewish" is not a race) claim that they also have "grown up" and the killing of witches no longer happens anywhere, and hasn't in oh... centuries! Really!


Perhaps that is because the damage has been done and the so-called 'witches' are all either dead or afraid to admit that they have visions and experience preternatural events. From the very beginning, we instill in our children that anything supernatural they might experience is not real. They are to discount it, no matter the evidence, however strong it may be.

The pharma companies thrive because herbal lore has been systematically culled. Women who had it taught to them by generation after generation have been butchered, almost always in the most heinous ways possible in order to suppress this natural heritage.

And people who see visions of murders or other crimes are intentionally demonized as "diviners" or "witches". If they happen to be in one of the Abrahamic religions, they are demon-possessed and are treated "appropriately" according to that religion.

So far, I have met no one who 'gained' these kinds of abilities. Even people who use various 'tools' to augment their abilities have always had them. But it's dismissed as "very strong intuition" or other acceptable sorts of harmless things...

Yet all that I have met were born with it. And we are always persecuted for it. We are denigrated or outright demonized.

How does this serve the agenda of the Usurpers (these so-called 'elites')? Because they could be caught by a person who sees visions of them murdering.

They could be caught by a person who speaks with the dead. When the dead can speak and say who murdered them, and an investigation can be opened based on that (though it should never be considered evidence in a trial, only in opening an investigation, IMO)... then there is grave danger for the murderers and thieves that call themselves our government.

So there is benefit in killing the herbalists. Money, power, increased disease...

There is benefit in killing those who can See... power, secrecy...

I have spent a lifetime being demonized because of the abilities that I have. I have been "exorcised" and I have been called a witch and everything else. And yes, people have tried to exploit it and exploit me--the government, no less.... but when they failed to use me, they tried to destroy my mind and they ensured that I would be silenced from speaking of my abilities by torturing me with 'exorcisms'.

Being a person with these natural abilities is STILL, to this day, RISKY. It frightens people because they are trained to believe that anyone who has these NATURAL, INBORN, GOD GIVEN abilities is inherently evil in and of ourselves.

They used to kill us. Now they demonize us, make our abilities and our knowledge of herbs illegal, and otherwise persecute us in less overt ways so that people don't become outraged...

But it is no less effective. And there's no way to know how widespread these abilities are, because where the eugenics have failed, the propaganda has succeeded.

They have a vested interest in silencing herbalists, pychics, and mediums. They always have. And if you are one who sits there and claims that these god-given gifts are demonic, then you serve the elites.

I have pointed out repeatedly how christianity serves the elites, but even I have avoided discussing this one. We who have these gifts are still so powerfully demonized, and misunderstood, that speaking of it opens up that door to persecution.

I have been silenced over and over since childhood. I still find it extremely difficult to speak of it. I am weary of facing the things that I must face if I admit to these abilities even indirectly, much less if I try to reach out and use them for their intended purpose.

The killing of "witches and sorcerers" isn't holy or righteous. It's intended to steal from the world and oppress those who could stand in opposition to pharma and to the murderous Usurpers who steal our children and do violence to them in the name of 'science' and 'national security' and war.

The Big 3 Abrahamic religions have been the most religious (pun intended) in wiping out these so-called 'witches' and 'sorcerers'. Men and women alike, slaughtered, butchered, and tortured to warn off anyone else who dared share these inherent, inborn gifts or the wisdom of herbs and the natural gifts of the planet.

It continues now, just in different, more cunning ways. Make no mistake, the Usurpers do NOT want people who can oppose their powerful eugenics pharma programs. They do NOT want people who can See their murders. They do NOT want people who can bring peace into the hearts of the serfs and help them find harmony. The Usurpers need war, and peace and harmony does not serve that agenda.

That's why "witches" and "psychics" and "mediums" are evil... because they are humanity's friend and thus an enemy of the Usurpers!
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sorry,but i would hardly call a drug overdose,spiritual or supernatural
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Compassion, understanding, and tolerance are the attributes of the love of christ. This is how the love of God prepares us all for the conversion to our true selves as spirit.
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You don't stop to think why they are no longer physically killed?

It was a shadow of the spiritual world - people who consult the dead, worship other Gods, cast spells etc are not of God. They are dead to Him.
What do you think the lesson was all about? Do it here on Earth and the eternal consequences is DEATH for the Spirit. None of these people will be in the Kingdom of God if they do not repent and seek the Lord. Period. Nada. None.

Your criticisms come from the view point of one who willingly chooses to dabble in this crap. You understand now what God means - the penalty is spiritual death. I choose to listen and obey God Almighty, you don't . So ranting all day about the unfairness of it all is rather pointless. You would rather believe the lying little demons instead of Almighty God who keeps you protected, warns you of the consequences, yet you cast Him as the "baddie" cause you wanna play with the demon world. Do you not see how the decision is on your head? And that all you are trying to do is shake the blame onto other people?
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Exactly. Here you see exactly what I am speaking of. I was born with these things. I was exorcised, I was christian and believed these same things... it had to be a "demon"!

Because I bought into this crap, I was suicidal for a long time. I was faced with trying to ignore it every day of my life because it was "evil" and "demonic".

I had no one to turn to in order to seek understanding, guidance, and help. Instead, I was told things like this. That my natural, god-given abilities were me 'consorting with demons' and that I was inherently evil and trying to "cling to the demon" and various other nonsensical things.

My criticisms come from the view point of a person who has faced persecution because of having GIFTS that I couldn't control or stop. I was entirely alone in them. I had no support, no one to help me understand or come to terms with it.

Instead, I was told that I was consorting with demons, willingly dabbling, etc. ad nauseum. Rather than help, I met walls of loathing such as this one. A perfect, stereotypical example!

Note that the poster doesn't even see that I speak of the religions, but instead says that I am "blaming the almighty" or whatever.

Do you not see, AC, that you are trying to place all the blame on me for having had a GIFT? That you make me out to be some kind of evil person only because I was born with abilities that frighten you?

There is no demon. There is only me. These things have been a part of ME since I was born. Your claims that they come from demons are wrong... but what can you do?

Only what you were taught. Demonize me, because you are fully indoctrinated to do so. It's that simple.

But these things are part of me. No amount of prayer or exorcisms ever got rid of them because they have NOTHING to do with demons at all! They never did.
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well said op.hfthey are a part of me as well...people fear what they do not understand..so therefore it must be "of the devil" or you're possessed by a demon.....I am tired of it.
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That's why "witches" and "psychics" and "mediums" are evil... because they are humanity's friend and thus an enemy of the Usurpers....

I'd rather be evil in the eyes of the Usurpers, than good(~).

btw: the abrahamic religions are Spiritual fraud(~).

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Yes, exactly! The times that I have used my gifts, they have always been out of genuine love for humanity. The purpose is to bring peace to the grieving and justice for those who have been harmed... because that brings closure and peace to the grieving, as well.

The very people we most long to reach out to, are often the ones most eager to destroy and demonize us, though.

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^^^ Love thy enemy(~) ^^^ hf >>> (secret) this destroys the hate coming from the enemy(~).
We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people.

I forgive myself, I Love myself, I'm sorry, Please forgive me, I forgive you, I love you, Thank you.

God Bless You;
I Bless You;
Bless Yourself(~).

Love is the answer ~ Peace be with You.
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God loves all of his creations, and wants us to be participants in creation, and look what we are doing with that first creational gift of life. In 200 yrs, our gifts will be multiplied, to the point we can create weather, food, and communicate with others here and across the universe, all through thought. Hi-technology, will be a thing of the past, and archaic.
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"Instead, I was told that I was consorting with demons, willingly dabbling, etc. ad nauseum. Rather than help, I met walls of loathing such as this one. A perfect, stereotypical example!

Note that the poster doesn't even see that I speak of the religions, but instead says that I am "blaming the almighty" or whatever.

Do you not see, AC, that you are trying to place all the blame on me for having had a GIFT? That you make me out to be some kind of evil person only because I was born with abilities that frighten you? "

No, actually I don't . You say that you were a Christian and therefore you knew what God expected of you. You say that you were speaking about the religions and not God Himself, but you cannot separate a commandment of God from His people. As you know, God warned on so many occasions, throughout scripture, what these things are and the consequences of using them. So how am I full of "loathing" for not agreeing with something that God commands? So in reality your criticism is not with me nor any other religious person, but you consider God to be the "loathsome" one.

You know the consequences and have perfect free will to continue participating or not. It is on your head. You don't have the excuse of "I didn't know" like a tribesman in Africa who has not heard one line kelt scripture. There are a thousand honest Christians who would help you, but you don't want it because you would rather think of your contact with these spirits as a "gift". It is now your choice, nobody elses, so please stop blaming the lack of sympathy of religious folk for the choices that you have willingly made despite knowing the word of God. We are all adults.
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"Instead, I was told that I was consorting with demons, willingly dabbling, etc. ad nauseum. Rather than help, I met walls of loathing such as this one. A perfect, stereotypical example!

Note that the poster doesn't even see that I speak of the religions, but instead says that I am "blaming the almighty" or whatever.

Do you not see, AC, that you are trying to place all the blame on me for having had a GIFT? That you make me out to be some kind of evil person only because I was born with abilities that frighten you? "

No, actually I don't . You say that you were a Christian and therefore you knew what God expected of you. You say that you were speaking about the religions and not God Himself, but you cannot separate a commandment of God from His people. As you know, God warned on so many occasions, throughout scripture, what these things are and the consequences of using them. So how am I full of "loathing" for not agreeing with something that God commands? So in reality your criticism is not with me nor any other religious person, but you consider God to be the "loathsome" one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9544542


Yes, I do know what "god" expected of me... that I be murdered before my fourth birthday, because that was when it all began... when I was three. Probably before, but that's the first incident I remember, and I couldn't talk before that anyway.

And you are exactly right, I will be happy to quote you in the future when christians claim that christianity is not violent... "but you cannot separate a commandment of God from His people."

So christians are violent, because your god commands you to be. You murder people who have abilities you don't understand or accept because your god commands it.

And yes, you are full of loathing. You just don't understand why or how. This ability is part of me and always has been. I can't get rid of it, never could, no matter how much I tried. Therefor, because it is part of me and you demonize it, you loathe me because I have no choice in having these GIFTS.

And yes, since leaving christianity, I have begun to understand that they are GIFTS. When I no longer demonized a huge part of myself, I was able to use it in love as it was always intended!

You know the consequences and have perfect free will to continue participating or not. It is on your head. You don't have the excuse of "I didn't know" like a tribesman in Africa who has not heard one line kelt scripture. There are a thousand honest Christians who would help you, but you don't want it because you would rather think of your contact with these spirits as a "gift". It is now your choice, nobody elses, so please stop blaming the lack of sympathy of religious folk for the choices that you have willingly made despite knowing the word of God. We are all adults.
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That's where you're deeply wrong. I do not have a choice. And I did not know when I was a small child. I have always had these gifts and I wasn't able to be rid of them, even when I ignored them and pretended they weren't there and did everything christians told me to get rid of the "demons" that were so loving and kind towards me.

I don't "blame" you for your lack of sympathy. You are incapable of it because you do not understand. You are indoctrinated to hate me and you are indoctrinated to hate these things in me that are PART OF ME and will always be part of me.

The bible is not the word of god. The bible is packed full of lies. One of those lies is that you should murder everyone like me because we are demons... these abilities are an inherent part of me, and I am not a demon.

You demonize what you don't understand, and you willingly claim that it is the "word of god" to butcher people who you don't understand.

The "thousands" of christians have tried to help me, and I was a MORE THAN WILLING participant in their supposed help. But they were trying to "help" by "delivering me from demons" when THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING AT ALL!

It's like throwing water on a person and saying they are burning... when their problem is a broken bone. No wonder it never worked when they tried to exorcise the "demons". THERE ARE NO DEMONS THERE! They were throwing water on my when what I needed was a hug, understanding, and help in dealing with something that I was taught was horrible.

No, I don't expect you to understand. I know you will forever believe that it's "demons" and if I would JUST let people exorcise me (over and over and over again for the rest of my life), someone would eventually get rid of it... like pouring water on the broken bone over and over and over and over again will someday "fix" the "fire" that doesn't exist.

You cannot FATHOM that it could be something besides what you have been taught. You are mindlessly certain that it's "demons" no matter how many times throwing exorcisms and prayers and everything else at it have failed.

Your desire for these things to fit into your paradigm will never make it happen. All you can do is butcher cruelly the next 3 year old you see who has these abilities. That way she won't have to live with your cruelty and the endless suicidal feelings that come from the LIE that she must just WANT to "traffic with demons".

This lie is so horribly evil and vile I can't even express it. But then again, christianity is king of "blame the victim".
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"Christianity is the king of blame the victim."


I'm confused, you say that you were a Christian growing up and suffered exorcisms and therefore Christianity is king of blame the victims. And that you've seen these things since a child.
And in another post you claimed that you were a victim of satanic child abuse and therefore Christianity is an evil religion because Jesus paid for our sins through His shed blood.
These don't match. So which is it? You had sympathy and empathy poured out to you in the other thread when you claimed that you were a victim of Satanic ritual abuse, yet now you are claiming that you were actually a Christian child who grew up with visions of dead people and that you are once again a victim by these religions.

Your stories don't match. Nobody, including myself, has blamed you. Why do you get angry with somebody pointing out to you that it's a choice that you've made to carry on with these activities? What it does is treat you as an adult, not a victim. You are an adult, and since you were supposedly a Christian, you know what God has told you about spirits on Earth and what they are. How do you factor this as blaming the victim. Where are you a victim in this version Sandi? You are an adult, and you've made your free will choice to do as you want to do.

You are not a victim in all this Sandi, so stop creating threads claiming that you are a victim and that religion is making you a victim. And stating that you are responsible for your actions that you choose to carry on with such activities is forcing you to take responsibility for such actions. You despise it because it denies your claim of victimisation. A victim has no control of what happens to them, but a victim is not somebody who deliberately puts themselves and others in harm's way. And I certainly dont judge you for it is not my job to judge, but to make known exactly what you are dealing with.

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The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. (NIV)
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"Christianity is the king of blame the victim."


I'm confused, you say that you were a Christian growing up and suffered exorcisms and therefore Christianity is king of blame the victims. And that you've seen these things since a child.
And in another post you claimed that you were a victim of satanic child abuse and therefore Christianity is an evil religion because Jesus paid for our sins through His shed blood.
These don't match. So which is it? You had sympathy and empathy poured out to you in the other thread when you claimed that you were a victim of Satanic ritual abuse, yet now you are claiming that you were actually a Christian child who grew up with visions of dead people and that you are once again a victim by these religions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9544542


The problem is your lack of reading comprehension. Sorry old chap. You clearly don't understand what you read.

Your stories don't match. Nobody, including myself, has blamed you. Why do you get angry with somebody pointing out to you that it's a choice that you've made to carry on with these activities? What it does is treat you as an adult, not a victim. You are an adult, and since you were supposedly a Christian, you know what God has told you about spirits on Earth and what they are. How do you factor this as blaming the victim. Where are you a victim in this version Sandi? You are an adult, and you've made your free will choice to do as you want to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9544542


Of course you have blamed me. You claim that I am "wanting to consort with demon spirits", in almost as many words. You state that I have "made [my] free will choice to do as want to do" as if I have a choice in having seen and experienced these things all my life.

Which shows two things... your utter and complete ignorance about them, and that you blame me for them.

What is amazing about you is that you first blame me, then you say you didn't, then you blame me yet again not more than a sentence or two later!!

You are not a victim in all this Sandi, so stop creating threads claiming that you are a victim and that religion is making you a victim. And stating that you are responsible for your actions that you choose to carry on with such activities is forcing you to take responsibility for such actions. You despise it because it denies your claim of victimisation. A victim has no control of what happens to them, but a victim is not somebody who deliberately puts themselves and others in harm's way. And I certainly dont judge you for it is not my job to judge, but to make known exactly what you are dealing with.

1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. (NIV)
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You are ignorant and you definitely, without a doubt, are saying that seeing these things and is my CHOICE. That is BLAME.

So not only are you completely incapable of basic reading comprehension, but you don't even understand what you write!

And yes, you have judged me repeatedly. Not only have you judged me repeatedly, but you have done so from complete and total ignorance. You know NOTHING of what any of us experience when we have these GIFTS, and yet you still presume to judge that it is a "choice" and that it is "willing consorting with demons" and other such twaddle and rot.

But I thank you sincerely. You are showing with startling clarity the EXACT thing I am pointing out. How we are demonized by ignorant people who mindlessly parrot a book that says "suffer not a witch to live" and thus mindlessly serve the agenda of destroying anyone who could get in the way of the Usurpers' agenda.

So do please keep posting, because while dealing with your inability to understand what you read or even type is tiresome, it also displays exactly what I speak of with startling clarity.

Perhaps if you keep it up, people will begin to see just how stark the mindlessness and the hatred really is. Thank you.
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hf just trust your self OP
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So much stupidity. Witches cause war today running Washington DC.
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So much stupidity. Witches cause war today running Washington DC.
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Sure they do.
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I am very sorry for what you had to endure at the hands of closed minded individuals.
I believe what you have said and I do believe the elites purposely keep the populace blinded to the truth.
After all if the knowledge of natural cures and practices is suppressed then we have a very dependent people on the poison our own doctors peddle.
I wish I knew which herbs and plants to use because I feel like I was meant to be a healer in this life but not in the nurse/doctor sense.
I also believe in a past life I was killed because of my beliefs and practices, aka being a witch.
I have no special abilities now that I am aware of but even my fascination with subjects like this has branded me a witch or evil by a few people who have known me; although, I am by no means even slightly evil lol

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