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Scientists finally admit plasma is responsible for magnetic fields in space!

 
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I need you now! Need your help.?....plasma is blood, 60%, can you help me? How to contact you?
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Dammit, the dancing banana ir super cute.....what do you know of plasma? Please sweetie....
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Q=ϕ*Ψ

So electric induction is the unification of the magnetic and dielectric fields, but the magnetic and dielectrics are two different fields of energy, electric induction only manifests as a unification of these two fields.
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Q=phi*psi
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Assume the lotus position, breath in, and "gooooss frahhh baaahhhhh"

x 5 times.

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Hmmm, I should take my own advice I think....
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I need you now! Need your help.?....plasma is blood, 60%, can you help me? How to contact you?
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Whoa, I hadn't even thought of that!

Cell surface receptors are membrane proteins that act as the communication between the cell and the outside world.

Signal transduction is the binding which initiates a chemical change on the intracellular side of the membrane. This means the receptors play an important role in cellular communications and signal transduction.

This could very well tie into the plasma above us and the particles heading this way. Couldn't it?

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I can't stop thinking about this. Wow AC you've just said something I had never thought of.

I was associating the plasma to just cosmology. Changes up there would change every cell in our body. The receptors would literally recode based on the new information given.

I think that could be the most important sentence I've ever seen on here!
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I hope you don't mind but I've pinned this. I would like others to think about what's been said...
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cOOL REALLY?
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SS and Plasmare/Xenus, thanks for all the cutting edge information you are bringing us. I have been inching my way through SS's threads as well as the Xenus thread on plasma, especially interesting is how this all relates to the latest IBEX findings. I look forward to more info from you guys, SS I especially would like to hear you interviewed as I think it would be a great opportunity to recap everything for those of us who have yet to make it through all the pages of your threads.
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Plasma is charged matter. Electricity can never be seen without magnetism. We are always talking about electromagnetic fields.
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And its the planets that emit these electromagnetic pulses
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


No they do not, it is the plasma in the atmosphere that emit EM radiation. Solids, liquids and gases do not emit electromagnetic radiation, plasma does. Maybe the core does too since it's also a plasma. Plasma is the only thing that can EMIT EM radiation naturally. That is why the sun glows, UFOs glow, because they're plasmas and can be invisible, glowing or discharging electricity, like lightning.
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It's the planets that emit the pulses. I am talking on a higher level and so is Apollo. Eventually science which is just another religion, will admit this.
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The key is the amount of plasma in the cell. At 55-60% it means it has the overriding dominance on that cell.
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I've often wondered if Kerry or Bill would ever get around to interviewing you Sickscent and I hope this happens soon. I think you offer a bridge between Bill's and Kerry's Left Brain Right Brain paradigms and can bring some excellent information synthesis on an important topic. Kerry is very much into "Live Stream Conferences" now and if you and Dr. Paul Laviolette, and David Talbott were online together I think I'd be too happy for words!

Even if that isn't an option why not draw up a list of people you'd really like to chat with and do your own livestream. You're very effective at asking the questions many of us have but lack the specific knowledge to articulate. Interviewers are just asking questions...you have many why not go to the source yourself?
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Looks like it may happen next week. Kerry contacted me on Monday and we have been planning it out.

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Oh fabulous! I cannot wait! It will be nice to put a voice to the brain, lol lol

Cheers Sickscent, you will do an excellent interview, I just know it.

And cheers to you OP. wonderful wonderful thread!
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Plasmare, I've been reading your stuff for a while and appreciate the time and work you put into it. 90% of the people who hit the reply button are jerkoffs. 90% of the people who don't hit the reply button are people interested in learning, knowing, and understanding.
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So, is it a molten core of metal in the Earth or plasma instead?
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it's such a simple concept of elecromagnatism
I can't understand why this is new.

move a conductor(iron core) thru an electrical field
(solar wind)you create a magnetic field.

opposite of a motor but clearly the same
principle.
 Quoting: solar bear


Spot on! The Sun has an a iron core resulting in the magnetic field present in the heliosphere's plasma. just as the Earth's magnetic field can set up magnetic fields in the magnetosphere's plasma.
In the case where plasma is producing magnetism on it's own in the absence of an iron core celestial body, it has iron or ferrous ions present, which is not at all unusual. Plasmere has mediocre IQ and a total lack of understanding of the interaction of all of the electric and magnetic forces in the universe and is an amateur hack like Astronut
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Plasma is charged matter. Electricity can never be seen without magnetism. We are always talking about electromagnetic fields.
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And its the planets that emit these electromagnetic pulses
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINATI


No they do not, it is the plasma in the atmosphere that emit EM radiation. Solids, liquids and gases do not emit electromagnetic radiation, plasma does. Maybe the core does too since it's also a plasma. Plasma is the only thing that can EMIT EM radiation naturally. That is why the sun glows, UFOs glow, because they're plasmas and can be invisible, glowing or discharging electricity, like lightning.
 Quoting: Plasmare

It's the planets that emit the pulses. I am talking on a higher level and so is Apollo. Eventually science which is just another religion, will admit this.
 Quoting: mindfrac


Plasmere is wrong again, solids certainly do emit electromagnetic radiation. A radio antennae is just one of thousands of examples. DO NOT take anything this individual claims as correct, he is a brainless hack
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Plasmare, I've been reading your stuff for a while and appreciate the time and work you put into it. 90% of the people who hit the reply button are jerkoffs. 90% of the people who don't hit the reply button are people interested in learning, knowing, and understanding.
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You have been wasting you time and having you mind filled with useless non information,
search post by 'Anonymous Astrophysicist" and you will get a much more accurate and intelligent analysis of all of these phenomenon. The problem is they are all trying to explain observations based on concepts which are false, unproved and credulous. The universe is electric. It has electromagnetic fields, ferrous core celestial bodies, charges particles , and flows of electrons that are it's main observable phenomenon.
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It's the planets that emit the pulses. I am talking on a higher level and so is Apollo. Eventually science which is just another religion, will admit this.
 Quoting: mindfrac


CORRECT! Modern Science is the religion of atheism
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Thanks for this thread.


I understand how plasma works.

It could be one hell of a lightening storm....

And now I am intrigued with the blood side of things.

Please keep going.

About 2 years ago mum and I were talking and we both agreed that it all (universe) runs on magnetism...

Just didn't exactly know how till now.

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G'day F/E, long time.

If you go by the Ruskie's inerton theory, then a solar flux transfer is just a larger 'field' of interaction.

Makes the Sun or the Earth the transducer then eh?

Arent you stoked to be living in a time when we seem so close to bursting open new ideas on how it all works?
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And the fact we have to rely on the sun for vitamin D for every day function at genetic/dna level.

[link to www.biochemj.org]

[link to pandemicsurvivor.com]

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

Remarkable when you think about it when you connect dots relating to the sun.
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Plasmare, I've been reading your stuff for a while and appreciate the time and work you put into it. 90% of the people who hit the reply button are jerkoffs. 90% of the people who don't hit the reply button are people interested in learning, knowing, and understanding.
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You have been wasting you time and having you mind filled with useless non information,
search post by 'Anonymous Astrophysicist" and you will get a much more accurate and intelligent analysis of all of these phenomenon. The problem is they are all trying to explain observations based on concepts which are false, unproved and credulous. The universe is electric. It has electromagnetic fields, ferrous core celestial bodies, charges particles , and flows of electrons that are it's main observable phenomenon.
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Thanks for your advice, but if you would kindly fuck off, I'll make my own decision on what I choose to read.

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Plasmare, I've been reading your stuff for a while and appreciate the time and work you put into it. 90% of the people who hit the reply button are jerkoffs. 90% of the people who don't hit the reply button are people interested in learning, knowing, and understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428203


You have been wasting you time and having you mind filled with useless non information,
search post by 'Anonymous Astrophysicist" and you will get a much more accurate and intelligent analysis of all of these phenomenon. The problem is they are all trying to explain observations based on concepts which are false, unproved and credulous. The universe is electric. It has electromagnetic fields, ferrous core celestial bodies, charges particles , and flows of electrons that are it's main observable phenomenon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1113057


Thanks for your advice, but if you would kindly fuck off, I'll make my own decision on what I choose to read.

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Same here. I;ve seen "mainstream" academic people fuck up big times... I mean really big time...
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It's the planets that emit the pulses. I am talking on a higher level and so is Apollo. Eventually science which is just another religion, will admit this.
 Quoting: mindfrac


CORRECT! Modern Science is the religion of atheism
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No. You just have massive ego.

Perhaps you need to take an advice from Leedskalnin- [link to www.leedskalnin.com]

You know we receive an education in the schools from books. All those books that people became educated from twenty-five years ago, are wrong now, and those that are good now, will be wrong again twenty-five years from now. So if they are wrong then, they are also wrong now, and the one who is educated from the wrong books is not educated, he is misled. All books that are written are wrong, the one who is not educated cannot write a book and the one who is educated, is really not educated but he is misled and the one who is misled cannot write a book which is correct.

The misleading began when our distant ancestors began to teach their descendants. You know they knew nothing but they passed their knowledge of nothing to the coming generations and it went so innocently that nobody noticed it. That is why we are not educated.

Now I will tell you what education is according to my reasoning. An educated person is one whose senses are refined. We are born as brutes, we remain and die as the same if we do not become polished. But all senses do not take polish. Some are to coarse to take it. The main base of education is one's "self-respect". Any one lacking self-respect cannot be educated. The main bases of self-respect is the willingness to learn, to do only the things that are good and right, to believe only in the things that can be proved, to possess appreciation and self control.

Now, if you lack willingness to learn, you will remain as a brute and if you do things that are not good and right, you will be a low person, and if you believe in things that cannot be proved, any feeble minded person can lead you, and if you lack appreciation, it takes away the incentive for good doing and if you lack self control you will never know the limit.

So all those lacking these characteristics in their makeup are not educated.

Ed Leedskalnin, 1936.
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G'day F/E, long time.

If you go by the Ruskie's inerton theory, then a solar flux transfer is just a larger 'field' of interaction.

Makes the Sun or the Earth the transducer then eh?

Arent you stoked to be living in a time when we seem so close to bursting open new ideas on how it all works?
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Hey BHD!

It's a long distance to transfer
however much energy is involved
and the fact it travels at all
suggests a 'balancing' of charges
taking place fairly rythmically...
I believe I read somewhere about
every 8 minutes?? That'd make about
180 such events on a daily basis.

Does their frequency and intensity
fluctuate with the plasma density
levels in the space between earth
and our star?

Sure is a great time to be alive!

cheers
 Quoting: fellowearthling


Yes, they found that the sun is connected to the Earth, at least our upper atmosphere is, via these "flux tubes". They give them terms but don't really understand what they are. I understand them as magnetic tunnels that allow the solar wind to stream into the poles and around the magnetosphere. Maybe the radiation belts too. The process of solar wind interaction with our atmosphere is itself not understood, they have no idea why we lose atmosphere and what happens to the plasma injected into it. It is very like a balance of charges. But plasma is relatively new in physics and there is still much to learn and understand how it all fits together, and it plays a major role in our atmosphere and therefore our climate and weather. So I find it laughable how they tried to perpetuate the global warming myth when in reality they know so very little about our climate they can barely predict the weather for the next day. If we understood it all then we can predict the weather far longer in advance and with extremely high accuracy, the more accurate and complete our understanding, the more accurate the predictions. When we understand something completely we can predict the outcome 100% of the time unless there are variables we can't observe.

The thing about plasma is it can be in 3 modes, invisible/dark mode where it is able to absorb EM frequencies due to dust, glow mode where it emits EM frequencies (like the sun and neon lamps) and discharge mode (lightning) where it discharges free electrons as sparks. What makes things even more complex is that any matter can be in the state of plasma and all plasmas have varying characteristics like density, temperature, number of electrons, the elements that comprise the plasma, the distribution and so much more. That is why it is so hard to create models for it. The calculations alone require some of the most powerful super computers to simulate.

The sun is an example of a dense plasma in glow mode, the solar wind is an example of a low density plasma in dark mode, CMEs are an example of a variable density (usually high) plasma in dark mode. There's plenty of youtube videos showing plasma in discharge mode, like plasma speakers. ALL plasmas emit electromagnetic radiation, that is why planets like Jupiter emit radio waves, why the sun and lightning emit all sorts of frequencies ranging from radio to gamma ray. Lightning is known to produce x-rays and sometimes gamma rays. Thunderstorms are known to accelerate particles into space and generate gamma ray flashes called terrestrial gamma ray flashes.

The very fact that 99.9% of the visible universe itself needs to be acknowledged by people outside the nuclear and plasma physics communities in order to begin to understand the universe and create a functional model of cosmology.
 Quoting: Plasmare


If thunderstorms eject particles into space wouldnt that be an example of one way that the earth loses particles? The atmosphere is made of particles right?
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Plasmare, I've been reading your stuff for a while and appreciate the time and work you put into it. 90% of the people who hit the reply button are jerkoffs. 90% of the people who don't hit the reply button are people interested in learning, knowing, and understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428203


You have been wasting you time and having you mind filled with useless non information,
search post by 'Anonymous Astrophysicist" and you will get a much more accurate and intelligent analysis of all of these phenomenon. The problem is they are all trying to explain observations based on concepts which are false, unproved and credulous. The universe is electric. It has electromagnetic fields, ferrous core celestial bodies, charges particles , and flows of electrons that are it's main observable phenomenon.
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Thanks for your advice, but if you would kindly fuck off, I'll make my own decision on what I choose to read.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428203


No sorry, i'm not going anywhere. This man is a hack and has no idea what h';s talking about and the only reason you find him interesting is because you are in exactly the same boat. Charge particles react to magnetic fields, there is no big mystery that magnetic fields are present in plasma, it does not mean plasma creates them. The one exception is in the presence of ferrous ions, which are common throughout the universe



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To Plasmare, SickScent and everyone else who’s in on Solar System moving through LIC and the potential - and indeed already observable - consequence of that. Hope you already caught the latest piece of news from IBEX team:

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Things to take notice of, imho:

"We've directly measured four separate types of atoms from interstellar space and the composition just doesn't match up with what we see in the solar system," says Eric Christian, mission scientist for IBEX at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "IBEX's observations shed a whole new light on the mysterious zone where the solar system ends and interstellar space begins."

In a series of science papers appearing in the Astrophysics Journal on January 31, 2012, scientists report that for every 20 neon atoms in the galactic wind, there are 74 oxygen atoms. In our own solar system, however, for every 20 neon atoms there are 111 oxygen atoms. That translates to more oxygen in any given slice of the solar system than in the local interstellar space.

"Our solar system is different than the space right outside it and that suggests two possibilities," says David McComas the principal investigator for IBEX at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas. "Either the solar system evolved in a separate, more oxygen-rich part of the galaxy than where we currently reside or a great deal of critical, life-giving oxygen lies trapped in interstellar dust grains or ices, unable to move freely throughout space." Either way, this affects scientific models of how our solar system – and life – formed.
Previous spacecraft have already provided some information about the way the galactic wind interacts with the heliosheath. Ulysses, for one, observed incoming helium as it traveled past Jupiter and measured it traveling at 59,000 miles per hour. IBEX's new information, however, shows the galactic wind traveling not only at a slower speed -- around 52,000 miles per hour -- but from a different direction, most likely offset by some four degrees from previous measurements. Such a difference may not initially seem significant, but it amounts to a full 20% difference in how much pressure the galactic wind exerts on the heliosphere.
These IBEX measurements also provide information about the cloud of material in which the solar system currently resides. This cloud is called the local interstellar cloud, to differentiate it from the myriad of particle clouds throughout the Milky Way, each traveling at different speeds. The solar system and its heliosphere moved into our local cloud at some point during the last 45,000 years.
Since the older Ulysses observations of the galactic wind speed was in between the speeds expected for the local cloud and the adjacent cloud, researchers thought perhaps the solar system didn't lie smack in the middle of this cloud, but might be at the boundary, transitioning into a new region of space. IBEX's results, however, show that we remain fully in the local cloud, at least for the moment.

"Sometime in the next hundred to few thousand years, the blink of an eye on the timescales of the galaxy, our heliosphere should leave the local interstellar cloud and encounter a much different galactic environment," McComas says".


What gives?

Solar system is slowing down on it's way through LIC. You are talking about a huge difference in terms of speed measured in a relatively short period of time between 1992 (Ulysses) and 2011 (IBEX).
This should be all over mainstream media, describing the changes in the world around us. Where is it instead? On a frigging C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y site.
Ask your friends/relatives about Solar system moving through “Local interstellar cloud”.
They’ll give you a “WTF are you a total loon” kind of look and go back to being sheepled by MSM propaganda/dumb down/hate machine.

…and I think to myself what a wonderful world.
Don't you?
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It's the planets that emit the pulses. I am talking on a higher level and so is Apollo. Eventually science which is just another religion, will admit this.
 Quoting: mindfrac


CORRECT! Modern Science is the religion of atheism
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1113057


No. You just have massive ego.

Perhaps you need to take an advice from Leedskalnin- [link to www.leedskalnin.com]

You know we receive an education in the schools from books. All those books that people became educated from twenty-five years ago, are wrong now, and those that are good now, will be wrong again twenty-five years from now. So if they are wrong then, they are also wrong now, and the one who is educated from the wrong books is not educated, he is misled. All books that are written are wrong, the one who is not educated cannot write a book and the one who is educated, is really not educated but he is misled and the one who is misled cannot write a book which is correct.

The misleading began when our distant ancestors began to teach their descendants. You know they knew nothing but they passed their knowledge of nothing to the coming generations and it went so innocently that nobody noticed it. That is why we are not educated.

Now I will tell you what education is according to my reasoning. An educated person is one whose senses are refined. We are born as brutes, we remain and die as the same if we do not become polished. But all senses do not take polish. Some are to coarse to take it. The main base of education is one's "self-respect". Any one lacking self-respect cannot be educated. The main bases of self-respect is the willingness to learn, to do only the things that are good and right, to believe only in the things that can be proved, to possess appreciation and self control.

Now, if you lack willingness to learn, you will remain as a brute and if you do things that are not good and right, you will be a low person, and if you believe in things that cannot be proved, any feeble minded person can lead you, and if you lack appreciation, it takes away the incentive for good doing and if you lack self control you will never know the limit.

So all those lacking these characteristics in their makeup are not educated.

Ed Leedskalnin, 1936.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Oddly enough i agree with Leedskalnin and have said exactly the same thing without ever reading his his quote.

In My opinion an education is observing and interpreting the facts we do know, and certainly not relying on what someone else has postulated without solid proof. I still maintain that modern science is a religion that's main goal is to explain the universe in the absence of a creator. Are you an atheist?

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