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Scientists finally admit plasma is responsible for magnetic fields in space!

 
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To Plasmare, SickScent and everyone else who’s in on Solar System moving through LIC and the potential - and indeed already observable - consequence of that. Hope you already caught the latest piece of news from IBEX team:

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Things to take notice of, imho:

"We've directly measured four separate types of atoms from interstellar space and the composition just doesn't match up with what we see in the solar system," says Eric Christian, mission scientist for IBEX at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "IBEX's observations shed a whole new light on the mysterious zone where the solar system ends and interstellar space begins."

In a series of science papers appearing in the Astrophysics Journal on January 31, 2012, scientists report that for every 20 neon atoms in the galactic wind, there are 74 oxygen atoms. In our own solar system, however, for every 20 neon atoms there are 111 oxygen atoms. That translates to more oxygen in any given slice of the solar system than in the local interstellar space.

"Our solar system is different than the space right outside it and that suggests two possibilities," says David McComas the principal investigator for IBEX at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas. "Either the solar system evolved in a separate, more oxygen-rich part of the galaxy than where we currently reside or a great deal of critical, life-giving oxygen lies trapped in interstellar dust grains or ices, unable to move freely throughout space." Either way, this affects scientific models of how our solar system – and life – formed.
Previous spacecraft have already provided some information about the way the galactic wind interacts with the heliosheath. Ulysses, for one, observed incoming helium as it traveled past Jupiter and measured it traveling at 59,000 miles per hour. IBEX's new information, however, shows the galactic wind traveling not only at a slower speed -- around 52,000 miles per hour -- but from a different direction, most likely offset by some four degrees from previous measurements. Such a difference may not initially seem significant, but it amounts to a full 20% difference in how much pressure the galactic wind exerts on the heliosphere.
These IBEX measurements also provide information about the cloud of material in which the solar system currently resides. This cloud is called the local interstellar cloud, to differentiate it from the myriad of particle clouds throughout the Milky Way, each traveling at different speeds. The solar system and its heliosphere moved into our local cloud at some point during the last 45,000 years.
Since the older Ulysses observations of the galactic wind speed was in between the speeds expected for the local cloud and the adjacent cloud, researchers thought perhaps the solar system didn't lie smack in the middle of this cloud, but might be at the boundary, transitioning into a new region of space. IBEX's results, however, show that we remain fully in the local cloud, at least for the moment.

"Sometime in the next hundred to few thousand years, the blink of an eye on the timescales of the galaxy, our heliosphere should leave the local interstellar cloud and encounter a much different galactic environment," McComas says".


What gives?

Solar system is slowing down on it's way through LIC. You are talking about a huge difference in terms of speed measured in a relatively short period of time between 1992 (Ulysses) and 2011 (IBEX).
This should be all over mainstream media, describing the changes in the world around us. Where is it instead? On a frigging C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y site.
Ask your friends/relatives about Solar system moving through “Local interstellar cloud”.
They’ll give you a “WTF are you a total loon” kind of look and go back to being sheepled by MSM propaganda/dumb down/hate machine.

…and I think to myself what a wonderful world.
Don't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331736


WE are entering the galactic plane, into more denser areas of plasma. I predicted this ten years ago, I strongly suggest anyone really interested in what is actually happening search my threads and read them thoroughly. These men are hacks, Palsmere and Astronut. They are pea brains
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{b]Yes, they found that the sun is connected to the Earth, at least our upper atmosphere is, via these "flux tubes". They give them terms but don't really understand what they are. I understand them as magnetic tunnels that allow the solar wind to stream into the poles and around the magnetosphere. Maybe the radiation belts too. The process of solar wind interaction with our atmosphere is itself not understood, they have no idea why we lose atmosphere and what happens to the plasma injected into it. It is very like a balance of charges. But plasma is relatively new in physics and there is still much to learn and understand how it all fits together, and it plays a major role in our atmosphere and therefore our climate and weather. So I find it laughable how they tried to perpetuate the global warming myth when in reality they know so very little about our climate they can barely predict the weather for the next day. If we understood it all then we can predict the weather far longer in advance and with extremely high accuracy, the more accurate and complete our understanding, the more accurate the predictions. When we understand something completely we can predict the outcome 100% of the time unless there are variables we can't observe.


"They" fund nothing, this is my work stolen by a nose with a name.
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Plasmare, I've been reading your stuff for a while and appreciate the time and work you put into it. 90% of the people who hit the reply button are jerkoffs. 90% of the people who don't hit the reply button are people interested in learning, knowing, and understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428203


You have been wasting you time and having you mind filled with useless non information,
search post by 'Anonymous Astrophysicist" and you will get a much more accurate and intelligent analysis of all of these phenomenon. The problem is they are all trying to explain observations based on concepts which are false, unproved and credulous. The universe is electric. It has electromagnetic fields, ferrous core celestial bodies, charges particles , and flows of electrons that are it's main observable phenomenon.
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Thanks for your advice, but if you would kindly fuck off, I'll make my own decision on what I choose to read.

</back to obscurity>
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Same here. I;ve seen "mainstream" academic people fuck up big times... I mean really big time...
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I certainly hope you are not talking to me and referring to me s
mainstream'. If you are you're tard. I don't follow, I lead. Many of my ideas have been stolen on websites just like this and published under someone else's name, but they always go against the current of the mainstream.

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To Plasmare, SickScent and everyone else who’s in on Solar System moving through LIC and the potential - and indeed already observable - consequence of that. Hope you already caught the latest piece of news from IBEX team:

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Things to take notice of, imho:

"We've directly measured four separate types of atoms from interstellar space and the composition just doesn't match up with what we see in the solar system," says Eric Christian, mission scientist for IBEX at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "IBEX's observations shed a whole new light on the mysterious zone where the solar system ends and interstellar space begins."

In a series of science papers appearing in the Astrophysics Journal on January 31, 2012, scientists report that for every 20 neon atoms in the galactic wind, there are 74 oxygen atoms. In our own solar system, however, for every 20 neon atoms there are 111 oxygen atoms. That translates to more oxygen in any given slice of the solar system than in the local interstellar space.

"Our solar system is different than the space right outside it and that suggests two possibilities," says David McComas the principal investigator for IBEX at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas. "Either the solar system evolved in a separate, more oxygen-rich part of the galaxy than where we currently reside or a great deal of critical, life-giving oxygen lies trapped in interstellar dust grains or ices, unable to move freely throughout space." Either way, this affects scientific models of how our solar system – and life – formed.
Previous spacecraft have already provided some information about the way the galactic wind interacts with the heliosheath. Ulysses, for one, observed incoming helium as it traveled past Jupiter and measured it traveling at 59,000 miles per hour. IBEX's new information, however, shows the galactic wind traveling not only at a slower speed -- around 52,000 miles per hour -- but from a different direction, most likely offset by some four degrees from previous measurements. Such a difference may not initially seem significant, but it amounts to a full 20% difference in how much pressure the galactic wind exerts on the heliosphere.
These IBEX measurements also provide information about the cloud of material in which the solar system currently resides. This cloud is called the local interstellar cloud, to differentiate it from the myriad of particle clouds throughout the Milky Way, each traveling at different speeds. The solar system and its heliosphere moved into our local cloud at some point during the last 45,000 years.
Since the older Ulysses observations of the galactic wind speed was in between the speeds expected for the local cloud and the adjacent cloud, researchers thought perhaps the solar system didn't lie smack in the middle of this cloud, but might be at the boundary, transitioning into a new region of space. IBEX's results, however, show that we remain fully in the local cloud, at least for the moment.

"Sometime in the next hundred to few thousand years, the blink of an eye on the timescales of the galaxy, our heliosphere should leave the local interstellar cloud and encounter a much different galactic environment," McComas says".


What gives?

Solar system is slowing down on it's way through LIC. You are talking about a huge difference in terms of speed measured in a relatively short period of time between 1992 (Ulysses) and 2011 (IBEX).
This should be all over mainstream media, describing the changes in the world around us. Where is it instead? On a frigging C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y site.
Ask your friends/relatives about Solar system moving through “Local interstellar cloud”.
They’ll give you a “WTF are you a total loon” kind of look and go back to being sheepled by MSM propaganda/dumb down/hate machine.

…and I think to myself what a wonderful world.
Don't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1331736


Glad I stopped again to check GLP. Ask any scientist in the field studying these clouds and they will all give you difference answers as to when we're going to transition into another region of the cloud. However they all say that it can happen between NOW (or already has) and the future.

However they will also all agree that any change in the solar environment will cause a change in the Earth's environment, so logically, if our environment has already began to change... I'm sure you can work it out.

Ignore the coward astrobullshitter. They constantly try their best to bring up straw men and use various logical fallacies to poison the well, distract from the topic and destroy and discussion. I suggest people stay away from the highly disturbed and psychosis prone individual(s). It's either a paid poster or a deranged person. Either way they just lie and don't understand anything. The choice is yours but just be aware of those facts.

Thanks for your support guys, glad there are people who appreciate the truth these days. Even if we don't understand it all yet.
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Re: Scientists finally admit plasma is responsible for magnetic fields in space!
Me, me, me, I have an ego, I am delusional, I have delusions of grandeur, I predicted everything, I know nothing and claim to know everything, I am never wrong but always get proven wrong. Blah, blah, blah. I have a small brain and a small penis. Look at me, don't look at the post, it's all about ME. I am a wanker. Baa, baa, baa, follow me, believe me, trust me when I lie to you.


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Edited for truth.
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Me, me, me, I have an ego, I am delusional, I have delusions of grandeur, I predicted everything, I know nothing and claim to know everything, I am never wrong but always get proven wrong. Blah, blah, blah. I have a small brain and a small penis. Look at me, don't look at the post, it's all about ME. I am a wanker. Baa, baa, baa, follow me, believe me, trust me when I lie to you.


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Edited for truth.
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laugh 1rof1
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Just remembered that we always losing atmosphere, so the abundance of oxygen within the heliosphere could simply be from Earth.

Essentially, the solar wind interacting with the Earth's magnetic field transfers some of its energy into the upper atmosphere in the polar regions. The auroras that are visible at high latitudes are one manifestation of this transfer. But it also heats up atmospheric ions enough that they escape up out of the poles, forming Earth's "polar ion outflows."

"The magnetic field is an obstacle to the solar wind, but it is also a funnel," Strangeway says. The effect of the solar wind on Earth is less uniform than on Mars and Venus, but apparently the net loss rate is about the same.

Mars, Earth, and Venus. Only Earth has an active magnetosphere, yet all three worlds are losing their atmospheres at similar rates.

"Right now the rates for the three planets are about the same for certain ions," Luhmann says. "No one is debating that."

Other ions besides oxygen have been measured escaping into space, such as ionized carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide molecules, which also include oxygen. Hydrogen ions are also being lost, but they are difficult to distinguish from solar wind protons.

Even so, researchers assume that approximately two hydrogen atoms escape for each oxygen. (The reasoning is that if this were not the case, the atmosphere would have long ago turned highly oxidative or reductive). The net effect is the loss of H2O molecules.
[link to www.space.com]
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It's the planets that emit the pulses. I am talking on a higher level and so is Apollo. Eventually science which is just another religion, will admit this.
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CORRECT! Modern Science is the religion of atheism
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1113057


No. You just have massive ego.

Perhaps you need to take an advice from Leedskalnin- [link to www.leedskalnin.com]

You know we receive an education in the schools from books. All those books that people became educated from twenty-five years ago, are wrong now, and those that are good now, will be wrong again twenty-five years from now. So if they are wrong then, they are also wrong now, and the one who is educated from the wrong books is not educated, he is misled. All books that are written are wrong, the one who is not educated cannot write a book and the one who is educated, is really not educated but he is misled and the one who is misled cannot write a book which is correct.

The misleading began when our distant ancestors began to teach their descendants. You know they knew nothing but they passed their knowledge of nothing to the coming generations and it went so innocently that nobody noticed it. That is why we are not educated.

Now I will tell you what education is according to my reasoning. An educated person is one whose senses are refined. We are born as brutes, we remain and die as the same if we do not become polished. But all senses do not take polish. Some are to coarse to take it. The main base of education is one's "self-respect". Any one lacking self-respect cannot be educated. The main bases of self-respect is the willingness to learn, to do only the things that are good and right, to believe only in the things that can be proved, to possess appreciation and self control.

Now, if you lack willingness to learn, you will remain as a brute and if you do things that are not good and right, you will be a low person, and if you believe in things that cannot be proved, any feeble minded person can lead you, and if you lack appreciation, it takes away the incentive for good doing and if you lack self control you will never know the limit.

So all those lacking these characteristics in their makeup are not educated.

Ed Leedskalnin, 1936.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Oddly enough i agree with Leedskalnin and have said exactly the same thing without ever reading his his quote.

In My opinion an education is observing and interpreting the facts we do know, and certainly not relying on what someone else has postulated without solid proof. I still maintain that modern science is a religion that's main goal is to explain the universe in the absence of a creator. Are you an atheist?
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Atheist crap is way overrated crap even though I barely ever step in Church for Sunday services in my life. I just see things differently than most atheists.
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You have been wasting you time and having you mind filled with useless non information,
search post by 'Anonymous Astrophysicist" and you will get a much more accurate and intelligent analysis of all of these phenomenon. The problem is they are all trying to explain observations based on concepts which are false, unproved and credulous. The universe is electric. It has electromagnetic fields, ferrous core celestial bodies, charges particles , and flows of electrons that are it's main observable phenomenon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1113057


Thanks for your advice, but if you would kindly fuck off, I'll make my own decision on what I choose to read.

</back to obscurity>
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Same here. I;ve seen "mainstream" academic people fuck up big times... I mean really big time...
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


I certainly hope you are not talking to me and referring to me s
mainstream'. If you are you're tard. I don't follow, I lead. Many of my ideas have been stolen on websites just like this and published under someone else's name, but they always go against the current of the mainstream.

cruise
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1) Dermatologists scaring everybody over sun. Where do we get vitamin D from? The sun? What do we use to fight cancer? Vitamin D. They made everything much worse for everybody. - [link to www.biochemj.org]

2)Saturated fat and cholesterol consumption causing heart disease ... flat out wrong. We ended up consuming way more "fat" free food aka mostly sugar/carbohydrate food/drink believing that it won't make them fat but it did...

3) Archaeology... For some reason, they refuse to believe that we were never that advanced in the past so they always look for most primitive things overlooking many clues. One example Granite objects at pyramids and temple. Very hard stone to work on. Guess what we have to use these days? [link to www.weltonrotz.com] Why is the pyramids built so accurately? Surely, it cannot be a tomb... [link to www.gizapower.com]

See what I mean? So called experts will always overlook something because they were taught to look the other way. You may be committing a fatal mistake by calling others stupid, etc.
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Speakers and presenters of the new findings from IBEX.

David McComas, IBEX principal investigator and assistant vice president of the Space Science and Engineering Division at Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, TX., USA

Priscilla Frisch, Senior Scientist, Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics at the University of Chicago, IL., USA
[link to astro.uchicago.edu]

Eberhard Möbius, Professor, Space Science Center and Department of Physics University of New Hampshire and currently visiting professor at the Space Science and Applications Group Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM., USA

Seth Redfield, Assistant Professor, Astronomy Department, Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT., USA
[link to sredfield.web.wesleyan.edu]


As found on [link to www.nasa.gov]

Also contains all up, 17 images/videos for those who require visual aids to understand the information. Very helpful. Links to IBEX members webpages my own and contain very useful information. Frisch has many papers which outline various scenarios of an immersion in various plasma clouds.
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One thing about it...it wasn't that long ago that scientists dogmatically agreed the world was flat. This is what happens when small minds try to figure out a big universe.
"Glory is what happens when faith overcomes adversity."
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I don't understand any of this and have nothing to add but to criticize the scientific establishment. I don't have to be here but for some reason I am here arguing that science is wrong and you should believe or you will go to hell. Which is where I belong. I don't understand that people can be wrong and that science, unlike religion, is not afraid of being wrong because that is how we LEARN. I don't like to learn, only believe. What am I doing in this thread again?
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Edited for truth.
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Speakers and presenters of the new findings from IBEX.

David McComas, IBEX principal investigator and assistant vice president of the Space Science and Engineering Division at Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, TX., USA

Priscilla Frisch, Senior Scientist, Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics at the University of Chicago, IL., USA
[link to astro.uchicago.edu]

Eberhard Möbius, Professor, Space Science Center and Department of Physics University of New Hampshire and currently visiting professor at the Space Science and Applications Group Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM., USA

Seth Redfield, Assistant Professor, Astronomy Department, Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT., USA
[link to sredfield.web.wesleyan.edu]


As found on [link to www.nasa.gov]

Also contains all up, 17 images/videos for those who require visual aids to understand the information. Very helpful. Links to IBEX members webpages my own and contain very useful information. Frisch has many papers which outline various scenarios of an immersion in various plasma clouds.
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Thanks for the links... even though you gave me negative karma... Good job!

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God: "Baffling isn't it? "

Scientists: "Baffling? In fact it's downright bewildering, along with those Snowy Owls."
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Excellent, plasma is the artistic medium of the universe, create what thou will
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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What the fuck do scientists know?
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LOL Who else are you gonna listen to? TV Evangelists? Conservative politicians? Oh wait - they're both anti-science. Nevermind...
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I don't understand any of this and have nothing to add but to criticize the scientific establishment. I don't have to be here but for some reason I am here arguing that science is wrong and you should believe or you will go to hell. Which is where I belong. I don't understand that people can be wrong and that science, unlike religion, is not afraid of being wrong because that is how we LEARN. I don't like to learn, only believe. What am I doing in this thread again?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Edited for truth.
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You are a pea brained smart ass with a huge ego and a tiny intellect who knows nothing about science. The two together are nauseating . You are a blowhard who uses mainstream science websites and sources to create the false illusion that you do know something (we're just not sure what it is ) and sources to say absolutely nothing that makes any sense
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One thing about it...it wasn't that long ago that scientists dogmatically agreed the world was flat. This is what happens when small minds try to figure out a big universe.
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Mainstream science has never been right about anything, it is a infallible pattern , because people with 'special interests' decide what is published as fact
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What the fuck do scientists know?
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LOL Who else are you gonna listen to? TV Evangelists? Conservative politicians? Oh wait - they're both anti-science. Nevermind...
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All three are just as credible to me.....ZIPPO
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One thing about it...it wasn't that long ago that scientists dogmatically agreed the world was flat. This is what happens when small minds try to figure out a big universe.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Mainstream science has never been right about anything, it is a infallible pattern , because people with 'special interests' decide what is published as fact
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1113057


Do you know Dr. Michael Brooks , he seems to agree with you even though I would consider him mainstream myself. It seems a trend of non conformity may be evolving, that would be something.I appreciate the conflict of this thread it allows for one to look for their own truth which opens up more avenues for personal discovery. Everyone has put valuable effort forward! Thanks!
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan
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I don't understand any of this and have nothing to add but to criticize the scientific establishment. I don't have to be here but for some reason I am here arguing that science is wrong and you should believe or you will go to hell. Which is where I belong. I don't understand that people can be wrong and that science, unlike religion, is not afraid of being wrong because that is how we LEARN. I don't like to learn, only believe. What am I doing in this thread again?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Edited for truth.
 Quoting: Plasmare


You are a pea brained smart ass with a huge ego and a tiny intellect who knows nothing about science. The two together are nauseating . You are a blowhard who uses mainstream science websites and sources to create the false illusion that you do know something (we're just not sure what it is ) and sources to say absolutely nothing that makes any sense
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113057


Sorry you're mistaken, once again. I have no ego nor do I need one. I'm not the one constantly talking about myself, you are. I'm only presenting information to people and trying to put it in a way most people can understand correctly and not misunderstand. You must have a lot of self doubt and insecurities if you can't even take a joke and take it so seriously.

Who is "we"? Why do you constantly lie and spread misinformation? What is your purpose here exactly? Why do you promote fear and confusion? There's a reason why I don't TELL people what I know and understand, because I want people to see it for themselves. I don't tell people how to think or what to think as you do. I just want people to think about the information I present. All you do is make people doubt and confuse them and the validity of the information. Most of the information here is not mainstream at all. If it was, everyone would know about it.
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Discovered by a German astronomer in 1950, the Biermann process predicts that a magnetic field can spring up spontaneously from nothing more than the motion of charged particles. Plasma, or charged particle gas, is abundant in space.

Scientists believe that large clouds of gas collapsing into galaxies sent elliptically shaped bubbles of shockwaves through the early universe, touching off flows of electric current in the plasma of the intergalactic medium.

Anyone who has built an electromagnet in middle school science class is familiar with this concept, Drake said.

"If you can make current flow, you make a magnetic field," Drake said.

The question in astrophysics was what could have generated the current. This experiment demonstrated that such asymmetrical shockwaves could do the job.

[link to www.physorg.com]

It's about time they began to take plasma cosmology seriously and stop believing in the creation myth that is the standard theory of the big bang.
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lolol YES! And a point of pure nothingness inside stars causes planets to form through polarization. this and magnetic boundaries.
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Re: Scientists finally admit plasma is responsible for magnetic fields in space!
So for those who still don't see it, plasma = spirit, solar wind, interstellar wind, the sun, all plasma.

Spirit (Heb. ruah ; Gr. pneuma ), properly wind or breath. The breath of stars, the wind of the universe. Without it there would be no life. Therefore it can be considered the breath of life. Unlike the cacophony of definitions it has because of the various mistranslations and beliefs associated with it, spirit should only have one meaning and until the discovery of plasma no one could put forward a real definition of it.

I'm not religious at all and those that are would probably disagree but that is how I see it. Just food for thought.

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So for those who still don't see it, plasma = spirit, solar wind, interstellar wind, the sun, all plasma.

Spirit (Heb. ruah ; Gr. pneuma ), properly wind or breath. The breath of stars, the wind of the universe. Without it there would be no life. Therefore it can be considered the breath of life. Unlike the cacophony of definitions it has because of the various mistranslations and beliefs associated with it, spirit should only have one meaning and until the discovery of plasma no one could put forward a real definition of it.

I'm not religious at all and those that are would probably disagree but that is how I see it. Just food for thought.
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I don't buy into it all so much, but I do believe that everything is everything and everything is not separate from everything.
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If you pass a Conductor Through a Magnetic Field you Generate Electricity.

Tesla showed us how to generate cheap electric power, but monopoly capitalists like JP morgan wouldn't allow the devices to be developed.


The energy Cartel wants you to keep paying an Electricity Bill.
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Re: Scientists finally admit plasma is responsible for magnetic fields in space!
If you pass a Conductor Through a Magnetic Field you Generate Electricity.

Tesla showed us how to generate cheap electric power, but monopoly capitalists like JP morgan wouldn't allow the devices to be developed.


The energy Cartel wants you to keep paying an Electricity Bill.
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They should have large types of these things that use inertia to power them. like set them up like huge in a row somewhere and power them by dropping them down a zip line type of apparatus.
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However they will also all agree that any change in the solar environment will cause a change in the Earth's environment, so logically, if our environment has already began to change... I'm sure you can work it out.


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so maybe it was decided some decades ago (when some scientists knew that we would pass through a denser region of the LIC) that Global Warming should be used to hide this fact??

I always wondered why somebody would make up AGW, but in this context it would actually make sense. What better way to hide inescapable earth changes??

Anybody else thought about this?
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Re: Scientists finally admit plasma is responsible for magnetic fields in space!
So for those who still don't see it, plasma = spirit, solar wind, interstellar wind, the sun, all plasma.

Spirit (Heb. ruah ; Gr. pneuma ), properly wind or breath. The breath of stars, the wind of the universe. Without it there would be no life. Therefore it can be considered the breath of life. Unlike the cacophony of definitions it has because of the various mistranslations and beliefs associated with it, spirit should only have one meaning and until the discovery of plasma no one could put forward a real definition of it.

I'm not religious at all and those that are would probably disagree but that is how I see it. Just food for thought.
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I don't buy into it all so much, but I do believe that everything is everything and everything is not separate from everything.
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No need to believe... plasma is what connects us to the universe and everything in the universe is connected through plasma. That's an observable fact. 99.9% of the observable universe is a plasma that is all connected. You just can't see it with your eyes, but it is there, no belief required.



Everything people call space is NOT empty. You can visualize them as oceans of plasma with clouds drifting around.
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Re: Scientists finally admit plasma is responsible for magnetic fields in space!

However they will also all agree that any change in the solar environment will cause a change in the Earth's environment, so logically, if our environment has already began to change... I'm sure you can work it out.


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so maybe it was decided some decades ago (when some scientists knew that we would pass through a denser region of the LIC) that Global Warming should be used to hide this fact??

I always wondered why somebody would make up AGW, but in this context it would actually make sense. What better way to hide inescapable earth changes??

Anybody else thought about this?
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Yes, I have many threads about that idea. I came to the conclusion that instead of telling people about something out of their control is causing climate change, they allowed people to think that they are responsible for the changing of the climate. That way they allow people to feel guilty and to think that they can "fix" it. Haven't you noticed no official source calls it global warming anymore? Have not for years, only people do. They call it climate change now. No one even noticed the transition of the terms being changed.

So now whenever anyone talks about a changing climate, people automatically think of global warming. Mental manipulation. No one ever thinks to think what the real causes of climate change are and no one ever talks about how in the past, every 'sudden" climate change event "coincided" with mass extinctions. And by sudden I mean anywhere between overnight and a few decades, which by geological standards is very sudden.
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Trying to help people understand what is going on and what is coming seems like a waste of time. Those that do get it, keep going. Believe nothing and learn, know and understand.


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Plasmare, this is the most interesting thread. Thank you !

You said you desire for people to think for themselves and we have to to make it through whateverthefuck is happening on planet earth now.

What did you mean by the above?

It feels to me plasma is the great connector.

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