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I can understand the time travel part of the OP and being able to see future events although not being able to put an exact date on them. This WOULD explain a lot.

9-11 though doesn't quite fit. They had intel that the hijackers were in the country so 9-11-01 was a pretty safe bet that it was the correct "9-11". Why not stop it? What kind of consequences would there have been in avoiding that tragedy? Other than not being able to pass draconian legislation and starting decades of Middle East war I don't see a reason.

The OP's theory suggests that we can see the future but can do nothing to stop it. I don't buy into that. The military has been developing and using both clairvoyants and psychics for years.

So yes, I believe there's a good possibility that we have seen glimpses of the future and have used said glimpses to be in the right place at the right time. I also believe they have used those glimpses to draw up a map as to how the population would be governed and allowed events to happen to suit their agenda. Possibly even aiding those events (such as 9-11) to make sure they happened.

In short I believe the future is dynamic and not set in stone.
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This opens up a much deeper line of thought and this rabbit hole goes very, very deep indeed.

I posted a topic on here before about 2012 being the year that the duality of timelines merge for the very reason that is was from this year that we altered history and the timelines both meet at the point of creation. It would explain why the looking glass cannot see any further into the future than Dec 2012.

I theorised that we will either become conscious of a duel timeline (as above, so below) or we become conscious of our entire time-line on this plant stretching back though all our lives in the last 30,000 years.
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I further hypnotise that this would make sense because the global population has been kept within an almost exact size for centuries. It is only in this last few decades this has increased exponentially. I believe this is because we have souls across the multiverse coming to witness an event on a planet with life that only happens very, very rarely.

We all have tickets to the greatest show in the universe...
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ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I have read your perspective in your thread about the dual timeliness too. Very interesting. I was considering that all timeliness come to a merge and graduation to another timeline that has yet to be created.
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I still think they are out to get us, personally. Look at Agenda 21. They may have "foreknowledge" of what the future holds but they are using that knowledge to decide which of us will live and which of us will die so in that regard, they are guilty as sin!

If they were concerned about us whatsoever, why didn't any of the people flying on 9/11 get the call to delay their flights? Why did only the select few get notified to avoid NYC and flying on that day. And what about the NDAA? Is that in anticipation of some coming event so they can put the blame on any American citizen they want with the law to back up their actions to detain them? They are NOT on our side or helpless victims who are burdened with "foreknowledge" and can do nothing about it...poor things!...GIVE ME A BREAK!

You may be on to something with this, OP, in that they can't do anything about what is going down but they sure know how to look out for their own at the expense of everyone else. They are all but putting innocent victims on the front lines to save their own!
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Hollywood would have to go before December this year.
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'Careful what you wish for...'
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I'd argue the population growth has come from technological advances in the health industry and food production. You have to remember that the industrial revolution is only around a hundred years old and has been speeding up exponentially as advances in computer science seem limitless.
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Yes but the question is why now?

We have had some sort of civilisation for at least 30,000 years (although looking more like 50,000 years based on new findings). Our ancestors were much more advanced than we are today (but that is a whole different discussion). We have had a steady population going all the way back.

We seem to reach this point and then suddenly start over. The difference this time is our ancestors who predicted the others have this point as the one where we are no longer simply re-hashing the same old thing but move onto bigger and greater things. It isn't an end but the dawn of a whole new beginning.

There wouldn't be a soul anywhere that wouldn't want to be part of such a rare and incredible event. I am theorising that is this population boom happening right now because we have souls throughout time and space that want to be here to witness first hand this event?

We've been living in an almost empty cinema for thousands of years but it is now filling up for the main movie.
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I can understand the time travel part of the OP and being able to see future events although not being able to put an exact date on them. This WOULD explain a lot.

9-11 though doesn't quite fit. They had intel that the hijackers were in the country so 9-11-01 was a pretty safe bet that it was the correct "9-11". Why not stop it? What kind of consequences would there have been in avoiding that tragedy? Other than not being able to pass draconian legislation and starting decades of Middle East war I don't see a reason.

The OP's theory suggests that we can see the future but can do nothing to stop it. I don't buy into that. The military has been developing and using both clairvoyants and psychics for years.

So yes, I believe there's a good possibility that we have seen glimpses of the future and have used said glimpses to be in the right place at the right time. I also believe they have used those glimpses to draw up a map as to how the population would be governed and allowed events to happen to suit their agenda. Possibly even aiding those events (such as 9-11) to make sure they happened.

In short I believe the future is dynamic and not set in stone.
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This opens up a much deeper line of thought and this rabbit hole goes very, very deep indeed.

I posted a topic on here before about 2012 being the year that the duality of timelines merge for the very reason that is was from this year that we altered history and the timelines both meet at the point of creation. It would explain why the looking glass cannot see any further into the future than Dec 2012.

I theorised that we will either become conscious of a duel timeline (as above, so below) or we become conscious of our entire time-line on this plant stretching back though all our lives in the last 30,000 years.
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the way they acted on 9/11 was as though they felt they HAD to allow it to happen. perhaps they realised that NOT allowing it to happen, and stopping it, would have led to even MORE disastrous events happening than we have seen this past decade?
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This can easily get into a dog chasing it's tail type of thing but... How would they have been able to see more disastrous things would happen if they couldn't see past 9-11 happening?
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Various timelines. There are endless timelines all happening NOW.

So pick the closest to yours or the deadliest.
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Hollywood would have to go before December this year.
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'Careful what you wish for...'
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I do not wish it, I merely suggest that the Vatican seems to know exactly when their time as a religion ends so if the movie timeline is correct the above would have to happen before that time.
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ABSOLUTELY AGREE. I have read your perspective in your thread about the dual timeliness too. Very interesting. I was considering that all timeliness come to a merge and graduation to another timeline that has yet to be created.
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I still think they are out to get us, personally. Look at Agenda 21. They may have "foreknowledge" of what the future holds but they are using that knowledge to decide which of us will live and which of us will die so in that regard, they are guilty as sin!

If they were concerned about us whatsoever, why didn't any of the people flying on 9/11 get the call to delay their flights? Why did only the select few get notified to avoid NYC and flying on that day. And what about the NDAA? Is that in anticipation of some coming event so they can put the blame on any American citizen they want with the law to back up their actions to detain them? They are NOT on our side or helpless victims who are burdened with "foreknowledge" and can do nothing about it...poor things!...GIVE ME A BREAK!

You may be on to something with this, OP, in that they can't do anything about what is going down but they sure know how to look out for their own at the expense of everyone else. They are all but putting innocent victims on the front lines to save their own!
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People are expendable. I was told that in the military point blank.

Anyone remember what Kissenger said about foreign policy and peoples lives? Basically, that we are pawns to be used.
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Thread: NASA and the link between Joe Stack and John Bedell

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could the flow of info be from killing the TTL sig

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

on data packets and run them thru dedicated servers?
could this have been discovered in the first days of the military "internet" in the 60-70's?

could the reason a ttl is attached thru cisco on all data packets is to prevent everyone from doing this?

could this be the source of wikileaks actual info?

for this and many more questions, stay tuned, same bat time, same bat channel

dr
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Hollywood would have to go before December this year.
 Quoting: WeAreOne


'Careful what you wish for...'
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I do not wish it, I merely suggest that the Vatican seems to know exactly when their time as a religion ends so if the movie timeline is correct the above would have to happen before that time.
 Quoting: WeAreOne


For just a moment, imagine the implications your statement might have on the timeline. The GLP effect is alive.


:GLPeffect:
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All events were planned many years in advance. There is no such thing as time travel.

As far as failures happening, they are also planned to cause people to bring their guard down. This way when the real thing happens, people will not believe it, and will not be prepared for it. Maximum damage/results that way.
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could the flow of info be from killing the TTL sig

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

on data packets and run them thru dedicated servers?
could this have been discovered in the first days of the military "internet" in the 60-70's?

could the reason a ttl is attached thru cisco on all data packets is to prevent everyone from doing this?

could this be the source of wikileaks actual info?

for this and many more questions, stay tuned, same bat time, same bat channel

dr
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Quite interesting. I understand you. Could explain the collection of various data and have a supercomputer collect data in various spheres of interest.
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Hollywood would have to go before December this year.
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'Careful what you wish for...'
 Quoting: pool


I do not wish it, I merely suggest that the Vatican seems to know exactly when their time as a religion ends so if the movie timeline is correct the above would have to happen before that time.
 Quoting: WeAreOne


For just a moment, imagine the implications your statement might have on the timeline. The GLP effect is alive.


GLPeffect
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I firmly believe that a global consciousness can bring about big changes which is why I'm very careful about sharing everything that I believe to be true.

I also believe that these type of films are set in place to raise global awareness of an event but to make it fear based instead.

Tesla was a pioneer of what we once were. Lakhovsky was a pioneer of realising exactly what we are and what we can be. The same can be said for Quantum Physics (Quantum entanglement is fascinating!).

I really believe we are finally at a point in time where we do find out exactly what we were, what we are and what we will be. We just have to tread carefully planting fear-seeds into the masses but more importantly we have to plant love-seeds in its place.
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could the flow of info be from killing the TTL sig

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

on data packets and run them thru dedicated servers?
could this have been discovered in the first days of the military "internet" in the 60-70's?

could the reason a ttl is attached thru cisco on all data packets is to prevent everyone from doing this?

could this be the source of wikileaks actual info?

for this and many more questions, stay tuned, same bat time, same bat channel

dr
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Quite interesting. I understand you. Could explain the collection of various data and have a supercomputer collect data in various spheres of interest.
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now if we tie the supercomputer to a set of "orbiting routers" then the only problem we have is degrading "copy of a copy" which could explain why the year sig gets lost (or has to be stripped to make it work)

now we just auto copy the api feeds and email them to ourselves, and get todays news yesterday

dr
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Regarding the Food.....

Subtle changes are being made throughout the food distribution industry in preparation for...

When is the last time you THOUGHT about WHY DO CAN GOODS HAVE A PULL TAB TOP NOW?

Why are manufacturers of MRE's working at full capacity to fill the outstanding orders from DHS, FEMA, Army, Navy, etc.?

IF an Extinction Level Event were to hit this old world, even the most skilled of us which were able to survive past the initial shock waves would desperately struggle to find FOOD & WATER with which to continue to survive on.

Great Post OP 5*****'s to you. rockon
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could the flow of info be from killing the TTL sig

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

on data packets and run them thru dedicated servers?
could this have been discovered in the first days of the military "internet" in the 60-70's?

could the reason a ttl is attached thru cisco on all data packets is to prevent everyone from doing this?

could this be the source of wikileaks actual info?

for this and many more questions, stay tuned, same bat time, same bat channel

dr
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Quite interesting. I understand you. Could explain the collection of various data and have a supercomputer collect data in various spheres of interest.
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now if we tie the supercomputer to a set of "orbiting routers" then the only problem we have is degrading "copy of a copy" which could explain why the year sig gets lost (or has to be stripped to make it work)

now we just auto copy the api feeds and email them to ourselves, and get todays news yesterday

dr
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Absolutely wonderful thinking. I see the bright light. Excellent.
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could the flow of info be from killing the TTL sig

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

on data packets and run them thru dedicated servers?
could this have been discovered in the first days of the military "internet" in the 60-70's?

could the reason a ttl is attached thru cisco on all data packets is to prevent everyone from doing this?

could this be the source of wikileaks actual info?

for this and many more questions, stay tuned, same bat time, same bat channel

dr
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Quite interesting. I understand you. Could explain the collection of various data and have a supercomputer collect data in various spheres of interest.
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now if we tie the supercomputer to a set of "orbiting routers" then the only problem we have is degrading "copy of a copy" which could explain why the year sig gets lost (or has to be stripped to make it work)

now we just auto copy the api feeds and email them to ourselves, and get todays news yesterday

dr
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Absolutely wonderful thinking. I see the bright light. Excellent.
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should we contemplate GLP building their own one

now first we need 25,000 miles of cable

and a big boat

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Pre-Crimes Unit. Like Minority Report. Are there really 3 Pre-Cogs floating in a pool? A branch of military with remote viewers that can see slightly into several variant futures? How about a supercomputer that calculates web-trends?
There are so many possibilities of accurately predicting the future within a certain statistical confidence.

Even our jobs are very dangerous at times. We deal with criminals at times. I can wake up and know for a fact that something is going to go very wrong on certain days. I inform my employees about this per-cognition, AND SURE ENOUGH, that day or within a couple days of "the event" we have an investigator who's involved in a shoot-out between two rival gangs, a defendant who goes crazy on us, an assault on one of our private detectives, a client walk in who's crazy and dangerous...or finally, a fraud case where the perp. can be pre-coged as the culprit. It happens all the time. Just two days ago we were looking for someone with the street name "Missy." I walked up to one person and JUST KNEW she was our target. I engaged her in conversation and a voice in my head said, call her "Missy" to gauge her response. Sure enough, she asked me how I knew her name was "Missy." It was a voice in my head..."Missy"...."Missy"...."Missy."

Now if you take that to an EXTREME level with military trained and maybe even drugged pre-cogs, they can report on future events enough to run the variables through supercomputers and confidential informants for enough confirmation of confidence algorithms and have some per-knowledge about highly probably, possible future events. I absolutely believe this.

Look at how many people who post on GLP of future events who swear they know something is "going to go down." Most are attention whores, sure....but some simply know it even though 99.9% are total failures. It gets old. But some might be right now and again...like a stopped clock.

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Regarding the Food.....

Subtle changes are being made throughout the food distribution industry in preparation for...

When is the last time you THOUGHT about WHY DO CAN GOODS HAVE A PULL TAB TOP NOW?

Why are manufacturers of MRE's working at full capacity to fill the outstanding orders from DHS, FEMA, Army, Navy, etc.?

IF an Extinction Level Event were to hit this old world, even the most skilled of us which were able to survive past the initial shock waves would desperately struggle to find FOOD & WATER with which to continue to survive on.

Great Post OP 5*****'s to you. rockon
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I believe most of those orders are going to the underground military bunkers. Some will be used for those military personnel assigned to duty on the surface and those people lured to a FEMA camp and the underground prisons.

The rest of us will get the outdated or soon to be outdated foodstuff.

Nice to divide and conquer the survivors who are hungry and make them serve you and work for food.
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Whats the reason for our leaders destroying countries all over the world ? After I seen how NATO funded neo-Nazi during the Yugoslav civil war and supported the break up, I lost all hope in believing that there is ANY positivity in our governments. Bill Clinton sent weapons to Franjo Tudman's Croatian Ustasa pro-Nazi separtist military.

I understand your theory, but I just can believe it. If anything, these crooks would use time travel to THEIR advantage. Not the peoples.


In any case, our leaders can kiss my ass, those Nazi scum fucks. BTW, look at the history of Nazi's and Muslims.

You'll get your answer to why Obama is President.
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Quite interesting. I understand you. Could explain the collection of various data and have a supercomputer collect data in various spheres of interest.
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now if we tie the supercomputer to a set of "orbiting routers" then the only problem we have is degrading "copy of a copy" which could explain why the year sig gets lost (or has to be stripped to make it work)

now we just auto copy the api feeds and email them to ourselves, and get todays news yesterday

dr
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Absolutely wonderful thinking. I see the bright light. Excellent.
 Quoting: mes 9798050


should we contemplate GLP building their own one

now first we need 25,000 miles of cable

and a big boat

dr
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Or the keys to the back door. I am quite sure someone working on this for curiosity sake or life protection put a back door mechanism inside. HA.
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Pre-Crimes Unit. Like Minority Report. Are there really 3 Pre-Cogs floating in a pool? A branch of military with remote viewers that can see slightly into several variant futures? How about a supercomputer that calculates web-trends?
There are so many possibilities of accurately predicting the future within a certain statistical confidence.

Even our jobs are very dangerous at times. We deal with criminals at times. I can wake up and know for a fact that something is going to go very wrong on certain days. I inform my employees about this per-cognition, AND SURE ENOUGH, that day or within a couple days of "the event" we have an investigator who's involved in a shoot-out between two rival gangs, a defendant who goes crazy on us, an assault on one of our private detectives, a client walk in who's crazy and dangerous...or finally, a fraud case where the perp. can be pre-coged as the culprit. It happens all the time. Just two days ago we were looking for someone with the street name "Missy." I walked up to one person and JUST KNEW she was our target. I engaged her in conversation and a voice in my head said, call her "Missy" to gauge her response. Sure enough, she asked me how I knew her name was "Missy." It was a voice in my head..."Missy"...."Missy"...."Missy."

Now if you take that to an EXTREME level with military trained and maybe even drugged pre-cogs, they can report on future events enough to run the variables through supercomputers and confidential informants for enough confirmation of confidence algorithms and have some per-knowledge about highly probably, possible future events. I absolutely believe this.
 Quoting: Thug Cat


There is currently a TV series now running. Can't think of the name where they have supercomputers tell them a crime is going to take place and they must stop it.

Yes, this I know about that consciousness zone. I get it too from time to time. I practice mine on the street with everyday interactions and how right I have been. Been honing my skill quietly. Keeping abreast to on the various ways info flows in a NOW timeframe fashion. That is the real time travel "machine".
Although TPTB has a time machine I heard this about 6 years ago.

Don't know how long ago they have had it.
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Please bear with me as I explain, I know this is long but this could be the key to it all.


A few puzzle pieces have come into play recently. Suffice to say that these are theories and/or ideas that I have fashioned when thinking about the big picture so bear with me as I lay out most of the info and it could very well help you in your quest for truth as well.



First some facts to get us started.


9-11-01


The gold was moved from beneath the trade center right before the attack.

The buildings collapsed at freeform speed and straight down as if a demolition team was used

Norad was told to stand down

Many people received phone calls warning them NOT to fly on that day.

President Bush didn’t seem to be concerned nor was he whisked away to safety.

There were “drills” taking place that day so Norad didn’t know what was real and what was a “drill”


Those are the basics to keep in mind as we delve further into this plain sight mystery.


Next..


The 7-7 London Bombings.

Again, a drill was taking place for the EXACT scenario on THAT day. Including the bus that went off route, just happened to be in the vicinity of first responder “drill” personnel.


Same with the OK City bombings. The ATF had evacuated the building. Maybe they did this EVERY year on THAT date. What would happen if they did have foreknowledge and had evacuated all those people and children? Seems the humane thing to do but can you thwart someones death and it not have consequences. Final Destination anyone?



Most here on GLP know of the “drill into a real scenario” occurances. Most think these events were pre-planned and orchestrated by “them”.


How about the Swine Flu outbreak a few years ago?? The CDC sure seemed to be in full out PANIC mode….but nothing came of it. Was it because they know there is going to be a full blown pandemic but they simply don’t know the year?? So perhaps they thought THIS was the year and went on full throttle mode.


The same could be said for Hurricane Irene….that storm was SO hyped and many states had the largest evacuations ever….but nothing came from it really. The Weather Channel hyped it up at the risk of their reputation. Why? Again, the event is going to happen they just don’t know WHAT YEAR.



Now lets take into account all the movies that seem to predict the future and leave us clues as to what is to come. There are way too many movies for me to list them all, but if you know of any right off hand then rethink what the movies tell you. Lots of folks think that this is the Illuminati throwing it in our faces and laughing at us. But lets suspend that thought for a few moments and continue….



Next, lets look at Steve Jacksons Illuminati Card Game….



The cards show the WTC “Nuke Event”, The Pentagon, The Oil Spill, A Black man having rotten fruit thrown at him (Obama), Pandemic, The Japan Multiple Disasters (with the Seiko Tower clock on the card pointing to 3-11) and so on and so forth. The other cards could possibly and quite likely point to different things to come and to watch for. Other cards are just thrown in there as fillers too I would imagine.



Many think that all these events were planned for far in advance and that “they” are doing this in a devilish plan to rule the world. I suggest that these events were KNOWN about for years in advance and planned for.


But, many of you would dismiss Project Pegasus….I would like to offer the following for your consideration.


In interviews Andrew Biasagio he stated that they could look into the future by means of time travel through a persons DNA. The participants would simple go a little further down the time line and report back what they saw during that time for their lives.


He even states that more than one participant came back with the date 9-11 and about airliners hitting two large buildings in New York.


He also stated that it was decided back in the 70s that NO interferance would be allowed into the future coming events. Not saying its ok to time travel into someones DNA, but it would be even more dangerous to interfere with coming future events.


So now, what we have is an agency that has full knowledge of future events ,but cannot stop them or try to thwart them in any manner. The implications of time travel are intense but to CHANGE future events would have consequences beyond comprehension. But they could PLAN for them in advance.



Lets assume for the sake of this thread and to expand our understanding perhaps that what these people came back and reported was known to be true and would in fact happen one day.



It is my suggestion that this is in fact the case. THEY (TPTB) did know that 9-11 would happen. They just didn’t know what YEAR. This would explain A LOT.


President George H Bush mentioned the NWO on 9-11 ten years before it happened.

The number 911 was placed into many many movies years before 2001….

If explosives were placed into the buildings beforehand it was with the knowledge that the strikes were going to occur at some point in the future. They cant stop the airplanes but they could try and manage the damage to the buildings and surrounding areas of downtown Manhattan.


What would have happened if those buildings had fallen over to the side?


This would also explain the “drill” at the Pentagon and why that area of the building had almost no one working in that wing on 9-11.


I have no explaination for Flight 93. Perhaps they did thwart that one as it was stated that it was heading towards the White House. Time travel or not I cant see them allowing the White House to be taken out.


This would also explain why the Patriot Act was already waiting in the wings and ready to be rolled out when this event happened. And I do entertain the notion that “they” might have planned for what to do AFTER these events happened..(i.e Iraq, Afghanistan)



By having this “future events” knowledge it can let them plan ahead to use these events to further their agenda…whatever that may be. We certainly do not know and anyone who claims to know is merely making a guess at best. We don’t know the whole picture.



So exactly how DID Steve Jackson get those cards to predict future events? Because they have known these events WERE/ARE going to take place and if they are not allowed to change the course of history they can WARN the masses in a subtle way. Its not a big conspiracy.


I offer the same explanation for the London Bombings. If, as some of you suggest, “they” planned the bombings well in advance…then why the need to have medics and police RIGHT THERE when it happened? Wouldn’t they have let all those people die in the explosions? Population Control right? Wrong! Perhaps they too knew it was going to happen….just not the YEAR.



It’s the same with all the coincidences in movies from the past and present. There are SO many things in older movies that played out in real life AFTER the movie was released. How did they know?


Are they really warnings for those that can see them?



What about all the other drills that have been happening?


Operation Pacific Wave on Nov 8th followed by the National Alert the following day? Now the “drills” in Los Angeles? The huge New Madrid “drills” that have taken place? Many more drills to numerous to mention as well.
Take note of the dates of those drills….Those are the dates to look for. They don’t know the YEAR in some cases. This would explain a great deal about 9-11, the london bombings. Bp oil spill, Japan disasters.



If they knew an underwater volcano was going to erupt in the Gulf before it happened then perhaps BP was chosen to step up and take the blame. It certainly would explain why they seemed so unconcerned about it all. It would also explain why deep drilling was allowed to resume. Far better to have a person/company to blame than to tell the public about the serious earth changes taking place. Blaming man is better and seems controllable to the public….but tell the populace that it’s the earth?? No way.



Im not asking you to believe me. I am asking you to ask yourself… IS IT POSSIBLE?


I further suggest that it would be far easier to have the “conspiracy theorists” chasing the boogeymen than to let the public know about the time travel data gathering capabilities.


If you allow your mind to ponder this deeply the BIG picture will come into view and some things that are obvious will become MORE obvious.


I recall back in 2005 when a RUSH was placed upon the building of the Norway Seed Vault. It was said that it HAD to be completed by September of 2005. It appeared that the doom would befall us that year, but it wasn’t that year…..now we wait for the right year.


Every fall there are “drills” and into the winter months as well. These are the times to look for. They know this and so do you. When the event does take place the right people will be there to HELP.


I believe that the technology is there to gain access to the space time continium and I also believe that they in fact do know what is to come. Perhaps that would also explain why all these new bills and legislation are being passed. For future events they know are coming that we arent privy to unless we see the clues that are out there. And they ARE out there.


EMP, Dollar Collapse, Asteroid, Aliens, Zombies, Pandemic, ???? All of the above?


Fema camps for people displaced by natual disasters instead of for “everyone” for no reason.



Chemtrails being sprayed to coat our atmosphere from deadly UV rays because our magnetosphere is collapsing. Foreseen?



Monsanto making GMO foods that are resistent to aluminum barium and other chemicals in the chemtrails. The lesser of two evils?


GMO foods last a LONG time and theres a reason for that. Look past what you deem as evil and try to see a bigger picture.


Many advocates plead for us all to turn to organic foods and not eat processed foods because they are poison…and they are. But think about that for just a minute.


Picture in your mind your local grocery store where you shop for food. Now….in your mind remove ALL the center isles and leave only the outer rim of fruits veggies meat, dairy and bread. THAT’S all that would available to EVERYONE in your area.


How long do you think the food in your store would last if there was not ONE processed food item anywhere to be found? The fact is, there would not be enough food if it werent for those people that eat processed food at every meal. You best pray they keep eating that food or there wont be enough food for everyone. Don’t be a hypocrite until you have opened your eyes to the bigger picture. That’s all I am saying and trying to convey here.



I welcome comments and rebuttals to this in any form. All I ask is that you ponder this within yourself before you post without taking time to think this through.



Again, I could take this further down the rabbit hole but I have just used a few examples of what I believe to be going on and why.


and also ask yourself. If you were on the inside with information about coming catostrophic events and there was nothing anyone could do to stop it.....What would you do?

Time Travel, DNA Travel, Remote Viewing....

Seeing a different time doesnt mean you can or should change it even if it saves lives. The past,present and future are as close as right now.


Thanks for reading.....
 Quoting: Subjective Thinking 1519717

Thanks for the post, you actually helped me connect that last missing link.. Now I know what's up for sure..

Good job OP.

hf
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All the evidence taken as a whole leads to only one conclusion - 911 was an inside job and all the political players involved knew about it before hand.

So, all are guilty of treason, perjury, and premeditated murder

Anyone who still believes that 19 Arab 'terrorists' perpetrated this alone with box cutters and suddenly became expert pilots of jumbo jets is an idiot.
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interesting notes on time warping

[link to www.nist.gov]

[link to news.discovery.com]

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and the actual experiment in '71

[link to hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu]

and that was planes traveling in normal commercial mode

our data travels close to the speed of light
any physics majors here?

how much time would you gain or loose based upon sea level?

and then if run thru satelites, more, and less speed could be gained on top of that depending upon direction of orbit

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Additionally, take a look into this scenario: talking extreme, how about a cloned human body with an AI supercomputer brain uploading and getting downloads from a military satellite. Would this be highly classified and plausible? Observing and watching and able to process vast amount of data by tapping in to other supercomputers. The ultimate Big Brother, Timeline processor and Predictor of humanity.

Think it isn't possible? Whatever the mind can believe can be achieve. No secret anymore. Just who can it be and how many military predator droids are functioning.

Talking about taking it to a higher level.

Pre-Crimes Unit. Like Minority Report. Are there really 3 Pre-Cogs floating in a pool? A branch of military with remote viewers that can see slightly into several variant futures? How about a supercomputer that calculates web-trends?
There are so many possibilities of accurately predicting the future within a certain statistical confidence.

Even our jobs are very dangerous at times. We deal with criminals at times. I can wake up and know for a fact that something is going to go very wrong on certain days. I inform my employees about this per-cognition, AND SURE ENOUGH, that day or within a couple days of "the event" we have an investigator who's involved in a shoot-out between two rival gangs, a defendant who goes crazy on us, an assault on one of our private detectives, a client walk in who's crazy and dangerous...or finally, a fraud case where the perp. can be pre-coged as the culprit. It happens all the time. Just two days ago we were looking for someone with the street name "Missy." I walked up to one person and JUST KNEW she was our target. I engaged her in conversation and a voice in my head said, call her "Missy" to gauge her response. Sure enough, she asked me how I knew her name was "Missy." It was a voice in my head..."Missy"...."Missy"...."Missy."

Now if you take that to an EXTREME level with military trained and maybe even drugged pre-cogs, they can report on future events enough to run the variables through supercomputers and confidential informants for enough confirmation of confidence algorithms and have some per-knowledge about highly probably, possible future events. I absolutely believe this.
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There is currently a TV series now running. Can't think of the name where they have supercomputers tell them a crime is going to take place and they must stop it.

Yes, this I know about that consciousness zone. I get it too from time to time. I practice mine on the street with everyday interactions and how right I have been. Been honing my skill quietly. Keeping abreast to on the various ways info flows in a NOW timeframe fashion. That is the real time travel "machine".
Although TPTB has a time machine I heard this about 6 years ago.

Don't know how long ago they have had it.
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maybe broadcasts of an impending doom event were sent back through time in the other direction when something strange happened
there is tech \now that can send sound back in time





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