>>>BREAKING!!!! Giant Veil of "Cold Plasma" Discovered High Above Earth!!!!

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Did you even read the article? It clearly states that it's only called "cold" because it's cooler than most plasma, it's still 500,000 degrees. That's hardly cold.

All it means is that as we already knew, there is a ton we don't understand.

My genius husband (lol) seems to think this may be a sign that our atmosphere is being stripped away and becoming cold plasma. Any thoughts?

Please use the link in Sick Scents sig and take some time and really read what is there. Science barely understands plasma and its workings in complex states of matter; let alone what types of quantum states would exist in cold plasma.

Here you have CME's, Ribbons of matter from the stars, dark matter and the earth leaking cold plasma. Add in the barely understood Van Allen belt and you have a quantum soup surrounding the earth and moon that affects us in ways no one really knows. To say that the earth and our weather and psychic well being are unaffected is at best a sign of slovenly thinking. All is connected and all is affected.

The fun is trying to figure out how it all works.

Read Sick Scents blog; if not for the science then for how to perceive and think about the effect of the world and cosmos on us and the earth.

Soapbox off.

We're always losing atmosphere, so he is right, we have atmosphere escaping all the time. But we also gain it from the solar wind, it's more of an exchange.

Why is everyone posting like this just came into existence?

I didn't read the article, but isn't assumed this "veil" was always there before and was just now discovered?

There's your problem. Start there perhaps.

and you know this how?

i had an ominous thought about this on waking this morning.

what IF this plasma builds up, under certain circumstances, and is actually IGNITED, or at least made a lot hotter when struck by a certain size of CME?

the clovis extinction event bugs me. I don't think there is ANY way that could have been caused by a comet fragment exploding over north america. I think anything like that would have been far more localised than it was.

no, something that sets the ENTIRE atmosphere alight, on the hemisphere facing the cme?

is THIS the mechanism?

You'd need a direct gamma ray burst, like we use lasers to ignite plasma on Earth. It could in theory light the atmosphere, but only if it is dense enough. The plasma above us gets less dense the further out is gets. It needs to be much much denser. And no a CME just won't do it because it's a plasma, you can't ignite plasma with more plasma, you need radiation, focused radiation. Maybe a flare could heat up some portion but I highly doubt we'll ever experience a flare that powerful much less experience the conditions required for any kind of ignition.

Last Edited by Plasmare on 01/28/2012 09:02 AM

believe it or not, you just reassured me.

thank fuck for that. talk about a doom event.

here's an interesting article I found about plasma around Saturn..

[link to spacefellowship.com]

what's your opinion about the clovis event though?

i still don't buy the official explanation for it. Also, could THIS be a good explanation of the whitening sun?

Did you bother to read either of the linked articles? The first article describes IBEX mapping the "Ribbon" and
The plasma cloud you mention is described in detail in the second link. As described in the second article, "Astronomers call the cloud we're running into now the Local Interstellar Cloud or "Local Fluff" for short. It's about 30 light years wide and contains a wispy mixture of hydrogen and helium atoms at a temperature of 6000 C"
" Pot meet Kettle.

I'm one of the first people who brought that info to GLP for discussion... Maybe if you actually read the papers published by IBEX you'd actually understand what they found.

thanks for all your great replies!! sorry that I was off-line for a bit.

I agree, part of the significance of this is simply that new phenomena like this are being discovered in any form, and therefore changing our understanding of phenomena like this. there are many discoveries like this recently.

related. Probes Suggest Magnetic Bubbles at Solar System Edge. 6/10/11


[link to spacefellowship.com]

Voyager Makes an Interstellar Discovery.
Published by Matt on Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:34 am via: NASA
The solar system is passing through an interstellar cloud that physics says should not exist. In the Dec. 24th issue of Nature, a team of scientists reveal how NASA’s Voyager spacecraft have solved the mystery.

“Using data from Voyager, we have discovered a strong magnetic field just outside the solar system,” explains lead author Merav Opher, a NASA Heliophysics Guest Investigator from George Mason University. “This magnetic field holds the interstellar cloud together and solves the long-standing puzzle of how it can exist at all.”

[link to spacefellowship.com]

In the 1980s, an object, named for the Greek goddess “Nemesis,” was proposed to explain periodic mass extinctions on the Earth. Nemesis would have followed a highly elliptical orbit, perturbing comets in the Oort Cloud roughly every 26 million years and sending a shower of comets toward the inner solar system.

Some of these comets would have slammed into Earth, causing catastrophic results to life. Recent scientific analysis no longer supports the idea that extinctions on Earth happen at regular, repeating intervals. Thus, the Nemesis hypothesis is no longer needed. However, it is still possible that the sun could have a distant, unseen companion in a more circular orbit with a period of a few million years — one that would not cause devastating effects to terrestrial life.


[link to spacefellowship.com]

NASA Scientists' Model Reveals How Plasma from Superstorms Affects Near-Earth Space.

[link to spacefellowship.com]

Magnetic whirlpools feed Earth’s magnetosphere
Published by Sigurd De Keyser on Wed Dec 6, 2006 6:08 pm.

Giant whirlpools of electrically charged gas, some 40 000 kilometres across, have been witnessed above the Earth by a team of European and American scientists. Using data from ESA’s Cluster quartet of spacecraft, the researchers have shown that these whirlpools inject electrified gas into the magnetic environment of the Earth.

[link to spacefellowship.com]

You're just playing catch up right now, there's still much you don't know. Try looking at my posts because all this information, except for the new discovery, has already been posted and discussed. Also SickScent's.

Plasma is the invisible thread that connects us to the rest of the universe. It connects us to the sun and stars light years away. It's an invisible ocean above us and most people have no idea.

It's Electricty, know what I mean?

The Thunderbolt controls the Universe!

^So cute!^

No... it's not, plasma has some electricity but mostly it is matter. You can't ignore the plasma and just talk about the electricity because they're both part of the same thing. Sure every atom in existence has electrons but most of the time it's where they stay, inside the atom, until something causes a chemical reaction or ionization causes the atoms to lose some electrons. Then the electrons become free hence becoming an electrical current and giving way to magnetic fields.

Last Edited by Plasmare on 01/28/2012 07:48 PM

2 words.. electric fog