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Not normally they don't, but when the Earths magnetic field is failing and becoming unstable, the ionosphere can actually come in contact with the EARTHS SURFACE. You are quite ignorant and relying strictly in conventional 'wisdom', which no longer applies because things are changing radically with the Earth and the solar system. My best guess based on tier behavior is that their brain function was disrupted by a high flux density of charged particles.
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Which shows how deluded dumb and cracked you are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781013


Try watching this:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

or the ring current on this set of simulations:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have seen the magnetopause come so close to the earth it seemed like it was goind to touch it, twice in the past few weeks during the extreme activity. When that happens, what do you think is going to be the result of that occurance? Not a normal everyday event, but does happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


A.A did actually explain this a couple of weeks ago, in language even the shit for brains could understand... guess they didn't do their homework.

tounge
 Quoting: MzTreeChick


Did he explain why the Wind Speed chart on the Model was screwed up? Someone that I believe works with the model explained to me that the ACE satellite has problems with the real time data during extreme events causing dropouts and lost data. You can clearly see on my video at time 1:20 that the wind speed chart is FUBAR. This was noted at those 'event' times. I wouldn't trust that model one bit as long as the charts are FUBAR.

Look for the posts by jacklee1961: [link to www.youtube.com]



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3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications

AA, if able, please point me in a direction whereby I can research this 'phenomenon.'

Thanks,

DP

Update: In 2008, first report I found alluding to this possiblilty:

[link to www.groundreport.com]

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AA- If our magnetosphere fails then I dont think we will be alive even if it is for a few seconds. Correct me if I am wrong.AS cosmic rays will enter earth's atmosphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13364171


Isn't that happening to some extent already?

Want to be sure I am correct on this so....

Aren't cosmic rays actually neutrons and although they will bounce off a magnetic field, don't some get through? I'm not very well versed here so please correct me if I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


Cosmic rays are not affected by magnetic fields if they are neutrons. They are attenuated very slightly by the atmosphere and penetrate to depths of 100 feet into the Earth. Luckily, their flux densities are every low. Cosmic 'rays' are called 'rays' so no one will notice that the energy involved indicates + light speed mass.

Protons are another form of cosmic 'ray' which can and do reach velocities exceeding light speed. These have the same energy PER PROTON as a round from an m16, but luckily they pass through without expending much of their energy, since matter is mostly empty space between atoms. The flux densities of these originating from the sun during a masive CME can be high and very dangerous, but the magnetic field deflects and captures the majority when it is intact.
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Which shows how deluded dumb and cracked you are
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Try watching this:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

or the ring current on this set of simulations:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have seen the magnetopause come so close to the earth it seemed like it was goind to touch it, twice in the past few weeks during the extreme activity. When that happens, what do you think is going to be the result of that occurance? Not a normal everyday event, but does happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


The magnetopause has NEVER "touched" the earth not even close and the ionosphere is not the magnetosphere despite what dipshit AA speels on about.

If the ionosphere ever touched the earth it would be immediately known about and the results would not be able to be hidden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781013


1)The magneto pause has came to within 200 miles of the
Earth during the last solar maximum in 2003 and some believe was actually pushed behind the earth by huge cme from an infamous x ray flare that originated from a tremendously huge and infamous sunspot known as the 'y hole' . The only thing that saved us was an extremely robust geomagnetic field which was charged by the electromagnetic energy from the X ray flare that preceded the CME that pushed the magneto pause back. There was no simulation then and even if there was, thats what it was, and proof of nothing


2) The Ionosphere is an integral part of the magnetosphere and the van allen radiation belts. All are related and integral parts of each other.


3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications
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Mass human deaths in Portugal huh?

NASA covering that up too?
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Which shows how deluded dumb and cracked you are
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Try watching this:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

or the ring current on this set of simulations:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have seen the magnetopause come so close to the earth it seemed like it was goind to touch it, twice in the past few weeks during the extreme activity. When that happens, what do you think is going to be the result of that occurance? Not a normal everyday event, but does happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


The magnetopause has NEVER "touched" the earth not even close and the ionosphere is not the magnetosphere despite what dipshit AA speels on about.

If the ionosphere ever touched the earth it would be immediately known about and the results would not be able to be hidden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781013


1)The magneto pause has came to within 200 miles of the
Earth during the last solar maximum in 2003 and some believe was actually pushed behind the earth by huge cme from an infamous x ray flare that originated from a tremendously huge and infamous sunspot known as the 'y hole' . The only thing that saved us was an extremely robust geomagnetic field which was charged by the electromagnetic energy from the X ray flare that preceded the CME that pushed the magneto pause back. There was no simulation then and even if there was, thats what it was, and proof of nothing


2) The Ionosphere is an integral part of the magnetosphere and the van allen radiation belts. All are related and integral parts of each other.


3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 12083302


any sign or ways to predict localized failure of the geomagnetic field ?
will geiger counter works as early detection mechanism or something more powerful?
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3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications

AA, if able, please point me in a direction whereby I can research this 'phenomenon.'

Thanks,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


You can't because they don't

You have to take his word for it
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AA- If our magnetosphere fails then I dont think we will be alive even if it is for a few seconds. Correct me if I am wrong.AS cosmic rays will enter earth's atmosphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13364171


Isn't that happening to some extent already?

Want to be sure I am correct on this so....

Aren't cosmic rays actually neutrons and although they will bounce off a magnetic field, don't some get through? I'm not very well versed here so please correct me if I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


Cosmic rays are not affected by magnetic fields if they are neutrons. They are attenuated very slightly by the atmosphere and penetrate to depths of 100 feet into the Earth. Luckily, their flux densities are every low. Cosmic 'rays' are called 'rays' so no one will notice that the energy involved indicates + light speed mass.

Protons are another form of cosmic 'ray' which can and do reach velocities exceeding light speed. These have the same energy PER PROTON as a round from an m16, but luckily they pass through without expending much of their energy, since matter is mostly empty space between atoms. The flux densities of these originating from the sun during a masive CME can be high and very dangerous, but the magnetic field deflects and captures the majority when it is intact.
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no such thing as empty space

just saying
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3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications

AA, if able, please point me in a direction whereby I can research this 'phenomenon.'

Thanks,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


It is a totally new phenomenon brought on by the radical weakening , reversals, and dissociation of the Earths magnetic field which is uncharted territory in human experience. Normally the earths magnetic field goes from pole to pole and the charged participles remain trapped in the magnetic field well above the Earth, but recently multiple poles have been detected. These represent areas where the charged particles of the radiation belts CAN AND DO come in contact with the Earth.
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AA- If our magnetosphere fails then I dont think we will be alive even if it is for a few seconds. Correct me if I am wrong.AS cosmic rays will enter earth's atmosphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13364171


Isn't that happening to some extent already?

Want to be sure I am correct on this so....

Aren't cosmic rays actually neutrons and although they will bounce off a magnetic field, don't some get through? I'm not very well versed here so please correct me if I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


Cosmic rays are not affected by magnetic fields if they are neutrons. They are attenuated very slightly by the atmosphere and penetrate to depths of 100 feet into the Earth. Luckily, their flux densities are every low. Cosmic 'rays' are called 'rays' so no one will notice that the energy involved indicates + light speed mass.

Protons are another form of cosmic 'ray' which can and do reach velocities exceeding light speed. These have the same energy PER PROTON as a round from an m16, but luckily they pass through without expending much of their energy, since matter is mostly empty space between atoms. The flux densities of these originating from the sun during a masive CME can be high and very dangerous, but the magnetic field deflects and captures the majority when it is intact.
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no such thing as empty space

just saying
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Approximately 99.9999+ percent of mass is empty space between atoms
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3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications

AA, if able, please point me in a direction whereby I can research this 'phenomenon.'

Thanks,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


It is a totally new phenomenon brought on by the radical weakening , reversals, and dissociation of the Earths magnetic field which is uncharted territory in human experience. Normally the earths magnetic field goes from pole to pole and the charged participles remain trapped in the magnetic field well above the Earth, but recently multiple poles have been detected. These represent areas where the charged particles of the radiation belts CAN AND DO come in contact with the Earth.
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Thanks

DP
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3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications

AA, if able, please point me in a direction whereby I can research this 'phenomenon.'

Thanks,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


It is a totally new phenomenon brought on by the radical weakening , reversals, and dissociation of the Earths magnetic field which is uncharted territory in human experience. Normally the earths magnetic field goes from pole to pole and the charged participles remain trapped in the magnetic field well above the Earth, but recently multiple poles have been detected. These represent areas where the charged particles of the radiation belts CAN AND DO come in contact with the Earth.
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BULLSHIT

See no other source but his deluded rantings

He does a pretty good job with the participle theory though

No multiple poles have been detected except in AA's head
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Here's another story of a lunatic pax on a flight today;

[link to www.wcnc.com]
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AA- If our magnetosphere fails then I dont think we will be alive even if it is for a few seconds. Correct me if I am wrong.AS cosmic rays will enter earth's atmosphere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13364171


Isn't that happening to some extent already?

Want to be sure I am correct on this so....

Aren't cosmic rays actually neutrons and although they will bounce off a magnetic field, don't some get through? I'm not very well versed here so please correct me if I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


Cosmic rays are not affected by magnetic fields if they are neutrons. They are attenuated very slightly by the atmosphere and penetrate to depths of 100 feet into the Earth. Luckily, their flux densities are every low. Cosmic 'rays' are called 'rays' so no one will notice that the energy involved indicates + light speed mass.

Protons are another form of cosmic 'ray' which can and do reach velocities exceeding light speed. These have the same energy PER PROTON as a round from an m16, but luckily they pass through without expending much of their energy, since matter is mostly empty space between atoms. The flux densities of these originating from the sun during a masive CME can be high and very dangerous, but the magnetic field deflects and captures the majority when it is intact.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 12083302

Thanks for your response! I appreciate the science lessons.

In high school one of my science teachers used to have talks with me often. He always said I had an knack for science and if I stopped being like the other girs and got boys out of my head, I could do well by following an education in science. I'm sure it is evident I didn't listen.

Have to add that a certain math teacher used to tell me similar things and I did listen to some extent. Problem is I love science more now and wish I had paid attention a long time ago. I'm as close as I can get to science in my career, but am as far as I can get and I wish I could be more involved in the science aspect than the management of data and editing science reports. It's the math that got me where I am...not the science. I know better than to look back and wish I had done it differently but do so regardless at times.
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AA,

The NICT - Real Time Magnetosphere website just came back online on the 26th and I was on it for hours last night and today wondering what we could be hitting to make it white out? Our Magnetosphere is getting hit from something and it's NOT the sun hmmmmm

[link to www2.nict.go.jp]


Compare to...


[link to solarham.com]


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Try watching this:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

or the ring current on this set of simulations:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have seen the magnetopause come so close to the earth it seemed like it was goind to touch it, twice in the past few weeks during the extreme activity. When that happens, what do you think is going to be the result of that occurance? Not a normal everyday event, but does happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


The magnetopause has NEVER "touched" the earth not even close and the ionosphere is not the magnetosphere despite what dipshit AA speels on about.

If the ionosphere ever touched the earth it would be immediately known about and the results would not be able to be hidden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781013


1)The magneto pause has came to within 200 miles of the
Earth during the last solar maximum in 2003 and some believe was actually pushed behind the earth by huge cme from an infamous x ray flare that originated from a tremendously huge and infamous sunspot known as the 'y hole' . The only thing that saved us was an extremely robust geomagnetic field which was charged by the electromagnetic energy from the X ray flare that preceded the CME that pushed the magneto pause back. There was no simulation then and even if there was, thats what it was, and proof of nothing


2) The Ionosphere is an integral part of the magnetosphere and the van allen radiation belts. All are related and integral parts of each other.


3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 12083302


Mass human deaths in Portugal huh?

NASA covering that up too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13372289


[link to iceagenow.info]

Old people, just like the mass deaths in France and India during the last solar max, it just so happened that a CME occurred while the Sun was almost directly overhead in france and india, again, the old and weak are the least resilient to radiation since their cells do not repair. In India, elephants kept in metal sheds died, as did cows

They;re NOT going to tell the truth because it would be the end for them and they know it. IT IS THAT SIMPLE
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Here's another story of a lunatic pax on a flight today;

[link to www.wcnc.com]
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Nothing funny about this, is there?

How many people do you see loosing it around you. It is scary. Right off the cuff, I can name 7 people whom I know personally who have gone from normal to psychotic over the past year, with no previous history of mental illness. Three of these people have been hospitalized in a psychiatric facility. The others are receiving ongoing outpatient treatment. Two of them are young - about 14 years old.

Is this part of what is going on with our sun, magnetic field and the solar radiation that is bombarding us and is it going to get worse?
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3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications

AA, if able, please point me in a direction whereby I can research this 'phenomenon.'

Thanks,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


It is a totally new phenomenon brought on by the radical weakening , reversals, and dissociation of the Earths magnetic field which is uncharted territory in human experience. Normally the earths magnetic field goes from pole to pole and the charged participles remain trapped in the magnetic field well above the Earth, but recently multiple poles have been detected. These represent areas where the charged particles of the radiation belts CAN AND DO come in contact with the Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 12083302


BULLSHIT

See no other source but his deluded rantings

He does a pretty good job with the participle theory though

No multiple poles have been detected except in AA's head
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13372289


Actually this is well confirmed by multiple SCIENTIFIC sources including ironically, NASA> The North pole is now moving so fast that compasses are becoming obsolesce, satiric and at times useless.
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Which shows how deluded dumb and cracked you are
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Try watching this:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

or the ring current on this set of simulations:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have seen the magnetopause come so close to the earth it seemed like it was goind to touch it, twice in the past few weeks during the extreme activity. When that happens, what do you think is going to be the result of that occurance? Not a normal everyday event, but does happen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


A.A did actually explain this a couple of weeks ago, in language even the shit for brains could understand... guess they didn't do their homework.

tounge
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Did he explain why the Wind Speed chart on the Model was screwed up? Someone that I believe works with the model explained to me that the ACE satellite has problems with the real time data during extreme events causing dropouts and lost data. You can clearly see on my video at time 1:20 that the wind speed chart is FUBAR. This was noted at those 'event' times. I wouldn't trust that model one bit as long as the charts are FUBAR.

Look for the posts by jacklee1961: [link to www.youtube.com]


 Quoting: TBar1984

Someone want to explain why the ACE Wind Speed Chart is totally Screwed during these supposed reversals? I must have missed it if it was explained previously. I'd really like your thoughts on why the ACE data seems to be faulty at those times.

Time 1:20 in the above video.
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The magnetopause has NEVER "touched" the earth not even close and the ionosphere is not the magnetosphere despite what dipshit AA speels on about.

If the ionosphere ever touched the earth it would be immediately known about and the results would not be able to be hidden.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781013


1)The magneto pause has came to within 200 miles of the
Earth during the last solar maximum in 2003 and some believe was actually pushed behind the earth by huge cme from an infamous x ray flare that originated from a tremendously huge and infamous sunspot known as the 'y hole' . The only thing that saved us was an extremely robust geomagnetic field which was charged by the electromagnetic energy from the X ray flare that preceded the CME that pushed the magneto pause back. There was no simulation then and even if there was, thats what it was, and proof of nothing


2) The Ionosphere is an integral part of the magnetosphere and the van allen radiation belts. All are related and integral parts of each other.


3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 12083302


Mass human deaths in Portugal huh?

NASA covering that up too?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13372289


[link to iceagenow.info]

Old people, just like the mass deaths in France and India during the last solar max, it just so happened that a CME occurred while the Sun was almost directly overhead in france and india, again, the old and weak are the least resilient to radiation since their cells do not repair. In India, elephants kept in metal sheds died, as did cows

They;re NOT going to tell the truth because it would be the end for them and they know it. IT IS THAT SIMPLE
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There is a thread on GLP about this subject in Portugal by a person who lives there. He was very upset by these articles claiming the flu or viruses and recounted numerous stories about people he knew personally that did not exhibit flu symptoms, yet became very ill and were hospitalized and or passed away.
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Nothing funny about this, is there?

How many people do you see loosing it around you. It is scary. Right off the cuff, I can name 7 people whom I know personally who have gone from normal to psychotic over the past year, with no previous history of mental illness. Three of these people have been hospitalized in a psychiatric facility. The others are receiving ongoing outpatient treatment. Two of them are young - about 14 years old.

Is this part of what is going on with our sun, magnetic field and the solar radiation that is bombarding us and is it going to get worse?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9525784


I personally believe everyone who is not taking continuous specific precautions is effected including myself. The human brain works on an electrical Principal and charged particles can not only interfere with it;s function but cause permanent irreversible damage to memory and any portion of the brain that controls activity or stores memory.
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3)The ionosphere touches the Earths surface at times and has several times in the past month due to localized failure of the geomagnetic field. This has caused mostly very localized effects SO FAR, which include mass animal deaths, mass human deaths in Portugal, and failure of radio communications

AA, if able, please point me in a direction whereby I can research this 'phenomenon.'

Thanks,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


It is a totally new phenomenon brought on by the radical weakening , reversals, and dissociation of the Earths magnetic field which is uncharted territory in human experience. Normally the earths magnetic field goes from pole to pole and the charged participles remain trapped in the magnetic field well above the Earth, but recently multiple poles have been detected. These represent areas where the charged particles of the radiation belts CAN AND DO come in contact with the Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 12083302


BULLSHIT

See no other source but his deluded rantings

He does a pretty good job with the participle theory though

No multiple poles have been detected except in AA's head
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Actually this is well confirmed by multiple SCIENTIFIC sources including ironically, NASA> The North pole is now moving so fast that compasses are becoming obsolesce, satiric and at times useless.
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I typed obsolete, erratic and at times useless. My post was edited to nonsense in real time.
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Humm, another of AA's side show tennis matches with the government shills, one page back, while I was writing this tome.

I've always felt "ego" was healthy...it's low self-esteem that is at the center of so many problems...in my eyes. And the false projection of it encouraged by our culture is just annoying.
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The ego of the common man, is not really about self at all, but about reflecting on what one thinks that others might be thinking about them. I suggest that this kind of egoisim of any culture is invariably a blinder that blocks one from intuiting their environment directly (but in a way perhaps more difficult to describe). There may be a different class of egoism though.

I would suggest that ego is only healthy if practiced by what I perceive as a "fourth stage warrior", one who has already gone through a total cleansing and arrived at a selflessness, egolessness, and having attained that can chose to turn on at will, and more importantly switch off, like an actor does, or controlled folly as the infamous but respected Castaneda described it.

I have a compadre, or perhaps I should say "grandfather", here who is of a verified ancient occult native Mexican lineage.

A while back I brought up a subject that really makes most of the more authentic native Americans squirm, the late Peruvian author Carlos Castaneda, who wrote a series of books, books which started simple and got progressively more complex through 12 books written, and purporting to be true anthropological knowledge of occult Mexican shamans. Castaneda is popularly considered as "debunked", at least to the North American types, through the (highly questionable) debunking work of Richard Demille.

Natives in general seem uncomfortable about Carlos Castaneda, but don't seemed to be particularly concerned about the supposed superficial issues that Demille uses in his debunking however, but natives seem rather seem more hesitant about a difference in style, language, and syntax (as Castaneda described it) between the way Castaneda described the shamaistic experience, compared to how most natives describe it. The issue of the incidental facts, or even more basic facts in the story telling, however may fall away as ultimately unimportant to the native point of view.

So I breached the uncomfortable topic of Carlos Castaneda with shaman Aguilar asking about a few things Castaneda claimed were general Mexican occult practice, such as recapitulation, the remembering of all of ones life memories, for an after life purpose.

Considering that Carlos spent most of the 1940's and 50's in Southern California intensely studying every occult culture of the world he could come across, Carlos was really very qualified to be the great plagiarist like the North American type of minds accused him of being. The technique and purpose Carlos describes really sounds like the technique and purpose that the Rosicrucians describe to occult initiates.

The shaman said, "Yes, recapitulation is a common occult Mexican practice, but to us recapitulation of all the memories of our ancestors is just as important as recapitulation of our own life memories."

I replied something like, "Oh then, that is like the idea of "channeling" knowledge then."

He said, "No, you still don't get it. You need to learn to understand the world the way a native does."

He brought out a beautiful harp he had been intensely working on all year, incrusted with all kinds of meaningful Nahuatl symbols. He showed how held if held one way it looked like an ancient Egyptian sail boat, and how when held the other way it looks like a bow and arrow set.

I asked if that was a historic native or Mexican design of an instrument, and he said "No, it came purely from my dreams and visions and no historic similarity to anything."

I then realized that some people would lack respect for his work because it was not a supposed "authentic" native reproduction or tradition that he was showing, and yet on the other hand if it were a native form that he produced others could accuse him of merely copying the work, and thus lack talent. These are the North American ways of seeing the authenticity issue and it's a situation of Damned if you do and Damned if you don't.

But then he told me that the real authentic shamans who live the spirit of their traditions are unique and fluid individuals. The issues of something being of a prior tradition, thus discrediting ability of the practitioner as experiencing any original seeing, of having "just some belief", in the eyes of the onlooker, or of coming up with something original and just being described as eccentric with no "authentic" ties, that these are purely issues of egoism, of being concerned of what other people think, one way or the other.

"No", he told me. "We first do what our heart calls us to do, knowing some of our traditions it is true, but always fluid with our own original heart and seeing. That is the true native tradition, something which often falls out side of the western way of classifying and rating things."

He said, "The authenticity of Castaneda is really a non-issue to one who understands the real native mind. The only important issue is if Castaneda had sufficient clarity and reality in his seeing to carry others along with him in his understanding, or if his teachings panned out in practice."

"To be an egoless and fluid warrior one needs to place the direct appreciation of self first, ahead of the perceived of appreciation of others to self."

That seems to say, paradoxically perhaps, to be ego-less one must always keep ones self awareness and appreciation of self as more important than outside opinions.


After reading you carefully AA, you seem to be presenting solar related possibilities with sufficient uncertainty where warranted, to remain in the scientific realm of theory with an open mind, rather than the simple doom-sayer that your detractors like to label you as.

I think you would admit AA that it is also possible that the solar system might pass through this dark material without a loss of the earths magnetosphere, without a pole reversal, and possibly without much increased problems to life on earth, that this is a possibility, but it does not negate the necessity to study another more serious future possibility. A warrior, or good scientist, always considers all options and should not blind them self through one bias or another.

You do cause some of us worry though about how you go off inflaming side issues that would seem to be off topic. I only hope you know well what you are doing and why, whether you call it egoism or whatever. Knowledge is worth nothing, or worse, without wisdom. The smart kids are (sometimes) the ones who get into the most serious trouble.

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Not normally they don't, but when the Earths magnetic field is failing and becoming unstable, the ionosphere can actually come in contact with the EARTHS SURFACE. You are quite ignorant and relying strictly in conventional 'wisdom', which no longer applies because things are changing radically with the Earth and the solar system. My best guess based on tier behavior is that their brain function was disrupted by a high flux density of charged particles.
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Which shows how deluded dumb and cracked you are
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You have no idea what you are babbling on about. You don't know a damned thing about the subject matter except that you have read the ionosphere normally occupies the area between 100 and 250 miles in height above the Earth on wikipedia, the jewish edited encyclopedia of disinformation.. What you DON'T know is the Earths magnetic field is what holds these charged particles in position and they follow these field lines, and where the magnetic field goes the particles follow. Since there was no CME this had to be it. Magnetic anomalies are being reported world wide on a daily basis, they've even had to reset IFR for aircraft because the pole is moving so fast and the magnetic field is forming multiple poles. Not only that, but the south Atlantic anomaly has reached almost to the east coast of the US (which was the real reason for the rockets NASA launched, to see how badly it has progressed)
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You are the one who has no clue bub and I take great comfort in that.

You don't know the difference between the Van Allen radiation belts the magnetosphere and the ionosphere.

You have never had an original thought in your life that was remotely correct
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Now let me get your little mind in line with reality.The magnetosphere is the magnetic field around the Earth. It is powered by the electron flux from the Sun interacting with the ferrous core. The van allen radiation belts are charged particles, electrons and protons, captured and caught by the magnetosphere. The ionosphere is the lower part of the radiation belts.

Are we clear now? If not I suggest you cannot be taught and need to leave the thread,
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I agree with you. I find what you presented intensely interesting.

Check out my thread I will create tomorrow. I will share what was shown to me in dreams the past two nights concerning this. The solar output is will magnify in the near future as we have never seen it before.

Good info. hf
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Imagine the bottom chart on here, [link to www.solarham.com] but with the chart lines exceeding far above the highest value on it...
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Brother I use that site frequently. Has it sold out too?.
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I don't believe so. At least not yet. What I was shown(and will post about tomorrow) was how the chart will look like one day soon when the activity of the sun intensifies beyond anything we have seen so far.

hf
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we already know about a killshot in the future, we do nt have to have you tell us the suns future, unless you have a date when this will happen, better than just saying in the future.
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Humm, another of AA's side show tennis matches with the government shills, one page back, while I was writing this tome.

I've always felt "ego" was healthy...it's low self-esteem that is at the center of so many problems...in my eyes. And the false projection of it encouraged by our culture is just annoying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 12083302


The ego of the common man, is not really about self at all, but about reflecting on what one thinks that others might be thinking about them. I suggest that this kind of egoisim of any culture is invariably a blinder that blocks one from intuiting their environment directly (but in a way perhaps more difficult to describe). There may be a different class of egoism though.

I would suggest that ego is only healthy if practiced by what I perceive as a "fourth stage warrior", one who has already gone through a total cleansing and arrived at a selflessness, egolessness, and having attained that can chose to turn on at will, and more importantly switch off, like an actor does, or controlled folly as the infamous but respected Castaneda described it.

I have a compadre, or perhaps I should say "grandfather", here who is of a verified ancient occult native Mexican lineage.

A while back I brought up a subject that really makes most of the more authentic native Americans squirm, the late Peruvian author Carlos Castaneda, who wrote a series of books, books which started simple and got progressively more complex through 12 books written, and purporting to be true anthropological knowledge of occult Mexican shamans. Castaneda is popularly considered as "debunked", at least to the North American types, through the (highly questionable) debunking work of Richard Demille.

Natives in general seem uncomfortable about Carlos Castaneda, but don't seemed to be particularly concerned about the supposed superficial issues that Demille uses in his debunking however, but natives seem rather seem more hesitant about a difference in style, language, and syntax (as Castaneda described it) between the way Castaneda described the shamaistic experience, compared to how most natives describe it. The issue of the incidental facts, or even more basic facts in the story telling, however may fall away as ultimately unimportant to the native point of view.

So I breached the uncomfortable topic of Carlos Castaneda with shaman Aguilar asking about a few things Castaneda claimed were general Mexican occult practice, such as recapitulation, the remembering of all of ones life memories, for an after life purpose.

Considering that Carlos spent most of the 1940's and 50's in Southern California intensely studying every occult culture of the world he could come across. Carlos was really very qualified to be the great plagiarist like the North American type of minds accused him of being. The technique and purpose Carlos describes really sounds like the technique and purpose that the Rosicrucians describe to occult initiates.

The shaman said, "Yes, recapitulation is a common occult Mexican practice, but to us recapitulation of all the memories of our ancestors is just as important as recapitulation of our own life memories."

I replied something like, "Oh then, that is like the idea of "channeling" knowledge then."

He said, "No, you still don't get it. You need to learn to understand the world the way a native does."

He brought out a beautiful harp he had been intensely working on all year, incrusted with all kinds of meaningful Nahuatl symbols. He showed how held if held one way it looked like an ancient Egyptian sail boat, and how when held the other way it looks like a bow and arrow set.

I asked if that was a historic native or Mexican design of an instrument, and he said "No, it came purely from my dreams and visions and no historic similarity to anything."

I then realized that some people would lack respect for his work because it was not a supposed "authentic" native reproduction or tradition that he was showing, and yet on the other hand if it were a native form that he produced others could accuse him of merely copying the work, and thus lack talent. These are the North American ways of seeing the authenticity issue and it's a situation of Damned if you do and Damned if you don't.

But then he told me that the real authentic shamans who live the spirit of their traditions are unique and fluid individuals. The issues of something being of a prior tradition, thus discrediting ability of the practitioner as experiencing any original seeing, of having "just some belief", in the eyes of the onlooker, or of coming up with something original and just being described as eccentric with no "authentic" ties, that these are purely issues of egoism, of being concerned of what other people think, one way or the other.

"No", he told me. "We first do what our heart calls us to do, knowing some of our traditions it is true, but always fluid with our own original heart and seeing. That is the true native tradition, something which often falls out side of the western way of classifying and rating things."

He said, "The authenticity of Castaneda is really a non-issue to one who understands the real native mind. The only important issue is if Castaneda had sufficient clarity and reality in his seeing to carry others along with him in his understanding, or if his teachings panned out in practice."

"To be an egoless and fluid warrior one needs to place the direct appreciation of self first, ahead of the perceived of appreciation of others to self."

That seems to say, paradoxically perhaps, to be ego-less one must always keep ones self awareness and appreciation of self as more important than outside opinions.


After reading you carefully AA, you seem to be presenting solar related possibilities with sufficient uncertainty where warranted, to remain in the scientific realm of theory with an open mind, rather than the simple doom-sayer that your detractors like to label you as.

I think you would admit AA that it is also possible that the solar system might pass through this dark material without a loss of the earths magnetosphere, without a pole reversal, and possibly without much increased problems to life on earth, that this is a possibility, but it does not negate the necessity to study another more serious future possibility. A warrior, or good scientist, always considers all options and should not blind them self through one bias or another.

You do cause some of us worry though about how you go off inflaming side issues that would seem to be off topic. I only hope you know well what you are doing and why, whether you call it egoism or whatever. Knowledge is worth nothing, or worse, without wisdom. The smart kids are the ones who get into the most serious trouble.
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Nice read, kinda what I was getting at in my earlier 'spiritual post.' (But without the 'ego' spin)

Thanks,

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Try watching this:
[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov:8080]

or the ring current on this set of simulations:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]

I have seen the magnetopause come so close to the earth it seemed like it was goind to touch it, twice in the past few weeks during the extreme activity. When that happens, what do you think is going to be the result of that occurance? Not a normal everyday event, but does happen.
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A.A did actually explain this a couple of weeks ago, in language even the shit for brains could understand... guess they didn't do their homework.

tounge
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Did he explain why the Wind Speed chart on the Model was screwed up? Someone that I believe works with the model explained to me that the ACE satellite has problems with the real time data during extreme events causing dropouts and lost data. You can clearly see on my video at time 1:20 that the wind speed chart is FUBAR. This was noted at those 'event' times. I wouldn't trust that model one bit as long as the charts are FUBAR.

Look for the posts by jacklee1961: [link to www.youtube.com]


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Someone want to explain why the ACE Wind Speed Chart is totally Screwed during these supposed reversals? I must have missed it if it was explained previously. I'd really like your thoughts on why the ACE data seems to be faulty at those times.

Time 1:20 in the above video.
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I see no one wants to take a shot at explaining the nonsense the SWMF/BATS-R-US Model displays for ACE Wind Speed during these alleged reversals. I'll bump the question again tomorrow...
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Nice read, kinda what I was getting at in my earlier 'spiritual post.' (But without the 'ego' spin)

Thanks,

DP
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Link please? I don't have paid status to search users posts.

I've posted for years as Henry Morgan at the obscure Twilight Zone blog moderated by Blackbeard in Holland. [link to www.artforthemasses.us]
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(note that this particular theory IS NOT referenced to me nor anyone else, and I am the one who postulated it. It juts says 'well known". Well sure it's well known now)
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Some good links there, will enjoy them I'm sure. I didn't realise quite old you are to have first postulated the galactic plane oscilation, I've found numerous references to this in papers from the mid 80's. So you are in your 50's? Why do constantly refer to telling people about for only 12 years, though? I still don't see how its suppressed knowledge tough if its getting published. Maybe I'm too stupid to see through the web of details.

Also don't think you are in any place to criticise others spelling when your posts are littered with spelling errors and typos. Maybe you don't see it in your own posts. I reckon you don't see a lot.
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First off let's start off with the sources you claim reference the oscillation theory, in other words post them so we can all read hem and get to the bottom of it.

It's 'realize' , 'oscillation' and criticize, and I doubt you can find spelling errors other than an omitted letter in any of my writings.
Believe me when I tell you that you are very stupid. You claim to have read references to papers from the mid 80's postulating the oscillation theory yet mainstream science doesn't have a clue which side of the galactic plane we are even on , much less how far we are from it. The only thing they seem to know for sure is we aren't anywhere near it! How strange that is, or is it?

And let me tell you another little fact, people lie.
It is quite easy to say you have reference to a paper written in the mid 80's that you read on the internet, and you may or may not, that remains to be seen depending on your response, but PROVING the date is original and not fabricated might prove bit difficult, let me rephrase that, unless you have a reference to the library of congress or some other unimpeachable source it is most likely simply predated and written after I postulated the theory. This is a very common practice in science especially among the chosen ones. Very few people very bother to check out the reference like I just did and there is no record of it in the Library of congress predating 2009 and that was a plagiarized version of my theory.
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Well, you can check the library of congress yourself or the publications themselves, they where from "Nature" periodical. Just punch in the terms galactic ocsilliation period (I think it was) and links to abstracts that mention the concept in passing (ie they are established knowledge even then) are on the first page, I'm sure any good university will have hard copies.

We can see from your aggressive responce dismissing the existance of such material that this conflicts with your position that you first postulated these ideas. I could go on to refute your connection with the links, or rather the body of research from others that back their work (unlike you who have nothing). But I don't have time, or inclination, I supposed to working on other projects but your delusion intrigues me as it is so complete yet obviously flawed. I see there are a couple of operatives already on this thread, probing and challenging you (one is very good, you constantly take their bait), so I should leave you all to it.
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AA- How do you predict that we will have a X-10 flare when 1429 is silent with no activity at all
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AA- In another video , they were mentioning that a solar system is 100 light year up of the galactic plane and its direction is going up . Our solar system will cross the galactic plane in 3 million years from now. Not sure wether it is right or wrong. If it is wrong why are they putting this info and misguiding the public?

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