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Does this Russian neutron monitor graph, and the dip on Apr. 5th, mean anything to you AA?

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Neutrons pass the heliosphere, and might somehow indicate the density of the much reported cloud of material. From what little I have heard about it.

Anything you might add about the origins of free neutrons?
 Quoting: ehecatl


Very nice! This is the kind of cooperation we need gathering data and yes that is EXACTLY what it means, most likely, that the neutrons encountered and obstacle between their source and Earth, and it is probably charged plasma.

Thanks again.

Free Neutrons in space moving at above light speed are probably the result of the supernova of stars. A very violent and energetic explosion that disintegrates matter down to the subatomic level and destroys the nucleus. It is also important to note that what are called super massive particles are present as well, which are the retirements of nuclei of heavier elements. Since we have little neutron emission from our own star, it is unlikely these originate from healthy stars or other celestial objects, but from very violent explosions occurring at a rather regular rate throughout the universe called supernovas. We might not even be able to see the source because the particles outrun the light perhaps by thousands of years. It is also important for you to realize that the neutron detector in Russia would be called the a cosmic ray decorator in the US because we have different people in control of our academics and science who will not openly admit to > light speed particles.
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That seems a relatively short duration drop (interuption - honestly have no clue) based on the overall stream of data. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Peace,

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Does this Russian neutron monitor graph, and the dip on Apr. 5th, mean anything to you AA?

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Neutrons pass the heliosphere, and might somehow indicate the density of the much reported cloud of material. From what little I have heard about it.

Anything you might add about the origins of free neutrons?
 Quoting: ehecatl


Very nice! This is the kind of cooperation we need gathering data and yes that is EXACTLY what it means, most likely, that the neutrons encountered and obstacle between their source and Earth, and it is probably charged plasma.

Thanks again.

Free Neutrons in space moving at above light speed are probably the result of the supernova of stars. A very violent and energetic explosion that disintegrates matter down to the subatomic level and destroys the nucleus. It is also important to note that what are called super massive particles are present as well, which are the retirements of nuclei of heavier elements. Since we have little neutron emission from our own star, it is unlikely these originate from healthy stars or other celestial objects, but from very violent explosions occurring at a rather regular rate throughout the universe called supernovas. We might not even be able to see the source because the particles outrun the light perhaps by thousands of years. It is also important for you to realize that the neutron detector in Russia would be called the a cosmic ray decorator in the US because we have different people in control of our academics and science who will not openly admit to > light speed particles.
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That seems a relatively short duration drop (interuption - honestly have no clue) based on the overall stream of data. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Peace,

DP
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And it is EXACTLY as would be expected. Dont forget, we ARE moving relative to the plasma.
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Looking at the chart again, I see there is a correlation between the last unexplained geomagnetic storm and a drop in the neutron count. We have found a way to detect the presence of charged magnetic plasma around the Earth independent of a confirmation by official sources. This is very encouraging.
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for those of you who are not aware of the significance of what we are seeing on this monitor, for one thing the current neutron flux is about go off their scale, meaning beyond their experience. I am not sure what to make of this, except that undoubtedly there is a much higher concentration of highly energetic neutrons in the galactic plane, which would be totally expected! This is phenomenal!
_______________________________________________

At the lower part of the chart you see this:

Moscow neutron monitor variation for last 30 days
corresponds to 10-20 GeV primary cosmic rays.
Updated every hour.

Now let me inform you of what GeV means. It means billions of electron volts, and a neutron in order to have billions of electron volts of energy potential must be moving well in excess of light speed. This means essentially that the Russians have long since abandoned the idea that mass (a neutron has an atomic mass of @ 1) cannot exceed light speed, pulling the plug on Einstein. You will see NO SUCH indication in western academics or science!
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But...When I click on the other links, the current level looks normal.

Try, Monthly data for the whole period of observations: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
Kinda seems to follow Solar cycles...
Daily data for last 670 days: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Makes the 30 day reading seem insignificant: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

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for those of you who are not aware of the significance of what we are seeing on this monitor, for one thing the current neutron flux is about go off their scale, meaning beyond their experience. I am not sure what to make of this, except that undoubtedly there is a much higher concentration of highly energetic neutrons in the galactic plane, which would be totally expected! This is phenomenal!
_______________________________________________

At the lower part of the chart you see this:

Moscow neutron monitor variation for last 30 days
corresponds to 10-20 GeV primary cosmic rays.
Updated every hour.

Now let me inform you of what GeV means. It means billions of electron volts, and a neutron in order to have billions of electron volts of energy potential must be moving well in excess of light speed. This means essentially that the Russians have long since abandoned the idea that mass (a neutron has an atomic mass of @ 1) cannot exceed light speed, pulling the plug on Einstein. You will see NO SUCH indication in western academics or science!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


Would this indicate heliosphere distortion or elongation as mass loading seems to be occurring? Is there a point at which the heliosphere will fail to deflect cosmic bombardment because of this? Do you think it is already happening, considering previously reported anomalies?

I'm not sure if I'm asking the right questions.

~
wb
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But...When I click on the other links, the current level looks normal.

Try, Monthly data for the whole period of observations: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
Kinda seems to follow Solar cycles...
Daily data for last 670 days: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Makes the 30 day reading seem insignificant: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

scratching
 Quoting: TBar1984


I see for one thing that they change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary and there is no doubt that the neutron flux drops during solar maxes. This is caused by the solar wind being stronger and heliosphere growing. But what we are seeing now is the exact opposite, my friend.

As for cosmic rays dropping during solar maxes, This is a well established and known fact, nothing new.

What is worrisome about the data we are looking at is it is NOT following that general pattern and that there is a definite correlation between unexplained geomagnetic disturbances and a radical drop in neutron flux levels. In other words, what you have just proved is that things are not as usual, but you did show that they do change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary, which is somewhat relieving.
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for those of you who are not aware of the significance of what we are seeing on this monitor, for one thing the current neutron flux is about go off their scale, meaning beyond their experience. I am not sure what to make of this, except that undoubtedly there is a much higher concentration of highly energetic neutrons in the galactic plane, which would be totally expected! This is phenomenal!
_______________________________________________

At the lower part of the chart you see this:

Moscow neutron monitor variation for last 30 days
corresponds to 10-20 GeV primary cosmic rays.
Updated every hour.

Now let me inform you of what GeV means. It means billions of electron volts, and a neutron in order to have billions of electron volts of energy potential must be moving well in excess of light speed. This means essentially that the Russians have long since abandoned the idea that mass (a neutron has an atomic mass of @ 1) cannot exceed light speed, pulling the plug on Einstein. You will see NO SUCH indication in western academics or science!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


Would this indicate heliosphere distortion or elongation as mass loading seems to be occurring? Is there a point at which the heliosphere will fail to deflect cosmic bombardment because of this? Do you think it is already happening, considering previously reported anomalies?

I'm not sure if I'm asking the right questions.

~
wb
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We should be seeing an increase in the average solar wind speed and density and an increase in the strength and size of heliosphere, but we are seeing the opposite. We are also seeing correlating unexplained drops in neutron flux and geomagnetic storms, indicating the presence of dense magnetically charged plasma around the Earth IMHO>
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We should be seeing an increase in the average solar wind speed and density and an increase in the strength and size of heliosphere, but we are seeing the opposite. We are also seeing correlating unexplained drops in neutron flux and geomagnetic storms, indicating the presence of dense magnetically charged plasma around the Earth IMHO>
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Substantiated by increased intensity and southern migration of aurora borealis?

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I know this is a bit off topic, but i wonder when western science is going to abandon Einstein and finally admit his theories were wrong?
With the empirical evidence that we have, there is no reason these so called theories should any longer be presented to students involved in the advanced study of physics. I am not one to demand that ideas be covered up or books burned, but teaching known falsehoods is counterproductive to the advancement of science. It is long past the time we demand academia admit Einstein was what he actually was, an artificially propped up and media promoted false god of science that was a fraud and a total airhead.

It is personal goal of mine to see the Jewish Nobel Physics laureates defrocked as frauds. The fact is these people do not have scientifically oriented minds and have well known propensity for plagiarizing the ideas of others in such a way as to destroy the basic underlying idea, they don't make good scientists and none of the real greats were jewish.

If you've been paying attention, you know why western science calls a neutron moving faster than light a cosmic ray, and this is simply because jues control the physics (and science in general) departments in every major university as well as the dolling out of funds for research, and they will never admit what they have done.

They have intentionally mislead us to keep us in bondage.

What I am getting at is if you are intent on learning about physics and the true nature of the universe, you are not going to learn it at university. You must engage in individual research and concentrate on non mainstream ideas. As I have said before, turds flow with the current and they tend to float to the top. It is the nature of our society.

In university under traditional jueish academic rule, you will repeat experiments that have results that tend to support GR and SR, but it will never be admitted to you that these are no longer valid theories and have been falsified long ago by empirical observations and the fact that applying the formula to real life engineering problems consistently fails.
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We should be seeing an increase in the average solar wind speed and density and an increase in the strength and size of heliosphere, but we are seeing the opposite. We are also seeing correlating unexplained drops in neutron flux and geomagnetic storms, indicating the presence of dense magnetically charged plasma around the Earth IMHO>
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Substantiated by increased intensity and southern migration of aurora borealis?

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Most definitely. We are seeing low latitude auroras with no corresponding solar activity. We are seeing X-5level X ray events with no real solar flare.

Something is causing it, and it isn't our imagination. Magnetically charged plasma would do it. As I have repeatedly stated, the presence of such material would be a highly conductive media for charged particles and electromagnetic radiation.
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for those of you who are not aware of the significance of what we are seeing on this monitor, for one thing the current neutron flux is about go off their scale, meaning beyond their experience. I am not sure what to make of this, except that undoubtedly there is a much higher concentration of highly energetic neutrons in the galactic plane, which would be totally expected! This is phenomenal!
_______________________________________________

At the lower part of the chart you see this:

Moscow neutron monitor variation for last 30 days
corresponds to 10-20 GeV primary cosmic rays.
Updated every hour.

Now let me inform you of what GeV means. It means billions of electron volts, and a neutron in order to have billions of electron volts of energy potential must be moving well in excess of light speed. This means essentially that the Russians have long since abandoned the idea that mass (a neutron has an atomic mass of @ 1) cannot exceed light speed, pulling the plug on Einstein. You will see NO SUCH indication in western academics or science!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


Would this indicate heliosphere distortion or elongation as mass loading seems to be occurring? Is there a point at which the heliosphere will fail to deflect cosmic bombardment because of this? Do you think it is already happening, considering previously reported anomalies?

I'm not sure if I'm asking the right questions.

~
wb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


We should be seeing an increase in the average solar wind speed and density and an increase in the strength and size of heliosphere, but we are seeing the opposite. We are also seeing correlating unexplained drops in neutron flux and geomagnetic storms, indicating the presence of dense magnetically charged plasma around the Earth IMHO>
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


As a novice seeking enlightenment, you state that neutrons given the proper catelyst can travel in excess of the speed of light. This then would also mean the energetic force contained with this particle would be EXTREME. Could a densely charge plasma cloud dampen these cosmic rays given the enormous amount of energy required to propel them faster than the speed of light?

Peace,

DP
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for those of you who are not aware of the significance of what we are seeing on this monitor, for one thing the current neutron flux is about go off their scale, meaning beyond their experience. I am not sure what to make of this, except that undoubtedly there is a much higher concentration of highly energetic neutrons in the galactic plane, which would be totally expected! This is phenomenal!
_______________________________________________

At the lower part of the chart you see this:

Moscow neutron monitor variation for last 30 days
corresponds to 10-20 GeV primary cosmic rays.
Updated every hour.

Now let me inform you of what GeV means. It means billions of electron volts, and a neutron in order to have billions of electron volts of energy potential must be moving well in excess of light speed. This means essentially that the Russians have long since abandoned the idea that mass (a neutron has an atomic mass of @ 1) cannot exceed light speed, pulling the plug on Einstein. You will see NO SUCH indication in western academics or science!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


Would this indicate heliosphere distortion or elongation as mass loading seems to be occurring? Is there a point at which the heliosphere will fail to deflect cosmic bombardment because of this? Do you think it is already happening, considering previously reported anomalies?

I'm not sure if I'm asking the right questions.

~
wb
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295673


We should be seeing an increase in the average solar wind speed and density and an increase in the strength and size of heliosphere, but we are seeing the opposite. We are also seeing correlating unexplained drops in neutron flux and geomagnetic storms, indicating the presence of dense magnetically charged plasma around the Earth IMHO>
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


As a novice seeking enlightenment, you state that neutrons given the proper catelyst can travel in excess of the speed of light. This then would also mean the energetic force contained with this particle would be EXTREME. Could a densely charge plasma cloud dampen these cosmic rays given the enormous amount of energy required to propel them faster than the speed of light?

Peace,

DP
 Quoting: DoomPoon


Yes, because the total amount of mass the neutrons must pass through is not determined strictly by the density of material through which they are passing, but the distance as well. In other words a ten thousand miles of fairly dense plasma could equal 6 feet of lead as far as attenuating highly energetic particles is concerned.
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for those of you who are not aware of the significance of what we are seeing on this monitor, for one thing the current neutron flux is about go off their scale, meaning beyond their experience. I am not sure what to make of this, except that undoubtedly there is a much higher concentration of highly energetic neutrons in the galactic plane, which would be totally expected! This is phenomenal!
_______________________________________________

At the lower part of the chart you see this:

Moscow neutron monitor variation for last 30 days
corresponds to 10-20 GeV primary cosmic rays.
Updated every hour.

Now let me inform you of what GeV means. It means billions of electron volts, and a neutron in order to have billions of electron volts of energy potential must be moving well in excess of light speed. This means essentially that the Russians have long since abandoned the idea that mass (a neutron has an atomic mass of @ 1) cannot exceed light speed, pulling the plug on Einstein. You will see NO SUCH indication in western academics or science!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


Would this indicate heliosphere distortion or elongation as mass loading seems to be occurring? Is there a point at which the heliosphere will fail to deflect cosmic bombardment because of this? Do you think it is already happening, considering previously reported anomalies?

I'm not sure if I'm asking the right questions.

~
wb
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We should be seeing an increase in the average solar wind speed and density and an increase in the strength and size of heliosphere, but we are seeing the opposite. We are also seeing correlating unexplained drops in neutron flux and geomagnetic storms, indicating the presence of dense magnetically charged plasma around the Earth IMHO>
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484


As a novice seeking enlightenment, you state that neutrons given the proper catelyst can travel in excess of the speed of light. This then would also mean the energetic force contained with this particle would be EXTREME. Could a densely charge plasma cloud dampen these cosmic rays given the enormous amount of energy required to propel them faster than the speed of light?

Peace,

DP
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BTW, it is not in question whether or not neutrons exceed light speed and it is not theoretical. It is a daily observation. As I said, this is why 'they' call it 'cosmic rays' or 'cosmic radiation' instead on neutrons or protons, because doing so would falsify GR and SR instantaneously.
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But...When I click on the other links, the current level looks normal.

Try, Monthly data for the whole period of observations: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
Kinda seems to follow Solar cycles...
Daily data for last 670 days: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Makes the 30 day reading seem insignificant: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

scratching
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I see for one thing that they change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary and there is no doubt that the neutron flux drops during solar maxes. This is caused by the solar wind being stronger and heliosphere growing. But what we are seeing now is the exact opposite, my friend.

As for cosmic rays dropping during solar maxes, This is a well established and known fact, nothing new.

What is worrisome about the data we are looking at is it is NOT following that general pattern and that there is a definite correlation between unexplained geomagnetic disturbances and a radical drop in neutron flux levels. In other words, what you have just proved is that things are not as usual, but you did show that they do change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary, which is somewhat relieving.
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Kinda goes along with just how weak this solar max has been, doesn't it.
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AA- What are the effects of increase or decrease in neutrons in the space between the sun and earth.

Also accordingly to you now it is confirmed that our solar system has entered the plasma cloud???
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from space weather.com [link to www.spaceweather.com]

Solar wind
speed: 401.4 km/sec
density: 0.0 protons/cm3

The solar wind velocity is somewhat normal, but the proton density is a bit low

We need to look at a few more sources.

[link to www.n3kl.org]

The above source is showing low but normal proton flux density at the GOES satellites, I am wondering where Space Weather is getting their data?


[link to www2.nict.go.jp]

ACE is showing a proton density of 0 as well. This means the solar wind consists entirely of electrons and neutrons.
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But...When I click on the other links, the current level looks normal.

Try, Monthly data for the whole period of observations: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
Kinda seems to follow Solar cycles...
Daily data for last 670 days: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Makes the 30 day reading seem insignificant: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

scratching
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I see for one thing that they change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary and there is no doubt that the neutron flux drops during solar maxes. This is caused by the solar wind being stronger and heliosphere growing. But what we are seeing now is the exact opposite, my friend.

As for cosmic rays dropping during solar maxes, This is a well established and known fact, nothing new.

What is worrisome about the data we are looking at is it is NOT following that general pattern and that there is a definite correlation between unexplained geomagnetic disturbances and a radical drop in neutron flux levels. In other words, what you have just proved is that things are not as usual, but you did show that they do change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary, which is somewhat relieving.
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Kinda goes along with just how weak this solar max has been, doesn't it.
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Do you think that is a good sign? Just a question offhand.
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I'll lay 1000 to one odds the same thing blocking solar proton emissions is the same thing that is causing the unusual geomagnetic activity.
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I know where GOES is located, does anyone know offhand where the ACE satellites position is? I will look it up. Whatever is blocking protons is between the two or ACE has lost it's proton detector, which I do not think is the case since it shows readings of protons over the last few days
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But...When I click on the other links, the current level looks normal.

Try, Monthly data for the whole period of observations: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
Kinda seems to follow Solar cycles...
Daily data for last 670 days: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

Makes the 30 day reading seem insignificant: [link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]

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I see for one thing that they change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary and there is no doubt that the neutron flux drops during solar maxes. This is caused by the solar wind being stronger and heliosphere growing. But what we are seeing now is the exact opposite, my friend.

As for cosmic rays dropping during solar maxes, This is a well established and known fact, nothing new.

What is worrisome about the data we are looking at is it is NOT following that general pattern and that there is a definite correlation between unexplained geomagnetic disturbances and a radical drop in neutron flux levels. In other words, what you have just proved is that things are not as usual, but you did show that they do change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary, which is somewhat relieving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1934484

Kinda goes along with just how weak this solar max has been, doesn't it.
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Do you think that is a good sign? Just a question offhand.
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I have been following the guys in this article for a while and think they are correct. The question is, just how long do we have before this area is even more over-run than usual with Canucks...

Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity
[link to www.space.com]
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Ace location:

[link to media.caltech.edu]

"The satellite is called the Advanced Composition Explorer, or ACE for short. Launched August 25, the satellite has reached its destination about a million miles from Earth toward the sun at a position known as L1. That's the point at which the gravitational pull from Earth and sun, plus centrifugal effects, exactly balance each other.

"So, a spacecraft can orbit this invisible point, maintaining a fixed distance from Earth as Earth orbits the sun"


GOES location:
[link to ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu]

35800 kilometers (22300 miles) above the earth,

SO, the GOES data is either being falsified (which I strongly feel is the case), or protons are somehow getting around whatever is blocking them from reaching the ACE satellite 1,000,000 miles out.
They don't want us to know the solar protons have stopped reaching the Earth or they are somehow bypassing whatever is blocking them from getting to the ACE satellite.

Any ideas?
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I see for one thing that they change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary and there is no doubt that the neutron flux drops during solar maxes. This is caused by the solar wind being stronger and heliosphere growing. But what we are seeing now is the exact opposite, my friend.

As for cosmic rays dropping during solar maxes, This is a well established and known fact, nothing new.

What is worrisome about the data we are looking at is it is NOT following that general pattern and that there is a definite correlation between unexplained geomagnetic disturbances and a radical drop in neutron flux levels. In other words, what you have just proved is that things are not as usual, but you did show that they do change the upper limit of the y axis as nessecary, which is somewhat relieving.
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Kinda goes along with just how weak this solar max has been, doesn't it.
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Do you think that is a good sign? Just a question offhand.
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I have been following the guys in this article for a while and think they are correct. The question is, just how long do we have before this area is even more over-run than usual with Canucks...

Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity
[link to www.space.com]
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It'll be the other way around. bud.
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Kinda goes along with just how weak this solar max has been, doesn't it.
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Do you think that is a good sign? Just a question offhand.
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I have been following the guys in this article for a while and think they are correct. The question is, just how long do we have before this area is even more over-run than usual with Canucks...

Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity
[link to www.space.com]
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It'll be the other way around. bud.
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We'll see, and, I really like my odds on this one.
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A.A. The earth gets aurora from the sun. Can the sun get "aurora" from outside sources?
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AA, can you please see pics of this Sun going all white like as if a huge explosion occurred and give us your views what actually happened then? [link to projectavalon.net]
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AA, can you please see pics of this Sun going all white like as if a huge explosion occurred and give us your views what actually happened then? [link to projectavalon.net]
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Thx for that, perked my antenna even more.

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AA, can you please see pics of this Sun going all white like as if a huge explosion occurred and give us your views what actually happened then? [link to projectavalon.net]
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I am assuming you are referring to this Lasco c3 image:
[link to projectavalon.net]


WOW~

It is definitely a glowing cloud of plasma, I am not sure if the source is the Sun but I doubt it. This is a lot of mass. No wonder they are censoring the C2 image.

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