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mag field compromised severely, I am [posting from my shelter

Proton flux is abnormally high considering the lack of solar wind, the lower proton belt of the Van Allen belt must be or is touching the surface.
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>>I am [posting from my shelter<<

hi AA, why in shelter? what are the results of short term exposure and are they imediate?

Ive been reading the thread and I may have missed it since Ive been reading so much other stuff lately so can you refresh my memory please?

it is increasingly obvious that something is happening with the sun rays too.

this morning when it came up it was allready white and bright and not orange as it used to be. chemtrails are much heavier than usual also.


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I've had more than my share of radiation exposure in my job and the during the last solar max, my health is fading, I can't take any more radiation exposure. I reacted '(briefly) to a highly elevated flux of high enegry protons at my location here on the surface. It might have been localized, it was short lived.
I 'm not sure exactly what happened but I suspect the magnetic field lines came in contact with the Earth surface, but I could feel it and that's when you know it's time to take shelter.
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mag field compromised severely, I am [posting from my shelter

Proton flux is abnormally high considering the lack of solar wind, the lower proton belt of the Van Allen belt must be or is touching the surface.
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what are you talking about? Proton flux is normal:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Well, you need to a)read the thread title. And b)understand that these events can be very local if they involve the lower proton belt if the Van Allen radiation belts coming in contact with the Earths surface.

No one even knows what caused this, I'm not sure myself. There was a dramatic drop in electron flux followed by an almost complete failure of the geomagnetic field last night though. Remember, electrons in the solar wind are what powers the earth protective shield. The solar wind almost completely subsided.
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>>I am [posting from my shelter<<

hi AA, why in shelter? what are the results of short term exposure and are they imediate?

Ive been reading the thread and I may have missed it since Ive been reading so much other stuff lately so can you refresh my memory please?

it is increasingly obvious that something is happening with the sun rays too.

this morning when it came up it was allready white and bright and not orange as it used to be. chemtrails are much heavier than usual also.


thanks
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At a high enough flux density and energy as is in the lower proton belt of the Van Allen radiation belts, protons can cause death within hours of the exposure.
As for the color of the Sun at sunrise, that is combination of two factors, a loss of a significant part of the outer atmosphere (Ozone in particular) and an actual change in the Suns photosphere's temperature. White is hotter than yellow, as previously explained.
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At a high enough flux density and energy as is in the lower proton belt of the Van Allen radiation belts, protons can cause death within hours of the exposure.
As for the color of the Sun at sunrise, that is combination of two factors, a loss of a significant part of the outer atmosphere (Ozone in particular) and an actual change in the Suns photosphere's temperature. White is hotter than yellow, as previously explained.
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I honestly could not belive how white and bright the sun was this morning at 10am. The heat hitting the skin through the glass of my car was stupidly hot aswell.
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I have been following this and NINZ' thread about this event today. Amazing that there has been such little attention given to an event driven by an unknown cause.
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I have been following this and NINZ' thread about this event today. Amazing that there has been such little attention given to an event driven by an unknown cause.
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What I can tell you thus far is that for a short while here in East Texas, high energy protons saturated my measuring equipment and 'pegged the needle' so to speak, and the most likely cause was the magnetic field lines of the Earths lower high energy proton rich layer of the van Allen radiation belt coming in contact with the Earths surface. It lasted for over an hour and presently there is very little proton flux. This was a very serious event and it impacted every living thing in this area. I feel very drained even though i took shelter and only came out briefly to observe any unusual activity in both people and animals, and to get my dog out of her pen.
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I have been following this and NINZ' thread about this event today. Amazing that there has been such little attention given to an event driven by an unknown cause.
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Your average person is more interested in the posts like "omg my cat farted" or "obama bla bla bla" or "Iran bla bla bla".
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Anonymous Astophysicist do you know what is causing these events with the sun?
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Anonymous Astophysicist do you know what is causing these events with the sun?
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Yes. The solar system is nearing the galactic plane, where predictable but previously unseen electromagnetic forces and a gradually increasing plasma density are acting upon the solar system as a whole, changing the heliosphere, interfering with the Suns magnetic field, the Earths magnetic field, and fueling the Sun with plasma which is pulled into the Suns gravitational field.
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Anonymous Astophysicist do you know what is causing these events with the sun?
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Yes. The solar system is nearing the galactic plane, where predictable but previously unseen electromagnetic forces and a gradually increasing plasma density are acting upon the solar system as a whole, changing the heliosphere, interfering with the Suns magnetic field, the Earths magnetic field, and fueling the Sun with plasma which is pulled into the Suns gravitational field.
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Looking back you mentioned 11:11am 21st December, can you go into a bit more detail?
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Pin this thread!
There are dozens of threads on this subject being pinned authored by know nothings. I am probably one of only a very few people in the world who has any idea what is happening and why and is willing it publicize it, and what is going to happen and when.
While this might sound egotistical, based on what I've seen and the fact that not a single traditionally educated astrophysicist has any idea what is happening ,I believe this thread should be pinned so it will be seen by more people than it is.

The traditionally educated astrophysicist cannot possibly understand what is happening because he can't possibly understand it within his scope of understanding based on what he was taught, because quantum physics is a fraud and false theory.

THE UNIVERSE IS ELECTRIC. THE STRONGEST FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE IS ELECTROMAGNETISM, AND NOT GRAVITY AS WE WILL ALL SEE AS WE ENTER THE GALACTIC PLANE. GRAVITY IS A WEAK FORCE COMPARED TO ELECTROMAGNETISM AND IS ACTUALLY A WEAKER FORM OF IT.
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>>quantum physics is a fraud and false theory.<<

are you certain of this and if so can you show how you are certain of it?

thanks
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Anonymous Astophysicist do you know what is causing these events with the sun?
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Please excuse me for my delayed response, I have been very busy with personal matters.
Yes. The solar system is nearing the galactic plane, where predictable but previously unseen electromagnetic forces and a gradually increasing plasma density are acting upon the solar system as a whole, changing the heliosphere, interfering with the Suns magnetic field, the Earths magnetic field, and fueling the Sun with plasma which is pulled into the Suns gravitational field.
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Looking back you mentioned 11:11am 21st December, can you go into a bit more detail?
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It is arguable how the Mayans obtained such a wealth of astronomical knowledge and this thread is not for the discussion of that subject.

Suffice it to say, they predicted the solar and lunar eclipses of the last few years to within a window of minutes of accuracy and their calculations state that 12/21/12 @ 11:11 am EST is when we will cross the galactic plane.

Because of some other significance events occurring simultaneously , I am certain the events I described will transpire. What I do not know is how severe the results will be and how widespread the actual damage from the arcing of electromagnetic and particle radiation. I could destroy a whole state or even a whole continent, and it will most definitely severely deplete the atmosphere.
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I will go over this once more. On December 21, 2012 at 11:11 EST the Earth and the ecliptic plane of the solar system will cross the galactic plane of the Milky way galaxy.

At this exact time, the Sun, the Earth and the galactic plane will align precisely for the fort time in human history, not in two dimensions as they do every year on the winter solstice (which in of itself is quite the coincidence), but in three dimensions since the ecliptic and galactic planes will be in the same plane at the same time.

At this time the Sun's 11 year cycle of solar flare activity will peak, just as the Earth reaches it's closest approach to the Sun itself.

The Galactic center will be opposite the Sun with the Earth in the middle of the alinement, and the electromagnetic forces of the galactic center pulling on the Sun and the radical increase in plasma density in the galactic plane will make the transmission of electromagnetic and particle radiation from the Sun far more pronounced and efficient.
This plasma will also fuel the Sun making it more active than a normal 11 year solar sunspot peak, and will increase the conductivity of interplanetary space between the Earth and the Sun by a large factor, in effect lowering the resistance of electromagnetic and electrically charged particles to pass across distance.

This is something no modern astrophysicist trained in traditional academia will realize or confirm, because he was not taught the electrical nature of the Universe, but instead a fairy tale.

But any ham operator or person who has used a CB radio to talk "Skip" understands what I just said, when the ionosphere is charged with a high density of charged particles, the transmission of radio signals is greatly enhanced.

The presence of a high density if charged plasma in interplanetary space with have the exact same effect on electromagnetic radiation coming from the Sun (radio waves ARE electromagnetic radiation) as the presence of charged particles in the ionosphere have on radio transmissions. This is not a theory, this is a fact, backed up by empirical evidence, whether modern astrophysics recognizes it or not.
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>>quantum physics is a fraud and false theory.<<

are you certain of this and if so can you show how you are certain of it?

thanks
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Quantum physics has one experiment that is used ad nausea to back it up, and the observations are totally misinterpreted and can be explained by common sense instead of voodoo science.
This experiment is called the double slit experiment, and it;s pretense is that when a wave in the form of electromagnetic energy (Passively vibrating electrons essentially caught in a magnetic oscillation of rapidly changing polarity) is shot through the double slit apparatus without any detection device present that can sense it's presence, it behaves as a wave and leaves a wave interference pattern that can be observed as such. BUT,when the electromagnetic energy is 'detected' (they call it observed) by an electronic detection device, it behaves as a particle.
The ONLY reason it behaves as a particle is because the act of detecting the waveform absorbs it's vibrational energy in the process of detecting it,(some energy must be expended in the detection process or how else would it work?) therefor eliminating it.

Whether or not a person watches or not the experiments results turn out the same, it is a fraud and stupid misinterpretation, only believed by those who are conditioned to accept what they are told, usually those of unremarkable intelligence and devoid of independent thought. Why do you think they buried Tesla's work and promoted the idiot savant Einstein as God of science?
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Pin this thread!
There are dozens of threads on this subject being pinned authored by know nothings. I am probably one of only a very few people in the world who has any idea what is happening and why and is willing it publicize it, and what is going to happen and when.
While this might sound egotistical, based on what I've seen and the fact that not a single traditionally educated astrophysicist has any idea what is happening ,I believe this thread should be pinned so it will be seen by more people than it is.

The traditionally educated astrophysicist cannot possibly understand what is happening because he can't possibly understand it within his scope of understanding based on what he was taught, because quantum physics is a fraud and false theory.

THE UNIVERSE IS ELECTRIC. THE STRONGEST FORCE IN THE UNIVERSE IS ELECTROMAGNETISM, AND NOT GRAVITY AS WE WILL ALL SEE AS WE ENTER THE GALACTIC PLANE. GRAVITY IS A WEAK FORCE COMPARED TO ELECTROMAGNETISM AND IS ACTUALLY A WEAKER FORM OF IT.
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Hi OP, I need two more karma points and I can pin this thread for you. I agree the information here should be viewed by many. Your time and considerations on this matter has been greatly appreciated. The electric universe theory is interesting to say the least, and I truly enjoy reading your points of interest on the subject. I have no problem with your assertion that traditionally educated astrophysicists have trouble digesting anything they did not already regurgitate while being trained. I have seen this same problem with physicians in general, and to a lesser degree some attorneys, however, with attorneys it is more of laziness than a lack of vision or understanding as with the physicians. Lol. Anyway, hopefully we can get this pinned soon.
Perfer et Obdura;Dolor hic tibi proderit olim.Fortes Fortuna Iuvat! (Be Patient & Strong; someday this pain will be useful to you. Fortune favors the brave)
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Thank you once again for the service you are providing. I am wondering about the 3 days of darkness and the effect of a significant loss of the magnetosphere on the human memory. Are you aware of any effects having been explored. Could our memories be wiped? If so, howmight we hang onto them until such an event had passed?
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Hi AA,

This was a serious question regarding the effects of a low to absent magnetic field on human memory. Do you know anything about this that you can comment on?

Thanks
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Thread: Way to strange even for SOHO Lasco C3
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THIS THREAD NEEDS PINNING ASAP.

There are so many retarded threads pinned and this one is just left even though the OP provides proof and backs up his claims.
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We are in very rural NE Texas and there has been a SHIT TON of air traffic last several days. Yesterday they were "chemtrailing" us to death, but its been raining and heavy fog for past two days. We have been listening to all the planes but it wasn't until the sky briefly cleared yesterday that we saw the white stripes all over the sky.
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We are in very rural NE Texas and there has been a SHIT TON of air traffic last several days. Yesterday they were "chemtrailing" us to death, but its been raining and heavy fog for past two days. We have been listening to all the planes but it wasn't until the sky briefly cleared yesterday that we saw the white stripes all over the sky.
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Imo the very purpose of this stuff is to BLOCK/LIMIT solar radiation.
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Could this have something to do with ascension? There's all kinds of conspiracy theories going on for 2012, one of them is that the sun will start becoming a red giant end of this year.
1. Mass arrests of elites are ongoing, so don't worry be happy!
2. Banker resignations are in the hundreds and at that rate, victory by May!
3. NESARA, disclosure, ascension are all possible this year, be open minded!
4. Robogirls that look/act human and artificial wombs will burst the misandry bubble and free men!
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Thank you once again for the service you are providing. I am wondering about the 3 days of darkness and the effect of a significant loss of the magnetosphere on the human memory. Are you aware of any effects having been explored. Could our memories be wiped? If so, howmight we hang onto them until such an event had passed?
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Hi AA,

This was a serious question regarding the effects of a low to absent magnetic field on human memory. Do you know anything about this that you can comment on?

Thanks
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Since the brain operates i electrical impulses and memory is stored in neurons by charged particles, the impact could vary from mild forgetfulness to a complete wiping of the memory. But if it came to that , other much more critical functions of the brain would be impacted as well, and it probably wouldn't matter much.
It is a well established fact the solar activity effects the human mind.
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THIS THREAD NEEDS PINNING ASAP.

There are so many retarded threads pinned and this one is just left even though the OP provides proof and backs up his claims.
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For some reason this website doesn't want credible information on this subject that can be backed empirically that conflicts with quantum theory pinned. In fact it seems they want to be seen as a bastion of mentally defective thinking so they can discredit serious government abuses.

I am fairly certain there are alrge number of astrophysicists that know exactly what I do, but because of career considerations and fear of 'accident', prosecution or maybe an unexpected heart attack, they are keeping their mouths shut. if the people knew the truth they would rise up in anarchy and depose the ruling elite, right now.
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We are in very rural NE Texas and there has been a SHIT TON of air traffic last several days. Yesterday they were "chemtrailing" us to death, but its been raining and heavy fog for past two days. We have been listening to all the planes but it wasn't until the sky briefly cleared yesterday that we saw the white stripes all over the sky.
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Yes, the connection between operation cloverleaf and solar radiation is well established as well.
Around 1999-2000, commercial jet fuel was reformulated and the dinginess redesigned to digest the metal particles without damage, decreasing the average velocity of commercial airliners by about 100 knots and automatically applying the chemicals just by running the engines. That's why the pilots in general have no ide what is going on. The military also actually sprays[/b[ these materials into the atmosphere using tankers and cargo planes.

Read about Ed tellers patent for reducing solar radiation reaching the Earths surface, it was semi secretly implemented back in 1999.
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We are in very rural NE Texas and there has been a SHIT TON of air traffic last several days. Yesterday they were "chemtrailing" us to death, but its been raining and heavy fog for past two days. We have been listening to all the planes but it wasn't until the sky briefly cleared yesterday that we saw the white stripes all over the sky.
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Imo the very purpose of this stuff is to BLOCK/LIMIT solar radiation.
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You are correct in your assumption. Without it, most plant life would already be dead, and there would be mass extinction of a wide variety of animals.
Like I said, research 'operation cloverleaf', "ed tellers patent for reducing global warming" , and "Patric Minnis, NASA". Patric Minnis is or was the operational coordinator for NASA on the project. AT one time the data was readily available on the internet indicating when, where and why they would be applying certain areas.
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Could this have something to do with ascension? There's all kinds of conspiracy theories going on for 2012, one of them is that the sun will start becoming a red giant end of this year.
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No red giant, the sun has become a white dwarf while it was in the recent past a yellow dwarf. It is in fact a variable star and the red giant theory is speculation based on nonsense. Not going to happen.
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>>quantum physics is a fraud and false theory.<<

are you certain of this and if so can you show how you are certain of it?

thanks
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Quantum physics has one experiment that is used ad nausea to back it up, and the observations are totally misinterpreted and can be explained by common sense instead of voodoo science.
This experiment is called the double slit experiment, and it;s pretense is that when a wave in the form of electromagnetic energy (Passively vibrating electrons essentially caught in a magnetic oscillation of rapidly changing polarity) is shot through the double slit apparatus without any detection device present that can sense it's presence, it behaves as a wave and leaves a wave interference pattern that can be observed as such. BUT,when the electromagnetic energy is 'detected' (they call it observed) by an electronic detection device, it behaves as a particle.
The ONLY reason it behaves as a particle is because the act of detecting the waveform absorbs it's vibrational energy in the process of detecting it,(some energy must be expended in the detection process or how else would it work?) therefor eliminating it.

Whether or not a person watches or not the experiments results turn out the same, it is a fraud and stupid misinterpretation, only believed by those who are conditioned to accept what they are told, usually those of unremarkable intelligence and devoid of independent thought. Why do you think they buried Tesla's work and promoted the idiot savant Einstein as God of science?
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Your argument against quantum theory is invalid as you clearly haven't understood the experiment, or create an aunt sally version to falsly discredit it. There is *always* a detection device present, the screen which shows the interference pattern you acknowledge yourself. The experiment shows how the electron or photon particles appear as a waveform in displaying that pattern over a great number of them. It doesn't originate form quantum theory, but is from 100 years earlier where known as Young's experiment and was used to show light was a wave. Later science showned elsewhere that its a particle.

I don't know if your false understanding undermines the rest of your theory, but it definatly questions your science background and why you feel you have to stand against Quantum Theory. If you didn't make this claim you might be more credible.
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>>quantum physics is a fraud and false theory.<<

are you certain of this and if so can you show how you are certain of it?

thanks
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Quantum physics has one experiment that is used ad nausea to back it up, and the observations are totally misinterpreted and can be explained by common sense instead of voodoo science.
This experiment is called the double slit experiment, and it;s pretense is that when a wave in the form of electromagnetic energy (Passively vibrating electrons essentially caught in a magnetic oscillation of rapidly changing polarity) is shot through the double slit apparatus without any detection device present that can sense it's presence, it behaves as a wave and leaves a wave interference pattern that can be observed as such. BUT,when the electromagnetic energy is 'detected' (they call it observed) by an electronic detection device, it behaves as a particle.
The ONLY reason it behaves as a particle is because the act of detecting the waveform absorbs it's vibrational energy in the process of detecting it,(some energy must be expended in the detection process or how else would it work?) therefor eliminating it.

Whether or not a person watches or not the experiments results turn out the same, it is a fraud and stupid misinterpretation, only believed by those who are conditioned to accept what they are told, usually those of unremarkable intelligence and devoid of independent thought. Why do you think they buried Tesla's work and promoted the idiot savant Einstein as God of science?
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Your argument against quantum theory is invalid
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Horse manure. look up the search terms 'quantun theory, double slit experimenter"


as you clearly haven't understood the experiment, or create an aunt sally version to falsly discredit it. There is *always* a detection device present,
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But it is no always activated, other wise the experiment is invalid!
the screen which shows the interference pattern you acknowledge yourself. The experiment shows how the electron or photon particles appear as a waveform in displaying that pattern over a great number of them. It doesn't originate form quantum theory, but is from 100 years earlier where known as Young's experiment and was used to show light was a wave. Later science showned elsewhere that its a particle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105272

So which it it, a wave or a particle? Or is at I theorize a particle moving in a waveform? Remember Occam s razor!

I don't know if your false understanding undermines the rest of your theory, but it definatly questions your science background and why you feel you have to stand against Quantum Theory. If you didn't make this claim you might be more credible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1105272


It is a fact the no two people in the world 'understand' quantum theory to the extent they can reach a consensus, which invalidates it. Your insistence that I do not understand it is pointless, NO ONE DOES.
If you do, give us a short synapses describing it here.
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02/16/2012 02:17 PM
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The fact the the double slit experiment predates quantum theory does not in any way indicate or prove that it is not the primary experiment used repeatedly to back the theory of quantum mechanics and electromagnetic energy. This theory is clearly artificially complex and nonsense.

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