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As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released.
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Also there SHOULD be a reaction in KP index chart as well as the geomagnetic field, which is indicative of the fact that this data cannot be relied on and is in part being fabricated or censored.
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As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229


AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm.
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I didn't catch that, can you source it? That WOULD explain the low velocity protons.
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so AA we have now less then 3 months to go. Do u think things will ramp up quickly? As of today we do have weather extremes but nothing to sit up and notice.
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Hello Everyone~

I too was up last night however I knew I better not come near the computer. lol

Thank you everyone for keeping a vigil.



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Pls see this video. It talks about the CMe and the footprint.
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As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229


AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24569585


Well, you're wrong about the flares, because we did have two minor x ray flares, unless filament eruptions are now releasing x rays at a higher rate then ever measured before.
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As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229


AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24569585


Well, you're wrong about the flares, because we did have two minor x ray flares, unless filament eruptions are now releasing x rays at a higher rate then ever measured before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229


for once I am not wrong. WoWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!.

We did have flares but the filament erruption didnt have flares and we had a proton event because of the filamanet erruption
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so AA we have now less then 3 months to go. Do u think things will ramp up quickly? As of today we do have weather extremes but nothing to sit up and notice.
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Yes, I do. This time of the year onward is always extremely active with geo-effective solar storms during solar maximums due to the relative positions of the galactic center , the Sun and the Earth
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so AA we have now less then 3 months to go. Do u think things will ramp up quickly? As of today we do have weather extremes but nothing to sit up and notice.
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Yes, I do. This time of the year onward is always extremely active with geo-effective solar storms during solar maximums due to the relative positions of the galactic center , the Sun and the Earth
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but we have not reached solar max yet?
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As you can see from this series of charts, a very minor and insignificant solar flare coincided with rather large increase in proton flux in only the lower energy ranges. This is a result of re entering the proton 'cloud' which has been set in motion by the magnetic energy of the flare being released.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229


AA- We had a filament erruption without a flare and since Earths foot print was near the filament erruption spot we got the proton storm.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24569585


Well, you're wrong about the flares, because we did have two minor x ray flares, unless filament eruptions are now releasing x rays at a higher rate then ever measured before.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229


for once I am not wrong. WoWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!.

We did have flares but the filament erruption didnt have flares and we had a proton event because of the filamanet erruption
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It's possible, but more likely the proton event was the result of the CME associated with the first x ray flare on the chart. If I am right there will be another rise in proton flux shortly.
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so AA we have now less then 3 months to go. Do u think things will ramp up quickly? As of today we do have weather extremes but nothing to sit up and notice.
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Yes, I do. This time of the year onward is always extremely active with geo-effective solar storms during solar maximums due to the relative positions of the galactic center , the Sun and the Earth
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but we have not reached solar max yet?
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Not precisely, the bitch of it is that solar max coincides almost precisely with the alignment of 12/21/12
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the CME which is coming looks dense.
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the CME which is coming looks dense.
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Yes and it will of course cause another rise in proton flux since that's what CME's are , mainly.
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oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off.
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off.
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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I categorically and automatically discount any 'information' coming from NASA as garbage , unreliable and probably fabricated. Tell you buddies that pay you , that was really stupid how they faked that image of the crater on Mars, looks like something some kid faked on microsoft paint. Click on the video above and look at the one claiming NASA faked the images of Mars. It's so obvious it defies reason why they would try yo pull this kind of crap knowing it is going to be critically analyzed,
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NASA + .gov = 0
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oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off.
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: ehecatl


It did 'hit' at sundown , you frecking idiot:

[link to www.n3kl.org]

Why NASA faked the KP index and the geomagnetic field strength data is anyone's guess, but a proton arrival like this is always accompanied by preceding geomagnetic impulse.

Of course we are seeing things never before observed and the data is very unreliable to almost useless, so it is hard to tell by the independent researcher what is actually going on
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oh, the cme was supposed to hit at sundown. we canceled that. doom off.
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: ehecatl


It did 'hit' at sundown , you frecking idiot:

[link to www.n3kl.org]

Why NASA faked the KP index and the geomagnetic field strength data is anyone's guess, but a proton arrival like this is always accompanied by preceding geomagnetic impulse.

Of course we are seeing things never before observed and the data is very unreliable to almost useless, so it is hard to tell by the independent researcher what is actually going on
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1443229



Agreed, unprecedented happenings...and we've not seen suchlike since records began...however this doesn't mean that it hasn't happened before. AA I've read this thread & links, you've been dissed, had your very sanity questioned and yet still post. I can't quite understand your stooping to reciprocate the insults but clearly see your point. Therefore I whole-heartedly apologise. I should have not just *read* what you wrote but learnt for myself. Again, apologies.
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Robert, we'll be sending a van around to pick you up.

We may be needing you down in headquarters.
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ehecatl - Why are u coming again and again to this thread if you feel the info the op presented is wrong?
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you sound like a person who is very sure of them self
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Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf?
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Robert, we'll be sending a van around to pick you up.

We may be needing you down in headquarters.
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ehecatl - Why are u coming again and again to this thread if you feel the info the op presented is wrong?
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you sound like a person who is very sure of them self
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Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf?
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aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works.
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ehecatl - Why are u coming again and again to this thread if you feel the info the op presented is wrong?
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you sound like a person who is very sure of them self
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Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf?
 Quoting: Elemental


aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works.
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Here the India poster is suggesting that ehecatl felt that the OP presented wrong information. I don't believe I have stated that ever like that. I would never be so decided. It is not in my character and I am careful about these things.

His predictions of a time-table was not information, because AA did not substantiate it by anything except his claim to be a genius, so it is merely still and unsubstantiated prediction to me.

The only thing similar that I have ever stated is that OP makes some claims, and has never presented anything substantial in the way of information to back it up. That is different than claiming that information is wrong, I never claimed that. In fact I find myself agreeing with AA quite a lot, except he is rarely ever 'talking' about the theme, which is Sun Activity.

I hope you understand, y muchas gracias por su comprensión.

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you sound like a person who is very sure of them self
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Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf?
 Quoting: Elemental


aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works.
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Here the India poster is suggesting that ehecatl felt that the OP presented wrong information. I don't believe I have stated that ever like that. I would never be so decided. It is not in my character and I am careful about these things.

His predictions of a time-table was not information, because AA did not substantiate it by anything except his claim to be a genius, so it is merely still and unsubstantiated prediction to me.

The only thing similar that I have ever stated is that OP makes some claims, and has never presented anything substantial in the way of information to back it up. That is different than claiming that information is wrong, I never claimed that. In fact I find myself agreeing with AA quite a lot, except he is rarely ever 'talking' about the theme, which is Sun Activity.

I hope you understand, y muchas gracias por su comprensión.
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you really have nothing to say on this thread and yet you say it every day.
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Why do you say that? What, in that sentence, gives you any inkling of self confidence on the posters behalf?
 Quoting: Elemental


aha ha, I don't know. Funny that. That's how intuition works.
 Quoting: ehecatl


Here the India poster is suggesting that ehecatl felt that the OP presented wrong information. I don't believe I have stated that ever like that. I would never be so decided. It is not in my character and I am careful about these things.

His predictions of a time-table was not information, because AA did not substantiate it by anything except his claim to be a genius, so it is merely still and unsubstantiated prediction to me.

The only thing similar that I have ever stated is that OP makes some claims, and has never presented anything substantial in the way of information to back it up. That is different than claiming that information is wrong, I never claimed that. In fact I find myself agreeing with AA quite a lot, except he is rarely ever 'talking' about the theme, which is Sun Activity.

I hope you understand, y muchas gracias por su comprensión.
 Quoting: ehecatl


you really have nothing to say on this thread and yet you say it every day.
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You noticed that too, huh? He is what I call a soft sell shill. He pretends to be undecided but stabs you in the back while you're not around with personal attacks that don't seem so aggressive on the surface but have the intentions of totally undermining your credibility and your integrity.
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What I have had to say I've said several times. My personal observations.

This year has been decidedly cooler and wetter for me.

My geiger readings have not revealed any surprising anomalies.

The local environment seems especially healthy and vibrant.

When the sun comes out it feels very beautiful and nourishing to me.

In general there is a beautiful crisp vitality in the air, and conditions are about the most beautiful I have experienced in my life.

I read and believe that there have been droughts and heat-waves in other places. But I thought this thread was about solar doom.

Frankly I have not seen any indications of that.

That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault.

That's all.
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What I have had to say I've said several times. My personal observations.

This year has been decidedly cooler and wetter for me.

My geiger readings have not revealed any surprising anomalies.

The local environment seems especially healthy and vibrant.

When the sun comes out it feels very beautiful and nourishing to me.

In general there is a beautiful crisp vitality in the air, and conditions are about the most beautiful I have experienced in my life.

I read and believe that there have been droughts and heat-waves in other places. But I thought this thread was about solar doom.

Frankly I have not seen any indications of that.

That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault.

That's all.
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I agree on the points of weather and environment to some degree, though the purpose (that I believe) of this thread is to determine whether or not solar data is being withheld or falsified and if so why. There are many valid arguments that this is the case and understandably so if that information would cause baseless panic and anarchy. One day, inevitably,there will be solar doom although when is impossible to determine absolutely. Solar records are just beginning in the span of man's existence so each *major* happening is, of course, an unprecedented event. Unprecedented though only because we have so little knowledge of what has gone before. The earth has been through much in it's history, we have not been here to witness prior events leading to ice ages, mass extinction et al. We are witnessing weather changes ( the last few years seasons seem to have melded together, polar caps melting, jet stream sinking southward, earthquake swarms) and religion ( a means of moral and ethical control, after all if there are no consequences to our actions from a *higher* source morality would be defunct apart from our own personal feelings) has become a beating stick, a war between differing gods all of which offer hellfire and spiritual damnation if you're not on side. Who knows what the future holds? Not me, not you and not anyone with a fearful soul would dare predict without fear of mockery and derision. Those who do predict are called madmen and liars. I believe that the truth lies somewhere in the middle - data will always be withheld whilst there is any chance of misinterpretation and panic. Nibiru? Probably not. Solar doom, of course. The sun will, one day, emit radiation at a time when our magnetosphere is weak and unable to withstand the force. It will also, one day, run out of hydrogen and helium (I know little about this per se but am learning). This is fact. What is also fact is that we have to rely on those with more experience and knowledge on the subject to get anywhere near what is true. That is what I look for. Knowledge, insight and the veracity of spirit to dare to speak out. Rip this to shreds if it pleases you, I have no care on the matter, I simply seek truth and knowledge and don't believe that we are given that by any government agency (I use the word government in it's most loose term as we all know that it isn't government that truly mans the helm).
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That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault.

That's all.
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please explain the latter half of that sentence. It makes no sense. An ego cannot be anywhere.
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That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault.

That's all.
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please explain the latter half of that sentence. It makes no sense. An ego cannot be anywhere.
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I totally disagree with you on that one.

In this case what I see, is that the ego of AA is centered on the idea of his intelligence and greatness, and in terms of the work he has invested so far to support that ego (it has a certain weight and mass too!), in terms of this thread it is important that the predictions come true that he was so sure of. So his ego is also riding on the rail he created of his own predictions, which he set up so solidly himself in advance.

oh, by the way, there is a ray of hope.

It does not really require that much force relatively here I suspect to support the ego of AA. If he had just one really dedicated sycophant that gave him the unconditional stamp of belief and backed it up, then the required force to satisfy that ego might be satisfied.

For that the blame goes clearly to the India poster, who although he (or she) seems to have pledged unconditional belief in AA's words, has not reaaaalllly backed up the pledge of belief, in the form of greater participation and cheer-leading. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

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That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault.

That's all.
 Quoting: ehecatl


please explain the latter half of that sentence. It makes no sense. An ego cannot be anywhere.
 Quoting: Elemental


I totally disagree with you on that one.

In this case what I see, is that the ego of AA is centered on the idea of his intelligence and greatness, and in terms of the work he has invested so far to support that ego (it has a certain weight and mass too!), in terms of this thread it is important that the predictions come true that he was so sure of. So his ego is also riding on the rail he of his predictions, which he set up so solidly himself in advance.

oh, by the way, there is a ray of hope.

It does not really require that much force relatively here I suspect to support the ego of AA. If he had just really dedicated sycophant that gave him the unconditional stamp of belief and backed it up, then the required force to satisfy that ego might be satisfied.

For that the blame goes clearly to the India poster, who although he (or she) seems to have pledged unconditional belief in AA's words, has not reaaaalllly backed up the pledge of belief, in the form of greater participation and cheer-leading. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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ehecatl- AA has egos .I am not denying this. But this is because of agent 7444.tbar and people like you who started stalking him.
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That is not meant to stab anyone in the back, they must have their egos where they shouldn't be. Not my fault.

That's all.
 Quoting: ehecatl


please explain the latter half of that sentence. It makes no sense. An ego cannot be anywhere.
 Quoting: Elemental


I totally disagree with you on that one.

In this case what I see, is that the ego of AA is centered on the idea of his intelligence and greatness, and in terms of the work he has invested so far to support that ego (it has a certain weight and mass too!), in terms of this thread it is important that the predictions come true that he was so sure of. So his ego is also riding on the rail he of his predictions, which he set up so solidly himself in advance.
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I'm not going to get into a metaphysical debate as to whether an ego can have weight or mass; yes, AA has set himself up for a fall, that is obvious, however I look for the reasoning behind that sacrifice of ego (if one sets oneself up for failure by date, that is inevitable if the event does not come to pass). Why bother? There is no ego-inflation to be gained by constant defence, dismissal or degradation. He certainly has an intelligence and an understanding which appears to have been disrespected, therefore leading to insults towards those who chose to counter his ideas. It is sad that a forum designed for *alternative* ideas seems to have a policing system to take out (by unfair psychological means) the very basis of it's
existence.
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I'm not going to get into a metaphysical debate as to whether an ego can have weight or mass; yes, AA has set himself up for a fall, that is obvious, however I look for the reasoning behind that sacrifice of ego (if one sets oneself up for failure by date, that is inevitable if the event does not come to pass). Why bother? There is no ego-inflation to be gained by constant defence, dismissal or degradation. He certainly has an intelligence and an understanding which appears to have been disrespected, therefore leading to insults towards those who chose to counter his ideas. It is sad that a forum designed for *alternative* ideas seems to have a policing system to take out (by unfair psychological means) the very basis of it's
existence.
 Quoting: Elemental


I don't know how much policing takes place here for some and against others. I hope not much and share your sentiments in that regard. Everyone here gets banned sometimes.

But at least they do not seem to be banning you or the india poster that much at least. If there are other posters who are being blocked from this thread, it would be curious if one or several persons could a system could be set up to determine if GLP was setting a setting bias here against AA.

Who knows.

As for me, I only post in any place if I feel particularly inspired to do so, and otherwise not. I don't care if you love me or hate me, and it's up to the mods if they want to ban me for disrespecting AA's ego, which is riding directly upon the location of his predictions, repeated emphatically and with the utmost venom throughout this thread. That is his style.

(He would be a cool guy to be dictator of your country, I bet!)
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I don't know how much policing takes place here for some and against others. I hope not much and share your sentiments in that regard. Everyone here gets banned sometimes.

But at least they do not seem to be banning you or the india poster that much at least. If there are other posters who are being blocked from this thread, it would be curious if one or several persons could a system could be set up to determine if GLP was setting a setting bias here against AA.

Who knows.

As for me, I only post in any place if I feel particularly inspired to do so, and otherwise not. I don't care if you love me or hate me, and it's up to the mods if they want to ban me for disrespecting AA's ego, which is riding directly upon the location of his predictions, repeated emphatically and with the utmost venom throughout this thread. That is his style.

(He would be a cool guy to be dictator of your country, I bet!)
 Quoting: ehecatl


you really have nothing to say on this thread and yet you say it every day

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