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How do you explain it? I was Anonymous Astrophysicist
User ID: 1854567 before. How did myIP address and MAC address suddenly change?

God you fuckers are stupid. Where do they get you, out of a tent city down by the river?
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Tbh I couldnt care less, I know the truth ;)
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How do you explain it? I was Anonymous Astrophysicist
User ID: 1854567 before. How did myIP address and MAC address suddenly change?

God you fuckers are stupid. Where do they get you, out of a tent city down by the river?
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Right....im from a tent down from a city....By a river....

ERM negative on all accounts lol.
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How do you explain it? I was Anonymous Astrophysicist
User ID: 1854567 before. How did myIP address and MAC address suddenly change?

God you fuckers are stupid. Where do they get you, out of a tent city down by the river?
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Right....im from a tent down from a city....By a river....

ERM negative on all accounts lol.
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BTW MAC adress is a standing adress, which you cant change ;) thanks to your patriot act ;)
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How do you explain it? I was Anonymous Astrophysicist
User ID: 1854567 before. How did myIP address and MAC address suddenly change?

God you fuckers are stupid. Where do they get you, out of a tent city down by the river?
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Right....im from a tent down from a city....By a river....

ERM negative on all accounts lol.
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BTW MAC adress is a standing adress, which you cant change ;) thanks to your patriot act ;)
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Wanna bet?
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Tbh I couldnt care less, I know the truth ;)
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The problem is you are too fucking stupid to know the truth. You are told what to believe and what to think and you do as you are instructed, obviously.
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I was? You're a liar. I saw the accusation , but I missed the trial, evidence and conviction. The individual I AM THAT I AM had a totally different writing style than me and yet the claim was made it was similar, HOW?

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Let's just start with this question -- I'll tackle on the rest down the road, some, when I have time to kill.

I AM THAT I AM didn't post exclusively to this thread. He posted to another, and wrote:

I have seen their vehicles all over the place since 911, it's nothing new. II think ALL of you need to realize that all levels of law enforcement and all of Americans district courts are now under the direct direction of the federal government. All local police and judiciary systems have been acting according to direct orders of the federal government in arresting certain people who they see as threat since the Patriot act' was signed into law, mainly anyone who speaks out against them.
I have been outspoken specifically against Zionist control of the US government and critical institutions in the United states and was arrested as direct result of statements I made on this website.

Since I violated no law, I was set up by an incompetent boob of a federal agent who infiltrated my towns local police department named D. Glover ( I cannot reveal his whole Identity as it is a violation of federal law to name a federal law enforcement officer operating under cover) who screwed up the set up so badly that people who read the discovery of evidence were literally laughing out loud at how stupid he was. He had given the 'alleged victim' the description of another individual who he was also targeting. He had also given the alleged victim a set of circumstances to describe as facts in the 'case' that were impossible to be true.

I WAS ARRESTED ANYWAY, AND HELD ON 250,000 thousand dollars bail!
Since the charges against me were violations of state law, they either have to give me a trial in a state district court or they know hundreds of friends , acquaintances and relatives are going to raise hell. There strategy so far has been to try to get the original statements of the alleged victim suppressed which the judge who is up for election refused to do (LMAO!), get the 3 people involved who made statements all telling the same story (the agent accidentally gave the 'victim' another targets information and story to tell) by informing them of the discrepancies in their stories through leading questioning, for instance "you said ***** hair was white, it is really almost black".

What I am telling you is tier strategy for removing their actively outspoken opponents is to use the system already in place to take them out of circulation and out of communication with the outside world.

One of their greatest errors in strategy is realizing that the very few of us with the courage to be outspoken are a tiny fraction of the opposition they face, and we as their open opponents are of little additional threat to their agenda. By making 'examples' out of us, they are only angering more people and making more people aware that "he must be right or they wouldn't have tried something like this".

I know at least a dozen very quiet people that made additional guns and ammunition purchases as a result of my case. I was at a family get together where the illegal and anti american activity of the federal government was mentioned at the saying of the grace , a request being made to the lord to restore our legitimate government.

The one thing we can count on from anything connected with the Federal government is incompetent stupidity. Thanks to D. Glover , we now have hundreds more people in my county and surrounding areas aware of the problem and the reality of the situation. ( his status as a federal agent operating under cover is now common knowledge
He got our town government surplus vehicles claiming to go through regular channels to obtain them to make himself a hero to the towns people, what he didn't tell them is that the 'free" Humvees and other military surplus equipment require constant and expensive maintenance , that we don't need them and never did, and guess where the money came from? THEY RAISED OUR TAXES AND ARE SENDING OUT THREATENING LETTERS TO LITTLE OLD LADIES BEHIND IN THEIR TAXES THREATENING TO SUE THEM.
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Thread: Domestic Troop Movement on The Highways, DHS / TSA Checkpoints, Prelude to Martial Law, If you see something, Say Something HERE!!! (Page 7)



Now, here is a post by you, where you were arrested by *exactly* the same officer! What are the odds?


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I agree. They are doing everything they can to keep the herd from noticing, too.

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I have said the same thing almost word for word. They are turning into inside dwellers. One exception is the skateboarder, which at one time I was an innovator of the port, These kids know about it! I Talk to these kids often, and have had many of them tell me a particular cop who we've identify as a DHS infiltrator has told them not to talk to me, that I am a dangerous nut. The cops name is Doug Glover, and I am his assignment and i want him to know that I know about it and so does everyone else.

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Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 193)


And, strangely, if you extend the search back for a year, you find no less than **41** posts by you, AA, using that ID -- and no one else.

Which is more likely? That you have a sockpuppet that just got exposed? Or that a mythical person posted supporting you from exactly the same IP as before, arrested by exactly the same officer, and then vanished?
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74444 caught you cold,, youre a proven liar and full of crap as a christmas goose.. e beat you so senseless you don't know what's what and we'll all know for sure in December how wrong you are
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What, do you think, is the reason behind the sock puppetry? Maybe, with your bullyboy tactics, you have *scared* (in it's most ambiguous sense) any potential AA supporter into a self conscious submission, thereby leaving the original poster alone in his suppositions. I don't know whether his predictions are true or false as they are as stated, predictions. In all honesty I don't think that we are in the grips of a doom-laden scenario in which mankind, as we know it, will be obliterated. I do, however, agree that data is falsified. Our opinions as to why this occurs are fundamentally different. A little knowledge is more dangerous than ignorance and whilst so much information is so freely available and able to be misinterpreted, the potential for doom-mongering will continue. To sum up personal feelings, one day doom will occur, I still can't quite fathom why anyone would want this beautiful world to be obliterated but hey, each to his own. hf
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Thank you for sharing your experiences with your grandfather AA.

They are very similar to mine, except my grandpa Jack spoke even less about his the work, although he brought some home to his his garage workshop. I remember seeing optical lenses as much as electronics on his bench once FWIW. (He was the inventor and patent holder on the automatic drug store photo booth before working with Hughes.) He was a very kind but aloof person with everyone in the family, at home a lot and generally helpful and nice, but obvious some big part of his life unspoken to not just me, but aloof and mysterious for everyone. Although he was very British in every sense of the word except nationality, and maybe that was part of the reason.

The one Jack confided to for sure was one of his sons, who also became a Hughes Engineer, which became Raytheon, and his work involved the early systems of photo radar ticketing systems and automated public surveillance systems. That son passed away from a heart attack I believe, a few years after his dad. That son always seemed to me as if "cloven" directly of the father.

I could go on and on, but I think that I have already written about these things in this thread even.

I am sure I will study the Apollo issue more in the future, but already in the last year the more I learn the more suspicious it all seems.


I share your sentiments about TV too. As a child I had the usual 1960's TV addiction, but I remember I pretty much stopped watching TV intentionally like around '78 or so, but I have always looked for "alternative" news or entertainment sources since then.

A few years ago I was living on a floor above a family of TV addicts. TV's from every angle in every room so as to never miss a second. The wanted to put a TV up in my space and I politely replied that if they did I would simply hurl it down three stories into the street. They always thought I was kind of eccentric that way I think.

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I was? You're a liar. I saw the accusation , but I missed the trial, evidence and conviction. The individual I AM THAT I AM had a totally different writing style than me and yet the claim was made it was similar, HOW?

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Let's just start with this question -- I'll tackle on the rest down the road, some, when I have time to kill.

I AM THAT I AM didn't post exclusively to this thread. He posted to another, and wrote:

I have seen their vehicles all over the place since 911, it's nothing new. II think ALL of you need to realize that all levels of law enforcement and all of Americans district courts are now under the direct direction of the federal government. All local police and judiciary systems have been acting according to direct orders of the federal government in arresting certain people who they see as threat since the Patriot act' was signed into law, mainly anyone who speaks out against them.
I have been outspoken specifically against Zionist control of the US government and critical institutions in the United states and was arrested as direct result of statements I made on this website.

Since I violated no law, I was set up by an incompetent boob of a federal agent who infiltrated my towns local police department named D. Glover ( I cannot reveal his whole Identity as it is a violation of federal law to name a federal law enforcement officer operating under cover) who screwed up the set up so badly that people who read the discovery of evidence were literally laughing out loud at how stupid he was. He had given the 'alleged victim' the description of another individual who he was also targeting. He had also given the alleged victim a set of circumstances to describe as facts in the 'case' that were impossible to be true.

I WAS ARRESTED ANYWAY, AND HELD ON 250,000 thousand dollars bail!
Since the charges against me were violations of state law, they either have to give me a trial in a state district court or they know hundreds of friends , acquaintances and relatives are going to raise hell. There strategy so far has been to try to get the original statements of the alleged victim suppressed which the judge who is up for election refused to do (LMAO!), get the 3 people involved who made statements all telling the same story (the agent accidentally gave the 'victim' another targets information and story to tell) by informing them of the discrepancies in their stories through leading questioning, for instance "you said ***** hair was white, it is really almost black".

What I am telling you is tier strategy for removing their actively outspoken opponents is to use the system already in place to take them out of circulation and out of communication with the outside world.

One of their greatest errors in strategy is realizing that the very few of us with the courage to be outspoken are a tiny fraction of the opposition they face, and we as their open opponents are of little additional threat to their agenda. By making 'examples' out of us, they are only angering more people and making more people aware that "he must be right or they wouldn't have tried something like this".

I know at least a dozen very quiet people that made additional guns and ammunition purchases as a result of my case. I was at a family get together where the illegal and anti american activity of the federal government was mentioned at the saying of the grace , a request being made to the lord to restore our legitimate government.

The one thing we can count on from anything connected with the Federal government is incompetent stupidity. Thanks to D. Glover , we now have hundreds more people in my county and surrounding areas aware of the problem and the reality of the situation. ( his status as a federal agent operating under cover is now common knowledge
He got our town government surplus vehicles claiming to go through regular channels to obtain them to make himself a hero to the towns people, what he didn't tell them is that the 'free" Humvees and other military surplus equipment require constant and expensive maintenance , that we don't need them and never did, and guess where the money came from? THEY RAISED OUR TAXES AND ARE SENDING OUT THREATENING LETTERS TO LITTLE OLD LADIES BEHIND IN THEIR TAXES THREATENING TO SUE THEM.
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Thread: Domestic Troop Movement on The Highways, DHS / TSA Checkpoints, Prelude to Martial Law, If you see something, Say Something HERE!!! (Page 7)



Now, here is a post by you, where you were arrested by *exactly* the same officer! What are the odds?

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And, strangely, if you extend the search back for a year, you find no less than **41** posts by you, AA, using that ID -- and no one else.

Which is more likely? That you have a sockpuppet that just got exposed? Or that a mythical person posted supporting you from exactly the same IP as before, arrested by exactly the same officer, and then vanished?
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74444 caught you cold,, youre a proven liar and full of crap as a christmas goose.. e beat you so senseless you don't know what's what and we'll all know for sure in December how wrong you are
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Glover never arrested me, and everyone in my county knows who and what he is. You didn't read my response agent 74444, and why are you coming back under a new ip?
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The people who compile the data in the advanced search function obviously work closely with the .govs here, I did the same search the above detractor suggested and see no record of "I AM THAT I AM" posting under that user ID, though we clearly see that he did.

Strange.

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After a minutes thought it is obvious to me that what happened is that agent 74444 working with the site's administrators had I AM THAT I AM's user ID changed to one that had been assigned to me a few dozen times (In the thousands of posts I have made) in the past year. I can tell you through experience and by experimenting that if you do the same with any user id you will come up with multiple users being assigned the same user ID number, so maybe what you actually did agent 74444 is catch yourself.
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Type in the user ID assigned to me yesterday (1854567), set the date range for a two years.

Tell me, do you think THOSE people were sock puppets of me too?

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What I have just proved is agent 74444 is working in concert with the site administrators to achieve a common goal, and their methods include altering data of the site. I already knew they deleted and edited posts
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Now, back to the subject at hand. This is a very interesting dataset originating from NOAA and the GOES satellites:

[link to www.n3kl.org]


One thing that strikes me as odd is the geomagnetic impulse that just occurred appears to have came after the arrival of the proton event, and there is no preceding geomagnetic impulse to that proton event, It will be interesting to see if the proton flux density ramps up shortly after the geomagnetic impulse, as is the norm.


Also note that the baseline x ray flux is ramping up rapidly. It is now in the "C" class range which is indicative of increased solar activity.
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The data on this page does not correlate with any known previous pattern, indicating some of it is being fabricated:

[link to www.n3kl.org]
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Cosmic "rays" are also increasing, most likley in response to a weakening and shrinking heliosphere. Remember this was an integral part of my overall predictions.

Please note the article posted earlier on this thread pointing out that cosmic 'rays' (>light speed particles) DO NOT originate from the Sun, which was the subject of some heated debate earlier on this thread:

[link to helios.izmiran.rssi.ru]
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[link to soho.esac.esa.int]

It is unlikely these two small sunspots are responsible for the current increase in x ray flux, indicating it's source may be from a coronal hole clearly shown on this image, which is very dark and deep in nature:

[link to soho.esac.esa.int]

The emission of x rays from coronal holes is a theory I postulated earlier in the year in March. We already know they are normally the source of increased particle radiation in the solar wind, especially protons. We are seeing radical changes in the Sun right before our very eyes, for those who have them open.

I also noticed this thread is unusually devoid of the disinfo ops for a Sunday, the ones in Australia should be present, like 74444, since the Jewish sabbath is over there.

What, they are giving them all Sunday off now?

cruise

Must be the budget reductions. They have to pay for all of them hollow points somehow.
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AA what do you think about GOES13 having problems? TIA
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AA what do you think about GOES13 having problems? TIA
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I wouldn't be surprised to hear it has been damaged by radiation, especially the elevated cosmic radiation referenced earlier that I believe is most likely well outside of it it's designed shielding capacity. I also know the high proton flux that I believe to be continuously present in interplanetary space may be damaging it's power supply and logic circuits, as well as it's sensors.
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This could be totally unrelated but if you read the thread you know I speculated that changes in the schedules of world leaders or movements of the elite could be indications of impending space weather problems, and to keep a close eye on them:

Thread: MYSTERY: World Leaders Cancel Trips and Meetings

As I have previously informed you , the months of October through February are always highly active periods during solar maximums,s but with the irregularities we are now observing all bets are off as to what will happen. I know through my daily monitoring of the world weather conditions that the continuation of the pattern of the seasons melding into one is continuing, though it has been cooling off somewhat lately with the absence of any notable solar activity or high proton flux, both of which cause heating of the atmosphere and the Earths surface. The northern arctic areas continue to be much warmer than normal, whereas the opposite is true for the southern Antarctic regions, the result of high energy particles following the polarized magnetic field of the Earth.

THAT PATTERN OF A COOLING OFF PERIOD WAS EXPECTED, AND IS NOW REACHING IT'S END AS SOLAR CONDITIONS ARE ONCE AGAIN HEATING UP ALONG WITH AN INCREASE IN COSMIC RADIATION REACHING THE EARTH FROM ALL DIRECTIONS. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO STILL INSIST COSMIC RADIATION EMANATES FROM THE SUN, PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE REFERENCED EARLIER THAT PROVES THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COSMIC RADIATION LEVELS DURING THE DAYTIME AND NIGHT TIME.

I am now going to go out on a limb and predict well above average temperatures for the remainder of the period between now and late December and beyond. Some of you are going to be shocked when you relaize no discernible fall is detectable as temperatures actually increase from their present levels.
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So, let me get this straight.

In response to a poster claiming IDW/AA never claimed that December 2012 would being about TEOTWAWKI, I post a long piece, detailing precisely where IDW has said that the December 21st deadline has a 98.5% chance (gonna EVER show the math on that one, IDW?) of bringing about all sorts of chaos: the end of the internet, 90-95% reduction in the global human population, my own death, excuses for nuclear exchanges, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria, the works.

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A poster calling himself I AM THAT I AM posts, bragging about how great IDW's intelligence is and how rotten I am -- positions and phrases and ad hominems very similar to ones IDW has taken himself multiple times. This also *happens* to be a guy IDW knows, but he gets any old random ID from GLPs software.

The forum administrators, with their gawd-like abilities, immediately somehow detect that this is a guy IDW knows personally, and magically switch his ID number to one that IDW/AA has used in the past.

IDW/AA comes back denying the poster is he, citing the wonderfully objective evidence that their writing styles are different. Personally, I don't see how, but that's all right. What both seem to gloss over, though, that this is someone each *knows personally.* An interesting omission.

I come along, and doing a search based on what Waterbug and Ehecatl noted, find other posts by I AM. He posts the same opinions as IDW/AA, and in fact no opinons that seem to differ from any of his. He posts about the officer they both have trouble with, and both have posted about by name. These posts now share an ID number with posts IDW has made in the past year -- a number that IDW/AA now claims has been spoofed by the forum administrators.

So a question directly to IDW/AA: how did the forum administrators KNOW this was a supposed neighbor of yours? Psychically? Was it blind luck? Because there was no way for them to KNOW this until AFTER I and others had called you out on the posts with the same IDs! Why did they pick that particular ID to spoof, rather than one of the others? How did they have TIME to do all this (seconds!), and what did they hope to accomplish? What other magical powers do you think Forum Administrators have?

So, now that you've arrived back on the scene, I AM suddenly vanishes entirely, in the light of this evidence that you both have posted from the same IP -- an IP that hasn't been tagged by the forum software for over a year, but somehow the administrators have performed this truly marvelous spoofing feat. Let me make a prediction that I AM might NOW reappear, with a different IP/ID, claiming that IDW/AA is completely correct.

See, it's your reaction later that seems to belie this particular line of reasoning, IDW. Because it isn't until AFTER the fact that the IDs match is totally exposed, and the fact that you both have real life contacts and events in common, that you *suddenly* admit this just *happens* to be a neighbor of yours, someone you know *personally.* You didn't say anything about it when you first reappeared, and neither did I AM -- again, a fascinating omission. And we haven't even touched the officer you two just HAPPEN to have in common, or all the ridiculous layman's excuses you were giving earlier about talking to the same cellular towers and thus getting IPs in common -- identical mistakes you both made. Because what you both fail to understand is that IPs, particularly on large cellular networks, have virtually *nothing* to do with geography at all.

Ehecatl does a very good job summarizing here:

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It would have been a much more plausible story if IDW and I AM *didn't* know each other at all -- but, alas, there was that Officer you both despise in common, that you both HAPPENED to post about.

So, either MANY shocking coincidences!

Or...

It seems to me that a much more simple, and more likely scenario is this: IDW/AA got caught sockpuppeting his own thread (the horror!), with an IP that GLPs system had seen before, and thus it used the same ID as before. No coincidences are even necessary for that idea to be correct, thus parsimony suggests that it is correct. IDW's inability to let go of the issue reenforces that, too.
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We have been through all of this before agent 74444, and yes you do have direct connections with the operations of this website and can get posts edited, threads removed, ID numbers changed and any other type of chicanery that would assist you in your deception.

No one reads your posts here past the first few sentences and one seems to appreciate your presence or your input, wich begs the question what is the logical reason behind your being here?

I am going to say it one more time, I am not I AM THAT I AM, I have no reason to submit posts backing my own assertions, my ego is satisfied by being right, and I am not concerned who appears to support me on a thread that is obviously under the careful control of a gatekeeper, as evidenced by many reports from posters who were immediately banned after posting material that backs up my prediction, or in support of me here.

That being said, I do not deny that I am in daily contact with the poster I AM THAT I AM and that I discuss these subjects with him frequently. This is an individual who is very intelligent and knows what I do about GLP. He posts here infrequently under continuously changing monikers.

At one time I had a half a dozen posters posting simultaneously in my defense under the moniker IDW incorporated, as I am sure you recall. I have already shown graphically through empirical evidence that your assertion that I AM THAT I AM is in fact as 'sock puppet' of myself is based on either on an unintelligent understanding of how the user ID numbers are assigned here (which I do not believe is the case, I think you know exactly how they are), or that you intentionally set it up to make it appear that way. Anyone can do an advanced search of any user ID over a period of two years and see the numbers are assigned randomly to many different users, both members and ac's.

But the real question to any thinking person is why are you here, and why do you insist on my making bets I cannot win and having them involve apologizing publicly to liars I hate that are all known propagandists working for NASA? I would never do that right or wrong, and freely admit there is remote possibility I am wrong, but to make a bet there is no way to win is simply stupid, and it is stupid on your part to suggest it. I think personally you are a washed up drunk that should be retired.

With all of this being said, I made a fool out of every one of the individuals you insist I apologize to by exposing their ignorance and utter stupidity, a few of them threatened me, and they were attempting to debate subjects well above their intellectual levels of understanding and that they knew little about.

As an example that really stands out in my mind as a perfect illustration of utter stupidity, one of your ilk calling himself Nomuse insisted that the motherboard of a computer must be Earth grounded. I could not believe how stupid this person was, educated or not, and being paid to represent NASA.

I will let the record stand as it is because I know it eats at each and every one of you that I proved NASA faked not only the manned moon landings, but just about every other scientific accomplishment they received billions in taxpayer funding for and funneled to the military industrial contractors, which is what is really at the bottom of all of this, the massive fraud involving NASA and JLP.

The latest mission to Mars is yet another massive fraud,one that has already been exposed by amateurs as such and involves 'work' that looks like a 4th grader working with microsoft paint fabricated the surface images.... the billions are being funneled into other projects that are being concealed from the American people and the whole thing is a fake.

MY suggestion to you is to retire and disappear, hoping no one will connect you personally with your work.

If you can't do that and you insist on posting here, by posting off topic personal attacks on me you are only serving to alienate not only yourself, but raise suspicion as to your motivations amongst anyone reading this. Your posts are never on topic and you have never shown any knowledge of science whatsoever, you're nothing more than a hit man that has stalked me for over 10 years.
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We have been through all of this before agent 74444, and yes you do have direct connections with the operations of this website and can get posts edited, threads removed, ID numbers changed and any other type of chicanery that would assist you in your deception.
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And your evidence for this is...?

Oh, yes. There is none. Because I am not affiliated with the website, other than I post to it. Nothing more.

No one reads your posts here past the first few sentences
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Then why are you always so concerned about what I post, or continually refer to posts of mine?

and one seems to appreciate your presence or your input, wich begs the question what is the logical reason behind your being here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Part of it is an experiment. I am testing your claims, and your ability to do what you claim you can do. I am pointing out flaws in your stories, flaws in your ideas, flaws in your character. I am letting those who engage with you know exactly who and what they are dealing with. And doing so with your own words and posts.

I am going to say it one more time, I am not I AM THAT I AM, I have no reason to submit posts backing my own assertions, my ego is satisfied by being right, and I am not concerned who appears to support me on a thread
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Yet, you keep asserting that *I* should be concerned about JUST THAT. You've stated that, since nobody here could possibly support my ideas and assertions (in which I actually PROVIDE evidence and links) that I should leave. Why should *I* be concerned about support on a thread, when you aren't?


that is obviously under the careful control of a gatekeeper, as evidenced by many reports from posters who were immediately banned after posting material that backs up my prediction, or in support of me here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


I have no connection with, control of, or knowledge of such a gatekeeper other than the admins enforcing board rules. From the past, I know that the admins of the board were able to shut your IP down, and that you have been banned several times in the past for infractions, and even kept off the board for a good long time. I disagreed with that, and said so several times. My posts were deleted right along with yours, way back when.

That being said, I do not deny that I am in daily contact with the poster I AM THAT I AM and that I discuss these subjects with him frequently.
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You are wise not to deny it. What you were UNWISE in doing was not admitting it in the first place, which makes me suspect the entire story as poppycock. That said, it doesn't matter very much.

This is an individual who is very intelligent and knows what I do about GLP. He posts here infrequently under continuously changing monikers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Translation: he agrees with you, therefore he is intelligent. Got it.


At one time I had a half a dozen posters posting simultaneously in my defense under the moniker IDW incorporated, as I am sure you recall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


At the time, I didn't know there were a half dozen posters, nor did I care. I post and reply about the ideas, and sometime how they are presented. It wouldn't matter if you had a dozen people using your identity.

Though, on the other hand, given your superior intelligence, why'd you need so much help to tackle me, a fairly average guy?

I have already shown graphically through empirical evidence that your assertion that I AM THAT I AM is in fact as 'sock puppet' of myself is based on either on an unintelligent understanding of how the user ID numbers are assigned here
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


I've explained how that works, to the best of my knowledge. I also carefully explained why you appear to be wrong.

(which I do not believe is the case, I think you know exactly how they are), or that you intentionally set it up to make it appear that way. Anyone can do an advanced search of any user ID over a period of two years and see the numbers are assigned randomly to many different users, both members and ac's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Look more closely. They aren't all *that* random. Call someone who knows networking as to why.

Surely, if our positions were reversed, were I giving you the same story you are giving me about two supposed different posters both having the 74444 identity, you would think it stank pretty freekin' thoroughly. You cannot deny this, particularly given how frequently you make up stuff about me.


But the real question to any thinking person is why are you here, and why do you insist on my making bets I cannot win
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


It wasn't a bet you couldn't win: were you right about the future and the fate of the world, you'd literally be rid of me UNTIL THE INTERNET FAILED. You have made it perfectly clear that you wish my speedy departure, you supposedly have filed complaints with government agencies because a person is posting counter to you on the internet (again, the horror!), you have wished for and attempted to silence me in a number of amusing and ineffective ways. Well, here is your chance to be rid of me, forever.

You just have to be *right.*

If you are right, you'd never hear from me again, because the Internet would fail, utterly, before I ever had a chance to come back. You have said you are *over 98% sure* you are right, that this gigantic failure WILL occur.

But, if I am going to risk big like that, you're going to need to risk something big in return. And there seems to be NOTHING more valuable to you than your own inflated ego and sense of self importance. So, that's why I was picking that as something to wager. And with less than a supposed 2% chance of you being wrong, you balk. UTTERLY.

Shows exactly how much you believe your OWN numbers.

and having them involve apologizing publicly to liars I hate that are all known propagandists working for NASA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Because the wager has to risk something VALUABLE to you.


I would never do that right or wrong, and freely admit there is remote possibility I am wrong, but to make a bet there is no way to win is simply stupid, and it is stupid on your part to suggest it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


No, it isn't. It proves how sure you REALLY are that you are right. Which, in short, appears to be not very much at all.

I think personally you are a washed up drunk that should be retired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Ad hominem noted.

MY suggestion to you is to retire and disappear, hoping no one will connect you personally with your work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Then have the courage to take my wager, and to stand by it when you lose.

If you can't do that and you insist on posting here, by posting off topic personal attacks on me you are only serving to alienate not only yourself, but raise suspicion as to your motivations amongst anyone reading this. Your posts are never on topic and you have never shown any knowledge of science whatsoever, you're nothing more than a hit man that has stalked me for over 10 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


You, as usual, must have me confused with others who have opposed you in the past. All I know is when it comes to sure fire ways of testing your claims, YOU'RE the one that balks. YOU'RE the one that fails. I have tested you again and again, and you have either fled, or been found wanting.

Your inability to wager with me here, with something you say you are SO certain of, demonstrates that you know this. And precisely what your odds are worth.

And I'm 98% sure I'll still be here in January to remind you of it.
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We have been through all of this before agent 74444, and yes you do have direct connections with the operations of this website and can get posts edited, threads removed, ID numbers changed and any other type of chicanery that would assist you in your deception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


And your evidence for this is...?

Oh, yes. There is none. Because I am not affiliated with the website, other than I post to it. Nothing more.

No one reads your posts here past the first few sentences
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Then why are you always so concerned about what I post, or continually refer to posts of mine?

and one seems to appreciate your presence or your input, wich begs the question what is the logical reason behind your being here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Part of it is an experiment. I am testing your claims, and your ability to do what you claim you can do. I am pointing out flaws in your stories, flaws in your ideas, flaws in your character. I am letting those who engage with you know exactly who and what they are dealing with. And doing so with your own words and posts.

I am going to say it one more time, I am not I AM THAT I AM, I have no reason to submit posts backing my own assertions, my ego is satisfied by being right, and I am not concerned who appears to support me on a thread
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Yet, you keep asserting that *I* should be concerned about JUST THAT. You've stated that, since nobody here could possibly support my ideas and assertions (in which I actually PROVIDE evidence and links) that I should leave. Why should *I* be concerned about support on a thread, when you aren't?


that is obviously under the careful control of a gatekeeper, as evidenced by many reports from posters who were immediately banned after posting material that backs up my prediction, or in support of me here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


I have no connection with, control of, or knowledge of such a gatekeeper other than the admins enforcing board rules. From the past, I know that the admins of the board were able to shut your IP down, and that you have been banned several times in the past for infractions, and even kept off the board for a good long time. I disagreed with that, and said so several times. My posts were deleted right along with yours, way back when.

That being said, I do not deny that I am in daily contact with the poster I AM THAT I AM and that I discuss these subjects with him frequently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


You are wise not to deny it. What you were UNWISE in doing was not admitting it in the first place, which makes me suspect the entire story as poppycock. That said, it doesn't matter very much.

This is an individual who is very intelligent and knows what I do about GLP. He posts here infrequently under continuously changing monikers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Translation: he agrees with you, therefore he is intelligent. Got it.


At one time I had a half a dozen posters posting simultaneously in my defense under the moniker IDW incorporated, as I am sure you recall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


At the time, I didn't know there were a half dozen posters, nor did I care. I post and reply about the ideas, and sometime how they are presented. It wouldn't matter if you had a dozen people using your identity.

Though, on the other hand, given your superior intelligence, why'd you need so much help to tackle me, a fairly average guy?

I have already shown graphically through empirical evidence that your assertion that I AM THAT I AM is in fact as 'sock puppet' of myself is based on either on an unintelligent understanding of how the user ID numbers are assigned here
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


I've explained how that works, to the best of my knowledge. I also carefully explained why you appear to be wrong.

(which I do not believe is the case, I think you know exactly how they are), or that you intentionally set it up to make it appear that way. Anyone can do an advanced search of any user ID over a period of two years and see the numbers are assigned randomly to many different users, both members and ac's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Look more closely. They aren't all *that* random. Call someone who knows networking as to why.

Surely, if our positions were reversed, were I giving you the same story you are giving me about two supposed different posters both having the 74444 identity, you would think it stank pretty freekin' thoroughly. You cannot deny this, particularly given how frequently you make up stuff about me.


But the real question to any thinking person is why are you here, and why do you insist on my making bets I cannot win
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


It wasn't a bet you couldn't win: were you right about the future and the fate of the world, you'd literally be rid of me UNTIL THE INTERNET FAILED. You have made it perfectly clear that you wish my speedy departure, you supposedly have filed complaints with government agencies because a person is posting counter to you on the internet (again, the horror!), you have wished for and attempted to silence me in a number of amusing and ineffective ways. Well, here is your chance to be rid of me, forever.

You just have to be *right.*

If you are right, you'd never hear from me again, because the Internet would fail, utterly, before I ever had a chance to come back. You have said you are *over 98% sure* you are right, that this gigantic failure WILL occur.

But, if I am going to risk big like that, you're going to need to risk something big in return. And there seems to be NOTHING more valuable to you than your own inflated ego and sense of self importance. So, that's why I was picking that as something to wager. And with less than a supposed 2% chance of you being wrong, you balk. UTTERLY.

Shows exactly how much you believe your OWN numbers.

and having them involve apologizing publicly to liars I hate that are all known propagandists working for NASA?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Because the wager has to risk something VALUABLE to you.


I would never do that right or wrong, and freely admit there is remote possibility I am wrong, but to make a bet there is no way to win is simply stupid, and it is stupid on your part to suggest it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


No, it isn't. It proves how sure you REALLY are that you are right. Which, in short, appears to be not very much at all.

I think personally you are a washed up drunk that should be retired.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Ad hominem noted.

MY suggestion to you is to retire and disappear, hoping no one will connect you personally with your work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


Then have the courage to take my wager, and to stand by it when you lose.

If you can't do that and you insist on posting here, by posting off topic personal attacks on me you are only serving to alienate not only yourself, but raise suspicion as to your motivations amongst anyone reading this. Your posts are never on topic and you have never shown any knowledge of science whatsoever, you're nothing more than a hit man that has stalked me for over 10 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1402999


You, as usual, must have me confused with others who have opposed you in the past. All I know is when it comes to sure fire ways of testing your claims, YOU'RE the one that balks. YOU'RE the one that fails. I have tested you again and again, and you have either fled, or been found wanting.

Your inability to wager with me here, with something you say you are SO certain of, demonstrates that you know this. And precisely what your odds are worth.

And I'm 98% sure I'll still be here in January to remind you of it.
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agent 74444,
do you realise how much time you are spending with all your attacking posts to AA? I mean just the reply above is huge to pick apart everything...I mean if you are as you say just an average poster unconnected with the .govs, than why do you spend so much time on THIS thread??
what do you do exactly that would give you so much of an interest on the subject and thread? what do you do for a living? (this needs answering imo now)

people this needs answering because agent 74444 takes over EVERY page on this brilliant thread.

also I hope EVERYONE notices that agent 74444 always starts every spat with AA, & I mean every one.
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agent 74444,
do you realise how much time you are spending with all your attacking posts to AA? I mean just the reply above is huge to pick apart everything...
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Took about 20 or so minutes -- not a huge deal. Back in 'the day,' IDW and I would go back and forth for hours. Now, not so much.

I mean if you are as you say just an average poster unconnected with the .govs, than why do you spend so much time on THIS thread??
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Why does IDW? Why do any of us? We all have our own reasons -- mine is that it is a rare thing to have such a concrete way of testing the claims of one IDW/AA, and so I'd prefer not to pass that up. In terms of engaging him along the way, I expect my post above made that pretty clear. In case you missed it: Part of it is an experiment. I am testing IDW's/AA's claims, and his ability to do what he claims he can do. I am pointing out flaws in his stories, flaws in his ideas, flaws in his character, flaws in his predictions and methods. I am letting those who engage with him know exactly who and what they are dealing with. And doing so with his own words and posts.

I am also pointing out concrete and objective ways of *testing* his claims -- which has been a rare treat, indeed.

what do you do exactly that would give you so much of an interest on the subject and thread? what do you do for a living? (this needs answering imo now)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24735063


I'm in I.T. for a private firm. Funnily enough, you're the first, ever, to simply ask.

By contrast, IDW just claims to know who I am, and who my father was, but when challenged to actually prove it, balks again.

people this needs answering because agent 74444 takes over EVERY page on this brilliant thread.
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Frankly, I don't. And, in more recent pages, I can't help but notice it's been others calling *me* out, including by IDW/AA himself!

also I hope EVERYONE notices that agent 74444 always starts every spat with AA, & I mean every one.
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And yet, I don't. There are several dozen pages on this thread I don't appear on *at all.*

Do you think IDW/AA should take me up on my wager? Why or why not?
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people this needs answering because agent 74444 takes over EVERY page on this brilliant thread.

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Decided to go look -- and of the 9664 responses to the thread over the year, I, apparently, am responsible for 121 of them.

Well, 122 including this one. Hardly EVERY page.
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So if they're not [cosmic] rays what are they, particles? I understand from the article that these *rays* come from within our galaxy but not from the sun. If they were to have come from supernova explosions (primarily) why do they have no spatial or time variation? Could the lack of variation be because they are being created at a constant rate?
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So if they're not [cosmic] rays what are they, particles? I understand from the article that these *rays* come from within our galaxy but not from the sun. If they were to have come from supernova explosions (primarily) why do they have no spatial or time variation? Could the lack of variation be because they are being created at a constant rate?
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Rays implies electromagnetic energy , like x rays and gamma rays. Cosmic radiation is known to be particles accelerated to beyond light speed, whereas electromagnetic energy travels at precisely light speed. They seem to have a rather constant flux value outside the heliosphere , with variations in flux values caused mainly by changes in the heliosphere. The source is not known for certain but several theories attempt to explain their generation. If I had to make a guess I would say there is a rather constant rate of supernova explosions throughout the galaxy, most of which we are not able to directly observe, which could explain their presence, but I believe the originate at the galactic center, which is the center of a vortex of matter and energy that accelerates and disintegrates matter being drawn into it.
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