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So if they're not [cosmic] rays what are they, particles? I understand from the article that these *rays* come from within our galaxy but not from the sun. If they were to have come from supernova explosions (primarily) why do they have no spatial or time variation? Could the lack of variation be because they are being created at a constant rate?
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Rays implies electromagnetic energy , like x rays and gamma rays. Cosmic radiation is known to be particles accelerated to beyond light speed, whereas electromagnetic energy travels at precisely light speed. They seem to have a rather constant flux value outside the heliosphere , with variations in flux values caused mainly by changes in the heliosphere. The source is not known for certain but several theories attempt to explain their generation. If I had to make a guess I would say there is a rather constant rate of supernova explosions throughout the galaxy, most of which we are not able to directly observe, which could explain their presence, but I believe the originate at the galactic center, which is the center of a vortex of matter and energy that accelerates and disintegrates matter being drawn into it.
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interesting.
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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So if they're not [cosmic] rays what are they, particles? I understand from the article that these *rays* come from within our galaxy but not from the sun. If they were to have come from supernova explosions (primarily) why do they have no spatial or time variation? Could the lack of variation be because they are being created at a constant rate?
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Rays implies electromagnetic energy , like x rays and gamma rays. Cosmic radiation is known to be particles accelerated to beyond light speed, whereas electromagnetic energy travels at precisely light speed. They seem to have a rather constant flux value outside the heliosphere , with variations in flux values caused mainly by changes in the heliosphere. The source is not known for certain but several theories attempt to explain their generation. If I had to make a guess I would say there is a rather constant rate of supernova explosions throughout the galaxy, most of which we are not able to directly observe, which could explain their presence, but I believe the originate at the galactic center, which is the center of a vortex of matter and energy that accelerates and disintegrates matter being drawn into it.
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Thank you. Is there any reference material that you would suggest me reading? A point in the right direction would be gratefully accepted.
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agent 74444,
do you realise how much time you are spending with all your attacking posts to AA? I mean just the reply above is huge to pick apart everything...I mean if you are as you say just an average poster unconnected with the .govs, than why do you spend so much time on THIS thread??
what do you do exactly that would give you so much of an interest on the subject and thread? what do you do for a living? (this needs answering imo now)

people this needs answering because agent 74444 takes over EVERY page on this brilliant thread.

also I hope EVERYONE notices that agent 74444 always starts every spat with AA, & I mean every one.
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From now on as far as I am concerned he is talking to himself. He has managed to completely interrupt the exchange of information here by having posters banned and continually caterwauling, the best thing to do I suppose is to ignore him and simply continue to post information as it develops.
It seems people are able to read the thread but not respond to it, except in some cases where they get the server problem message. If you have been getting this message after attempting to vein a page here or post, look at your history and it will say 'your IP is banned', yet you can navigate from that page by pushing the 'back' button and access anything else on the forum. It is simply a way to ban people from posting to or reading this thread without reducing the websites revenue.
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I just had a thought AA.

Has any administrator EVER posted on this thead??
I don't think they have....not one....hmmm

how many pages and views does this thread have again(& AA's other one)??
hmmm
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agent 74444,
do you realise how much time you are spending with all your attacking posts to AA? I mean just the reply above is huge to pick apart everything...I mean if you are as you say just an average poster unconnected with the .govs, than why do you spend so much time on THIS thread??
what do you do exactly that would give you so much of an interest on the subject and thread? what do you do for a living? (this needs answering imo now)

people this needs answering because agent 74444 takes over EVERY page on this brilliant thread.

also I hope EVERYONE notices that agent 74444 always starts every spat with AA, & I mean every one.
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From now on as far as I am concerned he is talking to himself. He has managed to completely interrupt the exchange of information here by having posters banned and continually caterwauling, the best thing to do I suppose is to ignore him and simply continue to post information as it develops.
It seems people are able to read the thread but not respond to it, except in some cases where they get the server problem message. If you have been getting this message after attempting to vein a page here or post, look at your history and it will say 'your IP is banned', yet you can navigate from that page by pushing the 'back' button and access anything else on the forum. It is simply a way to ban people from posting to or reading this thread without reducing the websites revenue.
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I just had a thought AA.

Has any administrator EVER posted on this thead??
I don't think they have....not one....hmmm

how many pages and views does this thread have again(& AA's other one)??
hmmm
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pages: 323
replies:9,671
views: 257,735

fooken hell....look at those views....rockoncool2
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So if they're not [cosmic] rays what are they, particles? I understand from the article that these *rays* come from within our galaxy but not from the sun. If they were to have come from supernova explosions (primarily) why do they have no spatial or time variation? Could the lack of variation be because they are being created at a constant rate?
 Quoting: Elemental


Rays implies electromagnetic energy , like x rays and gamma rays. Cosmic radiation is known to be particles accelerated to beyond light speed, whereas electromagnetic energy travels at precisely light speed. They seem to have a rather constant flux value outside the heliosphere , with variations in flux values caused mainly by changes in the heliosphere. The source is not known for certain but several theories attempt to explain their generation. If I had to make a guess I would say there is a rather constant rate of supernova explosions throughout the galaxy, most of which we are not able to directly observe, which could explain their presence, but I believe the originate at the galactic center, which is the center of a vortex of matter and energy that accelerates and disintegrates matter being drawn into it.
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Thank you. Is there any reference material that you would suggest me reading? A point in the right direction would be gratefully accepted.
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No, not that I know of. I speculating based on the qualities of cosmic particles. They could originate from exploding stars.
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agent 74444,
do you realise how much time you are spending with all your attacking posts to AA? I mean just the reply above is huge to pick apart everything...I mean if you are as you say just an average poster unconnected with the .govs, than why do you spend so much time on THIS thread??
what do you do exactly that would give you so much of an interest on the subject and thread? what do you do for a living? (this needs answering imo now)

people this needs answering because agent 74444 takes over EVERY page on this brilliant thread.

also I hope EVERYONE notices that agent 74444 always starts every spat with AA, & I mean every one.
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From now on as far as I am concerned he is talking to himself. He has managed to completely interrupt the exchange of information here by having posters banned and continually caterwauling, the best thing to do I suppose is to ignore him and simply continue to post information as it develops.
It seems people are able to read the thread but not respond to it, except in some cases where they get the server problem message. If you have been getting this message after attempting to vein a page here or post, look at your history and it will say 'your IP is banned', yet you can navigate from that page by pushing the 'back' button and access anything else on the forum. It is simply a way to ban people from posting to or reading this thread without reducing the websites revenue.
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I just had a thought AA.

Has any administrator EVER posted on this thead??
I don't think they have....not one....hmmm

how many pages and views does this thread have again(& AA's other one)??
hmmm
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There are obviously many more people reading the thread than responding to it, which is quite normal in of itself, but the ratio here is quite unusual, as is the norm for most of my posts on glp.
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The ratio of view to posts is approximately 250 to 1
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The highest ratio of views to posts on any other thread I could find was 35 to one and 20 to one seems to be about average.
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What we have is a lot of government operatives and 'scientists' trying to glean information without giving up who they are.
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You want to know what I know in detail , it's going to cost you. Information is not free. Perhaps directing a bit of the billions in funding for pseudoscience my way and calling off the dogs might persuade me a bit more effectively than force. With a team of my own doing research based on purely allegorical science , i can guarantee results. The direction you're taking now is a road to nowhere.
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You want to know what I know in detail , it's going to cost you. Information is not free. Perhaps directing a bit of the billions in funding for pseudoscience my way and calling off the dogs might persuade me a bit more effectively than force. With a team of my own doing research based on purely allegorical science , i can guarantee results. The direction you're taking now is a road to nowhere.
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LOL, they replaced the word "empirical" with "allegorical"., which is obviously not a typo or a spelling issue..
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The data on this page has been redacted since earlier in the say an now shows a rather robust geomagnetic storm occurred during the late evening to early morning hours in the US. This was previously NOT registered at this level on the kp index, which peaked out at 3 or 4 when I looked at this morning( I believe it was 3).

Now I see they have changed the data to show a maximum kp index of 7, which is a radical difference. I hope others were noting the data when I mentioned these charts this morning and can confirm what I just stated. Why they would understate the seriousness of a geomagnetic disturbance in my opinion is to prevent the loss of revenue in the airline industry by the canceling and re routing flights where it would have been prudent to do so.

As I stated before, expect solar activity to go into overdrive in the immediate future, with nitro boost and supercharging for those of you who prefer metaphoric description. Also I would be surmised if the elite went to ground very soon, they are already hiding out in isolated areas and I know of more than a few who are heading to the now infamous DENVER area, which is a confirmed massive underground bunker.

.The mansions of the rich,famous and 'elite' on the east coast high society areas in places like Martha's vineyard and Long Island are simply abandoned, being taken care of by professional house sitters and grounds keepers, I know this for a FACT through my own sources of information.
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The data on this page has been redacted since earlier in the say an now shows a rather robust geomagnetic storm occurred during the late evening to early morning hours in the US. This was previously NOT registered at this level on the kp index, which peaked out at 3 or 4 when I looked at this morning( I believe it was 3).

Now I see they have changed the data to show a maximum kp index of 7, which is a radical difference. I hope others were noting the data when I mentioned these charts this morning and can confirm what I just stated. Why they would understate the seriousness of a geomagnetic disturbance in my opinion is to prevent the loss of revenue in the airline industry by the canceling and re routing flights where it would have been prudent to do so.

As I stated before, expect solar activity to go into overdrive in the immediate future, with nitro boost and supercharging for those of you who prefer metaphoric description. Also I would be surmised if the elite went to ground very soon, they are already hiding out in isolated areas and I know of more than a few who are heading to the now infamous DENVER area, which is a confirmed massive underground bunker.

.The mansions of the rich,famous and 'elite' on the east coast high society areas in places like Martha's vineyard and Long Island are simply abandoned, being taken care of by professional house sitters and grounds keepers, I know this for a FACT through my own sources of information.
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I forgot the link, LMAO!:

[link to www.n3kl.org]
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I would like to make a statement in my own defense since several persons have stated things are normal and as usual in their areas. This is not evidence of anything but that they are either in areas I suspect are being cooled by cloud formation due to excessive evaporation, or they are reporting transient conditions as continuous patterns.

What is evidence of the validity of my predictions is though is some cases I was off by a few degrees (the maximum temperature recorded in the country was only 125 degrees and that took place in Missouri. However , as I predicted there were tens of thousands of high temperature records set world wide, and this WAS the hottest summer on record in recorded history.

Here where I live I recorded transient temperatures in excess of 130 degrees in the hard shade on three occasions that lasted up to 20 minutes at a time during CME arrivals on windy days. I was not able to post this data due to banning, I am presuming they saw what I was writing and banned me before it became visible.


. Our highest sustained high temperature was 119 degrees, so you could say I was off by a few degrees when I predicted 130 degree temps in the south. Ok, I was wrong.
LMAO
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The total disintegration of the polar ice cap DID in fact occur. This information is readily available and MAINSTREAM scientists admitted that this was the greatest melting that has occurred in over 1 million years.

There is fact and article referenced on this thread with leading scientists in the field making this statement and warning there may be no real polar ice cap within 5 years, winter or summer.

Though there was patchy ice still present , for all intents and purposes it totally disintegrated, just as I predicted. I went on to predict that the refreezing this winter would be incomplete and thus far though refreezing should be occurring by now, it isn't on any measurable scale. The temperatures across the arctic areas are still well above freezing during the daylight hours.

These are "big deals" and I deserve recognition for my accuracy,they are predictions I nailed.
The reason I can make these types of predictions and persons trained in meteorology and others trained in astrophysics couldn't is simple, their education is compartmentalized and they have no dynamic knowledge of science, like for instance they have for the most part no idea the effects a plasma field can have on temperatures, or a cme , coronal hole or x ray flare. I know through observing patterns and correlations in data for over ten years now.

. I admit, I am no expert in every discipline involved, but my dynamic knowledge of science exceeds that of ANY TRADITIONALLY EDUCATED SCIENTIST, period....(don't bother calling the cia, 'cause they don't catch turtles anyway)-quoting 'Turtle man's" banjo playing partner.
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Is this thread having 'server problems' again? Seems odd not even the hard core shit slingers aren't posting.

PHIL PLAIT IS AN INCOMPETENT 'FANCY BOY', NASA'S DISGRACE, AND THAT IS BEING NICE. COME ON IN HERE, BOY! JAY WINDLEY SUCKS COCK AND DOESN'T KNOW SUBLIMATION FROM NUCLEAR FISSION.

WHY ARE ALL OF NASA'S PROPAGANDISTS MORAL DEGENERATES?
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AA,
Just wanted to test the posting, and say thank you for the thread. Please stick around and keep interpreting the solar data.....even though some is contrived.

I do want you to know, barring you are some GLP figment... I have lots of love/peace/hope going out to you.
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I agree that our knowledge of quantum mechanics is based purely on theory and that light speed is merely our limitation on sub atomic particles. What *we* know is the most simple shadow of what exists beyond our understanding. I have no doubt that what exists outside of our boundaries of current intelligence has the potential to overturn every theory known to man, however I can't quite get my head around it! The sub atomic world has no correlation to our material dimension. Particles can be, and are, wherever they bloody want to be. Unfortunately, even being a member of mensa and having an iq of 160 does not allow my human brain to consider these facts. I rely on well informed sources. I lean towards the galactic black hole theory where cosmic particles are emitted at a constant rate from the linear distortion. Time and space cease to exist (as we know them). As we know them. That is the fundamental crux. There is something disturbing the magnetic lines that we inhabit. Something that we appear to be moving towards or through. Thoughts please AA?
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If cosmic particles are emitted by supernovae, unless they are in exact position, surely the side of the earth facing the primary direction of the emission would be more affected than that facing away. The earth, however, has mostly constant readings. Cosmic particles appear to vary very little in intensity, therefore is it not possible that they originate from a different source? Something with a constant output.
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I agree that our knowledge of quantum mechanics is based purely on theory and that light speed is merely our limitation on sub atomic particles. What *we* know is the most simple shadow of what exists beyond our understanding. I have no doubt that what exists outside of our boundaries of current intelligence has the potential to overturn every theory known to man, however I can't quite get my head around it! The sub atomic world has no correlation to our material dimension. Particles can be, and are, wherever they bloody want to be. Unfortunately, even being a member of mensa and having an iq of 160 does not allow my human brain to consider these facts. I rely on well informed sources. I lean towards the galactic black hole theory where cosmic particles are emitted at a constant rate from the linear distortion. Time and space cease to exist (as we know them). As we know them. That is the fundamental crux. There is something disturbing the magnetic lines that we inhabit. Something that we appear to be moving towards or through. Thoughts please AA?
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You and I both have a mutual understanding of our universe in common, and that is that we don't know but tiny fraction of what there is to know. I feel exactly the same way you do, basing all of my understanding of science of known facts and observation, and some conclusions can be reached in this manner. However, anyone claiming to understand quantum mechanics is lying, and those who claim they do are blowhards and messily exposed as charltains. My contention is the the foundation of science must be solid and known, and no theory built upon a foundation of another theory is even worth reading.

ALL of my conclusions are based on empirical facts, for instance that cosmic 'rays' are in fact particles accelerated beyond light speed. Until mainstream science ceases to pretend and cover up facts in order to prop up dubious theories, it is nothing more that complex fiction with highly questionable mathematical proofs.
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If cosmic particles are emitted by supernovae, unless they are in exact position, surely the side of the earth facing the primary direction of the emission would be more affected than that facing away. The earth, however, has mostly constant readings. Cosmic particles appear to vary very little in intensity, therefore is it not possible that they originate from a different source? Something with a constant output.
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With billions of stars, perhaps the rate of supernovae throughout the galaxy is constant including the majority of which are obscured by the dark rift or other matter, and the particles are trapped in the energy/matter vortex that I perceive the galaxy to be. My personal favorite theory is that they are simply particles accelerated by a vortex until the reach the point where they escape it's gravitational field.
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Hi AA,
Thank you for all your information in the last few days.

There are a few things in this post I'd like to respond to.

I would like to make a statement in my own defense since several persons have stated things are normal and as usual in their areas. This is not evidence of anything but that they are either in areas I suspect are being cooled by cloud formation due to excessive evaporation, or they are reporting transient conditions as continuous patterns.
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I have stated basically what you are stating here before, but I'll state it again, that myself and the whole community of thousands of pilots are aware of a general weather pattern that is part of a constant seen over the years and decades, and having to do with how the bands of air currents arrange themselves on the globe.

The weather in the southern high Mexican plateau (a region generally from southern Mexico City southward a few hundred miles) is generally the opposite in any particular weather pattern, to northern Mexico and the greater US, in terms of temperature and humidity, but generally mirrors those general conditions for the Vancouver region.

That is to say, about 80% of the time, if it is hot and dry in the greater US, then it is also hot and dry in northern Mexico, but it is cooler and rainier in the Mexican southern high plateau where I live, and in Vancouver, and vice-verse. This summer followed that pattern exactly, with the dates of the heat wave in the US matching cooler and rainier conditions in my region and in Vancouver Canada at the same time. That pattern of opposites matched up almost to the day this summer at the start of the US heat wave, and the cold rainy conditions that hit at exactly the same time here and in Vancouver.

When I state that is it cool and rainy here, it is not meant to be an attack against you, but the view from my point of view. Our cold streak that we have had here since June is continuing this week with not too much sun and only comfortable with sweaters and warm clothes. It is usually getting warmer by now. The hottest months here are January and February. It is interesting to note however that this is not because I am south of the equator, because I am not. My latitude is about 19 degrees north. Rather it has to do with how the bands of moisture line up on the planet.

(that is not to say that it is hotter in Vancouver in in Jan-Feb when we have our hot season in mexico. Because it obviously isn't, there is snow in Vancouver during those months, but rather that means that if the Vancouver winter is dryer and warmer than usual, then is is also generally dryer and hotter during our hottest season which is Jan,Feb, and if it is colder with more precipitation in the Vancouver winter, then it will be cooler with more precipitation south of Mexico City at the same time, which is it's hotter season, etc.
So the Vancouver - Southern Mexico climate relation is that although the timing of the seasons of the two regions are 180 degrees opposite, but the deviations of those temps and humidity relative to the respective norms of those regions coincide... :) clear as mud?!)


The total disintegration of the polar ice cap DID in fact occur. This information is readily available and MAINSTREAM scientists admitted that this was the greatest melting that has occurred in over 1 million years.

There is fact and article referenced on this thread with leading scientists in the field making this statement and warning there may be no real polar ice cap within 5 years, winter or summer.

Though there was patchy ice still present , for all intents and purposes it totally disintegrated, just as I predicted. I went on to predict that the refreezing this winter would be incomplete and thus far though refreezing should be occurring by now, it isn't on any measurable scale. The temperatures across the arctic areas are still well above freezing during the daylight hours.
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This data source shows that the ice pack is continuing to grow as of several weeks. What data source do you have?
[link to nsidc.org]

These are "big deals" and I deserve recognition for my accuracy,they are predictions I nailed.
The reason I can make these types of predictions and persons trained in meteorology and others trained in astrophysics couldn't is simple, their education is compartmentalized and they have no dynamic knowledge of science, like for instance they have for the most part no idea the effects a plasma field can have on temperatures, or a cme , coronal hole or x ray flare. I know through observing patterns and correlations in data for over ten years now.

. I admit, I am no expert in every discipline involved, but my dynamic knowledge of science exceeds that of ANY TRADITIONALLY EDUCATED SCIENTIST, period....(don't bother calling the cia, 'cause they don't catch turtles anyway)-quoting 'Turtle man's" banjo playing partner.
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Hey AA, I'm no astrophysicist, but just from my off the cuff logic, if the Cosmic Ray, or Neutron field of view is very diffuse, not showing clear sources, it would seem logical that this would be because some force, electromagnetism, gravity, whatever, to easily causes these particles or rays to curve and alter course, whatever they may be, and that would mean that even if their sources were very specific and possibly sporadic, that they could still appear as a diffuse haze by the time they get to earth. This would probably rule out the sun as a source though.

Other thing-
Did you see this post and video about the SECCHI instruments on the STEREO sun imaging satellites? Is it of any interest to us or the topic of this thread?
Thread: Secchi HI1-A + HI1-B 2007, 2008 , 2009 , 2010 , 2011 in 15 min

TY

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The total disintegration of the polar ice cap DID in fact occur. This information is readily available and MAINSTREAM scientists admitted that this was the greatest melting that has occurred in over 1 million years.

There is fact and article referenced on this thread with leading scientists in the field making this statement and warning there may be no real polar ice cap within 5 years, winter or summer.

Though there was patchy ice still present , for all intents and purposes it totally disintegrated, just as I predicted. I went on to predict that the refreezing this winter would be incomplete and thus far though refreezing should be occurring by now, it isn't on any measurable scale. The temperatures across the arctic areas are still well above freezing during the daylight hours.
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This data source shows that the ice pack is continuing to grow as of several weeks. What data source do you have?
[link to nsidc.org]
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I said refreezing isn't occurring on an measurable scale and I was in error. The amount of increase in coverage is very small for the 2012 line on the graph, but it is measurable. I was looking at the same graph you were, perhaps my wording could have been better,, that there had been no significant refreezing and daytime temperatures are still averaging well over freezing. Pleas note the article I posted on this being the least ice coverage in over a million years.But I must admit, I need to edit my posts more carefully and choose my words a bit better.

These are "big deals" and I deserve recognition for my accuracy,they are predictions I nailed.
The reason I can make these types of predictions and persons trained in meteorology and others trained in astrophysics couldn't is simple, their education is compartmentalized and they have no dynamic knowledge of science, like for instance they have for the most part no idea the effects a plasma field can have on temperatures, or a cme , coronal hole or x ray flare. I know through observing patterns and correlations in data for over ten years now.

. I admit, I am no expert in every discipline involved, but my dynamic knowledge of science exceeds that of ANY TRADITIONALLY EDUCATED SCIENTIST, period....(don't bother calling the cia, 'cause they don't catch turtles anyway)-quoting 'Turtle man's" banjo playing partner.
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Hey AA, I'm no astrophysicist, but just from my off the cuff logic, if the Cosmic Ray, or Neutron field of view is very diffuse, not showing clear sources, it would seem logical that this would be because some force, electromagnetism, gravity, whatever, to easily causes these particles or rays to curve and alter course, whatever they may be, and that would mean that even if their sources were very specific and possibly sporadic, that they could still appear as a diffuse haze by the time they get to earth. This would probably rule out the sun as a source though.
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Yes, precisely! A galaxy is a vortex formed by forces upon matter, electromagnetic forces and gravitational forces, the more signification being electromagnetic. To me this seems obvious and has since I was a young child of 10.
Other thing-
Did you see this post and video about the SECCHI instruments on the STEREO sun imaging satellites? Is it of any interest to us or the topic of this thread?
Thread: Secchi HI1-A + HI1-B 2007, 2008 , 2009 , 2010 , 2011 in 15 min

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I haven't seen it but I will take a look, I must be honest with you, I am very suspicious and unconvinced by anything coming from JPL, NASA or any source filtered by them. Note the title of the thread. Also please re read the last few pages for a description of my latest easily confirmable detection of fabrication of data.

For instance few realize that the only people in 'contact' with the Voyager' probe is JPL. No one else is in contact with it (and neither is JPL). More and more we are seeing massive funding for projects that produce data that makes no sense or as in the case of the Mars probe is amateuristically (is that word? If it isn't it needs to be and is now) fabricated.
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Is this thread having 'server problems' again? Seems odd not even the hard core shit slingers aren't posting.

PHIL PLAIT IS AN INCOMPETENT 'FANCY BOY', NASA'S DISGRACE, AND THAT IS BEING NICE. COME ON IN HERE, BOY! JAY WINDLEY SUCKS COCK AND DOESN'T KNOW SUBLIMATION FROM NUCLEAR FISSION.

WHY ARE ALL OF NASA'S PROPAGANDISTS MORAL DEGENERATES?
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I have noticed they do this when a few of us AC's start posting in your support.....they leave you alone for a few days perhaps a week or so....then they return..

it is SO obvious.
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Is this thread having 'server problems' again? Seems odd not even the hard core shit slingers aren't posting.

PHIL PLAIT IS AN INCOMPETENT 'FANCY BOY', NASA'S DISGRACE, AND THAT IS BEING NICE. COME ON IN HERE, BOY! JAY WINDLEY SUCKS COCK AND DOESN'T KNOW SUBLIMATION FROM NUCLEAR FISSION.

WHY ARE ALL OF NASA'S PROPAGANDISTS MORAL DEGENERATES?
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I have noticed they do this when a few of us AC's start posting in your support.....they leave you alone for a few days perhaps a week or so....then they return..

it is SO obvious.
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In my experience the post you quoted would have brought them in mass. I think maybe they figured out by posting they are bumping the thread, but they won't leave it alone if it gets any significance views or posts, not a chance.
If I post new material that goes against mainstream science, this will also bring them in. I have been very busy lately with what is a distraction I cannot ignore, one 'they' created. I don't know what my future holds , but one thing that has always been dangerous is teaching revolutionary ideas. Many men have died doing so, and went through all sorts of suffering. I knew the costs going into it, and the likely outcome. It is not that I put little value on my life, it is more a hope that through knowledge will come advancement in the human condition, that more of the right people will survive instead of the hellish future our planet has in store for it if only the least worthy are preserved. It is something worth dying for.
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I listened to half the Douglas Dietrich interview last night before I got totally bumped from the live feed.

I am interested every time I hear that guy talk, especially considering that his stories of the what really happened in the war with Japan coincide especially with stories I heard from a (step)grandfather that served with the Navy.

Douglas is rather manic, full of details, and obviously very opinionated, so I would not be surprised if AA were to disagree with him at times, or maybe not,
but I can't help finding common ground between the two opinions, and mine too, which characterizes those with government positions as mostly people who check into work but are some of the most unproductive people of all, especially in the higher echelons where they are given to all kinds of indulgences.

Dietrich's accounts of sorcery type practices of major and historic world governments is icing on the cake, and honestly I don't doubt that one bit either, and from what I know directly too.

After I got bumped I went and downloaded the last GLP DD interview, and FWIW, I did not hear very much in the first hour of the interview last night that was not covered six months earlier, but it was all interesting in any case.

I got bumped at the exact moment that Dietrich was describing how general Groves never did much of note except massive occult and symbolic things, like the design and inauguration of the Pentagon, on September 11th, 19..... and there it cut off. As auspicious a place to get cut off as any.

Here is the GLP link to the interview from six months ago.

this is a 29MB, 2hr, mp3 download -
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Is this thread having 'server problems' again? Seems odd not even the hard core shit slingers aren't posting.

PHIL PLAIT IS AN INCOMPETENT 'FANCY BOY', NASA'S DISGRACE, AND THAT IS BEING NICE. COME ON IN HERE, BOY! JAY WINDLEY SUCKS COCK AND DOESN'T KNOW SUBLIMATION FROM NUCLEAR FISSION.

WHY ARE ALL OF NASA'S PROPAGANDISTS MORAL DEGENERATES?
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I have noticed they do this when a few of us AC's start posting in your support.....they leave you alone for a few days perhaps a week or so....then they return..

it is SO obvious.
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In my experience the post you quoted would have brought them in mass. I think maybe they figured out by posting they are bumping the thread, but they won't leave it alone if it gets any significance views or posts, not a chance.
If I post new material that goes against mainstream science, this will also bring them in. I have been very busy lately with what is a distraction I cannot ignore, one 'they' created. I don't know what my future holds , but one thing that has always been dangerous is teaching revolutionary ideas. Many men have died doing so, and went through all sorts of suffering. I knew the costs going into it, and the likely outcome. It is not that I put little value on my life, it is more a hope that through knowledge will come advancement in the human condition, that more of the right people will survive instead of the hellish future our planet has in store for it if only the least worthy are preserved. It is something worth dying for.
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But not worth something to risk your oh-so-precious-ego, I notice.

Ah, so amusing. If people post counter to you, its a conspiracy. If they don't post counter to you, it's a conspiracy. And so much drama!

If the admins had all the nifty powers you give them credit for, why don't they make this thread 'selectively visible' as you claimed they have done in the past?

I am just patiently awaiting the chance to *test* another of your supposed revolutionary ideas, the results of which are forthcoming in December. I expect to be alive and posting to the still-working internet, without the population having been reduced by ninety percent. You claim a better than 98% chance (do you have any idea what that really means?) that I will be wrong on all those counts.

Somehow, I think despite the ridiculously high odds you have given your predictions, that they will fail again. You think so, too, or you would have been willing to wager on it.
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Why isn't Anonymous Coward 24735063 a British government agent, since his ID never changes?

Oh, yes, because he supports your position. Got it.
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Is this thread having 'server problems' again? Seems odd not even the hard core shit slingers aren't posting.

PHIL PLAIT IS AN INCOMPETENT 'FANCY BOY', NASA'S DISGRACE, AND THAT IS BEING NICE. COME ON IN HERE, BOY! JAY WINDLEY SUCKS COCK AND DOESN'T KNOW SUBLIMATION FROM NUCLEAR FISSION.

WHY ARE ALL OF NASA'S PROPAGANDISTS MORAL DEGENERATES?
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I have noticed they do this when a few of us AC's start posting in your support.....they leave you alone for a few days perhaps a week or so....then they return..

it is SO obvious.
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In my experience the post you quoted would have brought them in mass. I think maybe they figured out by posting they are bumping the thread, but they won't leave it alone if it gets any significance views or posts, not a chance.
If I post new material that goes against mainstream science, this will also bring them in. I have been very busy lately with what is a distraction I cannot ignore, one 'they' created. I don't know what my future holds , but one thing that has always been dangerous is teaching revolutionary ideas. Many men have died doing so, and went through all sorts of suffering. I knew the costs going into it, and the likely outcome. It is not that I put little value on my life, it is more a hope that through knowledge will come advancement in the human condition, that more of the right people will survive instead of the hellish future our planet has in store for it if only the least worthy are preserved. It is something worth dying for.
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But not worth something to risk your oh-so-precious-ego, I notice.

Ah, so amusing. If people post counter to you, its a conspiracy. If they don't post counter to you, it's a conspiracy. And so much drama!

If the admins had all the nifty powers you give them credit for, why don't they make this thread 'selectively visible' as you claimed they have done in the past?

I am just patiently awaiting the chance to *test* another of your supposed revolutionary ideas, the results of which are forthcoming in December. I expect to be alive and posting to the still-working internet, without the population having been reduced by ninety percent. You claim a better than 98% chance (do you have any idea what that really means?) that I will be wrong on all those counts.

Somehow, I think despite the ridiculously high odds you have given your predictions, that they will fail again. You think so, too, or you would have been willing to wager on it.
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I want you to give me a one word answr to sinple question forgetting all of the history we have nad the personal hatred we have for each other:

Do you admit my predictions made on this thread have been extremely accurate, including going way out on a limb and predicting the total breakup of the polar ice cap (please note the PEER REVIEWED paper referenced here where the worlds leading TRADITIONALLY EDUCATED experts say this has been the most melting of the polar ice cap in over a million years and the many visual satellite images that graphically show the total breakup)), thousands of all time record temperatures worldwide,and the hottest summer on record have all been correct?
If not , please give a detailed explanation of where you think my predictions failed, with PEER REVIEWED references please.
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Now, I have one more question for you, assuming you're not going make and ass out of yourself an attempt to claim these predictions were not correct, WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK I AM WRONG ABOUT THE PREDICTIONS I MADE THAT TAKE PLACE CHRONOLOGICALLY IN THE FUTURE FROM THIS TIME FORWARD?

Now that the astrophysics and meteorology columns in "GLP JEOPARDY" have been expended, let me ask you this question and you are welcome to reference any post I have made on the internet. When have you OR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS YOU INSISTED I APOLOGIZE TO IF I LOSE MY ONES SIDED NO WIN POSSIBLE BET WITH YOU EVER proved me wrong? Not called into question, not claimed it, but Plainly and obviously using empirical evidence as your only backing proved me wrong, about anything? And don't mention anything bases on unproved mathematical based theories where I out of principal refused to give and answer or any 10^5 bullshit.

In my textbooks there is no number 10^5. I was traditionally educated during a different time, when the numbing down had not yet taken firm hold.

Quite a record you have there, sport. You're batting a thousand.