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Ah, so you are still about! Hope you are well.

I will find it interesting to test your predictions, SG, after IDW/AA's likely fail on December 22nd. It's a pity he hasn't been around, but c'est la vie.

33 days to go. Things aren't looking to good for IDW/AA's predictions...
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Unfortunately people are in a trance state and unable to see the most obvious of facts.

I believe this is the result of an ongoing continuous psychological war that is enabled by radio frequency brainwave control piggybacked on the cellular telephone network and through television.
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I'd forgotten about the brainwave-control claim of yours. Thankfully, it's still on the List. But, for now, it is irrelevant to testing your claims.

Yes, they are managing to create what appears to be near seasonal temperatures but the tell tale sign that I am correct is the 10-15 degrees above normal temperatures in the arctic and sub arctic regions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


But that isn't what you claimed would happen. And do 'they' have uber-powerful weather control devices, too? Why didn't you mention that, oh, a *year* ago?



There is no 'reservoir' of cold air that normally facilitates the manifestation of the season we call 'winter'. There will be no winter. Localized snowstorms that melt off the next few days are not 'winter'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


I suppose we will see. However, again, climate change and warming have been predicted by traditional, non-IDW science for decades.


Yes, there is some refreezing of arctic ice, but it at the lowest level in recorded history and deceptive tactics are being used to make it appear there is more solid ice that actually exists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You, of course, can cite evidence for this.


The data we are given counts any area covered by are least 15% ice as frozen, as in the chart posted earlier..
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You can, of course, cite evidence for this.

The largest storm in recorded history just hit the northeast, the magnetosphere is so unstable that daily fluctuations of 100 nanotesla are becoming the norm at any given latitude, and contrary to a sophisticated propaganda campaign dedicated to making you believe all is normal, every prediction I made is coming to past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Like that prediction you made, with your claimed 100% accuracy, that martial law would be enacted in 2004?

While the current solar maximum appears to be somewhat tame with few complex sunspots appearing as of yet, this will change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


We'll see what we see. But, strangely, the predictions leading up to December you made yourself on this very thread don't seem to be fitting reality all that well. How unusual.

As I have repeatedly stated we are entering completely uncharted territory and predictions are hard to make with any great degree of accuracy,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Despite you repeatedly claiming 98.5% accuracy, without quantifying that in any way...

but one that I can make with certainty is that the current mass extinction will worsen, the intensity of weather systems and weather extremes will worsen ( the energy that powers the weather comes from the Sun) , and data will continue to be withheld.
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How convenient for you. I expect when there is winter in the Northeast, you'll say "they" are using their weather control devices just to make "you" look wrong.

"They" are not going to tell you the direness of the situation but rest assured they have made their preparations.

"They" are setting up a situation which will pit the nuclear powers against each other in precise timing with when the global changes become so obvious that no one will deny it. It amazes me to see people here who are stating directly that my predictions have failed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Strange. When I look at your predictions, it isn't people I see failing. Just you.

While it is true that I have not been completely accurate ,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


and are now a contender for the understatement of this very young decade...


there is no one in this world who has been more accurate and with the complex interactions of a multitude of totally new phenomenon it is simply not possible to predict with 100% accuracy ever contingency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Yet, if you look at traditional physicists, chemists, biologists, astronomers, engineers, they all seem to predict their fields with fantastically more accuracy than you. Strange, that.

But I do think I have been correct on my main points,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You haven't.


unusual and unprecedented geological activity,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Please cite evidence supporting this claim.

an increase in the effects of solar events on the planet,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Please cite evidence supporting this claim.

and rapidly changing and radical weather patterns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Which traditional climatologists have been predicting for quite some time...


The one thing that admittedly has taken me by surprise is the lack of complex sunspots and I have been off with my temperature predictions as a result.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Among other things.

Do not let your guard down because a few people have concentrated on the failure of a few predictions to manifest in precisely the way I said they would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Yes. Certainly pointing out your past failed claims and repeated incompetence in any number of different subjects you have claimed to master, your inability to cite supporting evidence, and your ego repeatedly overwhelming your judgement is no reason to doubt you *this* time.


Remember, there is no history to look back to besides several mass extinctions and changes in atmospheric composition recorded in ice core samples that we know were directly related to solar activity and intentionally attributed to other causes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You can, of course, cite evidence of this.

"They" will coordinate a worldwide economic failure followed directly by an all out nuclear exchange participated in by all of the nuclear powers (which are all actually under the control of the 'monolithic worldwide conspiracy" Kennedy spoke of) destroying the major cities and huge slices of the population when the magnetometer completely or nearly completely fails and the solar maximum peaks, probability, 100%.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And those who have watched you will know exactly what your 100% certainty on any subject is *really* worth.

This will occur during the time frame I set forth throughout this thread. The fact that the solar maximum has not been that impressive as of yet is not to be taken as a sign of future events.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Again, how convenient.

If you are wondering why I have not posted here recently the honest answer is twofold, I have been very busy preparing and the message has already gotten out to those who are still capable of complex intellectual thought patterns, which is about 1/2 of 1% of the total population who can see the 'whole picture'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And you are tired of getting your ass handed to you by your supposed intellectual inferiors.

The television program "doomsday preppers" proves that not a single one of these people preparing realize all of their separate reasons and fears are connected to each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And such a highbrow set of subjects!

I will not waste my time posting here any longer as there is nothing to gain at this point and it would have no productive result at this point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Other than proving you inferior to your own tasks, yet again. I, for one, think that's *quite* productive, honestly.


What amazes me is how effective the electronic and psychological mind control has been on such a large percentage of the population, all who sense something is very wrong as the water begins to boil in the pot, and so very very few of the frogs are sensing the increase in heat and jumping out other than into either a worst position or no real increase in chances of survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And what amazes me is how tenaciously one will hold onto an erroneous idea, despite reams of evidence to the contrary, and how many irrational and repeated logical fallacies one will cling to to protect one's ego.

I expect to be posting in 2013 on a functioning Internet, proving you wrong yet again. The question, then, will be whether you have to courage to post, as well.

I suppose we'll see.
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Ah, so you are still about! Hope you are well.

I will find it interesting to test your predictions, SG, after IDW/AA's likely fail on December 22nd. It's a pity he hasn't been around, but c'est la vie.

33 days to go. Things aren't looking to good for IDW/AA's predictions...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Unfortunately people are in a trance state and unable to see the most obvious of facts.

I believe this is the result of an ongoing continuous psychological war that is enabled by radio frequency brainwave control piggybacked on the cellular telephone network and through television.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


I'd forgotten about the brainwave-control claim of yours. Thankfully, it's still on the List. But, for now, it is irrelevant to testing your claims.

Yes, they are managing to create what appears to be near seasonal temperatures but the tell tale sign that I am correct is the 10-15 degrees above normal temperatures in the arctic and sub arctic regions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


But that isn't what you claimed would happen. And do 'they' have uber-powerful weather control devices, too? Why didn't you mention that, oh, a *year* ago?



There is no 'reservoir' of cold air that normally facilitates the manifestation of the season we call 'winter'. There will be no winter. Localized snowstorms that melt off the next few days are not 'winter'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


I suppose we will see. However, again, climate change and warming have been predicted by traditional, non-IDW science for decades.


Yes, there is some refreezing of arctic ice, but it at the lowest level in recorded history and deceptive tactics are being used to make it appear there is more solid ice that actually exists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You, of course, can cite evidence for this.


The data we are given counts any area covered by are least 15% ice as frozen, as in the chart posted earlier..
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You can, of course, cite evidence for this.

The largest storm in recorded history just hit the northeast, the magnetosphere is so unstable that daily fluctuations of 100 nanotesla are becoming the norm at any given latitude, and contrary to a sophisticated propaganda campaign dedicated to making you believe all is normal, every prediction I made is coming to past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Like that prediction you made, with your claimed 100% accuracy, that martial law would be enacted in 2004?

While the current solar maximum appears to be somewhat tame with few complex sunspots appearing as of yet, this will change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


We'll see what we see. But, strangely, the predictions leading up to December you made yourself on this very thread don't seem to be fitting reality all that well. How unusual.

As I have repeatedly stated we are entering completely uncharted territory and predictions are hard to make with any great degree of accuracy,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Despite you repeatedly claiming 98.5% accuracy, without quantifying that in any way...

but one that I can make with certainty is that the current mass extinction will worsen, the intensity of weather systems and weather extremes will worsen ( the energy that powers the weather comes from the Sun) , and data will continue to be withheld.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


How convenient for you. I expect when there is winter in the Northeast, you'll say "they" are using their weather control devices just to make "you" look wrong.

"They" are not going to tell you the direness of the situation but rest assured they have made their preparations.

"They" are setting up a situation which will pit the nuclear powers against each other in precise timing with when the global changes become so obvious that no one will deny it. It amazes me to see people here who are stating directly that my predictions have failed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Strange. When I look at your predictions, it isn't people I see failing. Just you.

While it is true that I have not been completely accurate ,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


and are now a contender for the understatement of this very young decade...


there is no one in this world who has been more accurate and with the complex interactions of a multitude of totally new phenomenon it is simply not possible to predict with 100% accuracy ever contingency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Yet, if you look at traditional physicists, chemists, biologists, astronomers, engineers, they all seem to predict their fields with fantastically more accuracy than you. Strange, that.

But I do think I have been correct on my main points,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You haven't.


unusual and unprecedented geological activity,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Please cite evidence supporting this claim.

an increase in the effects of solar events on the planet,
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Please cite evidence supporting this claim.

and rapidly changing and radical weather patterns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Which traditional climatologists have been predicting for quite some time...


The one thing that admittedly has taken me by surprise is the lack of complex sunspots and I have been off with my temperature predictions as a result.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Among other things.

Do not let your guard down because a few people have concentrated on the failure of a few predictions to manifest in precisely the way I said they would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Yes. Certainly pointing out your past failed claims and repeated incompetence in any number of different subjects you have claimed to master, your inability to cite supporting evidence, and your ego repeatedly overwhelming your judgement is no reason to doubt you *this* time.


Remember, there is no history to look back to besides several mass extinctions and changes in atmospheric composition recorded in ice core samples that we know were directly related to solar activity and intentionally attributed to other causes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


You can, of course, cite evidence of this.

"They" will coordinate a worldwide economic failure followed directly by an all out nuclear exchange participated in by all of the nuclear powers (which are all actually under the control of the 'monolithic worldwide conspiracy" Kennedy spoke of) destroying the major cities and huge slices of the population when the magnetometer completely or nearly completely fails and the solar maximum peaks, probability, 100%.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And those who have watched you will know exactly what your 100% certainty on any subject is *really* worth.

This will occur during the time frame I set forth throughout this thread. The fact that the solar maximum has not been that impressive as of yet is not to be taken as a sign of future events.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Again, how convenient.

If you are wondering why I have not posted here recently the honest answer is twofold, I have been very busy preparing and the message has already gotten out to those who are still capable of complex intellectual thought patterns, which is about 1/2 of 1% of the total population who can see the 'whole picture'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And you are tired of getting your ass handed to you by your supposed intellectual inferiors.

The television program "doomsday preppers" proves that not a single one of these people preparing realize all of their separate reasons and fears are connected to each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And such a highbrow set of subjects!

I will not waste my time posting here any longer as there is nothing to gain at this point and it would have no productive result at this point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


Other than proving you inferior to your own tasks, yet again. I, for one, think that's *quite* productive, honestly.


What amazes me is how effective the electronic and psychological mind control has been on such a large percentage of the population, all who sense something is very wrong as the water begins to boil in the pot, and so very very few of the frogs are sensing the increase in heat and jumping out other than into either a worst position or no real increase in chances of survival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


And what amazes me is how tenaciously one will hold onto an erroneous idea, despite reams of evidence to the contrary, and how many irrational and repeated logical fallacies one will cling to to protect one's ego.

I expect to be posting in 2013 on a functioning Internet, proving you wrong yet again. The question, then, will be whether you have to courage to post, as well.

I suppose we'll see.
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whatever
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And what amazes me is how tenaciously one will hold onto an erroneous idea, despite reams of evidence to the contrary, and how many irrational and repeated logical fallacies one will cling to to protect one's ego.

I expect to be posting in 2013 on a functioning Internet, proving you wrong yet again. The question, then, will be whether you have to courage to post, as well.

I suppose we'll see.
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He'll post. And he'll explain away the lack of strong immediate environmental change to a government conspiracy, like weather modification like he is doing now.

In the mean time TPTB will be sending the world to hell in a hand-basket politically, but I am sure they are grateful for the diversion of attention.
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He predicted pretty much a sure thing world ender on Dec 21st there is really no way he can wriggle out of that one when it doesn't happen. So I don't think he'll be back after that point. In fact he has already given a convenient excuse to exit this thread and not return in his last post.

He's clearly not just a little wrong about his predictions, but dead wrong about most of them. The one about the ice not refreezing is probably the most amusing. Take a look at the temperatures of the 3 largest cities in the Canadian Arctic right now, they are spread apart by thousands of kilometers and each of them are waaaaay below freezing temperature, far in excess of what is required to freeze the ice.So it is not a localized cool area, the temps are well below what is needed to cause freezing across the canadian arctic. Not to mention they are in the southern arctic, it will be even colder in the high arctic. He's dead wrong plain and simple. No fancy wording or verbal dance moves will change that.
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Like that prediction you made, with your claimed 100% accuracy, that martial law would be enacted in 2004?


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Suspension of habeous corpus IS martial law
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Take a look at the temperatures of the 3 largest cities in the Canadian Arctic right now, they are spread apart by thousands of kilometers and each of them are waaaaay below freezing temperature, far in excess of what is required to freeze the ice.So it is not a localized cool area, the temps are well below what is needed to cause freezing across the canadian arctic. Not to mention they are in the southern arctic, it will be even colder in the high arctic. He's dead wrong plain and simple. No fancy wording or verbal dance moves will change that.
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Yeah, take a look at them, and then look at the archives of previous years. You have to be careful you don't offend Al Gore, after all you're all on the same team.
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Like that prediction you made, with your claimed 100% accuracy, that martial law would be enacted in 2004?


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Suspension of habeous corpus IS martial law
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 1212805


I suppose you thought they were going to announce it on the CBS evening news, huh?
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You are not a frog in a pot of water being brought slowly to a boil, so what are you? A dirtbag?
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He predicted pretty much a sure thing world ender on Dec 21st there is really no way he can wriggle out of that one when it doesn't happen.
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I did not ever predict the end of the world.

So I don't think he'll be back after that point. In fact he has already given a convenient excuse to exit this thread and not return in his last post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18342848

Return where? How?

He's clearly not just a little wrong about his predictions, but dead wrong about most of them. The one about the ice not refreezing is probably the most amusing.
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The ice cover is the lowest it has been in over a million years at this date. Again, you are in a difficult position, If you deny global warming you paint yourself an idiot in opposition to even lamestream scientists. If i were you based on what I have seen of your retorts, I would find a nursery thread to start on and leave this one to the adults.
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He'll post. And he'll explain away the lack of strong immediate environmental change to a government conspiracy, like weather modification like he is doing now.
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I don't think I have to retract strong immediate environmental change, do I? I mean a hurricane did just hit New York city in November, what do you call immediate 'strong' environmental change, the very worst storm in recorded history doesn't qualify?
In the mean time TPTB will be sending the world to hell in a hand-basket politically, but I am sure they are grateful for the diversion of attention.
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You have it backwards, they are using political intrigue and saber rattling to keep your eye off the real problem , while of course setting up the pieces on the board for a quick destruction of and loss of all pieces except for few knights, bishops and of course the kings, if you can understand the metaphor.
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"worst storm in recorded history"

"lowest in a million years"

Hyperbole much? Got any LINKS?
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Take a look at the temperatures of the 3 largest cities in the Canadian Arctic right now, they are spread apart by thousands of kilometers and each of them are waaaaay below freezing temperature, far in excess of what is required to freeze the ice.So it is not a localized cool area, the temps are well below what is needed to cause freezing across the canadian arctic. Not to mention they are in the southern arctic, it will be even colder in the high arctic. He's dead wrong plain and simple. No fancy wording or verbal dance moves will change that.
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Yeah, take a look at them, and then look at the archives of previous years. You have to be careful you don't offend Al Gore, after all you're all on the same team.
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You completely missed my point, I didn't say they were colder than in recent history, I said that they were far beyond cold enough to refreeze the ice in the area, Something you said would not happen.
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Take a look at the temperatures of the 3 largest cities in the Canadian Arctic right now, they are spread apart by thousands of kilometers and each of them are waaaaay below freezing temperature, far in excess of what is required to freeze the ice.So it is not a localized cool area, the temps are well below what is needed to cause freezing across the canadian arctic. Not to mention they are in the southern arctic, it will be even colder in the high arctic. He's dead wrong plain and simple. No fancy wording or verbal dance moves will change that.
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Yeah, take a look at them, and then look at the archives of previous years. You have to be careful you don't offend Al Gore, after all you're all on the same team.
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lolcruise
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"worst storm in recorded history"

"lowest in a million years"

Hyperbole much? Got any LINKS?
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If you use monetary damage and size as criteria for worst storm in history, this was it. And the fact that it was hurricane hitting that far up the coast in November is a bit out of the norm too, wouldn't you cay? In fact the whole storm included many unprecedented factors.

Even lamestream scientists agree with me about the lowest ice coverage in over a million years, so take you hyperbole and shove it.
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Take a look at the temperatures of the 3 largest cities in the Canadian Arctic right now, they are spread apart by thousands of kilometers and each of them are waaaaay below freezing temperature, far in excess of what is required to freeze the ice.So it is not a localized cool area, the temps are well below what is needed to cause freezing across the canadian arctic. Not to mention they are in the southern arctic, it will be even colder in the high arctic. He's dead wrong plain and simple. No fancy wording or verbal dance moves will change that.
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Yeah, take a look at them, and then look at the archives of previous years. You have to be careful you don't offend Al Gore, after all you're all on the same team.
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You completely missed my point, I didn't say they were colder than in recent history, I said that they were far beyond cold enough to refreeze the ice in the area, Something you said would not happen.
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You need to read bit more carefully.
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in dec 2012 the world will change,i can sense it
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It's really cold here in Korea, and while I understand the uncharted territories we are going in...my poor mother must think I'm now nuts.. because in her mind if there weren't extraordinarily hot temps in December then she knows her son has lost it beyond all imagination!

Glad to see you've made it til the End.

On a personal note, and you don't need to reply. but as I've contemplated the end, and envision that I could meet it head-strong, in the end, I know I'm human and that water is cold, or that fire is hot. Will we rise to the Occasion in the End?
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It's really cold here in Korea, and while I understand the uncharted territories we are going in...my poor mother must think I'm now nuts.. because in her mind if there weren't extraordinarily hot temps in December then she knows her son has lost it beyond all imagination!

Glad to see you've made it til the End.

On a personal note, and you don't need to reply. but as I've contemplated the end, and envision that I could meet it head-strong, in the end, I know I'm human and that water is cold, or that fire is hot. Will we rise to the Occasion in the End?
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dec 2012 is not the end,it means the world will change!
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It's really cold here in Korea, and while I understand the uncharted territories we are going in...my poor mother must think I'm now nuts.. because in her mind if there weren't extraordinarily hot temps in December then she knows her son has lost it beyond all imagination!

Glad to see you've made it til the End.

On a personal note, and you don't need to reply. but as I've contemplated the end, and envision that I could meet it head-strong, in the end, I know I'm human and that water is cold, or that fire is hot. Will we rise to the Occasion in the End?
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Worldwide temperature changes are directly related to the overall energy output of the Sun.

The one thing recent events have proven is this is a fact, putting a fork in Al Gore once and for all. In fact if you compare sunspot and solar storm activity to worldwide temperature averages, the correlation is direct and easy to see.
The very small increase in CO2 we have observed is not the result of human activity and the cause of global warming, in fact the increase in CO2 is CAUSED by global warming, just like the release of methane is as well.
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It's really cold here in Korea, and while I understand the uncharted territories we are going in...my poor mother must think I'm now nuts.. because in her mind if there weren't extraordinarily hot temps in December then she knows her son has lost it beyond all imagination!

Glad to see you've made it til the End.

On a personal note, and you don't need to reply. but as I've contemplated the end, and envision that I could meet it head-strong, in the end, I know I'm human and that water is cold, or that fire is hot. Will we rise to the Occasion in the End?
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dec 2012 is not the end,it means the world will change!
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Yes, the garden is choked with weeds and needs tilling. When the tilling is done the garden looks devoid of life , but soon the sprouts signal the rebirth of new and better world.
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Yes, the garden is choked with weeds and needs tilling. When the tilling is done the garden looks devoid of life , but soon the sprouts signal the rebirth of new and better world.
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Bingo!


the world will change its happened before and happened again,when the stars and planets align things are going to change BIG TIME
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One things that gets me about the human caused global warming crowd is how they ignore the fact that methane is by far the worst of gasses causing runaway global warming because humans aren't responsible for it.. The tiny amount of CO2 increase is a symptom of global warming, not a cause, and such increases are recorded in ice core samples that were taken from times hundreds of thousands of years before humans released any measurable amount of CO2.

Good science is dynamic and empirical.
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It's really cold here in Korea, and while I understand the uncharted territories we are going in...my poor mother must think I'm now nuts.. because in her mind if there weren't extraordinarily hot temps in December then she knows her son has lost it beyond all imagination!

Glad to see you've made it til the End.

On a personal note, and you don't need to reply. but as I've contemplated the end, and envision that I could meet it head-strong, in the end, I know I'm human and that water is cold, or that fire is hot. Will we rise to the Occasion in the End?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22270906


Worldwide temperature changes are directly related to the overall energy output of the Sun.

The one thing recent events have proven is this is a fact, putting a fork in Al Gore once and for all. In fact if you compare sunspot and solar storm activity to worldwide temperature averages, the correlation is direct and easy to see.
The very small increase in CO2 we have observed is not the result of human activity and the cause of global warming, in fact the increase in CO2 is CAUSED by global warming, just like the release of methane is as well.
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I know what you mean believe me! But I must press you on the Matter that you Predicted that unprecedented hot temps would prevail through December..my poor Mom thinks I'm crazy! You say it's the unpredictability of sunspots? Can you better clarify to the lay person as myself? There's no doubt in my mind that the End will play out as both you and I envision. I was just very surprised in our weather.
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It's really cold here in Korea, and while I understand the uncharted territories we are going in...my poor mother must think I'm now nuts.. because in her mind if there weren't extraordinarily hot temps in December then she knows her son has lost it beyond all imagination!

Glad to see you've made it til the End.

On a personal note, and you don't need to reply. but as I've contemplated the end, and envision that I could meet it head-strong, in the end, I know I'm human and that water is cold, or that fire is hot. Will we rise to the Occasion in the End?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22270906


Worldwide temperature changes are directly related to the overall energy output of the Sun.

The one thing recent events have proven is this is a fact, putting a fork in Al Gore once and for all. In fact if you compare sunspot and solar storm activity to worldwide temperature averages, the correlation is direct and easy to see.
The very small increase in CO2 we have observed is not the result of human activity and the cause of global warming, in fact the increase in CO2 is CAUSED by global warming, just like the release of methane is as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 4198339


I know what you mean believe me! But I must press you on the Matter that you Predicted that unprecedented hot temps would prevail through December..my poor Mom thinks I'm crazy! You say it's the unpredictability of sunspots? Can you better clarify to the lay person as myself? There's no doubt in my mind that the End will play out as both you and I envision. I was just very surprised in our weather.
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It is very simple actually. The Sun is the source of heat energy reaching the Earth and all forms of solar energy including x ray, particle and the entire electromagnetic spectrum convert to heat energy. In quiet times with little solar activity temperatures decrease. This was unexpected in this time frame as far as I am concerned, but as I have said, we are in completely uncharted territory making accurate predictions of solar activity very difficult.
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It's really cold here in Korea, and while I understand the uncharted territories we are going in...my poor mother must think I'm now nuts.. because in her mind if there weren't extraordinarily hot temps in December then she knows her son has lost it beyond all imagination!

Glad to see you've made it til the End.

On a personal note, and you don't need to reply. but as I've contemplated the end, and envision that I could meet it head-strong, in the end, I know I'm human and that water is cold, or that fire is hot. Will we rise to the Occasion in the End?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22270906


Worldwide temperature changes are directly related to the overall energy output of the Sun.

The one thing recent events have proven is this is a fact, putting a fork in Al Gore once and for all. In fact if you compare sunspot and solar storm activity to worldwide temperature averages, the correlation is direct and easy to see.
The very small increase in CO2 we have observed is not the result of human activity and the cause of global warming, in fact the increase in CO2 is CAUSED by global warming, just like the release of methane is as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 4198339


I know what you mean believe me! But I must press you on the Matter that you Predicted that unprecedented hot temps would prevail through December..my poor Mom thinks I'm crazy! You say it's the unpredictability of sunspots? Can you better clarify to the lay person as myself? There's no doubt in my mind that the End will play out as both you and I envision. I was just very surprised in our weather.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22270906


It is very simple actually. The Sun is the source of heat energy reaching the Earth and all forms of solar energy including x ray, particle and the entire electromagnetic spectrum convert to heat energy. In quiet times with little solar activity temperatures decrease. This was unexpected in this time frame as far as I am concerned, but as I have said, we are in completely uncharted territory making accurate predictions of solar activity very difficult.
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I always thought that there would be unmistakable things happening toward the end, but I guess in the end, it can take us by surprise, even with all the signs leading up to it, if you know what I mean, though my writing sufficiently lacks.
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Worldwide temperature changes are directly related to the overall energy output of the Sun.

The one thing recent events have proven is this is a fact, putting a fork in Al Gore once and for all. In fact if you compare sunspot and solar storm activity to worldwide temperature averages, the correlation is direct and easy to see.
The very small increase in CO2 we have observed is not the result of human activity and the cause of global warming, in fact the increase in CO2 is CAUSED by global warming, just like the release of methane is as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 4198339


I know what you mean believe me! But I must press you on the Matter that you Predicted that unprecedented hot temps would prevail through December..my poor Mom thinks I'm crazy! You say it's the unpredictability of sunspots? Can you better clarify to the lay person as myself? There's no doubt in my mind that the End will play out as both you and I envision. I was just very surprised in our weather.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22270906


It is very simple actually. The Sun is the source of heat energy reaching the Earth and all forms of solar energy including x ray, particle and the entire electromagnetic spectrum convert to heat energy. In quiet times with little solar activity temperatures decrease. This was unexpected in this time frame as far as I am concerned, but as I have said, we are in completely uncharted territory making accurate predictions of solar activity very difficult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 4198339


I always thought that there would be unmistakable things happening toward the end, but I guess in the end, it can take us by surprise, even with all the signs leading up to it, if you know what I mean, though my writing sufficiently lacks.
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To me personally the signs seem overwhelming, looking at the big picture. You are concentrating on a singular factor and interpreting it as a positive sign. It is, but it can change in an instant.
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I know what you mean believe me! But I must press you on the Matter that you Predicted that unprecedented hot temps would prevail through December..my poor Mom thinks I'm crazy! You say it's the unpredictability of sunspots? Can you better clarify to the lay person as myself? There's no doubt in my mind that the End will play out as both you and I envision. I was just very surprised in our weather.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22270906


It is very simple actually. The Sun is the source of heat energy reaching the Earth and all forms of solar energy including x ray, particle and the entire electromagnetic spectrum convert to heat energy. In quiet times with little solar activity temperatures decrease. This was unexpected in this time frame as far as I am concerned, but as I have said, we are in completely uncharted territory making accurate predictions of solar activity very difficult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 4198339


I always thought that there would be unmistakable things happening toward the end, but I guess in the end, it can take us by surprise, even with all the signs leading up to it, if you know what I mean, though my writing sufficiently lacks.
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To me personally the signs seem overwhelming, looking at the big picture. You are concentrating on a singular factor and interpreting it as a positive sign. It is, but it can change in an instant.
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I don't know why, but I think this was my last human desire to press you, to see if you'd crack and cast into doubt all that I've believed.

But that's as IF all depended upon you! Sorry, because I hold you more in esteem than anyone else, but it was only the last test to Myself, and no one else, including yourself.

thanks for your testament, and your spirit/soul to the same. I'm a fool, but thank the creator not half the fool as half the Rest.
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In central Mexico for the last year the weather has been very beautiful as usual, but cooler than usual with more precipitation.

The only global averages I've seen show that the earth on the whole has been cooling slightly for the last 17 years.

As far as my direct experience living in the US, Europe, and Mexico over the last decade, I personally have not noticed distinct changes in the climate, except for a cooling and reduction of thermal activity over the last few years in central Mexico reflected in my flight logs and the consensus among pilots worldwide, who visit.

That the hurricane that hit the east coast was the most costly is a human factor. There are more structures and infrastructure to damage now than before, and those structures are valued higher now than before. It is not a gauge of warming IMO.

Perhaps due to just a few miscalculations in your figures, a misplaced decimal point, or some issue overlooked, would result in a prediction that passing through a galactic plane causes an earth-like planet cooling, rather than warming. Did you ever consider that?

What if the deep freeze hits on Dec 21st?uhoh

chilly

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In central Mexico for the last year the weather has been very beautiful as usual, but cooler than usual with more precipitation.

The only global averages I've seen show that the earth on the whole has been cooling slightly for the last 17 years.

As far as my direct experience living in the US, Europe, and Mexico over the last decade, I personally have not noticed distinct changes in the climate, except for a cooling and reduction of thermal activity over the last few years in central Mexico reflected in my flight logs and the consensus among pilots worldwide, who visit.

That the hurricane that hit the east coast was the most costly is a human factor. There are more structures and infrastructure to damage now than before, and those structures are valued higher now than before. It is not a gauge of warming IMO.

Perhaps due to just a few miscalculations in your figures, a misplaced decimal point, or some issue overlooked, results in a prediction that passing through a galactic plane causes an earth-like planet cooling, rather than warming. Did you ever consider that?

What if the deep freeze hits on Dec 21st?
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STFU
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STFU
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